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Robert Pate
March 2nd, 2016, 11:03 AM
What is the unforgivable sin?

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men and whosoever that speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever that speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come" Matthew 12:31, 32.

On the day of Pentecost the Gospel came into the world for the very first time in the power of the Holy Spirit, Acts 2: 4. The Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are inseparable. You cannot have one without the other. Paul makes this clear when he said, "Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the deliberate rejection of Christ and his Gospel. To reject the Gospel is to reject Christ. You cannot say that you believe in Jesus and then reject what he has done to justify you before a Holy God. This is why Christians are justified by faith. They are justified by faith because they are justified by Christ. Jesus Christ is their justifier, Romans 3:26.

Which brings us to religion. The Catholic church does not believe they are justified by Christ alone. They do not believe the Gospel. They believe that it is the Holy Spirit working in their lives that justifies them and makes them pleasing to God. To reject the saving work of Jesus Christ is to reject the Gospel and to commit the unpardonable sin.

Calvinist reject the Gospel and justification by faith. Their Gospel is that they have been predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. Which is another Gospel, Galatians 1:7. The Gospel of predestination is a false Gospel and perverts the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. No one will enter into heaven that has not been justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus Christ. If God does not see us as perfect and complete in Jesus Christ, we will most certainly perish.

No one will be saved that has not ceased from their works or their religion and has entered into his rest, Hebrews 4:10. To embrace Christ as your only means of salvation is to embrace his Gospel and to enter into his rest.

fishrovmen
March 2nd, 2016, 11:22 AM
The unforgivable sin is repeatedly and knowingly supplying caricatures and falsehoods just to get to "legend status" on TOL because all these threads say the same things as the others that were deleted. Guilty as charged. Maybe the mods will impute those previously canceled threads back to you.

Grosnick Marowbe
March 2nd, 2016, 11:22 AM
Matthew 12:22-32 states: :"Then there was brought to Him a demon-possessed man who was blind and dumb, and He healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. 23And all the multitudes were amazed, and began to say, "This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?" 24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man casts out demons only by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons." 25And knowing their thoughts He said to them, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself shall not stand. 26"And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand? 27"And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? Consequently they shall be your judges. 28"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29"Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30"He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters. 31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come,"

There is a possibility that, since Christ was speaking to the Lost sheep of the House of Israel at that time, perhaps the blasphemy spoken of is, only meant for that period of time? (Before the Grace Gospel is introduced by the Apostle Paul?) Thus, such a blasphemy cannot be committed during this Dispensation of Grace?

Robert Pate
March 2nd, 2016, 12:51 PM
Matthew 12:22-32 states: :"Then there was brought to Him a demon-possessed man who was blind and dumb, and He healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. 23And all the multitudes were amazed, and began to say, "This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?" 24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man casts out demons only by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons." 25And knowing their thoughts He said to them, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself shall not stand. 26"And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand? 27"And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? Consequently they shall be your judges. 28"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29"Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30"He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters. 31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come,"

There is a possibility that, since Christ was speaking to the Lost sheep of the House of Israel at that time, perhaps the blasphemy spoken of is, only meant for that period of time? (Before the Grace Gospel is introduced by the Apostle Paul?) Thus, such a blasphemy cannot be committed during this Dispensation of Grace?

It can be committed during this time. To reject Christ and his Gospel is to commit the unforgivable sin, Hebrews 10:26-29.

Robert Pate
March 2nd, 2016, 12:54 PM
The unforgivable sin is repeatedly and knowingly supplying caricatures and falsehoods just to get to "legend status" on TOL because all these threads say the same things as the others that were deleted. Guilty as charged. Maybe the mods will impute those previously canceled threads back to you.

The unforgivable sin is to reject Christ and his Gospel and to replace it with Calvinism.

jamie
March 2nd, 2016, 12:56 PM
No one will be saved that has not ceased from their works or their religion and has entered into his rest, Hebrews 4:10.


And Jesus' day of rest is the seventh day of the week.


