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heir
October 29th, 2015, 12:39 PM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!

Robert Pate
October 29th, 2015, 03:20 PM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!


Spiritually, Jesus has abolished sin, death and the devil.

If Jesus had not abolished sin, death and the devil, Jesus would not be Lord, Colossians 2:15.

Nor would God have welcomed him back into heaven.

Jesus has perfected the human race and has taken it to heaven. So that now, All who do nothing more than call upon his name shall be saved, Romans 10:13.

heir
October 29th, 2015, 03:33 PM
Spiritually, Jesus has abolished sin, death and the devil.

If Jesus had not abolished sin, death and the devil, Jesus would not be Lord, Colossians 2:15.

Nor would God have welcomed him back into heaven.

Jesus has perfected the human race and has taken it to heaven. So that now, All who do nothing more than call upon his name shall be saved, Romans 10:13.The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV,1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). God is calling all men (1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV) by that gospel. Believing IN the name of Jesus Christ is not enough to save anyone today, but is what Israel failed to do.

Bradley D
October 30th, 2015, 12:31 AM
Believing includes faith and trust. Both of which are necessary to be saved and do God's work. Through Jesus, who was sinless, our sins have been forgiven by His ultimate sacrifice. It is a recognition of sin that drives one to Christ. Israel failed by thinking they could be sinless by their works and the continuous flowing of animal sacrificed blood.

SaulToPaul
October 30th, 2015, 10:24 AM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!

There goes the catholic church and all of the protestant denominations out the window! Rendered unnecessary.

Wick Stick
October 30th, 2015, 11:12 AM
There goes the catholic church and all of the protestant denominations out the window! Rendered unnecessary.
You might be onto something there.... religious institutions, unnecessary? Jesus... sufficient?

SaulToPaul
October 30th, 2015, 11:13 AM
You might be onto something there.... religious institutions, unnecessary? Jesus... sufficient?

Unnecessary, yes, and a hindrance.

beloved57
October 30th, 2015, 12:01 PM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!

False teaching ! Those reconciled to God cant be charged with unbelief because that would mean they are under Gods Wrath and Condemnation ! Jn 3:18,36 !

You cant be reconciled to God and under His Wrath and condemnation at the same time !

Reconciliation brings Peace with God Col 1:20

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

So your comment is a Lie ! They are reconciled while enemies Rom 5:10 !

beloved57
October 30th, 2015, 12:03 PM
Believing includes faith and trust. Both of which are necessary to be saved and do God's work. Through Jesus, who was sinless, our sins have been forgiven by His ultimate sacrifice. It is a recognition of sin that drives one to Christ. Israel failed by thinking they could be sinless by their works and the continuous flowing of animal sacrificed blood.

Those Christ died for are saved/reconciled to God while they are enemies/unbelievers Rom 5:10 their believing had nothing to do with it !

beloved57
October 30th, 2015, 12:05 PM
Spiritually, Jesus has abolished sin, death and the devil.

If Jesus had not abolished sin, death and the devil, Jesus would not be Lord, Colossians 2:15.

Nor would God have welcomed him back into heaven.

Jesus has perfected the human race and has taken it to heaven. So that now, All who do nothing more than call upon his name shall be saved, Romans 10:13.

False teaching, those Christ died for are reconciled to God without calling upon His Name, they are enemies Rom 5:10 !

beloved57
October 30th, 2015, 12:10 PM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!

Sin is the issue, for death, second death is the wages of sin Rom 6:23 but those in 2 Cor 5:19 have no sins charged to them, so death, even second death for them has been abolished ! Rev 21:8


But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Unbelieving is a sin like murder, whoremongering, sorcery, idolatry !

Grosnick Marowbe
October 30th, 2015, 12:12 PM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!

AMEN!!

Grosnick Marowbe
October 30th, 2015, 12:15 PM
False teaching ! Those reconciled to God cant be charged with unbelief because that would mean they are under Gods Wrath and Condemnation ! Jn 3:18,36 !

