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meshak
April 5th, 2016, 06:04 AM
Mark 3:34
Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers!

Mark 3:35
Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

Luke 8:21
He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.”

meshak
April 5th, 2016, 06:06 AM
Too many man made doctrine do not show much of esteem following Jesus' teachings or commands by saying "your works cannot save you".

This kind of doctrines are so against Jesus' word.

We will not inherit God's kingdom if we don't esteem Jesus' word.

Christianity is all about Jesus and His teachings or commands.

meshak
April 5th, 2016, 06:28 AM
Jesus does not endorse lip serving faith.

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 06:44 AM
Why start another thread about Jesus' sayings, meshak?
You're beginning to sound like the modern church.
Oh, well, that's the answer. Oops, that's not the answer.
Well, let's start another fad (oops, thread) and that is the answer.

meshak, have you obeyed Jesus the Christ by coming to the One who holds the key that open the strait gate?

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 06:47 AM
Mark 3:34
Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers!

Was meshak there?
No?
Then Jesus was not talking to meshak, was He?


Mark 3:35
Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

Was meshak there?
No?
Then Jesus was not talking to meshak, was He?


Luke 8:21
He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.”

Was meshak there?
No?
Then Jesus was not talking to meshak, was He?

Now, 2016, has meshak, obeyed Jesus the Christ by coming to the One who holds the key that open the strait gate?

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 06:53 AM
Too many man made doctrine do not show much of esteem following Jesus' teachings or commands by saying "your works cannot save you".

YOUR works CANNOT save you.

That is why Jesus the Christ had to go to the Cross of Calvary because YOUR works cannot save.

ONLY Jesus the Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary can save.


This kind of doctrines are so against Jesus' word.

Which doctrine, meshak, that YOUR works cannot save you?


We will not inherit God's kingdom if we don't esteem Jesus' word.

Correct.
We better obey Jesus and come to the one who holds the key that open the strait gate.


Christianity is all about Jesus and His teachings or commands.

Correct.
Has meshak obeyed Jesus and come to the One who holds the key that open the strait gate which is the only way to salvation?

meshak
April 5th, 2016, 06:54 AM
Jesus followers should be encouraging one another to follow Jesus' teachings or commands, instead of preaching "your works cannot save you".

So many churches are spreading what people want to hear, instead of preaching loyal to Jesus.

It sure is cheap salvation they are spreading.

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 06:55 AM
Jesus does not endorse lip serving faith.

Correct, meshak, LIP SERVING.

People who say they obey and do not do what He says.
Has meshak obeyed Jesus and come to the One who holds the key that open the strait gate, yet?

Totton Linnet
April 5th, 2016, 06:57 AM
Mark 3:34
Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers!

Mark 3:35
Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”



Luke 8:21
He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.”

But you have not done

He said you must needs be saved, but you are not saved
He said ye must be born again, but you are not born again
He said you must enter in at the strait gate, but you have not entered in

You think when you lay adying you might be saved.....what earthly good is that?

Behold now is the day of salvation, it has been provided at the cross, but you refuse to come

Totton Linnet
April 5th, 2016, 07:00 AM
Watch the spin...it is not about me but about Jesu's commands


In other words I don't obey but I insist that everyone else does.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:01 AM
Jesus does not endorse lip serving faith.

Good for you Meshak, don't go along with the truth of the Bible. Why, if you were to suddenly accept the Gospel you might wind up going to Heaven instead of being judged by your works and cast into the Lake of Fire? Your way is far better. Purposeful ignorance and rejection of all Biblical logic are preferable in your case. After all, why should you be forced to escape judgement? Don't let anybody talk you out of "trying to earn your way to Heaven" through your own good works and deeds dear. Remember, you're not as bad as others and better than most.

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 07:02 AM
Jesus followers should be encouraging one another to follow Jesus' teachings or commands, instead of preaching "your works cannot save you".

I guess you have me on ignore.
Just in case you get me off ignore: "meshak's works CANNOT save meshak no matter how much she works" that is why Jesus went to the Cross of Calvary, to provide for meshak the only way of salvation.

Obey Him meshak, go to the one who holds the key to open the strait gate to salvation.


So many churches are spreading what people want to hear, instead of preaching loyal to Jesus.

In this one instance I do agree with you.


It sure is cheap salvation they are spreading.

You mean, that YOUR works can save you INSTEAD of Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary?

meshak
April 5th, 2016, 07:03 AM
There are too many man-made doctrines and look at this place, all they are doing is arguing about it. It is nothing about doing good deeds.

All those isms are about man-made doctrines.

Calvinism, Catholicism, MADism, Protestantism and etc...

meshak
April 5th, 2016, 07:12 AM
Christianity is all about doing good deeds.

Jesus is the perfect teacher of it.

If we don't know what He teaches we will not be doing much of good deeds.

His teachings are in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in the New Testament.

Read the OP verse. Jesus does not call you His mother, sister or brother if you don't practice what He says.

