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republicanchick
October 26th, 2015, 04:33 PM
God created evil..


This is a bizarre concept, that God created evil but that is actually a word for word quote from the Bible (aka Word of God)... wish I could remember where it is... Old Testament

Well, when you think about it, how can it be any other way? There is much evil in the world.. no Newsflash! there...

so WHY does God allow evil?

Well, He has his reasons..

the greatest evil was God dying on a cross... (Jesus is God... "If you have seen Me, you seen the Father") and yet look @ all the good that came from it...


:FrankiE::Brandon:

The Church He founded..



:FrankiE:




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Desert Reign
October 26th, 2015, 04:47 PM
Why do you get others to do your dirty work for you? Go look it up yourself and don't waste our time.

glorydaz
October 26th, 2015, 05:19 PM
Why do you get others to do your dirty work for you? Go look it up yourself and don't waste our time.

:first:

Desert Reign
October 26th, 2015, 05:51 PM
:first:

Thanks. She claims the Bible is the 'Word of God' but clearly she doesn't read it. And in any case the Bible doesn't claim itself to be the 'Word of God'. It reserves that title for Jesus, the Lord. Which doubly proves she is just a joyrider.

disturbo
October 26th, 2015, 05:54 PM
God created evil..


This is a bizarre concept, that God created evil but that is actually a word for word quote from the Bible (aka Word of God)... wish I could remember where it is... Old Testament

Well, when you think about it, how can it be any other way? There is much evil in the world.. no Newsflash! there...

so WHY does God allow evil?

Well, He has his reasons..

the greatest evil was God dying on a cross... (Jesus is God... "If you have seen Me, you seen the Father") and yet look @ all the good that came from it...


:FrankiE::Brandon:

The Church He founded..



:FrankiE:




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Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

patrick jane
October 26th, 2015, 05:57 PM
God created evil..


This is a bizarre concept, that God created evil but that is actually a word for word quote from the Bible (aka Word of God)... wish I could remember where it is... Old Testament

Well, when you think about it, how can it be any other way? There is much evil in the world.. no Newsflash! there...

so WHY does God allow evil?

Well, He has his reasons..

the greatest evil was God dying on a cross... (Jesus is God... "If you have seen Me, you seen the Father") and yet look @ all the good that came from it...




Calamity, not evil. God didn't create evil

Isaiah 45:7 - Isaiah 45:7 NIV-

Jonahdog
October 26th, 2015, 07:32 PM
Calamity, not evil. God didn't create evil

Isaiah 45:7 - Isaiah 45:7 NIV-

Calamity is good? Or bad? Or do you have your own special definition of evil? Or perhaps it depends on your particular favorite translation?

OCTOBER23
October 26th, 2015, 08:58 PM
REPUB GIRL,

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 I form <03335> (8802) the light <0216>, and create <01254> (8802) darkness <02822>: I make <06213> (8802) peace <07965>, and create <01254> (8802) evil <07451>: I the LORD <03068> do <06213> (8802) all these things.
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DOWNLOAD - ONLINE BIBLE FREE -

It has Strong's Concordance on it .

I use it every day.
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Bradley D
October 26th, 2015, 11:38 PM
God creates not moral evil. But allows bad things to come upon human kind, because of their turning away from God. Therefore all suffer.

"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous" (Matthew 5:45).

Totton Linnet
October 27th, 2015, 12:11 AM
God created evil but He did not create man for evil or to know evil, He created man only for good...He placed him in the garden of great beauty and abundance.

...but man himself chose evil over good.

chair
October 27th, 2015, 01:15 AM
Calamity, not evil. God didn't create evil

Isaiah 45:7 - Isaiah 45:7 NIV-

You need to learn Hebrew.

Desert Reign
October 27th, 2015, 04:03 AM
Calamity is good? Or bad? Or do you have your own special definition of evil? Or perhaps it depends on your particular favorite translation?

Yes, exactly. But this thread was a waste of everyone's time because there is another thread in progress on exactly the same subject if the thread initiator had bothered to spend 5 minutes looking.

Jonahdog
October 27th, 2015, 04:03 AM
You need to learn Hebrew.

what does the Hebrew word mean?

chair
October 27th, 2015, 06:14 AM
what does the Hebrew word mean?

In Hebrew the word used is "Ra", which generally means "evil".