For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works" (Hebrews 4:4)

Robert Pate
March 2nd, 2016, 01:15 PM
And Jesus' day of rest is the seventh day of the week.


For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works" (Hebrews 4:4)

The question is... Have you ceased from your works and have entered into his rest? Hebrews 4:10.

jamie
March 2nd, 2016, 01:58 PM
The question is... Have you ceased from your works and have entered into his rest? Hebrews 4:10.


Yes, I rest weekly on the seventh day of the week. And you?

Robert Pate
March 2nd, 2016, 03:22 PM
Yes, I rest weekly on the seventh day of the week. And you?

That was not the question.

The question is... Have you ceased from your own works and are resting in the work of Christ?

jamie
March 2nd, 2016, 04:05 PM
That was not the question.

The question is... Have you ceased from your own works and are resting in the work of Christ?


I answered your question, I rest each week on the seventh day.


And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. (Genesis 2:2)

And then he went back to work and so do we.


For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:10)

Do you work?

Ben Masada
March 3rd, 2016, 04:47 AM
What is the unforgivable sin?

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men and whosoever that speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever that speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come" Matthew 12:31, 32.

On the day of Pentecost the Gospel came into the world for the very first time in the power of the Holy Spirit, Acts 2: 4. The Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are inseparable. You cannot have one without the other. Paul makes this clear when he said, "Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the deliberate rejection of Christ and his Gospel. To reject the Gospel is to reject Christ. You cannot say that you believe in Jesus and then reject what he has done to justify you before a Holy God. This is why Christians are justified by faith. They are justified by faith because they are justified by Christ. Jesus Christ is their justifier, Romans 3:26.

Which brings us to religion. The Catholic church does not believe they are justified by Christ alone. They do not believe the Gospel. They believe that it is the Holy Spirit working in their lives that justifies them and makes them pleasing to God. To reject the saving work of Jesus Christ is to reject the Gospel and to commit the unpardonable sin.

Calvinist reject the Gospel and justification by faith. Their Gospel is that they have been predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. Which is another Gospel, Galatians 1:7. The Gospel of predestination is a false Gospel and perverts the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. No one will enter into heaven that has not been justified by the doing and the dying of Jesus Christ. If God does not see us as perfect and complete in Jesus Christ, we will most certainly perish.

No one will be saved that has not ceased from their works or their religion and has entered into his rest, Hebrews 4:10. To embrace Christ as your only means of salvation is to embrace his Gospel and to enter into his rest.

The unforgivable sin is the sin of suicide. The Logic of the matter is that the one who commits suicide, he
or she has lost the chance to appeal for his or her forgiveness. Hence, no forgiveness.

chair
March 3rd, 2016, 07:23 AM
The unforgivable sin is to reject Christ and his Gospel and to replace it with Calvinism.

What about the sin of spending all of your time knocking others?

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 09:12 AM
The unforgivable sin is the sin of suicide. The Logic of the matter is that the one who commits suicide, he
or she has lost the chance to appeal for his or her forgiveness. Hence, no forgiveness.

Where does it say that?

There will be no pleading for forgiveness in the judgment.

You will either be found in your sins or you will be found in Christ.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 09:14 AM
The unforgivable sin is the sin of suicide. The Logic of the matter is that the one who commits suicide, he
or she has lost the chance to appeal for his or her forgiveness. Hence, no forgiveness.


No forgiveness is necessary. The penalty for sin is death and once that penalty has been paid a person is freed from sin.

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 09:16 AM
I answered your question, I rest each week on the seventh day.


And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. (Genesis 2:2)

And then he went back to work and so do we.


For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:10)

Do you work?


No, I don't work for my salvation.

How can you earn something that is already a gift from God, Ephesians 2:8.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 09:40 AM
No, I don't work for my salvation.


I don't either, I work for my Brother. It's a family business.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 09:43 AM
The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the deliberate rejection of Christ and his Gospel.


Is there a law against rejecting Christ?

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 09:45 AM
Is there a law against rejecting Christ?

Yes, It will result in a one way ticket to hell.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 09:52 AM
Yes, It will result in a one way ticket to hell.


