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katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 08:19 AM
So I am going through a time in my life where I am re-evaluating things and trying to be the best Christian I can be. And I am right now trying to figure out how I interpret the bible.
So how I have been doing it is...
Taking the Old Testament as little to do with today and how I live my life. I see it as history that sets you up for Jesus, who obviously is the "main event" If you will. So I obviously believe that Jesus is God, that came down in human form to be an example of how we should live our lives. I know the bible is written by many people, but for me... When I read the gospels and i read what Jesus is quoted to say, to me what he says trumps what everyone else says bc after all it's God speaking. I don't believe that everything in the bible is true and should be followed bc j believe man made it and man is sinned and I'm sure some of those people have their own opinions and such, especially when it's the first time your reading it.

I'm just curious, how does everyone else read and interpret the bible? Do you take what Peter says as strongly and as equally as what Jesus says for example?

chrysostom
April 9th, 2016, 08:29 AM
Do you take what Peter says as strongly and as equally as what Jesus says for example?
no
-thank you for that question

iamaberean
April 9th, 2016, 08:40 AM
So I am going through a time in my life where I am re-evaluating things and trying to be the best Christian I can be. And I am right now trying to figure out how I interpret the bible.
So how I have been doing it is...
Taking the Old Testament as little to do with today and how I live my life. I see it as history that sets you up for Jesus, who obviously is the "main event" If you will. So I obviously believe that Jesus is God, that came down in human form to be an example of how we should live our lives. I know the bible is written by many people, but for me... When I read the gospels and i read what Jesus is quoted to say, to me what he says trumps what everyone else says bc after all it's God speaking. I don't believe that everything in the bible is true and should be followed bc j believe man made it and man is sinned and I'm sure some of those people have their own opinions and such, especially when it's the first time your reading it.

I'm just curious, how does everyone else read and interpret the bible? Do you take what Peter says as strongly and as equally as what Jesus says for example?

The bible is God's word, every bit of it. In it's original form man wrote what God told them to write. Interpretation of the original, I have found to have been done very well.

How to understand it:

1. The Old Testament was written to the Jews, as God's chosen people. It was for them and to them. Read it that way and let it give you understanding.

2. The four Gospels is about the Jew's Messiah, Jesus, coming to them to proclaim the last days and judgment that was about to come upon them within their life time. Read it that way to give you understanding.

3. The Epistles were written to the early churches, primarily Jewish, not to you or I. Read it that way to give you understanding.

4. The book or Revelation was given to John as the final years (less than 5) about judgment. It is not judgment coming to the church but to the Jews. Read it that way for understanding.

5. Every important item in the bible has more than one scripture about that particular thing. If you don't have an e-bible, get one so you can search the scriptures for complete understanding.

chrysostom
April 9th, 2016, 08:48 AM
If you don't have an e-bible, get one so you can search the scriptures for complete understanding.

so before e-bible you couldn't have a complete understanding?

theophilus
April 9th, 2016, 09:19 AM
katiecrna,

Do you attend church anywhere?

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 10:24 AM
katiecrna,

Do you attend church anywhere?

I do attend church. However when I was in college (Wesleyan), I was taught something really important by one of my bible teachers that stuck with me. And that was to listen to know one. Not even your pastor. And to hear what people say, then to go by yourself and read and study the bible and determine what you believe in. And I personally think that is the best advice.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 10:32 AM
3. The Epistles were written to the early churches, primarily Jewish, not to you or I. Read it that way to give you understanding.



Some of Paul's epistles are certainly for us, you just gave terrible advice. Paul teaches things that were told to him by the Risen Christ, it's new information for salvation that was given to Paul first by revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 10:36 AM
So I am going through a time in my life where I am re-evaluating things and trying to be the best Christian I can be. And I am right now trying to figure out how I interpret the bible.
So how I have been doing it is...
Taking the Old Testament as little to do with today and how I live my life. I see it as history that sets you up for Jesus, who obviously is the "main event" If you will. So I obviously believe that Jesus is God, that came down in human form to be an example of how we should live our lives. I know the bible is written by many people, but for me... When I read the gospels and i read what Jesus is quoted to say, to me what he says trumps what everyone else says bc after all it's God speaking. I don't believe that everything in the bible is true and should be followed bc j believe man made it and man is sinned and I'm sure some of those people have their own opinions and such, especially when it's the first time your reading it.

