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Robert Pate
November 6th, 2015, 08:46 AM
IMPUTATION: A word meaning to attribute something to a person or reckoning something to the account of another.

THE IMPUTATION OF ADAM'S SIN TO THE HUMAN RACE.

The best scripture to describe how Adam's sin was imputed to his decendants is found in Romans 5:12. "Wherefore as by one man sin entered the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned". We have inherited Adam's sinful nature. Adam is our first father and is the federal head and representative of the human race. As Adam goes, so go we. We are sinners without works. We did not become sinners no more than we can become righteous. King David said, "I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me" Psalm 51:5. We are born sinners because of our relationship to Adam.

THE IMPUTATION OF OUR SINS AND THE SINS OF THE WORLD TO CHRIST.

Christ bore our sins in his body. While Jesus was dying on the cross God imputed our sins and the sins of the world to Jesus and put him to death, 1 John 2:2. Isaiah wrote, "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed" Isaiah 53:5. Peter picked up on what Isaiah had written and wrote, Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree' 1 Peter2:24. Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 5:21, "For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him"

THE IMPUTATION OF CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS TO THE BELIEVER.

Christians are MADE righteous by the imputed righteousness of Christ. They do not become righteous. They are MADE righteous. All that have come to Christ as repentant sinners by faith in Christ and his Gospel are justified (Made righteous) by the doing and the dying of Jesus. Jesus is the Christians justifier, Romans 3:26. "Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness" Romans 4:3. Faith counts for righteousness, not works or religion. This righteousness is to the Christians account. He doesn't have it yet. As long as he is here on this earth in his Adamic body he is a sinner, a saved sinner. Abraham believed in God's promise of a savior and it was imputed to him for righteousness, James 2:23.

THE IMPUTATION OF SIN TO THE NON BELIEVER IN THE JUDGMENT.

In the judgment there will be believers and non believers. There will be those that are "In Christ" and those that are outside of Christ. "We shall all appear before the judgment seat of Christ" 2 Corinthians 5:10. The purpose of this is to separate the believers from the non believers. God's mark of ownership is the Holy Spirit. They are the bought ones that will go off into eternal life. Those who do not have the Holy Spirit are the lost. They will go off to the Great White Thrown judgment where their sins will be imputed back to them and they will be condemned. King David said, "Blessed are they whose sins are forgiven and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin" Romans 4:7, 8.

jamie
November 6th, 2015, 08:57 AM
They will go off to the Great White Thrown judgment where their sins will be imputed back to them and they will be condemned.


Paul said the wages of sin is death. He also said he who has died has been freed from sin.

This means there are no sins to impute when the dead are raised. They will be judged according to their works at that time, but salvation is by grace through faith and not by works.

Robert Pate
November 6th, 2015, 09:08 AM
Paul said the wages of sin is death. He also said he who has died has been freed from sin.

This means there are no sins to impute when the dead are raised. They will be judged according to their works at that time, but salvation is by grace through faith and not by works.

You can't make sense out of the scriptures by grabbing a scripture from one part of the Bible and another scripture from another part of the Bible and try to make a doctrine out of them.

To be found outside of Christ is to be found in your sins.

patrick jane
November 6th, 2015, 09:17 AM
Imputation is a good word to know. So is propitation

1 John 2:2 KJV -

jamie
November 6th, 2015, 09:18 AM
You can't make sense out of the scriptures by grabbing a scripture from one part of the Bible and another scripture from another part of the Bible and try to make a doctrine out of them.


Both of my statements are from the sixth chapter of Romans. Are you saying Paul contradicts himself in the same chapter.


For the wages of sin is death... (Romans 6:23 NKJV)

For he who has died has been freed from sin. (Romans 6:7 NKJV)

Robert Pate
November 6th, 2015, 09:28 AM
Both of my statements are from the sixth chapter of Romans. Are you saying Paul contradicts himself in the same chapter.


For the wages of sin is death... (Romans 6:23 NKJV)

For he who has died has been freed from sin. (Romans 6:7 NKJV)


The wages of sin are death for those who are NOT "In Christ".

Romans 6:7 pretains to those who have been crucified and have died with Christ. See Romans 6:6.

jamie
November 6th, 2015, 09:47 AM
The wages of sin are death for those who are NOT "In Christ".

Romans 6:7 pretains to those who have been crucified and have died with Christ. See Romans 6:6.


So you're saying those not in Christ die and those in Christ die?

PureX
November 6th, 2015, 09:54 AM
The more people keep chasing after righteousness, the more lost to sin they will become.

Robert Pate
November 6th, 2015, 10:08 AM
So you're saying those not in Christ die and those in Christ die?

You have a choice.

You can die "In Christ".

Or you can die in your sins.

Robert Pate
November 6th, 2015, 10:09 AM
The more people keep chasing after righteousness, the more lost to sin they will become.

Right!

Some Catholics go to mass everyday.

iouae
November 6th, 2015, 10:10 AM
For he who has died has been freed from sin. (Romans 6:7 NKJV)[/INDENT]

This verse out of context sounds like when one dies, all one's sins are forgiven. Then all would be saved without Christ.

But in context it means that old-man-dead/new-man-born-again Christians have their sins forgiven.

And this new sin-free righteousness is imputed since it happens when our sins are forgiven - not an act we do for ourselves.

jamie
November 6th, 2015, 10:40 AM
This verse out of context sounds like when one dies, all one's sins are forgiven.


They are not forgiven ... they are paid. Death is what we earn for sin, it's a debt to the law.

Once a debt is paid it is paid whether Christ redeems us from the debt or we pay it ourself.

God doesn't double bill us for sin.

iouae
November 6th, 2015, 10:45 AM
They are not forgiven ... they are paid. Death is what we earn for sin, it's a debt to the law.

Once a debt is paid it is paid whether Christ redeems us from the debt or we pay it ourself.

God doesn't double bill us for sin.

I agree with you.

patrick jane
November 6th, 2015, 10:49 AM
This verse out of context sounds like when one dies, all one's sins are forgiven. Then all would be saved without Christ.

But in context it means that old-man-dead/new-man-born-again Christians have their sins forgiven.

And this new sin-free righteousness is imputed since it happens when our sins are forgiven - not an act we do for ourselves.

I'm dead and you're dead too !!!!

Romans 6:11 KJV - Galatians 2:20 KJV -

patrick jane
November 6th, 2015, 10:52 AM
I agree with you.

You're wrong -

1 Timothy 2:4-8 KJV -

iouae
November 6th, 2015, 11:13 AM
You're wrong -

1 Timothy 2:4-8 KJV -

Which part of Jamie's post is incorrect? He wrote....

They are not forgiven ... they are paid. Death is what we earn for sin, it's a debt to the law.

Once a debt is paid it is paid whether Christ redeems us from the debt or we pay it ourself.

God doesn't double bill us for sin.

Robert Pate
November 6th, 2015, 12:47 PM
This is how it is.

We are in debt to the law. The law demands absolute obedience. We don't have the righteousness to satisfy what the law demands because we are sinners, the law demands perfection.

Jesus has redeemed us from the curse of the law by doing for us that which we cannot do for ourselves. In our name and on our behalf, Jesus has satisfied the demands of the law. Because of what Jesus accomplished for us we can now stand before God as justified.