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Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 05:12 PM
This is critically importance. The reality on the surface of earth is not the same. It changed seriously at the end of September, 2015, through a new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

The Old Age of Pisces, which was anchored on physicality, has ended. The New Age of Aquarius, which is anchored on Spirituality, has dawned.

If one remains 'entangled' with the Old reality (which is Peter oriented) one will be teleported out of here.

If one is not 'entangled' with the new reality (which is Paul oriented) one will be 'teleported' out of here.

We are in the fullness of time. Now children of God (i.e. obedient spiritually aware people/Paul's people) will inherit earth without children of the flesh (i.e. spiritually dead people/Peter's people).

Serious separation which will see billions simply disappearing off the surface of earth through 'teleporting'. This is pending.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
What to do to be saved and delivered? The answer is here:

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

*'Teleportation', 'entanglement', 'black hole portal' and 'dimensions' are terms which describe valid scientific events, situations and/or circumstances in Quantum physics.

Ask Mr. Religion
October 12th, 2015, 05:27 PM
Another duplicate of this:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4482948#post4482948

We read you the first time. :AMR:

AMR

musterion
October 12th, 2015, 05:34 PM
This is critically importance. The reality on the surface of earth is not the same. It changed seriously at the end of September, 2015, through a new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

The Old Age of Pisces, which was anchored on physicality, has ended. The New Age of Aquarius, which is anchored on Spirituality, has dawned.

If one remains 'entangled' with the Old reality (which is Peter oriented) one will be teleported out of here.

If one is not 'entangled' with the new reality (which is Paul oriented) one will be 'teleported' out of here.

We are in the fullness of time. Now children of God (i.e. obedient spiritually aware people/Paul's people) will inherit earth without children of the flesh (i.e. spiritually dead people/Peter's people).

Serious separation which will see billions simply disappearing off the surface of earth through 'teleporting'. This is pending.



Music for the Age of Aquarius. (http://www.myinstants.com/instant/fart-button/)

patrick jane
October 12th, 2015, 05:37 PM
I'm growing my hair, I'm too busy.

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 05:47 PM
Another duplicate of this:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4482948#post4482948

We read you the first time. :AMR:

AMR

Thank you for reading and for letting me know.

Actually it is different in some ways. I do believe that my latest write is clearer and more concise.

Is it not very desirable to reach more and more people?

I am also trying to get readership across the wider internet.

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 05:52 PM
I'm growing my hair, I'm too busy.

Some people seem to believe that growing one's hair is good for Spirituality and the New Spiritual Age which is dominating the surface of earth, at this time.

Longer hair might operate as extended antennas? Is it so? Do you believe the alien theory and contacting aliens?

'Rogaine'?

You should not wait. Come on board now. Come bald head if so be it.

The latest neuron scientific research confirm that spirituality is better served by growing one's brain, i.e. by adding new clusters of brain neurons to the area related to enlightenment in the brain. Interestingly . . . this is accomplished through regular meditation.

May be you should give up 'Rogaine' and concentrate on meditation, i.e. search your heart to discern precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for say and do and then simply know, pray for, say and do, just that . . . every moment of every day.

What you think? (I know that you are a 'thinking' person.)

Live and learn, every day, my brother.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Most do not believe the above revelation.

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 05:55 PM
Music for the Age of Aquarius. (http://www.myinstants.com/instant/fart-button/)

A small version of 'teleportation' through a 'black hole'?

It is said that Napoleon Bonaparte let-go 40 of those and 'blow up a donkey cart'.


http://www.history.com/topics/napoleon

Plenty, 'all kind of things' out there. All kinds of people 'pushing their own 'self serving' ideas and agendas.

Some are even pushing that Paul displace Peter and created the current havoc among the billions called to Christianity. They are simply playing 'smart' with foolishness. They like and want to keep the rule of Peter on earth. They will try anything.

It is so very clearly obvious that Peter displaced, undermined, denied, blasphemed and relegated Paul and his commission and created the current havoc and serious catastrophe among the billions called to Christianity.

I try to stick with the KJV N.T., it makes great sense.

Ask Mr. Religion
October 12th, 2015, 05:57 PM
Thank you for reading and for letting me know.

Actually it is different in some ways. I do believe that my latest write is clearer and more concise.

Is it not very desirable to reach more and more people?

I am also trying to get readership across the wider internet.

Then you should care and feed one thread at a time. Now you have two on essentially the same topic that requires your diligence and will result in much duplication of effort. Why not drive the topic to ground in one thread then consider if yet another on the same topic makes any real sense? Just a suggestion.

AMR

Ktoyou
October 12th, 2015, 07:00 PM
This is critically importance. The reality on the surface of earth is not the same. It changed seriously at the end of September, 2015, through a new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

The Old Age of Pisces, which was anchored on physicality, has ended. The New Age of Aquarius, which is anchored on Spirituality, has dawned.

If one remains 'entangled' with the Old reality (which is Peter oriented) one will be teleported out of here.

If one is not 'entangled' with the new reality (which is Paul oriented) one will be 'teleported' out of here.



You, 'entangled' brain, might be 'teleported' out of here. :kookoo:

Zeke
October 12th, 2015, 07:15 PM
Tired of fish? need some pure waters see the man with the water pitcher Luke 22:10-12, that house is within Luke 17:20-21, John 14:23.

Maybe Denny's would be the gathering place for the literal readers of the letter 2 Cor 3:6, historic theology the biggest waist of spiritual time next to voting.

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 07:38 PM
patrick jane,

Think this make sense:

1967 smash-hit musical Hair, with its opening song Aquarius, by a musical group called the 5th Dimension. The song opened with the lines:

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 07:50 PM
Then you should care and feed one thread at a time. Now you have two on essentially the same topic that requires your diligence and will result in much duplication of effort. Why not drive the topic to ground in one thread then consider if yet another on the same topic makes any real sense? Just a suggestion.

AMR

My threads and posts are always totally attended too, until completion.

People are drawn to read threads and posts, by captions and tag lines. This seems to be the way of life.

By changing the tag line and/or captions and also rewriting the post to suit the new tag line and/or caption, I am trying to attract new, different and more readers.

The message is not long or varied. It is rather simple and straightforward. May be too simple and straightforward. It was always there clearly and literally in the KJV N.T. for all of the past 2000 odd years. Also it is just a small section of the KJV N.T.

However it must be presented differently to reach different people, according to the angle of their past conditioning and particular expectation.

The aim is simply to go pass their subconscious mind and actually get their attention.

The spiritually dead are defined by their strong anchor on their subconscious mind. Their subconscious mind is their 'parroting' mind. This is their default conditioned mind. This mind totally obliterate and waxed gross over their two other minds.

These two other higher minds are their discriminating mind and their truth based expanded mind.

Getting the spiritually dead to transcend their subconscious mind is spiritual awakening. (This is the first aim of meditation).

This can also be done when I actually reach people through my threads and posts. However, this requires cunning innovation of writing and rewriting and re-captioning and re-tagging. It is a labor of love and patience. However it can save and deliver readers.

Indeed my mission is to awaken as many as possible out of their subconscious mind and onto their discriminating mind and then on to their truth based expanded mind. Only then can they be able to save and deliver themselves.

Fact is one can be saved and delivered only by one's own self. However awakening one to one's truth based expanded mind gives one the tool to liberate, save and deliver one self.

This is the passage.

dialm
October 13th, 2015, 02:17 AM
This Peter and Paul thing Gurucam. Are you saying that the universal harmonics are no longer aligned?

Is Paul now the Big Dipper?

Has Peter become a falling star?

I await your forecast.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 04:38 AM
This Peter and Paul thing Gurucam. Are you saying that the universal harmonics are no longer aligned?

Is Paul now the Big Dipper?

Has Peter become a falling star?

I await your forecast.
What I am posting is that the ''harmonics', on the surface of earth at this time, support Paul (i.e. the commission of Paul) and dismiss and relegate Peter (i.e. the commission of Peter).

What do you mean by 'universal harmonics', 'Big Dipper' and 'falling star'? I can guess, conclude and/or research a meaning for each, however those are bound to be different from your meaning.

Look at harmony in the following way: The Lord Jesus walked physically on a section of the surface of earth, among a specific set people, 2000 odd years ago.

His aim, back then, was to be 'the life' in Christ. That is, his aim was to physically demonstrate 'the life in Christ', i.e. the Christian life style.

When he did that, they crucified him and ran him out from among them and from that section of the surface of earth, at that point in time.

What was the harmony? Harmony is that state which supports a particular idea and status-quo. Clearly harmony did not exist to support a Christian life style.

What then is 'universal harmony'? There seems to be different harmonies supporting different things at different places at different times.

If there is universal harmony it would exist at dimensions well beyond our preoccupation here.

The prevailing reality on the surface of earth, at that time 2000 odd years ago, among those people was not in harmony with Christianity and a Christian life style.

However the Lord did not view this to be the end. 'The fullness of time' was mentioned and spoken about. This was some future time when the required harmony will exist on earth, not only to support Christianity but to enable Christianity to dominate and rule on earth, among the descendants of those people.

The alignment of planets and other heavenly bodies perpetually exercise control on earth and on the surface of earth. They are the ones controlling the dominating reality/consciousness on the surface of earth. There are 'worlds' within the earth and on the surface of earth. We who are alive on earth are on the surface of earth.

Up until recently and for the past 2000 years, the alignment of planets and other heavenly bodies which controlled earth, sustained a particular harmony on earth which did not support Christianity, among those people.

Recently, these planets and other heavenly body achieved a new alignment. Their continuing control of earth, created a new 'harmony' on earth. This new harmony strongly supports actual Christian life style on earth.

In fact now, if one is in any way linked to ideas and teachings of the Lord Jesus and/or the Old Testament, one must be authentically Christian to be able to live on earth. The sad fact is that the very great majority of people who believe that they are Christians are not Christians.

see next post for continuation.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 04:39 AM
continued from the previous post

If you take the Lord Jesus Christ to be the perfect human example of a life in Christ. And indeed this was the clear intention.

Then the Lord, at that time, among those people, on that section of the surface of earth, demonstrated 'the life' of one 'in Christ. He demonstrated the Christian life style. That is, he demonstrated how every human must live (using miracles and all) on the surface of earth in order to be Christian.

However those people, in that area of earth's surface, at that point in time, crucified and removed him from among them and from that area of earth's surface, at that point in time. They clearly preferred the Old Mosaic and similar other preexisting life styles.

In fact at the end of the Lord's effort and visit, only Paul had any actual experiential conception of the life which the Lord exemplified and demonstrated. Every one has remained the same.

Fact is, so far, for the past 2000 years, these things had not changed significantly. Christianity was not here, yet, far less to be ruling and dominating.

For the past 2000 years the people and the reality on the surface of earth was not in 'harmony' with a life in Christ and/or Christianity. The reason for this was that the alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies did not change enough so as to seriously alter the 'harmonics' on the surface of earth.

This meant that for the past 2000 odd years, the alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies sustained harmonics on earth which supported the Old Mosaic system, as it was 2000 odd year ago and also all people of that awareness or unawareness and disposition.

Peter's commission was simply a re-hatch of the Old Mosaic system (slightly modified). This is why Peter and his commission and ideologies remained relevant and dominated and ruled over most every thing during the past 2000 odd years.

In fact Peter's ideologies, which were not at all Christianity usurped and dominated 'Christianity' everywhere. It is there that billions were called to Christianity and told that were Christians. They were simply misled.

This means that those billions who perceived and now perceive themselves to be Christians were and are simply fooling themselves. At best they are aspiring to be Christians but in the wrong place. At best, they were simply called to be Christians but not chosen.