When were they judged, i.e., who issues that ticket? Jesus said he doesn't.


And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. (John 12:47)

chair
March 3rd, 2016, 10:10 AM
Yes, It will result in a one way ticket to hell.

Nah.

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 11:40 AM
When were they judged, i.e., who issues that ticket? Jesus said he doesn't.


And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. (John 12:47)

There will be a judgment, Revelation 20:11-15.

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 11:41 AM
Nah.

The Christians judgment has already taken place in Christ, but yours is yet to come.

chair
March 3rd, 2016, 12:34 PM
The Christians judgment has already taken place in Christ, but yours is yet to come.

Mr. Pate. Find something useful to do with your life.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 01:22 PM
There will be a judgment, Revelation 20:11-15.


Ok, by whom?

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 02:06 PM
Ok, by whom?

Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:10.

Jesus's purpose in coming into the world was not to judge, but to save. But he will judge.

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mr. Pate. Find something useful to do with your life.

My purpose is to give you light, but you seem to prefer darkness, John 3:19-21.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 03:45 PM
Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:10.

Jesus's purpose in coming into the world was not to judge, but to save. But he will judge.


You've changed the subject. Paul's writing to the church at Corinth is not related to an unforgivable sin which was our subject.

You are the one who proclaims there is no law, so is there a law against blaspheming the Holy Spirit. If so, whose law is it? If not, then your point is moot.

Robert Pate
March 3rd, 2016, 04:11 PM
You've changed the subject. Paul's writing to the church at Corinth is not related to an unforgivable sin which was our subject.

You are the one who proclaims there is no law, so is there a law against blaspheming the Holy Spirit. If so, whose law is it? If not, then your point is moot.

There is a law, but Christians are not under it. Here is who the law is for, 1 Timothy 1:9, 10.

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 06:10 PM
There is a law, but Christians are not under it. Here is who the law is for, 1 Timothy 1:9, 10.


Are you saying that Christians are free to blaspheme the Holy Spirit if they choose to do so since there is no law or rules or regulations for Christians?

patrick jane
March 3rd, 2016, 06:20 PM
Are you saying that Christians are free to blaspheme the Holy Spirit if they choose to do so since there is no law or rules or regulations for Christians?
Mark 3:28-29 KJV -

jamie
March 3rd, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mark 3:28-29 KJV -


Pate is saying that doesn't apply to Christians. That's his law.

Flaminggg
March 3rd, 2016, 11:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_boPWCwUZX0

(Pope John Paul 2, tells the Antichrist's Father, that he is to r**e his body until he dies by bleeding from his bowls and he does exactly that) (years later and many unspeakable acts of cruelty) (some of the people that lose their live prematurely by causing the Antichrist unnecessary levels of suffering pain, are told to do so by their parents, a smaller and younger body is easier to conceal when it becomes deceased)

(Thousands of years ago, the Roman Army dug up hundreds of mass graves just outside of jerusalem for the bodies of Genetic Dan, and this when on the entire length of the life span of Jesus, today, all we understand is that there are hundreds of very large wells full of water, and noone questions the purposes)

(God tells Isreal the Unforgivable Sin is attempting to kill the testimony of Joseph, of which Christ is King)

(Jesus wrote in the Stars/Sand to answer Isreal about the Unforgivable Sin, of which he caused Stephen to be stoned to death immediately, so that he was caused to be deceased)

(The last thing that was said facing the anniversary of Flight 370 was to use a sniper rifle on the Antichrist, and another commercial airliner will die)

(Every Parable Jesus uttered in the New Testament is a description of the Unforgivable Sin, so you can imagine how lengthy that conclusion would be, nonetheless, there are at least more than a few points that were touched on already ... when billions are finally deceased, they will die as disgusting and revolting people, guilty of the Unforgivable Sin, and this is already done)

(As the Antichrist's Lifespan continues to come to a close, we have not reached the full level of the potential these people have, in mass murder, that these people have until that time, released and enjoyed with the Antichrist continually, and as often as they desire this to be done)

intojoy
March 4th, 2016, 01:11 AM
All wrong except GM

Ask Mr. Religion
March 4th, 2016, 02:18 AM
Matthew 12:31 describes the sin attributing to Satan (e.g., exorcisms described in previous verses) the work of the Holy Spirit. In other words the unforgiveable sin was rejecting the Holy Spirit's testimony to Christ. After all, it is blasphemy of the Spirit.