One must be careful when comparing the use of a word to the use in modern Hebrew. But in this case, it is the same word as used in"the tree of the knowledge of good and evil", so I think it is pretty clear-cut.

SaulToPaul
October 27th, 2015, 06:32 AM
the greatest evil was God dying on a cross...

Telling comment.

disturbo
October 27th, 2015, 06:33 AM
Patrick Jane said,


Calamity, not evil. God didn't create evil


REPUB GIRL,

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7 I form <03335> (8802) the light <0216>, and create <01254> (8802) darkness <02822>: I make <06213> (8802) peace <07965>, and create <01254> (8802) evil <07451>: I the LORD <03068> do <06213> (8802) all these things.
-----------------------------------------
DOWNLOAD - ONLINE BIBLE FREE -

It has Strong's Concordance on it .

I use it every day.
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So do I...
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H7451&t=KJV
EVIL

bad, evil
bad, disagreeable, malignant
bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)
evil, displeasing
bad (of its kind - land, water, etc)
bad (of value)
worse than, worst (comparison)
sad, unhappy
evil (hurtful)
bad, unkind (vicious in disposition)
bad, evil, wicked (ethically)
in general, of persons, of thoughts
deeds, actions
n m
evil, distress, misery, injury, calamity
evil, distress, adversity
evil, injury, wrong
evil (ethical)
n f
evil, misery, distress, injury
evil, misery, distress
evil, injury, wrong
evil (ethical)

SaulToPaul
October 27th, 2015, 10:19 AM
the greatest evil was God dying on a cross...

Do you not believe it pleased the Father to bruise his Son?

Tambora
October 27th, 2015, 10:27 AM
Do you not believe it pleased the Father to bruise his Son?Isaiah 53:10

Hawkins
October 27th, 2015, 10:36 AM
God created evil..


This is a bizarre concept, that God created evil but that is actually a word for word quote from the Bible (aka Word of God)... wish I could remember where it is... Old Testament

Well, when you think about it, how can it be any other way? There is much evil in the world.. no Newsflash! there...

so WHY does God allow evil?

Well, He has his reasons..

the greatest evil was God dying on a cross... (Jesus is God... "If you have seen Me, you seen the Father") and yet look @ all the good that came from it...


:FrankiE::Brandon:

The Church He founded..



:FrankiE:




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Earth is a wilderness. It is a place where Satan is called god of this earth.

Here God's sheep are scattered. This is a place for the sheep to be shown as God's sheep and for the wolves to be shown as wolves such that God will destroy them once and for all.

Earth is no paradise. It is a place outside God's realm. Any place outside God's realm is supposed to be hell-like. Earth is a better place than hell because God still has a job to be done here.

patrick jane
October 27th, 2015, 10:39 AM
Calamity is good? Or bad? Or do you have your own special definition of evil? Or perhaps it depends on your particular favorite translation?

You just like the idea that God offers harsh punishment in the OT, and you take it personal. You don't believe in God anyway, so evil came through evolution ?

SaulToPaul
October 27th, 2015, 10:58 AM
Isaiah 53:10

Indeed, I believe that repubchick has not got the foggiest idea of what actually happened on the cross.

OCTOBER23
October 27th, 2015, 06:10 PM
Well what do you know ?

Posters actually answering Republic Chick with Scriptures

and thinking that she would or could understand them

without the Priest having to Twist them for her.

Jonahdog
October 27th, 2015, 06:37 PM
You just like the idea that God offers harsh punishment in the OT, and you take it personal. You don't believe in God anyway, so evil came through evolution ?

No, I don't take it personally. I am just amazed that fundamentalists seem to be able to ignore the pain and suffering done either by the Bible's god or on his behalf, in both Old Testament times and thereafter.

Huckleberry
October 27th, 2015, 06:59 PM
No, I don't take it personally. I am just amazed that fundamentalists seem to be able to ignore the pain and suffering done either by the Bible's god or on his behalf, in both Old Testament times and thereafter.
Ignore? Or offer perspectives on that you don't like?

I honestly can't think of any pain or suffering caused by God or done on His behalf that I ignore. Maybe I'm just amazing at ignoring things. :idunno:

Jonahdog
October 28th, 2015, 03:37 AM
Ignore? Or offer perspectives on that you don't like?

I honestly can't think of any pain or suffering caused by God or done on His behalf that I ignore. Maybe I'm just amazing at ignoring things. :idunno:

Perhaps "ignore" was not the right word. "Rationalize" might be better