What then is the Christian lifestyle?

the answer follow in the next post

dialm
October 13th, 2015, 07:01 AM
How do we move from dead to life Harmonics? Is it by denying the followers of Perer? This seems to be a first step toward planet revival.

Interplanner
October 13th, 2015, 07:07 AM
This is critically importance. The reality on the surface of earth is not the same. It changed seriously at the end of September, 2015, through a new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

The Old Age of Pisces, which was anchored on physicality, has ended. The New Age of Aquarius, which is anchored on Spirituality, has dawned.

If one remains 'entangled' with the Old reality (which is Peter oriented) one will be teleported out of here.

If one is not 'entangled' with the new reality (which is Paul oriented) one will be 'teleported' out of here.

We are in the fullness of time. Now children of God (i.e. obedient spiritually aware people/Paul's people) will inherit earth without children of the flesh (i.e. spiritually dead people/Peter's people).

Serious separation which will see billions simply disappearing off the surface of earth through 'teleporting'. This is pending.

What to do to be saved and delivered? The answer is here:





Looks like an astrologist has taken up the cause of the rapture.

Let's set a few things straight. The essential message of the NT is Rom 3:21-31. God has paid an early visit to earth about the question of judgement. He has given himself as an atonement for our sins. He has proven the effectiveness of this act by the resurrection of Christ. There is now righteousness for all who believe on Christ's work, that pays their debt of sin.

God will still judge the earth--that's still future. But the terms will be the same as the above message indicates; it is called the Gospel. Because we can access his saving righteousness ahead of time.

There are no guarantees anywhere in the NT that those who believe will be rescued or prevented from harm, suffering, torture, if that's what you mean. But they will be justified from their sins on that day, and they will enjoy eternal fellowship with God.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 07:44 AM
The Christian life style is based on the commission which was rendered onto Paul. This is a spiritual life style. This commission and life style was denied, persecuted,blasphemed and relegated by Peter & Co.

Peter & Co. succeeded because the 'harmonics' on the surface of earth supported them, their commission, their unawareness and their ideologies. The harmonics on the surface of earth were similar to the harmonics within the depths of earth. Hell was both in the depths of earth as well as on the surface of earth for those people and only for those people.

Peter's commission was to save the spirits of his spiritually dead charges so that they will be relevant in the day of the Lord Jesus. The day of the Lord Jesus is that day when the age of the Lord descends on earth. This is that day when the Spirit of the Lord Jesus can rule on earth. This day is at hand. It was brought about by the new recent alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

This will seriously impact the following people
1.) traditional Christians,
2.) Peter & Co.,
3.) their followers and
4.) all people who esteem the Old Testament in any way.
. . . these are billions of people.

It seems that the opportunity for all those people to become actual Christians has ended. This is described as 'the fullness of time. The fullness of time is at hand.

This has happened because the new alignment of the planets and other heavenly body has created and now sustains a new 'harmony' (i.e. pervading reality) on the surface of the earth.

This new harmony (the critical factor) requires that from the above 4 grouping of people, only those who have become authentic Christians can be and will be on earth.

The very sad prediction by the Lord Jesus was that, many will be called (to Christianity) but few will be chosen. The Lord also confirmed that "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it".

It is strange that no one asked why I keep saying "all people who esteemed Peter and/or the Old Testament, in any way"

The Lord Jesus came to introduce spirituality to all people who esteemed the Old Testament in any way. The Lord Jesus was simply trying to bring their essentially physically based 'religions up to par with already existing Spirit based Old traditions.

They rejected, crucified and relegated Him and all the spiritual dimension of his efforts. They remained with their originally 'spiritually dead' tradition. They therefore also remained 'spiritually dead' and now not at all qualified (chosen) for the New Age on earth.

Fact is there are many Old traditions which have always been spirit based. People from and in these traditions are inherently spiritually aware and relevant to the current 'harmonics', on the surface of earth, in this new spiritual age of Aquarius. In fact, theirs is the spiritual Age of Aquarius.

truthjourney
October 13th, 2015, 07:47 AM
Do you believe the alien theory and contacting aliens?
What does contacting aliens have to do with what you're talking about, and hair or no hair?

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 08:48 AM
What does contacting aliens have to do with what you're talking about, and hair or no hair?

Every idea and/or thing is connected to every idea or thing else.

At any event some countries call the citizens of another country, aliens.

People who are not entangled with the 'harmonics' on the surface of earth are aliens as far as the surface of earth goes.

People who are not spiritually aware are now aliens as far as the surface of earth is concerned. This is so even if they have lived here since their birth on earth. People who are not spiritually aware cannot be born here any more.

In the same manner as some countries deny visas to some people of other countries, some aliens will be denied visas to the surface of earth (kind of poetic justice).

This will affect the following people:

All the people who have been buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies, for the past 2000 odd years, according to the tradition of Peter & Co.

They are now no longer in any way 'entangled' with the new spirit reality on the surface of earth.

They cannot come back to earth, nor will they be coming back to earth.

The Lord may have made a promise that he will return to earth in a human physical body, so as to shout out to them to rise out of the earth. This promise was subject to them not blaspheming the Holy Ghost. Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not forgivable at any place or time.

Fact is, they undermined-ed and blasphemed the Holy Ghost with a vengeance, while they lived on earth. They did this by denying, persecuting, blaspheming and undermining Paul and his spirit and Spirit based commission, especially so as to empower Peter's physically based commission.

This removed any possibility of the Lord returning in a physical body to help them out of the depths of earth. Their sad end is fairly predictable.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 09:00 AM
Let's set a few things straight.

Indeed, but not quite so. Fact is one must get all things straight and very absolutely straight indeed.


Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
It ain't going to be a nice event. From among the billions called to Christianity, only a few will be chosen.

Those who get only a few things straight will certainly be among the 'many' who err and are not chosen.

How do you stand brother?

Are your views absolutely conformed to the totality of the KJV N.T. or do you make-up your own thing as you go along. Do you take a revelation here and throw away another one there, so as to get support for your view?

How serious and successful, are you with respect to achieving a holistic, coherent and all inclusive grasp of all the revelations in the KJV N.T.?

Or are you simply committed to setting only a few things straight?

Don't you know that you were permitted to be brought forth to earth only by the grace of the moon. The moon enabled your father and mother to provide you with a human physical body.

Are you not aware of the fact that the planets and other heavenly bodies controls and determines every thing on earth?

The Spiritual Age of Aquarius has dawned on earth's surface. This has occurred totally through new alignments of the planets and other heavenly bodies. Now the 'not chosen' masses are living on the surface of earth but with an awareness befitting the depths of earth. They are entangled with the depths of earth. They will inevitably be teleported there, if they are not transformed.

This should be your 'one pointed' focus.

Sherman
October 13th, 2015, 09:44 AM
Please do not open any additional threads on this topic. One should suffice. I locked the other.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 12:31 PM
How do we move from dead to life Harmonics? Is it by denying the followers of Perer? This seems to be a first step toward planet revival.

Bless your soul for asking the all important question.

The question is how can one become relevant for the new age of Aquarius on the surface of earth.

Now you are getting to my ministry. In fact, Dialm you have led me to start my commission on this forum. My ministry is anchored on things 'not see' and spiritual. It could surface only now that the new Spiritual age of Aquarius is on the surface of earth.

Bear with me if I am not clear and coherent enough. This is new territory, for me, on this forum. I can deliver everything, i.e. all information.

The path:

The first requirement is for one to stop being spiritually dead and become spiritually aware.

This is simply the act of awakening to one's own heart or spirit. This is described as being 'born again' i.e. being born a second time, this time of spirit. This is not salvation and deliverance. This is simply to get the first fruit of the Holy Spirit.

There are many ways to explain this transformation. Here is one way:

A spiritually dead person operated only through his left side brain hemisphere. A spiritually aware person operates through both left and right side brain hemispheres.

Therefore, on this level, becoming spiritually aware means that one has brought one's right side brain hemisphere on line and into functionality.

One's right side brain hemisphere hold one's truth and expansive mind. By operating through this mind one actually discern thing as they truly are. One gets bigger and more expanded insights, subjectively. This enlivens and expands one's discriminating mind.

Then the absolute folly and incompleteness of one's subconscious mind become known and recognized. Also the absolute folly and incompleteness of the ideas and beliefs which are the fabric of one's subconscious mind is clearly, subjectively and experimentally realized.

This is what leads naturally and spontaneously to denying Peter and his ideas. Also one realizes the folly state of those who discern wisdom in any thing to do with Peter & Co.. Such people are like Peter & Co. and therefore, in a spiritually dead state. They are all entangled and all going the same place, if they do not awaken.

Fact is the ideas of Peter & Co. including their commission operates only at the level of one's subconscious mind. Therefore these ideas strives only among the spiritually dead.

The nature of the subconscious mind is like a closed circle. It is a default mind. It is one's parroting mind. It is one's lazy man mind. One can operate from this mind for all one's life and never have to think out things on one's own.

The spiritually dead are actually dead to their other two minds. These are their discriminating mind and their truth based expanded mind.

The sub conscious mind receives and store conditioning from Peter & Co. and all religions. This mind also receives and store formal education etc. These are all conditioning. These ideas are not one's subject wisdom. These are all the ideas of others conditioned into one's subconscious mind.

Once one buys into these conditioning, these are stored in one's subconscious mind and simply regurgitated or parroted out as responses to any other idea that might be presented to them. One becomes a poppet under servitude, to the one who conditions one. This is described as selling one's soul to Satan.

These conditioning runs a person's life in a closed circle or automatic unconscious default mode, i.e. like a default computer program.

The spiritually dead operates totally from this mind to the exclusion of their discriminating mind and their truth based expanded mind. Awakening a spiritually dead person is essentially to have him transcend his subconscious mind.

The aim is to move one from being spiritually dead to being spiritually awaken. This will awaken one to one's higher mind. This will make one subjectively more informed and smarter.

Then one will, on one's own, detect and discern the folly and/or Satanic ways of Peter & Co. which consumed one when one operated only through one's lower or subconscious mind.

This is what lead to one denying and blaspheming the ideas and church of Peter & Co. and to fully recognize and appreciate the absolute beauty and wisdom of the commission that was rendered onto Paul.

From among those people, 2000 odd years ago, Paul was the first and only one to go trough this transformation and achieve these realizations.

The way that I teach on this forum is a path to transforming a spiritually dead person to spiritual awareness. My approach also shares truth in an intellectually discernible manner.

This is the simplest, most laborious and least effective way of attempting to transform people from being spiritually dead to being spiritually awaken and spiritually aware.

There are other more effective ways. These involves meditation. However these are useful only to those who are aware of the need to be transformed and are actually seeking to be transformed.

Most people in traditional Christianity are content in their spiritually dead state. They are oblivious to the existence of any other state. They are simply lost and consumed in their subconscious mind.

My approach on this forum so far has been to reach at least a few of these people through an intellectual pathway, while posting truth as confirmed literally in the KJV N.T..

For you I will recommend a meditation practice. The details of which I can offer and provide.

This will be a very accelerated path. Because the surface of the earth is in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, progress will be exponential. The slightest effort will bring quick and bountiful transformation. Indeed the last shall be first and the first last.

In fact by simply dwelling on this post one would accelerate one's transformation. Indeed now that the Spiritual Age of Aquarius in ruling the surface of earth more and more people will get the light of my post faster and easier. This will lead to their rapid transformation, at this time.. This is itself, meditation of sorts.

In fact, click on the following and dwell on it. Dissect it, investigate it, ask question about it. It will take you to spiritual awareness, freedom, liberation and relevance on earth in the current Spiritual Age of Aquarius on earth. This can do it all.

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.
This is my service on this forum.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 01:37 PM
Please do not open any additional threads on this topic. One should suffice. I locked the other.

o.k. and thanks.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 01:42 PM
Dialm

Bless your soul for asking the all important question.