This is a sin that is only possible by the reprobate. When men encounter the truth, and harden themselves against it, they are but finishing the process—humanly speaking—of their own condemnation. The Pharisees literally saw with physical eyes the power of God, exercised in the man Christ Jesus, wholly infilled and purely and perfectly directed by the Holy Spirit. By Our Lord's own infallible testimony, these persons had understood sufficiently what manner of gracious power was at work right in front of them to command their devotion—and instead they preferred to attribute those wonderful words and works to Satan. Such willful blindness is almost inconceivable.

The same Holy Spirit is at work today, still bearing witness to Our Lord. Accordingly, I those who read the Spirit's account of Christ's ministry in the New Testament, and say "that's a fairy tale," are in the exact same position as were the leaders who rejected Christ in those days of Matthew 12. If you put out your own eyes, God has no obligation to rectify that condition, allowing you to see again that you might be saved. In fact, it is most likely that such was God's foreordained means by which you would merit your hopeless destiny. We see these means at work at Chorazin and Bethsaida, in that those places were not shown the testimony of the miracles of Christ (God has no obligation to do so) as a portion of the judgment against those that put out their own eyes:

"Woe to you Chorazin! Woe to you Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes... And you Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to hell; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you" (Matthew 11:21-24).

The unregenerate elect cannot commit the unforgivable sin, else election is impossible, not to mention it would be a situation of pardoning that which is unpardonable, a contradiction. The regenerate elect, having the Spirit indwelling them, cannot commit the unpardonable sin as it is impossible for them to blaspheme He who indwells them.

AMR

Robert Pate
March 4th, 2016, 10:24 AM
Matthew 12:31 describes the sin attributing to Satan (e.g., exorcisms described in previous verses) the work of the Holy Spirit. In other words the unforgiveable sin was rejecting the Holy Spirit's testimony to Christ. After all, it is blasphemy of the Spirit.

This is a sin that is only possible by the reprobate. When men encounter the truth, and harden themselves against it, they are but finishing the process—humanly speaking—of their own condemnation. The Pharisees literally saw with physical eyes the power of God, exercised in the man Christ Jesus, wholly infilled and purely and perfectly directed by the Holy Spirit. By Our Lord's own infallible testimony, these persons had understood sufficiently what manner of gracious power was at work right in front of them to command their devotion—and instead they preferred to attribute those wonderful words and works to Satan. Such willful blindness is almost inconceivable.

The same Holy Spirit is at work today, still bearing witness to Our Lord. Accordingly, I those who read the Spirit's account of Christ's ministry in the New Testament, and say "that's a fairy tale," are in the exact same position as were the leaders who rejected Christ in those days of Matthew 12. If you put out your own eyes, God has no obligation to rectify that condition, allowing you to see again that you might be saved. In fact, it is most likely that such was God's foreordained means by which you would merit your hopeless destiny. We see these means at work at Chorazin and Bethsaida, in that those places were not shown the testimony of the miracles of Christ (God has no obligation to do so) as a portion of the judgment against those that put out their own eyes:

"Woe to you Chorazin! Woe to you Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes... And you Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to hell; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you" (Matthew 11:21-24).

The unregenerate elect cannot commit the unforgivable sin, else election is impossible, not to mention it would be a situation of pardoning that which is unpardonable, a contradiction. The regenerate elect, having the Spirit indwelling them, cannot commit the unpardonable sin as it is impossible for them to blaspheme He who indwells them.

AMR

Many of your Calvinist brothers and sisters do not posses the Holy Spirit because they do not believe, nor have they ever embraced the Gospel.

They think that the Gospel is that they have been predestinated. Which is a false Gospel or another Gospel.

They make the cross of Christ of no effect.