You cant be reconciled to God and under His Wrath and condemnation at the same time !

Reconciliation brings Peace with God Col 1:20

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

So your comment is a Lie ! They are reconciled while enemies Rom 5:10 !

Face it, you're a "Hyper-Calvinist Extremist." Your preaching
doesn't help the cause of the Grace Gospel.

1Mind1Spirit
October 30th, 2015, 12:53 PM
Unnecessary, yes, and a hindrance.

Including Southern Baptist dispensationism.

:wazzup:

SaulToPaul
October 30th, 2015, 01:07 PM
Including Southern Baptist dispensationism.

:wazzup:

Agreed.

Far out, dude.

1Mind1Spirit
October 30th, 2015, 05:59 PM
Agreed.

Far out, dude.

Cool, dude. :)

musterion
October 30th, 2015, 06:22 PM
False teaching, those Christ died for are reconciled to God without calling upon His Name, they are enemies Rom 5:10 !

False gospel, negates faith (Eph 2:8-9). Repent or burn in the Lake, fool.

beloved57
October 30th, 2015, 06:27 PM
False gospel, negates faith (Eph 2:8-9). Repent or burn in the Lake, fool.

Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies Rom 5:10 so you are a false witness!

Bradley D
October 30th, 2015, 09:38 PM
Those Christ died for are saved/reconciled to God while they are enemies/unbelievers Rom 5:10 their believing had nothing to do with it !

"For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!" (Rom. 5:10)

Even while I was dead in sin Christ's sacrifice was there offered to me if I would come to Him and believe. Which I did.

Believing is very important.

"How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" (Romans 10:14)

beloved57
October 31st, 2015, 03:49 AM
"For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!" (Rom. 5:10)

Even while I was dead in sin Christ's sacrifice was there offered to me if I would come to Him and believe. Which I did.

Believing is very important.

"How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" (Romans 10:14)

You teach of a different christ, the Christ I serve reconciled me to God by His Death while I was a enemy and unbeliever Rom 5:10 !

musterion
October 31st, 2015, 04:20 AM
Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies Rom 5:10 so you are a false witness!

They're still unsaved without faith. That's the part Calvinists don't like. The Bible says God expects faith from all, and condemns those who refuse. That makes TULIP a lie.

beloved57
October 31st, 2015, 04:24 AM
They're still unsaved without faith.

That's according to your false religion! If a person is reconciled to God, then they are in a right relationship with Him and in His Favour,while a unbeliever! Rom5:10!

musterion
October 31st, 2015, 04:30 AM
That's according to your false religion! If a person is reconciled to God, then they are in a right relationship with Him and in His Favour,while a unbeliever! Rom5:10!

You call Eph 2:8 a lie.

beloved57
October 31st, 2015, 05:09 AM
You call Eph 2:8 a lie.

No, but you don't believe or understand that scripture! You are a unbeliever!

heir
October 31st, 2015, 02:50 PM
So your comment is a Lie ! They are reconciled while enemies Rom 5:10 !God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) as in:

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


It is a due time message that the man Christ Jesus gave Himself a ransom for all and the message is to all men!

But just as the righteousness of God is unto all, it is only upon all them that believe!

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

So, the due time message is that God will save all men no matter who they are or what they were doing while they were there: as God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them! When anyone trusts the Lord believing that Christ died for their sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day they are saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). That is the gospel of Christ, where the righteousness of God is revealed (Romans 1:16-17 KJV)!

heir
October 31st, 2015, 02:55 PM
No, but you don't believe or understand that scripture! You are a unbeliever!

Go bug a Catholic who believes not that scripture. Grace believers clearly do, as we 2 Timothy 2:7-8 KJV.

beloved57
October 31st, 2015, 03:05 PM
God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) as in:

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


It is a due time message that the man Christ Jesus gave Himself a ransom for all and the message is to all men!

But just as the righteousness of God is unto all, it is only upon all them that believe!