The question is how can one become relevant for the new age of Aquarius on the surface of earth.

I just realize the short answer to your question. It is the following:

Click on the following and dwell on it. Dissect it, investigate it, ask question about it. It will take one to spiritual awareness, freedom, liberation and relevance on earth in the current Spiritual Age of Aquarius on earth. This can do it all.

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.
This is my service on this forum.

Gurucam
October 13th, 2015, 06:26 PM
You, 'entangled' brain, might be 'teleported' out of here. :kookoo:

To be teleported out of here is not bad, once one is not entangled with Peter & Co.

The sad fact is that Peter & Co. hold and practice the idea that their charges must all be buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies.

Therefore if one is entangled with Peter & Co. one will be teleported into the depths of earth, any which way. This is the sad thing.

It is not that teleportation is a bad thing per say because:

If on the other hand, one is entangled with the Lord Jesus Christ one will inevitably be teleported to spirit heaven, like the Lord Jesus Christ.

Fact is teleportation is inevitable and unavoidable. However teleportation occurs according to one's entanglement. Therefore to who or to what one is entangled is critically important.

Now you might understand why it wiser to be entangled with Paul and his spirit and Spirit based (rising to spirit heaven) commission instead of Peter and his physical (buried in the depths of earth) commission. :)

'Entanglement' and 'teleportation' are valid scientific concepts in Quantum Physics.

'Entanglement occurs between 1.) people and people or 2.) between people and things or 3.) between people and their actions or 4.) between people and their concept of their Lord or 5.) between people and their concept of heaven or 6.) between people and places/dimensions or 7.) between people and their religious and other beliefs.

To be 'entangled' with an other person, a thing, an action, or a place means to share the same ideologies of that person, thing, action or place.

'Teleportation' is to simply disappear from one place and appear in another destination that in line with one's entanglement.

The act of being 'teleported' is the following event described in the KJV N.T.:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The things stated in this post are not imagined things. They are not theories. These are scientifically validated concepts.

dialm
October 13th, 2015, 09:53 PM
Then teleportation is like paying taxes. If the tax is not paid then we are teleported to the big house where Gideon and Company hand out bibles. Peter and Company wrote some of the bible but now deny the truth. They can do this because they pay extra tax and are teleportationed to city babble where they bless the dead and curse the living.

Gurucam
October 14th, 2015, 02:15 AM
Then teleportation is like paying taxes. If the tax is not paid then we are teleported to the big house where Gideon and Company hand out bibles.

Teleportation is the magic of the creation. It is not taxes or payment of taxes.

It is simply nature's way of magically matching one up with what one has chosen to believe. What one chooses to believe is one's entanglement.

1.) Therefore if one chooses to believe that when he dies he will be buried in the earth with his dead physical body, to wait indefinitely, then so be it.

The matrix of the creation will let him have his way. When he dies, he and his spirit body will remain with his physical body. Then when his peers bury his dead body in the earth, he and his spirit body will also be buried in the earth. There will be no teleportation. Actually, no teleporting will be necessary in order to expedite the belief of this person.

2.) However if another person chooses to believe that, because he is a Christian and therefore he differs in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, except that Jesus is Lord of all. Then when he dies, he and his spirit body will be separated out of his physical body. This would enable things of earth to return to earth and things of heaven to return to heaven.

Then his peers will bury or cremate (only) his physical body (i.e. they will render render "things of Cesar to Cesar"). However he and his spirit will be teleported to spirit heaven, in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like an angel in heaven (so rendering "things of heaven to heaven").

1 Corinthians: 12 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man (the natural man or natural body) is of the earth, earthy: the second man (the inward man or spirit body) is the Lord from heaven.

Fact is the creation is always conspiring to give each human what he believes.

Teleporting is simply a tool of the creation which enables and expedites those more complicated (trans-dimension) human beliefs (like going to spirit heaven).

Teleporting is neither good nor bad. It is like your car or your boat or your airplane. It is there simply to transport you, it does not have a good or bad intent. It does not enforce it's will on you. In fact it has no will. It exist only to serve your will on your terms and your ideas.

The KJV N.T. is not contaminated. The handing out of the KJV N.T. by Gideon and Company is really good works. In fact my KJV N.T. is from 'Gideon and Company. I thank them.

Gurucam
October 14th, 2015, 04:16 AM
Another long write, however these things are so very important. I will not write anything more for a few weeks. I hope you guys read this in the mean time.


Peter and Company wrote some of the bible but now deny the truth. They can do this because they pay extra tax and are teleportationed to city babble where they bless the dead and curse the living.
Peter & Co. was and is not unlike billions of people on earth at this time. To deny and persecute Peter & Co. is to deny and persecute one self. How smart is that?

Peter & Co. were very relevant and (divinely) needed on earth for the past 2000 odd years.

Also the KJV N.T. is not contaminated by Peter & Co. or anyone else. It is very reliable. It can stand alone and serve its very divine purpose.

Clearly Peter & Co. had a Satanic agenda. (Satan is not bad) Fact is Peter was Satan, so he had to have a Satanic agenda. He could not help it. Apparently not even the Lord Jesus could have changed this fact. Clearly the Lord had to operate around this fact that, Peter, one of his disciples, was Satan.

Fact is Satan is simply a spiritually dead human being. He is not that exaggerated bad entity that he is made out to be in traditional Christianity. There are billions like people on earth. They are in all religions and all disciplines. They are called 'intellectuals'.

Satan is simply any human who is simply dead to truth. He does not know better. Therefore his ideas and actions will naturally and spontaneously not be informed and wise.

It is quite possible that in the beginning Peter knew his limitations and stayed within and kept his church within, the confines that was given to him by the Lord. This seems so because the KJV N.T. was not changed. It remained intact, until is was widely distributed and could not be thereafter changed.

The KJV N.T. remained intact and very functional as a tool for delivering one onto spiritual awareness and the path to truth, salvation and deliverance.

One cannot expect any written words or 'letters' to do more. The KJV N.T. (as it is) can and do serve the ultimate written word service.

With respect to Peter, clearly, the best that the Lord could have done was to clearly identify that Peter was Satan so that those with 'ears to hear' can hear and know this fact.

If Peter had control of or wanted to, he could have deleted that statement from the KJV N.T., where the Lord identified him to be Satan. Clearly the Lord did not despise Peter. However the Lord did recognize that Peter had natural limitation and he had to be confined so as to serve a limited and very specific service under Him.

It is under this reality, circumstance and necessity that the Lord rendered Peter his commission which was and continue to be as follows: The spiritually dead are sent to Peter so that their spirits might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus (re. 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5).

It could have been after Peter's reign that new people in his church left those well defined mooring and started to deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine Paul and Paul's spirit and Spirit based commission.

It is very possible that Peter and those immediate other popes held the original Lord given mooring of that Satanic church during which time Satan was not the exaggerated bad word that it eventually became.

Also by the time the church actually fell (i.e. went contrary to their original mandate), the KJV N.T. was already well distributed and could not be altered.

Therefore one would not want to persecute Peter or even those earlier Popes or later popes more than to point out the folly of their current ways.

They (Peter & Co.) cannot be blamed because the KJV N.T. remained intact and functional as a powerful tool for spiritual transformation and getting the path to truth. The KJV N.T. was always available to any serious seeker.

The sad fact is those who embraced the ideas in Peter's church were not by their own nature serious or any other kind of seeker. They simply wanted to be led. They did not want to think on their own or be led by their own wisdom. And indeed the church of Peter & Co. provided that service to these people. They simply gave them what they wanted for all of the past 2000 years.

If the Lord could not directly help Peter/Satan to be transformed then how could Peter/Stan be held responsible for not transforming like people under his guidance. Fact is the billions who looked up to the ideas in Peter church are responsible for their own predicament. They were that before and they were simply managed according to their existing unawareness.

In effect Peter & Co. did the only thing that was possible to do with these masses of spiritually dead people. They manage and control them so as to keep a descent level of peace and functionality on earth. Spiritually dead people can be led, mobilized, managed, fed and sheltered only as spiritually dead people (by heading).

This reasonable level of peace on earth enabled obedient spiritually aware people to come to earth and stay here. The presence of obedient spiritually aware people on earth kept the earth's surface from being totally devoid of spiritually. By their mere presence on earth they through their higher vibrations and the effect of their vibration served a high purpose on earth.

They gave a fighting chance to the billions of spiritually dead people to come onto faith spiritual awareness and Christ during their stay on earth. At any event much was not expect to result from this situation.

The church of Peter & Co. and their influence on the world must be credited for keeping peace on earth by managing and controlling the billions of spiritually dead people, during the past 2000 years. We are blessed to have them here serving that purpose. Inherently, spiritually dead people could be very barbaric, warlike and destructive.

One has to look deeper into the churches of Peter & Co. Although the services of the churches of Peter & Co. are no longer need and relevant on earth, one must not dismiss them unceremoniously. They served and one might say that they served relevantly and well. It is now time to give up the reigns and become seriously transformed.

RBBI
October 14th, 2015, 11:17 AM
I have read a few of your posts and I am saying this in the utmost concern for one who is clearly wandering in circles. Confusion comes from idolatry and therefore I don't need to know you personally to know you have many gods. Yeshua is the ONLY WAY to the Father, and you cannot have other gods and throw Him in for good measure "just in case."

I advise you to cast away all others including astrology, New Age, ect., ect., and fast and pray to be delivered of their tentacles, and seek the face of the One who died for you, in His Word and NOTHING ELSE. HaShem has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a SOUND MIND. Blessings and peace to you....

Gurucam
October 14th, 2015, 02:47 PM
I have read a few of your posts and I am saying this in the utmost concern for one who is clearly wandering in circles. Confusion comes from idolatry and therefore I don't need to know you personally to know you have many gods. Yeshua is the ONLY WAY to the Father, and you cannot have other gods and throw Him in for good measure "just in case."

I advise you to cast away all others including astrology, New Age, ect., ect., and fast and pray to be delivered of their tentacles, and seek the face of the One who died for you, in His Word and NOTHING ELSE. HaShem has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a SOUND MIND. Blessings and peace to you....
The spiritually dead (billions) are sent to Peter so that their spirits might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus (re. 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5).

The biggest contribution that Peter & Co. made to the spiritually dead who were sent to them, so that their spirits might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesu, was that:

For the past 2000 odd years, they (Peter & Co.) buried all their dead followers (billions) in the earth (i.e. hell) together with their dead physical body (with the expectation that the Lord Jesus will return in a physical body to shout out to them to rise out of the earth at some still to come day)

They are all still there inside the depth of earth in hell. And if for any reason the Lord Jesus does not return in a physical body to shout out to them to rise out of the earth, they will remain there for all eternity.

Apparently these dead guy may have blasphemed the Holy Ghost whiles they live and that is not forgivable at any place or time, so the Lord might not return to help them out. That means that they could stay in hell indefinitely.

At any event, the above is what Peter & Co. practice and continuously did and do, to their charges who number in the billion. They are the dead who bury their dead. They are not the ones who followed the Lord.

However on the other hand, some others followed the Lord. These others became Christians and therefore differed in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except the Jesus is Lord of all). When they died they were not buried in the earth with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely. They rose in three days, like the Lord Jesus Christ to be like angels in heaven.

Therefore people were split into two sets. 1.) The dead bury their dead and 2.) others followed the Lord to heaven.

One might say that the dead who were bury were goats and those who rose to heaven in three day like the Lord Jesus were sheep. The sheep were the ones who followed the Lord.

The very critical question for you (who seek to guide me) is: Which tradition did you and do you follow?