Flaminggg
March 4th, 2016, 11:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY-QBvy3lR8

1. (Pope John Paul II, tells the Antichrist's Father, that he is to r**e his body until he dies by bleeding from his bowls and he does exactly that)
2. (Non-Whites are used like weapons and told to cause the Antichrist, suffering and pain until until they kill themselves or kill those around them)
3. (Euthanasia of the Non-Whites, seems to have discouraged any official falsification of the legal system with the intend of killing the Antichrist's Testimony, in otherwords they are simply afraid, euthanasia beyond nightly walks and other opportunistic behavior has not developed as of yet)
4. (Euthanasia of the Non-Whites on a country scale repeatedly in 2013, based on force, seemed to have made the Non-Whites more bold in killing so that in 2014, their kind was driven to kill the public and to kill themselves in full daylight (2014 Church Picnic Killings by Vehicular Homicide and other), that is the furthest they have come so far)
5. (between 2013 and 2014, I created a facebook page linking political euthanasia to our nightly walks, which facebook shut down after half the list I made was finished in less than a month, vice president Joe Biden's son passes away at 46 years old)
6. (the Antichrist boasted about eliminating every piece of human life that does not apply in the USA, when some great sign or something takes place, but in reality he may need these people to commit suicide by attacking, so we do not know approaching 3/23/2016)
7. (at this level, the Antichrist has no direct means of euthanasia, to stop the process of "Suicide by Antichrist", nothing like spontaneous combustion or incineration of anykind as of this level)

About 46 Parables that God uses to describe the "Unforgivable Sin" in the New Testament, where Jesus states he does not pay for sin with "Joseph the Blessing"

JOHN 10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
JOHN 10:40 And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.

Jesus told Moses not to go beyond the Jordan, because what Moses saw ontop of the mountain was unclean for him to inherit. Now Jesus is seen rebuking Isreal by going beyond the Jordan River, in responds to the mass murder of his testimony. Which of the Apostles did Jesus say that "today you will be with me and my father in heaven, thus come down from the cross", and again, "Which Apostle did Jesus Love", the answer is no Apostle safe for the Antichrist. The Antichrist will be caught up in the Air with the Body of Jesus (Temple Stones/UFOs), and those that Jesus plans to save at the end of time. Love and Blessings. (Equal Potential that Heaven Affords, is the statement that applies to Joseph, we may need to talk more about this).

Ask Mr. Religion
March 4th, 2016, 01:52 PM
Your allotted time on the institution's community room computer is up. And the nice lady with the green Jell-O cart is coming. :AMR:

AMR

Flaminggg
March 4th, 2016, 10:51 PM
Your allotted time on the institution's community room computer is up. And the nice lady with the green Jell-O cart is coming. :AMR:

AMR

LUKE 10:40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.

(The "Lives don't matter campaigns, promoting Suicide by Cop", became an international problem of ethnicity only weeks after Flight 370 originally disappeared, March 8, 2014. Since late 2015, the current trend has been homicide of young children typically by groups of teenagers, just use google, theres a few dozen children shot multiple times: "star spangled banner, styled executions". What is genetic dan's greatest claim against the antichrist as they pass away? They claim he does not have a legal right to live. Truth be told Mother Nature is helping the Antichrist out by eliminating these people with the Zika Virus, among other viruses, and calamities and a diversity of other methods of execution. What do you think will happen in 4 days from now on March 8, 2016 if billions of lives will truly pass away this year, if something special happens. ................... God says very clearly, a large portion of humanity like Martha does not have a legal right to live in the presence of Star Wormwood, they simply do not qualify, and no measure of false witnesses or murder of the Antichrist or of themselves means anything at all. Right now, I can be only more willing to elaborate on or after March 8, 2016. We don't want them to hurt themselves for our sakes, because they choose to do that to themselves exceedingly, so we need to see if God will help the authorities and the media understand the public safety threat, and the necessity of doing what becomes necessary. Love and Blessings)

Robert Pate
March 5th, 2016, 04:26 PM
Why is it that I seem to attract all of these...?