I'm just curious, how does everyone else read and interpret the bible? Do you take what Peter says as strongly and as equally as what Jesus says for example?

Ephesians is written directly to you. Go read it right now, it will take less than a hour

theophilus
April 9th, 2016, 10:37 AM
I do attend church. However when I was in college (Wesleyan), I was taught something really important by one of my bible teachers that stuck with me. And that was to listen to know one. Not even your pastor. And to hear what people say, then to go by yourself and read and study the bible and determine what you believe in. And I personally think that is the best advice.

And what if that bible teacher was wrong?

Tambora
April 9th, 2016, 11:05 AM
I don't believe that everything in the bible is true and should be followed bc j believe man made it On what basis do you determine which of the bible verses are true and which of the bible verses are not true?

theophilus
April 9th, 2016, 11:08 AM
On what basis do you determine which of the bible verses are true and which of the bible verses are not true?

:thumb:

Bright Raven
April 9th, 2016, 11:20 AM
literally.

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 11:27 AM
On what basis do you determine which of the bible verses are true and which of the bible verses are not true?

It's not about being true vs untrue. I think that it's more about what's important to God himself vs what's important to Peter for example.
I'm just saying if there are 4 books written by 4 different people, and if their stories and recollections of what Jesus say match up... Then I would say that is probably what Jesus actually said.

As for the Old Testament... It's not that I don't think that's true, but I don't think it's important for how I should live my life today.

I just think that what Jesus says... Is what is ultimately important.

annabenedetti
April 9th, 2016, 11:33 AM
How do you take the bible


On the rocks, with lime and a little salt.

:eek:

Sorry, I tried to resist, I really did.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 11:35 AM
On the rocks, with lime and a little salt.

:eek:

Sorry, I tried to resist, I really did.
:chuckle:

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 11:38 AM
literally.

So you think the Old Testament laws should be applied to today and how you live?

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 11:41 AM
I take the Old Testament contextual. That was a different time and culture that doesn't translate to today and therefore rules and law don't apply to today.

Bright Raven
April 9th, 2016, 11:44 AM
So you think the Old Testament laws should be applied to today and how you live?

I didn't say that;

Hebrews 8:13 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

13 When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.

Bright Raven
April 9th, 2016, 11:45 AM
I take the Old Testament contextual. That was a different time and culture that doesn't translate to today and therefore rules and law don't apply to today.

Are the Ten Commandments in effect today?

Tambora
April 9th, 2016, 11:46 AM
It's not about being true vs untrue. I think that it's more about what's important to God himself vs what's important to Peter for example.
I'm just saying if there are 4 books written by 4 different people, and if their stories and recollections of what Jesus say match up... Then I would say that is probably what Jesus actually said.

As for the Old Testament... It's not that I don't think that's true, but I don't think it's important for how I should live my life today.

I just think that what Jesus says... Is what is ultimately important.You might want to find a better way to state what you mean.

Jesus said a lot of things that do not apply to what you should do.

For example:

Matthew 16 KJV

(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.




Matthew 10 KJV

(5) These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:



As with all scripture, you have to determine who is being spoken to, at what time period, and whether what is said applies to you today.

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 12:00 PM
As with all scripture, you have to determine who is being spoken to, at what time period, and whether what is said applies to you today.

That's what I am trying to figure out. And obviously everyone has different opinions on what applies to us today.

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 12:04 PM
Some of Paul's epistles are certainly for us, you just gave terrible advice. Paul teaches things that were told to him by the Risen Christ, it's new information for salvation that was given to Paul first by revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ.

What about Paul's view on women covering their head during prayer or women shouldn't have leadership roles in the church?

Those are two things I struggle with. And they are written no where in the gospels. I don't know what to believe about those and whether they apply to me today.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 12:10 PM
What about Paul's view on women covering their head during prayer or women shouldn't have leadership roles in the church?

Those are two things I struggle with. And they are written no where in the gospels. I don't know what to believe about those and whether they apply to me today.
Those things were customs of the times and cultural. We know that women can lead churches now and many women attend Church and are active in the Church. Those teachings are to be grazed over, but Paul's teachings of the gospel of grace are only found through Paul. Did you read Ephesians already ? It's directly to you and me.

1 Corinthians 4:15-16 KJV -

theophilus
April 9th, 2016, 12:49 PM
And me.

:thumb:

meshak
April 9th, 2016, 12:53 PM
I'm just curious, how does everyone else read and interpret the bible? Do you take what Peter says as strongly and as equally as what Jesus says for example?

I mainly focus on what Jesus teaches and practiced in the New Testament and interpret everything else to harmonize to it.

We are, after all, calling ourselves Christ's followers. We ought to know what He teaches and practiced.

He is the perfect Teacher and says don't let anyone call you a teacher because He is the Teacher.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 12:53 PM
Are the Ten Commandments in effect today?
They are in effect and to be obeyed, but obeying does not gain salvation.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 12:54 PM
I mainly focus on what Jesus teaches and practiced in the New Testament and interpret everything else to harmonize to it.

We are, after all, Calling ourselves Christ's followers. We ought to know what He teaches and practiced.

He is the perfect Teacher and says don't let anyone call you a teacher because He is the Teacher.

Thanks teacher

meshak
April 9th, 2016, 01:02 PM
Christianity is so easy to understand if we focus on what Jesus said and practiced.

patrick jane
April 9th, 2016, 01:13 PM
Christianity is so easy to understand if we focus on what Jesus said and practiced.
Especially what Jesus said and practiced after he rose the third day when Jesus went to Paul and told him new teachings. So easy

katiecrna
April 9th, 2016, 01:33 PM
Those things were customs of the times and cultural. We know that women can lead churches now and many women attend Church and are active in the Church. Those teachings are to be grazed over, but Paul's teachings of the gospel of grace are only found through Paul. Did you read Ephesians already ? It's directly to you and me.

1 Corinthians 4:15-16 KJV -

I did read Ephesians. I loved the Book overall and agree with most of it. I'm lm not too sure about the husband and wive thing and the master and slave thing.

I always found Paul to be a little sexist.

theophilus
April 9th, 2016, 01:39 PM
I did read Ephesians. I loved the Book overall and agree with most of it. I'm lm not too sure about the husband and wive thing and the master and slave thing.

I always found Paul to be a little sexist.

I was exactly the same way until I took this bible study: http://www.lifeway.com/n/Product-Family/To-Live-Is-Christ

It was an eye-opener and I LOVE Paul.

:)

6days
April 9th, 2016, 02:18 PM
Taking the Old Testament as little to do with today and how I live my life.
If you want a love story..... read the OT.

If you like murder mysteries...read the OT.

How about erotica as God intended....read the OT.

Exciting genealogies / family trees...read the OT.

If you want the NT to come alive and be relevant....read the OT.

The Bible is one continuous account from beginning to end of God redeeming us....loving us even while we were enemies with Him. "But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved."

Perhaps you think I'm overselling the OT. I used to find it boring. But, honestly it has so much exciting, fascinating and relevant things for we Christians. When you study the various feasts....the OT tabernacles...the roles of the priest etc; the New Testament then starts to become a lot more meaningful. For example; would you like Easter to be more meaningful? The cross truly will become more meaningful if you understand the OT 'day of Atonement'.

meshak
April 9th, 2016, 02:24 PM
If you want a love story..... read the OT.

If you like murder mysteries...read the OT.

How about erotica as God intended....read the OT.

Exciting genealogies / family trees...read the OT.

If you want the NT to come alive and be relevant....read the OT.

The Bible is one continuous account from beginning to end of God redeeming us....loving us even while we were enemies with Him. "But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved."

Perhaps you think I'm overselling the OT. I used to find it boring. But, honestly it has so much exciting, fascinating and relevant things for we Christians. When you study the various feasts....the OT tabernacles...the roles of the priest etc; the New Testament then starts to become a lot more meaningful. For example; would you like Easter to be more meaningful? The cross truly will become more meaningful if you understand the OT 'day of Atonement'.

Christianity is all about Jesus' teachings and He taught us how to practice.

We should take heed of how He read the OT.

why not take advantage of it and not to make the same mistakes that OP people did.

meshak
April 9th, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jesus fulfilled the law by correcting OT people's mistakes.

Jesus fulfilled by practicing what God's original intention were for His people and the world.

6days
April 9th, 2016, 03:21 PM
Christianity is all about Jesus' teachings and He taught us how to practice.

We should take heed of how He read the OT.

why not take advantage of it and not to make the same mistakes that OP people did.
Yes Meshak..... Christianity is about Christ and the cross. Everything in both OT and NT points to the cross.