Have you, your family members, relatives and friends all been burying your dead family members, relatives and friends in the earth together with their dead physical bodies? or

Have you all become Christians and therefore differing in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except the Jesus is Lord of all). Have you all done this so that when your family, relatives and friends died, they all rise i(or will rise) in three days, like the Lord Jesus to be like angels in heaven.

The question is: Are all your dead family members, relatives and friend in hell waiting or are they already long ago in heaven?

Put another way, the question is: Are you offering and pushing hell or are you offering and pushing heaven?

Are you suggesting that the dead bury their dead in hell to wait indefinitely or are you suggesting that dead follow the Lord and rise to heaven in three days?

The Lord instructed 'let the dead bury their dead however, you follow me'. Therefore both options were always on the table. Which have you been practicing? The people want to know, before you offer your guidance.

If you answer the above question, then I can consider whether or not I will take you seriously.

RBBI
October 14th, 2015, 04:59 PM
If I understood the question, I might be disposed to answer it. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Peace

Gurucam
October 14th, 2015, 05:50 PM
If I understood the question, I might be disposed to answer it. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Peace

How indeed can you attempt to guide/help me if you cannot understand what I say.

The question is very simple. However in order to make it easier for you to understand, it can be broken up into the following.

1.) When your family members, relatives and friends die do you, and your remaining family members, relatives and friends bury them in the earth (i.e. hell) with the expectation that the Lord Jesus will return in a physical body to shout out to them to rise out of the earth at some still to come day? . . . yes or no?

2.) Is this your practice and tradition? . . . yes or no?

3.) Are all your dead family members, relatives and friends still in the earth which is hell? . . . yes or no?

4.) Is this what you did and continue to do, to your dead family members, relatives and friends? . . . yes or no?

5.) Are you inviting me to do the same? . . . yes or no?

Please give straight answers so your honesty can shine forth. Then one can trust you.

Most traditional Christians do this covertly. They do not boldly, proudly or other wise, admit it. They serve Satan covertly by burying their dead family members, relatives and friends in the depths of earth with Satan. This is where all these unfortunate people are now, some for as long as 2000 odd years.

Is this what you do to your dead family members, relatives and friends and then claim you loved them? . . . yes? or no?

You should be aware that Christians do not do that, they do not go that way. The Lord provided another path for those who follow him.

The Lord left two options:

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.

Stand up and proudly proclaim what you do (yes or no). Do not evade straight and simple questions. If you do then you will simply undermine your integrity. Then how can you even dream of helping or guiding another? At best your remaining option would be to sell lemon used cars to naive unsuspecting customers.

Do you want to sell "lemons" to innocent, naive and unsuspecting people? Some people delight in selling "lemons" to innocent, naive and unsuspecting people. Can you? Would you?

Angel4Truth
October 14th, 2015, 05:55 PM
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius

Who wants to stay on the earth now? I would rather be with Jesus.

Grosnick Marowbe
October 14th, 2015, 06:00 PM
Thank you for reading and for letting me know.

Actually it is different in some ways. I do believe that my latest write is clearer and more concise.

Is it not very desirable to reach more and more people?

I am also trying to get readership across the wider internet.

Yeah. Maybe some 60s hippies will be interested?

Grosnick Marowbe
October 14th, 2015, 06:02 PM
How indeed can you attempt to guide/help me if you cannot understand what I say.

The question is very simple. However in order to make it easier for you to understand, it can be broken up into the following.

1.) When Your family members, relatives and friends die do you, your family, relatives and friends bury them in the earth (i.e. hell) with the expectation that the Lord Jesus will return in a physical body to shout out to them to rise out of the earth at some still to come day?

2.) Is this your practice and tradition?

(3.) Are all your dead family members, relatives and friends still in the earth which is hell?

4.) Is this what you did and continue to do, to your dead family members, relatives and friends?

5.) Are you inviting me to do the same?

Please give straight answers so your honesty can shine forth. Then one can trust you.

Most traditional Christians do this covertly. They do not boldly, proudly or other wise, admit it. They serve Satan covertly by burying their dead family members, relatives and friends in the depths of earth with Satan. This is where all these unfortunate people are now, some for as long as 2000 odd years.

What if they're cremated?

Grosnick Marowbe
October 14th, 2015, 06:03 PM
You're starting to sound like "Letsargue."

OCTOBER23
October 14th, 2015, 06:18 PM
PISCES ??????????

Sounds Fishy to me.

I was born in January and so it Looks like

me and you are the only Aquarians here.

Been me up !

:rapture:

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 02:00 AM
Who wants to stay on the earth now? I would rather be with Jesus.

That option was always available for the past 2000 odd years. The chosen few have been taking up that option for the past 2000 odd years. They know that Jesus is in spirit heaven. They know that to be with Jesus one must be in spirit heaven.

If one wants to be with the Lord Jesus one must literally follow the Lord Jesus to spirit heaven, one cannot be buried in the earth. The Lord left two options:

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.
To follow the Lord Jesus to spirit heaven requires that in one's current life time one become an (authentic) Christian. This would enable one to differ in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is the head of all). Then when one dies one will rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus Christ) to like an angel in heaven . . . and so actually be with the Lord Jesus in spirit heaven.

Instead 'traditional Christians' are the dead who are burying their dead. When they die they are buried in the earth (in hell) with their their dead physical bodies and to say there indefinitely. Indeed some of these 'traditional Christians' are in the earth (hell) for 2000 odd years. They are not with the Lord Jesus. They are with Satan who rules the under world. This is the tradition of 'traditional or fake Christians'. This is not the tradition of actual or authentic Christians.

Obviously 'traditional Christians', who number in the billion, are not Christians at all. They are the many who were misled by false prophets. They are the many who were called and not chosen. The billion strong traditional Christians are not the few who found the strait gate, and narrow way.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

. . . this continues on the next post # 40.

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 02:28 AM
continued from post # 39 above

Recently new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies transformed the consciousness or vibration on the surface of the earth. The dominating ('not seen') support system on the surface of earth is not the same as it was for the past 2000 odd years.

For the past 2000 odd years the ('not seen') support system (the consciousness) on the surface of earth supported the ideologies of Peter & Co. These ideologies were Satanic. And under that reality and that system one would certainly say "Who wants to stay on the earth now? I would rather be with Jesus."

Now the dominating vibration (the consciousness) on the surface of earth is like spirit heaven.

Matthew: 6 KJV N.T.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. God's kingdom of heaven has (recently) come to earth Before the kingdom of Satan ruled on earth.

Now the Old is dissolving everywhere on the surface of earth, to give way to the New. The Old was hell, now the New is on earth. The New is heaven on earth or the modern garden of Eden. The old was the Age of Pisces. The New is the Age of Aquarius. Now one will not have to go to spirit heaven to be with the Lord Jesus.

Human focus should now be on "How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius". One must be saved and delivered, just as before.

Therefore the same old question arises: What to do to be saved and delivered? This question is the same as: "How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius". The answer is here:

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 02:34 AM
PISCES ??????????

Sounds Fishy to me.

I was born in January and so it Looks like

me and you are the only Aquarians here.

Been me up !

:rapture:

Indeed, good point, it was very reasonable for Peter & Co. to rule in the Fishy Age.

Obvious they are too fishy to rule in the New Age of Aquarius.

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 02:54 AM
What if they're cremated?

Once one is a 'traditional Christian' one holds and is 'entangled' with idea that the dead are buried in the earth with their dead physical body (to wait indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus in a human physical body, "at some 'still to come day", so that He can shout out to them to rise out of the earth). This idea totally determines exactly what happens to such a one after death.

Even if such people are cremated they will stay with their ashes and eventually sink to the depths of earth (i.e. hell) and remain there indefinitely. This is what 'entanglement' (with a belief system) is about.

Unfortunately such people (i.e. traditional Christians) are not 'entangled' with the idea that when they die they will rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven . . . and so be with the Lord Jesus in spirit heaven. Therefore this ideas cannot and will not work for them. They leave this beautiful and heavenly idea and choice for others. They are simply and often arrogantly, stuck in their absolutely foolish "depth of the earth, hell bent" idea and choice.

These sad and unfortunate billion or so, traditional Christians are denied this other (rising to heaven in three days) option. This other option is hidden from them. They are hoodwinked and misled by self-perceived and self-proclaimed to be wise leaders. However these leaders, who are present and prolific every where, are essentially self-serving Satanic leaders who are actually foolish and false prophets. They delight in burying their own kind in the earth.

These leaders are not only in traditional Christian churches. They are found everywhere.

Indeed for the past 2000 odd years most leaders (i.e. world, religious, industry, scientific, medical, 'professional', political and other leaders) were in that (absolutely same) space and time which is called a space time continuum or a 'space time warp'. These leaders were all foolish and false prophets and they were totally unaware of the fact.

Now these leaders and their devoted or other disciples would be made aware of their folly. However too late would be their cry. They have been forcefully committed to and actually arrogantly, burying their own immediate family members, relatives and friend and others in hell with Satan.

Certainly you must intimately know at least one of these guys. One is ether in that space time continuum or not. That is the paradigm of intellectualism. That might sound trendy and elitist. However it can be and is the infectious disease of even the least or 'not at all', formally educated (including the most down trodden) on earth.

Now the time and space on the surface of earth for such leaders and all similar others, is gone. Such space time continuum is no longer available on the surface of planet earth. The surface of earth is in a new space time continuum which is conformed to the Age of Aquarius and totally alien to those old guys and their (old) ideas and belief systems.

This is why human focus should now be on "How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius". This is the same as: how to be saved and delivered.

The answer is here:

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 03:11 PM
Please read and reread my posts. Dwell on them. Meditate on them. They will not destroy. They will uplift.

In your brain, this will build the quantum of neurons which are entangled with Enlightenment in Christ. This will bring your brain into the spiritual age of Enlightenment in Christ.

Then this will drag your mind into the spiritual age of Enlightenment in Christ.

Then you will 'be' in the spiritual age of Enlightenment in Christ.

Then you will be absolutely relevant in the dominating and ruling consciousness on the surface of earth at this time.

In fact you can become even supreme in the dominating and ruling consciousness on the surface of earth at this time. Indeed you can become even better than, the dominating and ruling consciousness on the surface of earth at this time. The field of all possibilities exists and is absolutely accessible.

At all events, by bringing my post into your awareness in the above manner you have a new choice. You choose, at your own will, to stay or not stay, on the surface of earth at this time. The Spiritual Age of Aquarius is at hand and ruling the surface of earth. Aquarius has now entangled the surface of earth.

It is all win - win.

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 05:14 PM
Hebrews: 6 KJV N.T.
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2 leaving behind and not laying again any more the foundation of the following: Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

3 And this will we do, if God permit. (we will drop these things, if God permits).

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened ('in Christ'), and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

. . . to go back to those things.

. . . i.e. once a person tastes enlightenment in Christ, it is impossible to return to the things of the Old Testament and the Old.
The above mentions leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ (i.e. among other things). 'The doctrine of Christ' are the written concepts in the KJV N.T. which speaks of and refers to, a life in Christ.

Having, reading, hearing and knowing these doctrines amounts to nothing, in the actual scheme of things. One must become spiritually aware and actually 'in Christ', identically to the Lord Jesus Christ.

It is not in words (i.e. not in the doctrine of Christ recorded in the KJV N.T.). It is in possessing the actual spiritual capacities and spiritual powers related to actually being 'in Christ'. This is the aim and goal. This is enlightenment in Christ. Nothing else matters. All related things are simply aides to help each individual reach this aim and goal.

Certainly nothing but being actually 'in Christ', matters, for relevance in the Age of Aquarius on the surface of earth, at this time.