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

So, the due time message is that God will save all men no matter who they are or what they were doing while they were there: as God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them! When anyone trusts the Lord believing that Christ died for their sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day they are saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). That is the gospel of Christ, where the righteousness of God is revealed (Romans 1:16-17 KJV)!

Your comment was a lie ! One who is reconciled to God while being an enemy Rom 5:10 they arent condemned for unbelief ! If that was True they could not have been reconciled to God !

heir
November 2nd, 2015, 12:10 AM
Your comment was a lie ! One who is reconciled to God while being an enemy Rom 5:10 they arent condemned for unbelief ! If that was True they could not have been reconciled to God !God reconciled the world unto Himself not imputiing their trespasses unto them (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) . For He (God, the father) hath made him (the Son, Jesus Christ) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV).

Yet NO ONE has the righteousness of God UPON THEM until they BELIEVE even though it is UNTO ALL (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). Trust the Lord after hearing and BELIEVING the gospel of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV), where the righteousness of God is revealed (Romans 1:16-17 KJV) and it will be UPON you too (Romans 4:24-25 KJV)! Until then, you are just a loud, but lost religious drone (2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV, 2 Corinthians 13:5 KJV)!

beloved57
November 2nd, 2015, 12:14 AM
God reconciled the world unto Himself not imputiing their trespasses unto them (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) . For He (God, the father) hath made him (the Son, Jesus Christ) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV).

Yet NO ONE has the righteousness of God UPON THEM until they BELIEVE evewn though it is UNTO ALL (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). Trust the Lord after hearing and BELIEVING the gospel of Christ (1 Corintthians 15:1-4 KJV), where the righteousness of God is revealed (Romans 1:16-17 KJV) and it will be UPON you too (Romans 4:24-25 KJV)! Until then, you are just a loud, but lost religious drone!

Thats another lie, those Christ died for are made righteous by His One Obedience Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

And those who dont have sin charged to them are righteous ! You are a false witness !

heir
November 2nd, 2015, 06:34 AM
Thats another lie, those Christ died for are made righteous by His One Obedience Rom 5:19

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

beloved57
November 2nd, 2015, 06:38 AM
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Them verses are fine, you dont believe them or understand them !

You dont believe that Christ's one Obedience made many Righteous Rom 5:19 !

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Thats Imputed Righteousness without any obedience, faith or repentance from the sinner !

heir
November 2nd, 2015, 06:45 AM
Them verses are fine, you dont believe them or understand them !

You dont believe that Christ's one Obedience made many Righteous Rom 5:19 !

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Thats Imputed Righteousness without any obedience, faith or repentance from the sinner !You are wrong. Christ's finished work is not put to your account unless you believe/the obedience of faith!

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Romans 16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

heir
November 2nd, 2015, 06:46 AM
Them verses are fine, you dont believe them or understand them !

You dont believe that Christ's one Obedience made many Righteous Rom 5:19 !

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Thats Imputed Righteousness without any obedience, faith or repentance from the sinner !Those who receive not the love of the truth (by the obedience of faith) will perish!

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

beloved57
November 2nd, 2015, 06:50 AM
Those who receive not the love of the truth (by the obedience of faith) will perish!

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Those Christ died for are received, reconciled to God, in a right relationship with Him while they are enemies Rom 5:10 ! They cannot perish neither, because no sin is charged to them 2 Cor 5:19, death is only the wage of sin Rom 6:23 ! How can anyone perish with eternal death who has no sin charged unto them ?

beloved57
November 2nd, 2015, 06:52 AM
Those who receive not the love of the truth (by the obedience of faith) will perish!

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Thats you by the way, because you dont receive the Love of the Truth !:duh:

OCTOBER23
November 2nd, 2015, 08:56 AM
HEIR AND ROBERT PATE.

DO WE NOW HAVE THE FREEDOM TO SIN EVERY DAY ????????

It does not sound Kosher....:nono:

heir
November 2nd, 2015, 11:18 AM
HEIR AND ROBERT PATE.

