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Samie
March 13th, 2016, 09:10 PM
1. The Elect does not include everyone, but only certain specific individuals chosen by God before the foundation of the world. They are sure to inherit eternal life.

2. The Elect are those whom God chose before the foundation of the world because God foreknew they will of their own free-will chose Him and only then can they be in Christ. Unless they apostatize, their salvation is secure.

3. The Elect are all of Adam's race chosen by God before the foundation of the world. All their names were written in the book of life, but only overcomers will not be blotted out from it.

Which among the 3 above do you believe is biblically unimpeachable?

jamie
March 13th, 2016, 09:21 PM
Whom did God Choose before the Foundation of the World?


Christ only. (1 Peter 1:20)

patrick jane
March 13th, 2016, 09:49 PM
1. The Elect does not include everyone, but only certain specific individuals chosen by God before the foundation of the world. They are sure to inherit eternal life.

2. The Elect are those whom God chose before the foundation of the world because God foreknew they will of their own free-will chose Him and only then can they be in Christ. Unless they apostatize, their salvation is secure.

3. The Elect are all of Adam's race chosen by God before the foundation of the world. All their names were written in the book of life, but only overcomers will not be blotted out from it.

Which among the 3 above do you believe is biblically unimpeachable?
Calvinists

Nanja
March 14th, 2016, 08:15 AM
1. The Elect does not include everyone, but only certain specific individuals chosen by God before the foundation of the world. They are sure to inherit eternal life.


Grace was given to an Elect Remnant of mankind before the World began, solely according to God's Will and Purpose, which were given an Eternal Inheritance in their Covenant Head and Surety, Christ Jesus Eph. 1:4-11.

Eph. 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will

2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

No human effort was involved: not by works Titus 3:5; nor by man's imaginary free will.

John 1:14
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Rom. 9:23
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory


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Robert Pate
March 14th, 2016, 10:33 AM
Grace was given to an Elect Remnant of mankind before the World began, solely according to God's Will and Purpose, which were given an Eternal Inheritance in their Covenant Head and Surety, Christ Jesus Eph. 1:4-11.

Eph. 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will

2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

No human effort was involved: not by works Titus 3:5; nor by man's imaginary free will.

John 1:14
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Rom. 9:23
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory


~~~~~


Jesus claims to be the savior of the whole world, John 12:47. Salvation has been provided for every one, Hebrews 2:9.

Nick M
March 14th, 2016, 11:34 AM
Christ only. (1 Peter 1:20)
Correct.

steko
March 14th, 2016, 11:39 AM
Christ only. (1 Peter 1:20)


Correct.

Yep!

Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles[nations].

Nanja
March 14th, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jesus claims to be the savior of the whole world, John 12:47. Salvation has been provided for every one, Hebrews 2:9.


Those scriptures have been explained to you many times over, yet you remain blinded to their true meaning 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

However, it's God's Purpose that the Gospel be preached to the goats for the savour of death 2 Cor. 2:15-16. In this way He is fitting them for destruction Rom. 9:22; Mat. 25:33, 41.

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Totton Linnet
March 14th, 2016, 02:42 PM
Who He foreknew He also predestined, chose...it would be unpossible to predestine [plan] an unknown people and in order to elect or choose you must discriminate between persons.

...also our call is personal to us.

For the one who believes these things it is a great source of joy, satisfaction and comfort.

Totton Linnet
March 14th, 2016, 02:45 PM
See God foreknew Judas, who he was, what he was and what he would do

Judas is elected to PROVE that if God chooses a child of the devil...he will still be wicked and act treacherously...he will be WORSE OFF.

Nick M
March 14th, 2016, 03:21 PM
The Holy Spirit looked in Judas's heart and knew he was a devil so he then chose him. That is irrelevant to the discussion anyway. How long will you go on perverting the straight ways of the Lord?

beloved57
March 15th, 2016, 12:20 AM
Grace was given to an Elect Remnant of mankind before the World began, solely according to God's Will and Purpose, which were given an Eternal Inheritance in their Covenant Head and Surety, Christ Jesus Eph. 1:4-11.

Eph. 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will

2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

No human effort was involved: not by works Titus 3:5; nor by man's imaginary free will.

John 1:14
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Rom. 9:23
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory


~~~~~

Amen!

beloved57
March 15th, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jesus claims to be the savior of the whole world, John 12:47. Salvation has been provided for every one, Hebrews 2:9.

False statement not found in the scriptures!