The revelation is confirming that once one tastes enlightenment in Christ and/or becomes enlightened in Christ, the doctrines of Christ are left behind. They are irrelevant and discarded. The doctrine in Christ are the written KJV N.T. and the steps for becoming enlightened in Christ. The steps for becoming enlightened in Christ comprise the KJV N.T.. The KJV N.T. comprise nothing more than the the steps for becoming enlightened in Christ.

Gurucam
October 15th, 2015, 05:56 PM
Do not get carried away by those movies etc., which promote survival through physical space ships and physical water crafts and physical actions. They are glorifying the path of the spiritually dead. They will lead you into false hope and destruction and oblivion.

The advise is to take those movies etc, as entertainment only. Fact is this does not happen to the masses. The ideas in those movies inevitably condition the subjective mind of the masses. This buried the spiritually dead and also enabled the past ruling statues quo of the past age of physicality, to reaffirm their relevance, their play and their physically based preoccupation into wide acceptance.

Those movies etc. are all proper-gander. They are geared to justify and endorse the path which industrialized countries have taken. They are also geared to glorify the countries where those movies etc. are made.

The makers of these movies etc. clearly recognizes that some transformation is pending or in progress. However the approaches used in their movies etc. to deal with that event is simply self glorifying.

These movies etc. are also geared to keep the population distracted away from the actual matrix of the the impending transformation on earth and how humans will actually adjust and/or survive.

Fact is no human can deal with or overcome the inevitable transformation through any physical means, i.e. not through physical space vehicle or through physical inter-planetary or physical intergalactic travel or even through physical actions on earth.

Surviving and overcoming the inevitable transformation of earth's surface, will be possible and based and anchored on only individual self spiritual actualization. Let no one fool you. Least of all do not let the past and now irrelevant, physically oriented status quo fool you and lead you through a very dark ally which will lead them and you into oblivion.

Interplanner
October 15th, 2015, 09:01 PM
People will lose their fear of self-fulfilling prophecies!

Gurucam
October 16th, 2015, 12:35 PM
The Lord left two clear options:


Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.
How can any one believe that he is following the Lord Jesus by burying his dead family members, relatives, friends and associates in the earth with their dead physical body (to wait indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus in a human physical body, "at some 'still to come day", so that He can shout out to them to rise out of the earth).

If the above is not 'the dead burying their dead' (for the past 2000 odd years), then what is?

It should have been very clear to all and sundry that the only way to follow the Lord Jesus is to rise in three days (after death), to be like an angel in heaven . . . and therefore actually be with the Lord Jesus . . . especially since this path is laid out very clearly in the KJV N.T.

Being buried in the earth to wait indefinitely is not at all following the Lord Jesus or even following the path which which the Lord Jesus took. The following is what the Lord did:

The Lord Jesus Christ rose to heaven in three days after his death. Then, through Paul, He left the path through which those people can become 'in Christ' (Christians) and so differ in no way from Him (except that He is the Lord of all). Then they too can rise to heaven in three days after death, to be like angels in heaven with the Lord.

Who but Peter/Satan, ruler of the underworld (hell) inside the depths of earth, would deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine this Christian direct heaven bound path which conforms to the commission of Paul.

Who would mislead and deny billions this path through which they can actually and literally follow the Lord to heaven.

Who but Peter/Satan, ruler of the underworld (hell) inside the depths of earth, would undermine that path so as to send billions to the depths of earth, which is hell and under the rule of Satan? It is either that or these billions of people (under the guidance of Peter & Co.) had to be and continue to be, very very gullible and very very foolish.

Which is it dear friend? Is it not time to wake up to truth and from self denial.

The sad and hard fact is that after 2000 odd years, all the billions who followed the Lord (either directly or indirectly) are in hell in the depths of earth, with other Satan, none are in heaven. None has followed the Lord Jesus to heaven.

How else is this explainable?

dialm
October 16th, 2015, 01:11 PM
Don't let them shake you Gurucam. We need this info so very much. Now back to taxes

The tax was paid out of the fish's mouth.

Is this the sign of Picesess?

Gurucam
October 16th, 2015, 01:38 PM
People will lose their fear of self-fulfilling prophecies!

People do get what they believe. And what a person believes and promotes is precisely what he deserves.

It is all fair. The creation/God is always conspiring to give every one exactly what he believes and promotes. Sometimes this means teleporting one to a different dimension that is more suited to their beliefs, after he dies.

Those who followed Peter & Co. include the billions in traditional Christianity. Throughout the past 2000 odd years these people were arrogant and dismissive about all other leaders and other traditions. They held and promoted that the only path to God was through the Lord Jesus. This was not correct. They were grossly misguided and mistaken.

The Lord Jesus is confirmed to be the only begotten Son of God. I hold that the Lord Jesus was indeed the only begotten Son of God to come among those people at that point in time. I perceive that the Lord Jesus is a among the highest Son of God, if not the the highest Son of God to ever come to earth in a human physical body.

The fact that the Lord was able to do miracles in that very 'spiritually dead' area of earth among those clearly 'very spiritually dead' people speaks volumes about his very high spiritual development and spiritual powers. Unlike other Sons of God, who came among other people (who were spiritually aware) in other parts of the world (which was also spiritually endowed) , the Lord Jesus got absolutely no support from his immediate environment.

He had to be very actualized and very powerful. In fact he could have been (and most probably was) the highest and most special of God's Sons.

Also I perceived that the spiritual path which the the Lord Jesus commissioned through Paul is the most advanced path available on earth for salvation and deliverance.

However that path remained hidden from both, 1.) the billions who were called to Christianity and 2.) most everyone else in the world. However only the billion who were called to Christianity and all who esteem the O.T. are today with out a spiritual traditional and without spiritual awareness. This means that they are not, at this time, qualified to be on the surface of earth, in the current age of Aquarius. However some time is still left for them to become qualified. They have to embrace and come onto Paul's commission in purity.

Most everyone else came from and are in spiritual traditions and are spiritually aware. These people are currently qualified to be on the surface of earth, now, in the Ages of Aquarius.

continued on next post

Gurucam
October 16th, 2015, 02:58 PM
continued from previous post.

Fact is the Lord Jesus came to help a specific set of people to come onto spirituality which was totally lacking in their tradition. If they had embraced his path those people would have had and owned the supreme path from among all spiritually aware people and spiritual traditions on earth.

However these people to whom the Lord came to and among, did not recognize him. In fact they openly denied, persecute, blaspheme, torture, undermine and then killed him.

They did not want or expected a messiah who would introduce them to spirituality. They wanted one who would reaffirm their spiritually dead old tradition and also endorse their accompanying violent and oppressive religious practices. The Lord Jesus did not in any way oblige them, in the way that they wanted so they denied, persecute, blaspheme, torture, undermine and then aided his crucifixion.

The Lord Jesus came among them, 2000 odd years ago, to add a spiritual dimension to their essentially spiritually dead already existing tradition. This meant a fundamental change to their existing way of life. This meant that the elitist Jews of that time would be displaced. They did not approve of this fundamental change to their way of life, so they openly denied, persecute, blaspheme, torture, undermine and then killed the Lord Jesus.

However, after the Lord was crucified and rose to heaven, He was able to finish delivering His Spiritual tradition through Paul.

However Peter & Co. continued to (covertly) serve the Jewish interest and agenda. They went on to deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine any semblance of the Spiritual path which was left by the Lord in a commission which was rendered onto only Paul.

All the while other traditions had and continued to have their spiritual tradition and path running, devotedly and silently. They knew that the age of Aquarius would eventually come and they knew that upholding, preserving and perusing their spiritual tradition would keep them relevant for the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, which has now dawned on earth.

continued on the next post.

Gurucam
October 16th, 2015, 02:59 PM
continued form previous post

You said: People will lose their fear of self-fulfilling prophecies!

Fact is the presence of fear in one's life, is the presence and rule of Satan in one's life and the total absence of God in one's life. On the other hand the presence and rule of love in one's life is the presence and rule of God in one's life.

Fear stand apart from 'self fulfilling prophesy'. Loosing fear will not dismiss 'self fulfilling prophesy'.

"The act (or process) of loosing fear comes simultaneously with gaining love". This is the transformation from being a 'child of the flesh' to being a 'child of God'. This is how one becomes one of the chosen few. This is how one is saved and delivered and becomes a Christian. Simply by being authentically fearless and loving instead, one has moved from being a 'child of the flesh to being 'child of God'. This is one essential indicator.

The Lord Jesus Christ is your fine example of this fact.

A Christian is a person who act absolutely from urging of love and not at all from fear. A Christian is one who has no fear and only love. This is a rear development and quality which only the chosen few possesses.

Fact is fear is a very evil thing. It is a tool of Satan. It is a tool which Satan use on his charges to keep them contained and in servitude to themselves, him and his status quo. However fear also killeth and also keeps one spiritually dead. Only the spiritually dead will succumb to fear.

Therefore Satan managing the spiritually dead (who does not wish to change to spiritual awareness) is a perfect match. Satan will inevitably use fear in his management approach. It is on this basis that Peter got his commission from the Lord Jesus Christ. It is worthy commission.

During the past 2000 odd years Peter & Co. succeeded in keeping a reasonable and acceptable level of peace and civility on earth, among spiritually dead people (who were not at all inclined to become spiritually aware). At the end of their life these spiritually dead people were all buried in the depths of earth. On earth, there was no other way to manage and deal with the spiritually dead who did not wish to become spiritually aware.

Remember these are the exact same kind of people who denied, persecuted, blasphemed, tortured, undermined and then killed the Lord Jesus Christ. They will do it again, if the Lord returns in a human physical body, for they will not at all recognize him and his spirit based teachings.

These are the billions in traditional Christianity and all others who esteem the O.T. They expect the Lord Jesus to reaffirm the O.T. when and if he returns. The Lord cannot and will not do so. This time He will totally dismiss the Old system. In fact the Lord will return only when all people who esteem the O.T. have died and are buried in the earth or have been teleported out of the surface of earth.

If these people (who number in the billions) do not become spiritually aware, they will all be teleported out of the surface of earth permanently, before the Lord Jesus returns to earth in a human physical body. Also Jesus is not likely to raise any spiritually dead people who were buried in the depths of earth when they died.

Peter & Co. provided a necessary and divine service by managing billions of 'spiritually dead' people on earth and then dispatching them appropriately when they died. This was one dimension of the appointment that was given to Peter by the Lord Jesus.

The question is was Peter aware of what he was doing? Or did the Lord Jesus cunningly manipulated Peter (who He identified to be Satan) into serving this essential purpose for Him? . . . I do believe that you could come up with the correct answer.

. . . continued in the next post

Gurucam
October 16th, 2015, 09:36 PM
. . . continued from the previous post.

If the above posts, # 49 to 51 does not define the separation, what then is the separation which the Lord mentioned in the following KJV N.T. revelation:

Matthew: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Galatians: 4 KJV NT,
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
There was separation of Abraham two sons, one would inherited. The other would not inherit, he would be cast out. This was allegory. It exemplified what will happen to everyone, everywhere. It applies generally:

At all events, like with the example of Abraham's two sons, children of the flesh will be cast out of the surface of earth, leaving only children of God to inherit the surface of earth, in the fullness of time.

This separation was being enforced for the past 2000 odd years. This was happening for the past 2000 odd years, every time 'the dead buried their dead' while others followed the Lord Jesus. 'The dead' are children of the flesh. Those who follow the Lord are children of God. Billions of children of the flesh (the dead) are off the surface of earth, buried in the depths of earth with their dead physical bodies. Soon the rest will be teleported out-a-here.

If the separation is not between 1.) the dead who bury their dead and 2.) those who follow the Lord, then what else can be the separation?

If the separation is not between 1.) children of the flesh and 2.) children of promise/children of God, then what else can be the separation?