DO WE NOW HAVE THE FREEDOM TO SIN EVERY DAY ????????

It does not sound Kosher....:nono:We are dead and he that is dead is freed from sin.



Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

heir
November 2nd, 2015, 11:20 AM
Thats you by the way, because you dont receive the Love of the Truth !:duh:
:troll:


Nope. I have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and am saved!

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

beloved57
November 2nd, 2015, 12:19 PM
:troll:


Nope. I have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and am saved!

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

You havent believed in the Christ of scripture ! Thats absolutely impossible since you reject TULIP Truths that are representative of Gods Gospel of Grace in Christ ! Do you believe that ?

patrick jane
November 2nd, 2015, 11:24 PM
You havent believed in the Christ of scripture ! Thats absolutely impossible since you reject TULIP Truths that are representative of Gods Gospel of Grace in Christ ! Do you believe that ?

redundant -

OCTOBER23
November 3rd, 2015, 12:40 AM
HEIR IS DEAD :dead:

We are dead and he that is dead is freed from sin.
----------------------------------------------------------

We will miss you HEIR .........RIP:rip:

She is now FREEEEEE :rapture:

beloved57
November 3rd, 2015, 02:50 AM
You are wrong. Christ's finished work is not put to your account unless you believe/the obedience of faith!

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Romans 16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

False teaching, the Christ of the scriptures, by His one obedience many were made righteous Rom 5:18-19, that is imputed righteousness, without Faith!

beloved57
November 3rd, 2015, 02:51 AM
redundant -

The false teaching is redundant!

heir
November 3rd, 2015, 07:28 AM
False teaching, the Christ of the scriptures, by His one obedience many were made righteous Rom 5:18-19, that is imputed righteousness, without Faith!The many includes the Romans to whom Paul wrote the letter. And the passage does not say "were made righteous", but "shall be made righteous".

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

What saith the scripture as to whom and how the righteousness of God by the faith of Jesus Christ is upon?

Side note for those who 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV: this "many" is before the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men (Titus 2:11 KJV), which is a due time inclusive to all men (1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV), a testifying of the gospel of the grace of God (Acts 20:24 KJV)!

beloved57
November 3rd, 2015, 07:31 AM
The many includes the Romans to whom Paul wrote the letter. And the passage does not say "were made righteous", but "shall be made righteous".

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

And this "many" is before the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men (Titus 2:11 KJV), which is a due time inclusive to all men (1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV)!

You can quote scripture until doomsday, those Christ died for are made Righteous by His One act of Obedience Rom 5:19, they had no faith in Christ at all, and so Righteousness was Imputed without works/Faith ! Rom 4:6

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

That scripture right there also exposes you as a false witness !

heir
November 3rd, 2015, 07:35 AM
You can quote scripture until doomsday, those Christ died for are made Righteous by His One act of Obedience Rom 5:19, they had no faith in Christ at all, and so Righteousness was Imputed without works/Faith ! Rom 4:6
I do quote scripture and believe it. You change it. tsk.tsk. What's the matter, wrong divider, can't answer a simple question?

What saith the scripture as to whom and how the righteousness of God by the faith of Jesus Christ is upon?

beloved57
November 3rd, 2015, 08:27 AM
I do quote scripture and believe it. You change it. tsk.tsk. What's the matter, wrong divider, can't answer a simple question?

You quote it but don't believe it!

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 12:32 AM
If God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (and He was 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV, 2 Corinthians 5:20 KJV): then sin/sins is not the issue, but your unbelief is!

No one can enter God's grace unless they have faith that Jesus' blood washes away the sins they repented of doing.

See Romans 5:2.

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 03:39 AM
No one can enter God's grace unless they have faith that Jesus' blood washes away the sins they repented of doing.

See Romans 5:2.

False Teaching, those Christ died for are reconciled to God by Grace while they are enemies and unbelievers ! Rom 5:10 !