We will not inherit God's kingdom if we are not His brother or sister.

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 07:14 AM
There are too many man-made doctrines and look at this place, all they are doing is arguing about it. It is nothing about doing good deeds.

Salvation has nothing to do with your good deeds.
Salvation is ALL about Jesus' good deed.


All those isms are about man-made doctrines.

Calvinism, Catholicism, MADism, Protestantism and etc...

Exactly like meshakism.

I meshak obey Jesus' sayings but I really don't and I demand that others follow what I say.

At least obey Jesus on this one, meshak: go to the ONLY One who holds the key to open the strait gate so that He can give you His gift of salvation.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:14 AM
There are too many man-made doctrines and look at this place, all they are doing is arguing about it. It is nothing about doing good deeds.

All those isms are about man-made doctrines.

Calvinism, Catholicism, MADism, Protestantism and etc...

And, Meshakism.

KingdomRose
April 5th, 2016, 07:16 AM
Too many man made doctrine do not show much of esteem following Jesus' teachings or commands by saying "your works cannot save you".

This kind of doctrines are so against Jesus' word.

We will not inherit God's kingdom if we don't esteem Jesus' word.

Christianity is all about Jesus and His teachings or commands.

Yes. He taught that first we must accept him as our Redeemer and King, and then we must DO what his teachings have pointed to (that we must do).

"I set the pattern for you, that, just as I did to you, you should do also." (John 13:15)

lifeisgood
April 5th, 2016, 07:18 AM
Christianity is all about doing good deeds.

Incorrect. Christianity is ALL about Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.


Jesus is the perfect teacher of it.

Yes, He is.


If we don't know what He teaches we will not be doing much of good deeds.

Correct.


His teachings are in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in the New Testament.

Partially correct.


Read the OP verse. Jesus does not call you His mother, sister or brother if you don't practice what He says.

You weren't there; therefore, He was not talking to meshak.


We will not inherit God's kingdom if we are not His brother or sister.

To be His brother or sister one has to come to the ONLY One who holds the key that open the strait gate to salvation.

Has meshak come to the One who holds the key that open the straight gate to salvation?

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:19 AM
Hey, Meshak one can intellectually believe in Christ yet reject the saving knowledge of His Gospel. Remember, the devils believe and aren't saved.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:21 AM
Yes. He taught that first we must accept him as our Redeemer and King, and then we must DO what his teachings have pointed to (that we must do).

"I set the pattern for you, that, just as I did to you, you should do also." (John 13:15)

You are an unsaved Jehovah Witness cultist though.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:23 AM
Incorrect. Christianity is ALL about Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary.



Yes, He is.



Correct.



Partially correct.



You weren't there; therefore, He was not talking to meshak.



To be His brother or sister one has to come to the ONLY One who holds the key that open the strait gate to salvation.

Has meshak come to the One who holds the key that open the straight gate to salvation?

Good post

KingdomRose
April 5th, 2016, 07:25 AM
Salvation has nothing to do with your good deeds.
Salvation is ALL about Jesus' good deeds.



Exactly like meshakism.

I meshak obey Jesus' sayings but I really don't and I demand that others follow what I say.

At least obey Jesus on this one, meshak: go to the ONLY One who holds the key to open the strait gate so that He can give you His gift of salvation.

First of all, how do you know what Meshak does or does not do? Secondly, why don't you post something encouraging, like what Jesus will do for us when he rules over the earth?

Have YOU truly gone to the one who welcomes us onto the narrow road that leads to life? Do you ACTIVELY PERFORM all of his teachings? E.g., do you refuse to support joining the military which trains people to kill? If not, you are going AGAINST Jesus' teaching to "love even our enemies." (Matthew 5:44) Jesus didn't say that to the trees.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:27 AM
First of all, how do you know what Meshak does or does not do? Secondly, why don't you post something encouraging, like what Jesus will do for us when he rules over the earth?

Have YOU truly gone to the one who welcomes us onto the narrow road that leads to life? Do you ACTIVELY PERFORM all of his teachings? E.g., do you refuse to support joining the military which trains people to kill? If not, you are going AGAINST Jesus' teaching to "love even our enemies." (Matthew 5:44) Jesus didn't say that to the trees.

You're a typical JW.

Totton Linnet
April 5th, 2016, 07:27 AM
There are too many man-made doctrines and look at this place, all they are doing is arguing about it. It is nothing about doing good deeds.

All those isms are about man-made doctrines.

Calvinism, Catholicism, MADism, Protestantism and etc...

All your deeds are evil...you speak evil and you do evil...how does your husband feel about your religion?

KingdomRose
April 5th, 2016, 07:29 AM
Hey, Meshak one can intellectually believe in Christ yet reject the saving knowledge of His Gospel. Remember, the devils believe and aren't saved.

Yes. Exactly. What is the rest of that scripture? "Faith without works is dead." (James 2:20, 24, 26)

Do YOU believe but aren't following every teaching of Christ? Is there room for improvement?

Totton Linnet
April 5th, 2016, 07:29 AM
First of all, how do you know what Meshak does or does not do? Secondly, why don't you post something encouraging, like what Jesus will do for us when he rules over the earth?

Have YOU truly gone to the one who welcomes us onto the narrow road that leads to life? Do you ACTIVELY PERFORM all of his teachings? E.g., do you refuse to support joining the military which trains people to kill? If not, you are going AGAINST Jesus' teaching to "love even our enemies." (Matthew 5:44) Jesus didn't say that to the trees.

shackles herself has told us all her evil deeds

we see how she sits on her hole all day pouring venom on the church...as indeed YOU do

KingdomRose
April 5th, 2016, 07:31 AM
You are an unsaved Jehovah Witness cultist though.

It's sad that that's all you can say to refute what I post. You don't comment on the scripture and try to REASON with me about it....you just denigrate and insult.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:32 AM
JWs believe that Christ was originally the Archangel Michael.

KingdomRose
April 5th, 2016, 07:33 AM
All your deeds are evil...you speak evil and you do evil...how does your husband feel about your religion?

No, Meshak isn't the one who is evil here. YOU and the others here are mean, self-righteous and blind.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:34 AM
JWs don't believe in the Trinity. That's why Meshak says they're godly people.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:35 AM
No, Meshak isn't the one who is evil here. YOU and the others here are mean, self-righteous and blind.

That's because you belong to a cult.

KingdomRose
April 5th, 2016, 07:35 AM
shackles herself has told us all her evil deeds

we see how she sits on her hole all day pouring venom on the church...as indeed YOU do

Didn't Jesus himself pour some venom when he saw the hypocrisy and irresponsibility of the religious leaders then? Have you ever read the 23rd chapter of Matthew?

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:37 AM
It's sad that that's all you can say to refute what I post. You don't comment on the scripture and try to REASON with me about it....you just denigrate and insult.

You're not interested in the truth. You've been indoctrinated by your JW leadership. Who was Christ?

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:39 AM
Didn't Jesus himself pour some venom when he saw the hypocrisy and irresponsibility of the religious leaders then? Have you ever read the 23rd chapter of Matthew?

You believe that Jesus started out as the archangel Michael and had no deity correct?

Totton Linnet
April 5th, 2016, 07:43 AM
No, Meshak isn't the one who is evil here. YOU and the others here are mean, self-righteous and blind.

She is a murderer as are you, God word says it "if any man says he loves God but hates the brethren he is a liar"

"he who hateth the brethren is a murderer"

God said that and meshak PROVED it for when jerzy said God was raising up Islam to punish the trins meshak posted "Amen, thank you brother"

Do YOU hate the trins, do YOU believe that the church is the whore of Babylon who you believe God is going to destroy?

So it is written so it is true

"He that hateth his brother is a murderer"

Totton Linnet
April 5th, 2016, 07:47 AM
Didn't Jesus himself pour some venom when he saw the hypocrisy and irresponsibility of the religious leaders then? Have you ever read the 23rd chapter of Matthew?

I am not a religious leader....YOU are the one who takes upon yourself to be the teacher of commandments. I am someone who got saved....those Unitarian Pharisees would have hated me just as you do because I worship Him as God.

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 07:58 AM
She is a murderer as are you, God word says it "if any man says he loves God but hates the brethren he is a liar"

"he who hateth the brethren is a murderer"

God said that and meshak PROVED it for when jerzy said God was raising up Islam to punish the trins meshak posted "Amen, thank you brother"

Do YOU hate the trins, do YOU believe that the church is the whore of Babylon who you believe God is going to destroy?

So it is written so it is true

"He that hateth his brother is a murderer"

Good post

Grosnick Marowbe
April 5th, 2016, 08:03 AM
Yes. Exactly. What is the rest of that scripture? "Faith without works is dead." (James 2:20, 24, 26)

Do YOU believe but aren't following every teaching of Christ? Is there room for improvement?

James was written to the scattered tribes of Israel. A cultist such as yourself is in no position to judge a member of the Body of Christ. You don't believe in the deity of Christ and believe He is the archangel Michael.

Choleric
April 6th, 2016, 08:14 AM
Jesus followers should be encouraging one another to follow Jesus' teachings or commands, instead of preaching "your works cannot save you".

So many churches are spreading what people want to hear, instead of preaching loyal to Jesus.

It sure is cheap salvation they are spreading.

Christs death in the cross is not cheap salvation Meshak. It cost Him everything.

You are not worthy of heaven Meshak. You are a sinner in need of a savior. The law cannot save, it can only condemn.

If you ever sinned you are in need of a savior. Being good won't do it.

If you want to obey God's voice, you need to read His entire revealed truth. Start in Romans.

Please repent of your own efforts Meshak, before it is too late. Rom 10:3-5.