If the separation is not between 1.) Old Testament people (Moses' & Peter's people) and 2.) New Testament people (Paul's people), then what else can be the separation?

2000 odd years ago this was the same separation which led the Old Testament people to deny, persecute, blaspheme, torture, undermine and expedite the killing of the Lord Jesus Christ.

. . . continued in the next post

Gurucam
October 16th, 2015, 09:56 PM
continued from the previous post:

2000 odd years ago this was the same separation which led the Old Testament people to deny, persecute, blaspheme, torture, undermine and expedite the killing of the Lord Jesus Christ.

These Old testament people believed that it was a done deal. They believed that they got away Scot-free after denying, persecuting, blaspheming, torturing, undermining and expedite the killing of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Son of God and their messiah. Also they believe that was the end of God's and Jesus mission to establish spiritual rule on earth. They were so sadly mistaken on both counts. God confirmed that final vengeance is His.

Romans: 12 KJV N.T.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord

These two things had to inevitably be completed. Jesus' mission to establish a spiritual rule on earth had to go on, any which way. And the denial, persecuting, blaspheming, torturing, undermining and killing of the Lord Jesus had to be properly and absolutely avenged.

The solution was simply all Old Testament people had to be removed out of the surface of earth, any which way. They were hell bent. They are the children of the flesh (the Old) who are not destine to inherit earth together with children of God (the New), now, in the fullness of time. Then spiritual rule will come to and be rooted on earth, and so be it. The time is at hand for the fulfillment of these two things.

One does not mess with the Son of God, God and any heavenly agenda which They have for earth. Angles fear to thread where those foolish O.T. people rushed in. They believed that denying, persecuting, blaspheming, torturing, undermining and expedite the killing of the Lord Jesus Christ was just one of their routine and done event. This was not so. 2000 odd years on earth is a short period in spiritual time. Seems that not a Jew or any other person who esteem the O.T. will be left on the surface of earth. They are all hell bent, any which way.

The transformation will be a terrible event for billions.

These are not my wishes or my ideas. I simply deliver that which is given to me to be delivered, as is. At any event, I cannot in any way deliver this result. This is "20/20 spiritual vision" . . . . also described as 20/20 'ears to hear' insights, posted as they were received.

People might seek to be informed by these posts and seek salvation and deliverance through the authentic path that was rendered onto Paul by the Lord Jesus. This might help these very unfortunate people, in these last days.

dialm
October 17th, 2015, 04:27 AM
Having His followers pay the tax seemed to help them stay connected to the real world. They had quit their jobs. They were wondering around in the wilderness. The tax helped them stay connected.

I pay income tax. How about you Gurucam? Do you pay income tax?

Gurucam
October 17th, 2015, 08:06 AM
Having His followers pay the tax seemed to help them stay connected to the real world. They had quit their jobs. They were wondering around in the wilderness. The tax helped them stay connected.

I pay income tax. How about you Gurucam? Do you pay income tax?

The Lord Jesus and God had and showed no compassion for 'the dead'. The dead are Satan's people and Satan operatives. This is why He instructed, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

This is why for the past 2000 odd years and up to this day 'the dead are burying their dead in the depths of earth'. Seems that they were tricked by the Lord Jesus into doing this because this fulfilled the will of God.

The Lord Jesus was committed to doing 'any which thing' to ensure that the will of God for earth, was accomplished. The Lord simply had Peter & Co. bury their dead counterparts in the depths of earth. For the past 2000 odd years, billions of spiritually dead people were buried in the earth which is hell. None were raised out of the depths of earth. They are all contained within the depths of earth.

Jesus & God wanted and continue to want, God's kingdom of heaven to come to earth. This is the will of God. This is the divine agenda for the surface of earth. This is possible only if there are only children of God on the surface of earth. All people who were buried in the depths of earth are children of the flesh. Therefore these people will not be helped to rise out of the depth of earth.

The Lord spoke of separation.

continued in the next post

Gurucam
October 17th, 2015, 11:33 AM
continued from the previous post

The Lord spoke of separation.

Matthew: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Galatians: 4 KJV NT,
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
There was separation of Abraham two sons. One would inherited. The other would not inherit, he would be cast out. This was allegory. It exemplified what will happen to everyone, everywhere in the world. It applies generally:

At all events, like with the example of Abraham's two sons, children of the flesh (the spiritually dead) will be cast out of the surface of earth, leaving only children of God to inherit the surface of earth. This is to be totally completed now, in the fullness of time.

The dead were always connected only to physicality. The law, canons and Peter & Co. served the purpose of keeping the dead managed and in constructive activities which resulted in peace on earth and food and shelter for the spiritually dead masses until one of two things happened to each of them:

Until each dead person either
- become spiritually aware and onto Christ and Paul's commission (these would rise to heaven in three days, after death) . . . . or

- remained spiritually dead and be buried inside the depths of earth together with his dead physical bodies,and remain there indefinitely.

That is, until each dead person either became spiritually aware and followed the Lord Jesus or he remain spiritually dead and was buried in the earth by his dead counterparts. The above was the Lord's instructions, according to:

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.
The earth's surface was simply being continuously cleared of spiritually dead people under the tradition of traditional Christianity. Now there is no room for them on earth. The end for them on earth is at hand.

These remaining days are the last chance for spiritually dead people to become spiritually aware and 'in Christ'. Other wise they will be dispatched, in one block, to hell in the underworld. Indeed this will no longer be done in old age after they die. Soon all spiritually dead people on earth will be collective and total teleported out of the surface of earth and into the depths of earth, simultaneously, in the twinkling of an eye.

This will leave only children of God on the surface of earth to inherit the surface of earth. Soon after the Lord Jesus will appear on earth in a human physical body. This time the Lord and His New Testament will be absolutely relevant and absolutely welcomed, with the highest esteem, on the surface of earth. There will be absolutely no opposing, Old Testament people on earth.

Those who wish to becoming spiritually aware and 'in Christ, now, in these last days must do so in the same way as it was always done. This is the same as: What to do to be saved and delivered? This question is the same as: "How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius". The answer is here:

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

. . . . continued in the next post

Gurucam
October 17th, 2015, 11:37 AM
. . . continued from the previous post.

Dialm, you said: I pay income tax. Then you asked: How about you Gurucam? Do you pay income tax?

I do. I render onto Cesar that which is Cesar. However Cesar is not going to be on earth, much longer.

Fact is, taxes help to keep 'the dead', managed under the laws of the land, fed, clothed and sheltered. 'The dead' could be and would be much more wild and warlike if we do not pay taxes to support and enable those who are consumed with managing the spiritually dead masses.

Peter & Co., Governments etc. are all in the occupation of managing the spiritually dead.

The above statement applies also to tithes and offerings given to traditional Christian churches. This also applies to charitable donations of all kinds. They are all relevant and necessary activities, at this time on earth.

When the final batch of spiritually dead people are teleported out of earth, soon, in the twinkling of an eye, there will be no one left to collect taxes. No one will be interested in collecting taxes. No one will need taxes. There will be no need to collect taxes.

Until then taxes and tax collection are needed.

Taxes will no longer be collected or paid, on earth, after the following event:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
It is very likely that our modern 'particle accelerating' scientists will soon open a 'black hole' portal to the underworld. They will bring their particle accelerating machine into full operation.

Fact is these modern 'particle accelerating' scientists are physically oriented. They are spiritually dead. Humans are always entangled with what they do and what they create. This means that 1.) their particle accelerating machine, 2.) the 'black hole' portal which their machine will open and 3.) the dimension which their black hole portal will open are all entangled with the underworld within the depths of earth.

This means that in that 'twinkling of an eye', when they open their black hole portal, all spiritually dead people will be teleported, simultaneously, from the surface of earth, through this 'black hole' portal and into the under world. These guy can and will do the final trick which will rid the surface of the earth of remaining children of the flesh in the fullness of time. This will enable children of God to inherit the surface of earth without children of the flesh.

After this taxes will no longer be collected or paid, any where on earth. In fact the idea of taxes is already dismantling every where in the world under grace of God.

Fact is the surface of the earth is currently entangled with the Spiritual Age of Aquarius. This means that for spiritually dead people, black hole portals can only take them out of earth's surface and into the hell, depths of earth. Black hole portals offer only one way transport.

Gurucam
October 17th, 2015, 04:00 PM
Dialm, most of the ideas, beliefs, movies etc about being 'left behind' is based on the following revelation:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
However most of the ideas, beliefs, movies etc about being 'left behind' seem to have it 'up-side-down'.

They believe and project that the worthy will leave the surface of earth. Fact is, the unworthy will be teleported out of earth' surface.

The prophesy is that 'children of God' (the chosen few) will inherit the surface of earth without any children of the flesh (the not-chosen masses), in the fullness of time.

The fact that the surface of earth has moved out of the physical Age of Pisces and into the Spiritual Age of Aquarius exacerbates, accelerates and supports this prophesy.

Also the idea of being left behind, or rather the idea of disappearing from the surface of earth is validated to be scientifically possible, through 'teleportation' through 'black hole' portals.

Modern 'physically oriented' 'particle accelerating' physicists have made a machine that can open a 'black hole' portal. No doubt they will open a 'black hole' portal any day now.

Inevitably, their black hole and the dimension which it opens, will be 'entangled' with the 'physical orientation' or 'spiritual dead-ness' of these 'particle accelerating' physicists.

(Physically oriented or spiritually dead people are also called 'children of the flesh'.)

This means that the black hole of these physicists, will open a portal to the underworld within the depths of the earth. This also means that only and all similarly entangled humans (i.e. all children of the flesh) will be drag from the surface of earth, through this portal and into the dimension of the under world within the depths of the earth. These are all entangled. Note that this 'spiritually dead' entanglement does not encompass the surface of earth at this time.

This will leave only children of God on the surface of earth, to inherit the surface of earth, totally without children of the flesh, in the fullness of time. Children of God, the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, the Heavens and the surface of earth are all entangled. In other words God's kingdom of heaven has now dawned on earth. These are early days.

All circumstances, for materializing this end, have converged.

The final event will be simple but alarming. It will be totally devoid of: space ships, space travel on space ships, sea crafts, armies, American and other traditional hero and the likes.

. . . continue on the next post

Gurucam
October 18th, 2015, 05:00 AM
continued from the previous post

The final event will be simple but alarming. It will be totally devoid of: space ships, space travel on space ships, sea crafts, armies, American and other traditional hero and the likes.

At any event, with or without the aid of 'modern' physicists, a black hole will simply materialized on earth. This will open a live portal to the dimension of the underworld within the depths of earth. This portal will drag (teleport) all spiritually dead humans (i.e. all children of the flesh) from the surface of earth and into the dimension of the underworld within the depths of earth.

This will be an instant event. This will not be chaotic. No specially selected leader from the U.N., the International monetary fund etc. will be needed or useful. These leaders will all disappear. Their organizations will have no one. Their organizations will simply be rendered into nothing (none existence) by this twinkling of an eye, event.

Humans on earth have crossed a serious threshold. They have set a new standard (based on black holes) for war on earth. They have made 'first contact'. However not by any actual physical action. Such first contact can never happen at the level of physicality.

Fact is, once humans on earth can conceive the matrix of a 'black hole' and hold the desire to open one, they can and do make 'first contact' with divine beings in the quantum/spirit realm. Then any divine being is free to open one (a black hole) on earth, on his own terms.

Such 'first contact' is achieved simply by having an adequately informed, quantum idea which one desires to physically materialize. This is never a physical event. These modern 'physically oriented', 'particle accelerating' physicists, have indeed made 'first contact' with divine beings in the Quantum world. They have unwittingly done it the traditionally way.