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 11:28 AM
False Teaching, those Christ died for are reconciled to God by Grace while they are enemies and unbelievers ! Rom 5:10 !

The Gentiles were called enemies because they were not circumcised.

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,


That means the Gentiles did not have to get circumcised before Jesus would save them.

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 11:58 AM
The Gentiles were called enemies because they were not circumcised.

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,


That means the Gentiles did not have to get circumcised before Jesus would save them.

Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death alone,while they are enemies and unbelievers,hating God ! Rom 5:10 !

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 12:31 PM
Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death alone,while they are enemies and unbelievers,hating God ! Rom 5:10 !

No one is reconciled to God until they have living faith.

See Romans 5:2.

The Gentiles were called enemies because they were not circumcised.

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,


That means the Gentiles did not have to get circumcised before Jesus would save them.

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 12:37 PM
No one is reconciled to God until they have living faith.

See Romans 5:2.

The Gentiles were called enemies because they were not circumcised.

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,


That means the Gentiles did not have to get circumcised before Jesus would save them.

False teaching, there's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

heir
November 15th, 2015, 07:27 PM
No one can enter God's grace unless they have faith that Jesus' blood washes away the sins they repented of doing.

See Romans 5:2.Sorry to see that you didn't get saved during your time out. It's just the same old religious, but lost GT with the little g's untruth. :wazzup:

heir
November 15th, 2015, 07:36 PM
False teaching, there's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!The world was reconciled (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) whether they believe it or not as Christ, Who knew no sin, was made to be sin for us that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV)! It is clear from Paul, that the righteousness of God which is by the faith of Jesus Christ is UNTO ALL (that's the world of 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) and UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). When did you believe WHY Christ died (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) as the power of God to save you (Romans 1:16 KJV)?

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 10:45 PM
The world was reconciled (2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) whether they believe it or not as Christ, Who knew no sin, was made to be sin for us that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV)! It is clear from Paul, that the righteousness of God which is by the faith of Jesus Christ is UNTO ALL (that's the world of 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV) and UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). When did you believe WHY Christ died (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) as the power of God to save you (Romans 1:16 KJV)?

Every one was not reconciled to God by Christ death because many are under God's condemnation and wrath Jn3:18,36 so you are a false witness !

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 11:07 PM
Sorry to see that you didn't get saved during your time out. It's just the same old religious, but lost GT with the little g's untruth. :wazzup:

Jesus shed his blood on the cross to wash away our sins. How do you ever get that repenting of those sins are not required?

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 11:09 PM
False teaching, there's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

The scriptures plainly tell us that we do not have access to the grace of salvation unless we have faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 11:30 PM
The scriptures plainly tell us that we do not have access to the grace of salvation unless we have faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.

False teaching !

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 11:38 PM
False teaching !

I gave you scripture and you call it false teaching.

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 11:48 PM
I gave you scripture and you call it false teaching.



False teaching, there's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

God's Truth
November 15th, 2015, 11:53 PM
False teaching, there's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

Just read it and believe what it says.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.

beloved57
November 15th, 2015, 11:55 PM
Just read it and believe what it says.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.



There's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

God's Truth
November 16th, 2015, 12:06 AM
There's no scripture that says nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

We have access by living faith, and that is faith with obedience, because faith without obedience is dead. See James 2:14, 17, 20, and 22.

2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.



The Apostles had the message of reconciliation.

Faith come from hearing.

We must have faith to access God's grace of reconciliation.

beloved57
November 16th, 2015, 12:09 AM
We have access by living faith, and that is faith with obedience, because faith without obedience is dead. See James 2:14, 17, 20, and 22.

2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.



The Apostles had the message of reconciliation.

Faith come from hearing.

We must have faith to access God's grace of reconciliation.

You have not given a scripture which stated:

Nobody is reconciled to God until they have living faith, that is a lie ! Rom 5:10!

heir
November 16th, 2015, 12:18 AM
You two are a couple of :trolls: