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Jer17.5Ps50-Mt543
March 26th, 2016, 03:17 PM
many people call themselves Christian, but they are NOT. Well, they certainly are not by MY definition.

Here is my definition. Maybe you have your own

A Christian is someone who loves Jesus. Well, all claim to love Jesus. But what does the word Love mean? Does it mean just a feeling? Apparently not. Jesus said, "Not all who say Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of the Father"

So let's define Will of the Father

Well, The Father, through Moses, gave us the 10 Commandments. And Jesus, when asked what a person must do to be saved, said to obey the 10 Commandments. OK, so we have the Old and the New Testaments agreeing here. That happens quite a lot

by the way: so much for Once saved always saved.

hmmmm... Well, i think that about does it for my definition of Christian. It's pretty simple



:)

WizardofOz
March 26th, 2016, 03:19 PM
Yay! Another TSF/Coulter4Pres/Republicanchick random thought of the day.

patrick jane
March 26th, 2016, 05:31 PM
many people call themselves Christian, but they are NOT. Well, they certainly are not by MY definition.

Here is my definition. Maybe you have your own

A Christian is someone who loves Jesus. Well, all claim to love Jesus. But what does the word Love mean? Does it mean just a feeling? Apparently not. Jesus said, "Not all who say Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of the Father"

So let's define Will of the Father

Well, The Father, through Moses, gave us the 10 Commandments. And Jesus, when asked what a person must do to be saved, said to obey the 10 Commandments. OK, so we have the Old and the New Testaments agreeing here. That happens quite a lot

by the way: so much for Once saved always saved.

hmmmm... Well, i think that about does it for my definition of Christian. It's pretty simple



:)

I'm confused

Epoisses
March 26th, 2016, 05:36 PM
many people call themselves Christian, but they are NOT. Well, they certainly are not by MY definition.

Here is my definition. Maybe you have your own

A Christian is someone who loves Jesus. Well, all claim to love Jesus. But what does the word Love mean? Does it mean just a feeling? Apparently not. Jesus said, "Not all who say Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of the Father"

So let's define Will of the Father

Well, The Father, through Moses, gave us the 10 Commandments. And Jesus, when asked what a person must do to be saved, said to obey the 10 Commandments. OK, so we have the Old and the New Testaments agreeing here. That happens quite a lot

by the way: so much for Once saved always saved.

hmmmm... Well, i think that about does it for my definition of Christian. It's pretty simple



:)

You are very confused. Love and the Decalogue are polar opposites. Love teaches us to look away from ourselves to the perfect righteousness of Christ and the law teaches us to trust in ourselves and our performance at keeping rules. One is self-abasing and the other is self-exalting. Those who are under grace are not bound to the demands of the law of Moses.

jamie
March 26th, 2016, 07:34 PM
Paul gave a simple explanation of a Christian. He said, "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." (Romans 8:9)

Bradley D
March 27th, 2016, 12:35 AM
If one truly Loves God and Neighbor they will be living the Commandments.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 01:08 AM
many people call themselves Christian, but they are NOT. Well, they certainly are not by MY definition.

Here is my definition. Maybe you have your own

A Christian is someone who loves Jesus. Well, all claim to love Jesus. But what does the word Love mean? Does it mean just a feeling?

Love is a feeling, an emotion.




Apparently not. Jesus said, "Not all who say Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of the Father"

That scripture is proof that love, the emotion/feeling is with those who obey God.



So let's define Will of the Father

Well, The Father, through Moses, gave us the 10 Commandments. And Jesus, when asked what a person must do to be saved, said to obey the 10 Commandments. OK, so we have the Old and the New Testaments agreeing here. That happens quite a lot

by the way: so much for Once saved always saved.

hmmmm... Well, i think that about does it for my definition of Christian. It's pretty simple

:)

The will of the Father is for us to obey Jesus that is how we love and know God.

Do you want scripture references?

As for the 10 Commandments; the command to observe the Sabbath is about Jesus. Jesus is the Sabbath Rest. We no longer have to observe special days. We have to observe Jesus all day every day.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 01:22 AM
You are very confused. Love and the Decalogue are polar opposites. Love teaches us to look away from ourselves to the perfect righteousness of Christ and the law teaches us to trust in ourselves and our performance at keeping rules. One is self-abasing and the other is self-exalting. Those who are under grace are not bound to the demands of the law of Moses.

Love is having all those rules written on our hearts and minds.

jamie
March 27th, 2016, 08:41 AM
We no longer have to observe special days.


Paul didn't believe that. (1 Corinthians 5:8)

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 09:59 AM
Paul didn't believe that. (1 Corinthians 5:8)

That is about the love feasts.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 09:59 AM
Paul did not preach for anyone to obey the old law special days.