That is they have done it meditatively. Their first contact was not achieved through their physical particle accelerating device. They have achieved their first contact, with divine being in the quantum/spirit realm, by deeply having and holding the quantum idea of a 'deep hole' and strongly desiring to open one. However these divine being are not their friends.

These divine beings are peers of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Now these physicists will be addressed, on their 'spiritually dead' terms, by these divine beings. These physicists are in way over their heads. Fact is, by their knowledge and intent, these physicists have unwittingly justified the use of a new level of 'weponery' in a war between heaven and earth. And their contacts are not friendly to them.

. . . continued on the next post

Gurucam
October 18th, 2015, 05:02 AM
. . . from the previous post

These divine beings are peers of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Now these physicists will be addressed, on their 'spiritually dead' terms, by these divine beings. These physicists are in way over their heads. Fact is, by their knowledge and intent, these physicists have unwittingly justified the use of a new level of 'weponery' in a war between heaven and earth. And their contacts are not friendly to them.

These divine being live in and operate from their heaven base in the quantum world. These divine being are still very mad with 'spiritually dead' people on earth. They are still seeking revenge from spiritually dead people and their blood line on earth. 2000 odd years ago, these people denied, persecuted, blasphemed, undermined and killed the Lord Jesus when he was physically on earth.

Then for all of the ensuing 2000 years thereafter these spiritually dead people continued to deny, persecute, blaspheme and undermine the Spiritual tradition of the Lord Jesus. They foolishly believe that their past and continuing actions were done deals. Fact is their past and continuing actions negatively impacted and continue to negatively impact, all divine being in the quantum or spirit world.

Jesus came to open a bridge between humans on earth and being in the quantum or spirit world. This is the basis of the Lord Jesus spiritual tradition which was eventually rendered onto only Paul. Jesus' effort and His spiritual tradition were both absolutely relevant and related to these divine being with who these essentially 'spiritually dead' physicists had first contact. These physicists are like 'cockroach in fowl business', they must and will get eaten alive.

The spiritual tradition which the Lord Jesus left on earth, in a commission that was rendered onto Paul. This was designed to enable these divine being to come to earth. This tradition was totally and perpetually denied and undermined by the likes of these physicists. Now the tables are turned. Now these spiritually dead physicists are attempting to go into the spirit/quantum world where these divine being live and rule.

These physicist are attempt to venture there using their 'particle accelerating machine . . . a physical device. This is a compounding and blatant demonstration of their spiritual dead state. This is in total opposition to and denial of, the actual path through which one can enter and function in the quantum/spiritual world, as prescribed by the Lord Jesus. This is also in total opposition to and denial of, the actual path used by divine being.

The spiritual dead state of these physicists and their unwitting boldness (in going where angels fear to thread) are uncanny and amazing. They are so deeply in way over their heads. Clearly they are totally unaware of the deep 'mess' that have created for and precipitated on, themselves and their kind.

They are dead in their waters. Their weapon will be turned against them. The guys from quantum or spirit heaven need no physical devices to open and use black hole portals. They do this at will, with noting but the intended idea. And they are not friendly to these physicists. In fact these divine being view these physicists and their like kind to be enemies.

These physicists have simply given justification and authority to divine being of spirit/quantum heaven, to use black hole' weaponry on spiritually dead people on earth. These physicists' have boldly ventured out of their world of physicality and into the spirit world of divine beings, armed with only absolute foolishness and weakness.

. . . . continued on the next post

Gurucam
October 18th, 2015, 05:04 AM
. . . . continued from previous post

These physicists have simply given justification and authority to divine being of spirit/quantum heaven, to use black hole' weaponry on spiritually dead people on earth. They have unwittingly invited a new dimension to the war between spiritually dead people on earth and divine being in spirit/quantum heaven.

These physicists' have boldly ventured out of their world of physicality and into the spirit world of divine beings, armed with only absolute foolishness and weakness.

Fact is these physicists are not making 'first human contact' with being in the quantum/spirit dimension. They are simply trying to do it on their physical or spiritually dead terms. The being in the quantum/spirit dimension are known as divine being.

Fact is spiritually aware people have long had first and continuing live contact with divine beings in the spirit/quantum world, in the informed, real and actual manner. The quantum field is the world of guidance for obedient spiritually aware people. These are the chosen few who are actually or authentic Christians, on earth. All divine being there are very close and dear friends of obedient spiritually aware people on earth.

Our 'particle accelerating' physicists with their physical device are very johnny come lately. They are not even aware that they have many enemies in the quantum world. Also they are not aware that their expensive particle accelerator is an insult and abomination to the beings in the quantum/spirit field.

Compounding the sad and unfortunate state of these physicists is the fact that their spiritually dead peers have a very long (2000 year) history of absolutely denying, persecuting, blaspheming and undermining the quantum/spirit world of these divine beings. Now they foolishly believe that their first contact will be friendly and they will be a 'big deal'. They are so absolutely sadly mistaken.

Divine being from heaven will very soon, use black hole weapons on all spiritually dead people on earth. They will also, turn the black hole 'physical creating device' of our physicists against them and their kind.

This will lead to the mass and instant teleportation of billions of spiritually dead humans, out of the surface of earth, through 'black hole portals' and into the parallel under world dimension within the depths of earth, where the sun and moon do not shine.

This, my friends, is how the cookie will crumble.

Proverb: 27 KJV
5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
7 The full soul loatheth an honeycomb; but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Come on, be the last who are first. Be among the last to know truth and adapt to truth (as confirmed here) and you will be the first of the few, to be chosen.

Matthew: 20 KJV N.T.
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Luke: 11 KJV N.T.
33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.


Luke: 8 KJV N.T.
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
The fullness of time is at hand. All truth is being confirmed in absolute clarity for all to know.

dialm
October 19th, 2015, 06:38 AM
Excellent answers Gurucam. You are very enlightening.

Now if I may ask another question.

It seems that the dead can duplicate everything that is spoken of concerning the Angels. The dead duplicate by their usage of electricity.

Are the Angels part of the world of the dead?

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 07:11 AM
Excellent answers Gurucam. You are very enlightening.

Now if I may ask another question.

It seems that the dead can duplicate everything that is spoken of concerning the Angels. The dead duplicate by their usage of electricity.

Are the Angels part of the world of the dead?

Thanks for your naturally flowing questions. It determines the direction of my thread/discourse. This is a critical requirement in the art of teaching. This was always necessary but not forth coming before. Again bless your heart.

The dead and angels are light years apart. That is, light years different.

The dead are 'fallen' angles. These are angels who have fallen way way down and totally off the (spiritual) wagon. One might say that they have fallen off the spiritual grid. That would convey an idea in the right direction. However that would not be accurate. It would be accurate to say that they are totally unaware of the spiritual grid (because the spiritual grid is ever existing). They are also not aware of the magnetic and electrical grid.

There is a grid more subtle and beyond the spirit grid. magnetism and electricity are part of the spirit/force grid. The spiritually dead are not aware of the spirit grid. They are even more deeply unaware of (dead to) this higher grid which is more subtle but much more powerful. This is the consciousness grid.

Electricity and magnetism abound every where. Magnetism comprise a grid with touches, connect with and sustains everyone and every thing. Electricity is ever present and ever available in this grid.

For existence, everyone needs, is in communion with, uses, depend on and is subjected to, both magnetism and electricity. The dead are simply not aware of this fact. Their body and life are sustained, by this magnetism/electricity grid, in the simplest possible configuration whiles they exist in serious unconsciousness.

The dead have no conscious control or use of their own or other electricity.

Manipulation of magnetism and electricity for serving one's magical ends is the tool and lifestyle of angels. However magnetism and electricity are far from the final frontier.

Consciousness is a far more subtle and far more 'not see' and far more supportive and far more powerful. In fact consciousness is the most subtle building block in the creation. It is the God 'particle'. However it is not a 'particle', per say. Consciousness does not have any dimension of physicality or energy/force. At best it can be described as a field of pure intelligence and/or pure potentiality.

Consciousness is a far more powerful grid that pervades, permeates and connects every aspect of creation. This is the final frontier of connectivity and existence. The Lord Jesus and angels can and do operate only from this final frontier of creation.

From this underlying consciousness fabric of creation, the Lord Jesus and angles can and do harness any thing, in the creation and create any event or thing, in the creation, absolutely effortlessly, from their slightest intent.

By operating from the level of the consciousness matrix and grid, the Lord (miraculously) controlled the energy or force in the wind and weather. Also by operating, at another time, from this same consciousness matrix and grid the Lord was able to (miraculously) physically materialize hundred of fish and bread loafs.

The Lord Jesus did not accomplish these feats, physically. He did them by operation through the consciousness matrix and grid. The dead can make no intervention to control the weather. However they can have fish and bread but only by physically catching and physically cooking fish and by physically reaping wheat and physically baking bread.

The dead can live only physically. The Lord Jesus and angels live miraculously, in both, the realm of energy/forces (i.e. of wind and weather) and in the physical world (of food etc.) by operating through the consciousness matrix and grid.

The dead defines being who operate from the opposite extreme position, from which the Lord Jesus and angels operate. The dead operates at the basis level of physicality, totally unaware of (or dead to) the energy and consciousness matrices and grids. They can operate only in the physical world. That is the dead are being who can operate only physically in the physical world. They are not functional in the energy or force world or in the world of pure consciousness.

Jesus and angels operate only at the level of consciousness to create any thing or any reality in the energy or force field and/or physical world.

The dead are called the dead because they are actually dead to every thing in the creation except physicality.

The creation is comprised of three realms in the following assenting order:
1.) the physical world
2.) the world of energy or forces and
3.) the world of consciousness or intelligence.

People are classified into four categories born from combinations of the above three. These classifications are according to their individual level of awareness or unawareness of the above three 'worlds'. This directly correlates to their functionality in these three 'world'.

The dead are at the lowest level. Jesus and angels are at the highest level.

Having the capacity, actualization and skill to operate from the level of the consciousness matrix and grid does not necessarily say that one is or make one, enlightened, or saved or delivered or a child of God.

. . . continued in the next post

dialm
October 19th, 2015, 09:06 AM
Thank you again friend Gurucam.

Some of the dead seem to have the use of Secret Electricity. This Secret Electricity is not a plug-in. They command this power with their voices. They call forth the dead power.

Some of the dead are in command of more Secret Electricity than others. For example

The Pope is in command of Secret Electricity. He uses his dead power to break the law and then get away with it. The law has no power over the Pope. The Pope has broken every law ever given to mankind. And yet his Secret Electrical power keeps him safe from the power of the law.

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 10:22 AM
continued from the last post.

Having the capacity, actualization and skill to operate from the level of the consciousness matrix and grid does not necessarily say that one is or make one, enlightened, or saved or delivered or a child of God.

Having the capacity, actualization and skill to operate from the level of the consciousness matrix and grid are gifts of the Spirit. These are among the first fruits of the Spirit.

To be enlightened in Christ, to be saved and delivered, to be under grace of God, to do the will of God, to serve your own spirit, to be a child of God and to be a Christian are all components of the same state. This final state requires one take one other step after having the first fruits of the Spirit.

One must now be led, unconditionally, into all of one's works (miracles and all) by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned through one's own heart or spirit. One must do so even if one has to transgress all ideals and laws of morality, society and religiosity (i.e. including the Ten Commandments). This is the final ultimate contact. This is the final ultimate life style. This and only this is a life 'in Christ'. This and only this is how a Christian lives. This is enlightenment in Christ.

Indeed this is how to simultaneously be saved and delivered, to be under grace of God, to do the will of God, to serve your own spirit, to be a child of God and to be a Christian

There you have it . . . a simplified version.

dialm
October 19th, 2015, 10:46 AM
Thanks again Gurucam. You have a friend. Call on me and I will defend your spirit. God bless you.