Paul says they were worthless.

jamie
March 27th, 2016, 01:22 PM
Paul did not preach for anyone to obey the old law special days.



Therefore purge out the old leaven that you may be a new lump since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. (1 Corinthians 5:7-8)

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 01:56 PM
Love is having all those rules written on our hearts and minds.

No, love is about having love written in the heart!! Love is much more than an emotion. Love is spoken of as the greatest commandment, the law of the Spirit and the royal law. Love is the 'law' that Christians are required to 'obey'.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 01:58 PM
Therefore purge out the old leaven that you may be a new lump since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. (1 Corinthians 5:7-8)

Christians are not required to keep feasts or special days (Sabbaths). Paul kept many of those things trying to win his countrymen to the gospel. One of those examples where Christians are to do as he says and not as he does.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 04:23 PM
No, love is about having love written in the heart!!

You cannot separate love from God's Word. They are the same.




Love is much more than an emotion. Love is spoken of as the greatest commandment, the law of the Spirit and the royal law. Love is the 'law' that Christians are required to 'obey'.

YOU JUST GOT THROUGH NO TO MY SAYING LOVE IS THE LAW WRITTEN ON OUR HEARTS.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 04:24 PM
There is a new law, it is the old law with some changes.

See Hebrews 7:12.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 04:28 PM
There is a new law, it is the old law with some changes.

See Hebrews 7:12.

And the new law is Love. It was only the sole focus of every single NT author including Jesus and James. Pretty hard to miss unless you're a Judaizer or a legalist.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 04:33 PM
And the new law is Love. It was only the sole focus of every single NT author including Jesus and James. Pretty hard to miss unless you're a Judaizer or a legalist.

You have no idea what love is. Tell me, is not harming your neighbor by not murdering them love?

How about not bearing false witness against your neighbor?

Start there, tell me what you think.

jamie
March 27th, 2016, 04:47 PM
Christians are not required to keep feasts or special days (Sabbaths).


Neither is anyone else. My experience has been that only persons interested in God's kingdom observe God's Sabbaths.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 04:51 PM
Neither is anyone else. My experience has been that only persons interested in God's kingdom observe God's Sabbaths.

Also those who have left their first love and fallen from grace love to keep the works of the law.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 04:53 PM
You have no idea what love is. Tell me, is not harming your neighbor by not murdering them love?

How about not bearing false witness against your neighbor?

Start there, tell me what you think.

Jesus said if you hate your brother you are already breaking the commandment showing the worthlessness of trusting in the law. Love is the fulfillment, if I have love I have everything I need.

jamie
March 27th, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jesus said if you hate your brother you are already breaking the commandment showing the worthlessness of trusting in the law. Love is the fulfillment, if I have love I have everything I need.


You have your opinion of what is love and Jesus has his opinion.


Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 22:35-40)

God's everlasting covenant defines what he means by love. God is entitled to his opinion and you are entitled to your opinion.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 05:09 PM
You have your opinion of what is love and Jesus has his opinion.


Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 22:35-40)

God's everlasting covenant defines what he means by love. God is entitled to his opinion and you are entitled to your opinion.

If you want to make love out to going back to the law and keeping the old commandments you are wrong.

jamie
March 27th, 2016, 05:16 PM
If you want to make love out to going back to the law and keeping the old commandments you are wrong.


You obviously don't know his commandments written by his own finger. Too bad.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jesus said if you hate your brother you are already breaking the commandment showing the worthlessness of trusting in the law. Love is the fulfillment, if I have love I have everything I need.

You speak against obedience, but we are told to love---even in the old law.

You have no understanding about love.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 09:06 PM
love will prevent you from doing that

Love is obeying God's Word.

God's Truth
March 27th, 2016, 09:07 PM
Leviticus 19:18
"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:17
"'Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 10:31 PM
You speak against obedience, but we are told to love---even in the old law.

You have no understanding about love.

You're an idiot!!

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 10:32 PM
Love is obeying God's Word.

Love is receiving the Holy Spirit at conversion. I know this is a foreign concept to you.

Epoisses
March 27th, 2016, 10:33 PM
Leviticus 19:18
"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

Leviticus 19:17
"'Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt.

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Gal. 5:14

God's Truth
March 28th, 2016, 01:11 AM
Love is receiving the Holy Spirit at conversion. I know this is a foreign concept to you.

Love is receiving the Holy Spirit?! Or, Love IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?

God's Truth
March 28th, 2016, 01:15 AM
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Gal. 5:14

Loving your neighbor is to do them no harm.

Doing your neighbor no harm is loving them.

Romans 13:10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.


Loving your neighbor is doing them no harm, it is not murdering them, it is not bearing false witness against them, it is not committing adultery with their spouse, and not stealing from them. You do all those things, you are obeying commandments, and you are loving your neighbor.