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 11:08 AM
Thank you again friend Gurucam.

Some of the dead seem to have the use of Secret Electricity. This Secret Electricity is not a plug-in. They command this power with their voices. They call forth the dead power.

Some of the dead are in command of more Secret Electricity than others. For example

The Pope is in command of Secret Electricity. He uses his dead power to break the law and then get away with it. The law has no power over the Pope. The Pope has broken every law ever given to mankind. And yet his Secret Electrical power keeps him safe from the power of the law.

The Pope with his Secret Electricity device is similar to spiritually dead people who use nuclear fission devises and 'particle accelerating' devices. They are all venturing physically into the spirit/force world. Theirs are ventures into the world of forces/spirits with physical devises., They will get some 'half baked' results which will be self destructive. They are all entangled spiritually dead people.

The Pope, modern 'particle accelerating' and other scientist and the past ruling status quo are all entangled in the grid of spiritual unawareness.

They are also all entangled with their 'command of Secret Electricity device', their 'particle accelerating device' and their nuclear fission devices'.

They are also all entangled with the results of these devices.

These are all physical attempts to encroach in the quantum realm of spirits and/or forces. Therefore they are all entangled with physicality. This it self, is to be entangled with the dark age and the matrix in the depths of earth (hell).

Their nuclear devices created nuclear waste which is destructive to some humans etc. Their 'particle accelerating' device will create a 'black hole' which will be totally entangled with them and their kind.

Also they will have no control over this black hole which they open. It will teleport all of them out of the surface of earth and into the depths of earth, in the twinkling of an eye.

They are venturing where angels fear to thread. The spirit or force world is the quantum field. One must have a related and relevant Gift of the Spirit in order to function and operate in that field.

The Pope, modern 'particle accelerating' and other scientist and the past ruling status quo are all venturing there with pure physicality.

The world of forces/spirits is the quantum field. This is where divine souls live and rule. They are masters of operating with electricity, nuclear energy, black hole portals and all similar things. The fact is one can operate competently (with self preservation) in those areas only by possessing a relevant and related Gift of the Spirit.

. . . continued in the next post

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 12:36 PM
continued from the previous post

The world of forces/spirits is the quantum field. This is where divine souls live and rule. They are masters of operating with electricity, nuclear energy, black hole portals and all similar things. The fact is one can operate competently (with self preservation) in those areas only by possessing a relevant and related Gift of the Spirit.

Divine beings in the quantum realm are looking down on these physically oriented people, with disdain and aggravation. These sad spiritually dead people continue, with a vengeance to fly in the face, of the Lord Jesus, angels and other divine beings in the spirit/force realm of the quantum field.

More precisely they are flying in the face of, denying, persecuting, blaspheming, undermining and seeking to relegate the very fabric of the Spiritual tradition which the Lord left on earth in the commission that was rendered onto only Paul.

They have initiated war, at a totally different level, with divines beings who live in and control the quantum field. They have introduced black holes weaponry to this fight. However their enemies (divine being in the quantum realm) are light years more advanced (than them) in the mobilizing and use of this weapon.

They are absolutely destine to be absolutely devastated and teleported to the dimension of their physically oriented entanglement. This is hell within the depth of earth.

Their sad state and inevitable dismissal from the surface of earth, is intensified and accelerated by the recent realignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies. This new alignment as transformed the surface of the earth to the Spiritual Age Aquarius.

This has rendered the Pope, modern 'particle accelerating' and other scientist, the past ruling status quo and all others of physicality and spiritual unawareness, totally alien to the surface of earth and absolutely more relevant and entangled to the depths of earth where the sun, moon and stars (are all fallen and blackened) i.e. do not shine.

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
The tribulation:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
After the above tribulation the following will happen to all spiritually dead people who were teleported out of the surface of earth and into the depths of earth:

Joel: 3 KJV
15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
The above can and will only be, in the under world in the depths of earth which is hell.

Peter & Co sent billions of their followers there, soon they and all their liked kind will be joining them, in one fell scoop. They are all entangled. They will be teleported to where the sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars have withdraw their shining.

All those doom's day prophesies relate to the predicament of the spiritually dead with respect to their destination after the tribulation mentioned in Luke: 17 verses: 34 to 36, KJV N.T.. They seem destine to be delivered (teleported) into the underworld within the depths of earth, alive in physical bodies. The dimension would be supportive of life (at least for a while) however it will be absolutely gruesome and without the light of the sun, moon and stars.

The surface of the earth will remain normal and intact. Prophesy is that children of God (the chosen) will inherit the surface of earth without children of the flesh (the spiritually dead), now in the fullness of time.

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Good things will be done on the surface of the earth for the chosen, who will remain here. Also the sun, the moon and the stars will not darken over the surface of earth.

These 'bad' thing are the existing reality where spiritually dead people will be teleported too. Reaching there and finding that reality will all be very sudden and new to them. They will indeed experience it as 'The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining'. They will simply be teleported, in the twinkling of an eye, into a dark dimension where the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine.

This will happen only to those who were teleported out of earth and into that dark dimension of their spiritually dead entanglement.

Traditional Christians seem to have it reversed and wrong.

. . . continued in the next post.

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 01:11 PM
. . . continued from previous post

Traditional Christians seem to have it reversed and wrong.

There is a very clear description of the dimension to which Old Testament people will be teleported. This dimension will not necessarily be the depths of earth. However it will be conformed to that reality.

However light from the sun, the moon and the stars will not shine there. It will be a dark age reality. It will be life supporting to humans in physical bodies. It will conform to the continuing enslavement of people who esteem the Old Testament, Peter's commission and all other similar ideals and laws on earth. These thing define the wisdom of the spiritually dead. These are the basics.

Spiritually dead people are fully entangled with that alternative dimension. They will be teleported there, soon.

The surface of the earth is now conformed to the Spirit age of Aquarius. This new reality conforms to the ideals of spirituality. The ideals of spirituality include the commission that was rendered onto only Paul.

From among all the billions called to Christianity, only those (chosen) few who actually and totally dropped Peter's commission and totally embrace Paul's commission are entangled with the surface of earth at this time. Only they can stay here or return here.

In addition to these chosen few from the billions in traditional Christianity, there are billions in much older spiritual traditions on earth. These billions are entangled with the surface of earth at this time. They can stay here and/or return here.

With the absence of spiritually dead people (children of the flesh) from the surface of earth, there will be spontaneous remission of the surface of earth to a modern garden of Eden.
Revelation: 13 KJV N.T.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 01:24 PM
Thanks again Gurucam. You have a friend. Call on me and I will defend your spirit. God bless you.

Thanks. You have offered the best.

freelight
October 19th, 2015, 03:19 PM
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Blessings from the One Infinite Eternal Universal Father and Mother of All That IS or ever will be......


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Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 08:24 PM
The dooms day prophesies seem so befitting to the surface of earth because it will indeed happen in a parallel dimension (a parallel earth) very similar to that of earth.

In the tribulation, all spiritually dead people (including all who esteem the Old Testament) will be teleported out of this earth and into that other earth in a split second.

However, they will not be aware that they are on that other earth which has always been devoid of light from the sun, moon and stars. They will perceive that they are still on this earth and others have left in the twinkling of an eye. Fact is it would be they who have left.

This is the tribulation event:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The dead (spiritually dead) will be teleported to a parallel earth which is physically, very similar to earth but also different. It has long existed. That parallel earth is a spiritually dead place. It is void of any spiritual dimension and any heavenly bodies. It is an earth that is hell.

That parallel earth is conformed precisely and only to the ideologies and beliefs of spiritually dead people i.e. Old Testament people. There are no New Testament ideas or New Testament people there. However it is other wise similar to the environment on earth. It is the ideal place for those who esteem the Old Testament.

Spiritually dead people i.e. Old Testament people. are all perfectly entangled with that parallel earth.

Fact is, for the past 2000 odd years, billions of traditional Christians and all other believers of the Old Testaments were sent ('teleported') to that parallel earth when they died on this earth. They include the dead who were buried by their dead counterparts after they died on this earth. They are all spiritually dead people.

Additionally, soon all remaining spiritually dead people on this earth will be teleported to that parallel earth dimension in one single split second event (i.e. according to Luke : 17 verses: 34 to 36 KJV N.T.).

The reality on that parallel earth is conformed precisely to the ideals and laws of the Old Testament. It is therefore precisely relevant to people who esteem the Old Testament. However, the reality on that parallel earth is perpetually hell.

This is due to the fact that none of the inhabitants, there, are capable of upholding their ideologies and beliefs which rule there and punishment occurs perpetually and perfectly, in real time. This makes it and keep it a perpetual hell. Also there is no light or truth there, because the light of the Sun, the moon and stars never reach that dark parallel earth.

This parallel earth is the eventual destination residence of all spiritually dead/Old Testament people who were ever on earth and/or are still on earth. The creation has configured that parallel earth especially for these people on their terms, i.e. according to their Old Testament, ideologies, laws and beliefs. They will all go there to live and continue to endeavor to uphold those Old Testament, ideologies, laws and beliefs, which they esteem. They are destine to remain there indefinitely . . . and so be it.

Simultaneously, the surface of the (original) earth is now entangled with the Spiritual Age of Aquarius. God's kingdom of heaven is rapidly forming on the surface of earth. New Testament people (i.e. Paul's people) and all other spiritually aware people (from other older spiritual traditions) are perfectly entangled with the surface of this original earth. These are the chosen. They absolute relevant to the current surface of earth. They will all have blissful lives on earth and absolutely flourish here.

There are no dooms day prophesies for the original planet earth or for spiritually aware people who may or may not be, on this earth, at this time.

All dooms day prophesies relate and apply only to that parallel earth and the spiritually dead people who were teleported from earth to that parallel earth destination, dimension.

continued on the next post

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 09:00 PM
. . . continued from the previous post

Before the surface of the earth came into the Age of Aquarius, it supported both heaven and hell. Now the surface of earth can no longer support hell. This means that the surface of earth cannot support spiritually dead people, nor can it support the Old Testament.

Only spiritually dead people esteem the Old Testament concepts of the law, sin and hell. These are not spiritual concepts. Spiritually aware people esteem the New Testament, grace and truth.

All spiritually dead people currently on earth, will soon be teleported in one fell scoop, to that parallel earth where all their past generations have gone after they died on earth. There all Old Testament concepts of the law, sin and hell rule supreme and literally with accompanying punishment in real time.

The fullness of the O.T. with respect to the law, sin, hell, the devil etc. are real and enforced on that parallel earth. However as it was on this earth, it is same on that other earth. No one there can or do uphold the law or any other tenant of the Old Testament. Punishment is not delayed, weakened or overlooked. It is delivered in full force, right on time. Therefore they all live in eternal punishment which is the fabric of hell.

Now that the earth (the original earth) has entered the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, all remaining spiritually dead people, who are on earth at this time, will, very soon, be teleported in one block, to that other earth . . . leaving only obedient spiritually aware people here.

These spiritually dead people will arrive at their new parallel earth destination suddenly and unexpectedly. They will be teleported in the twinkling of an eye. It will be a time warp. Then they will immediately begin to experience all the dooms day prophesies, mentioned in the KJV N.T. However this will only be their walking through experience of the preexisting reality on that parallel earth. They will erroneously discern it as an on going experience as described in the KJV N.T. They will be deluded.

However it will actually be only their experiencing of the preexisting reality in that parallel earth. So much of the physicality of that parallel earth will be familiar to them that they will perceive that they are still on the original earth which is simply going through a serious transformation. They will not perceive that they were teleported into a preexisting reality on a parallel earth.

They will perceive that the spiritually aware people who are not with them have disappeared. They will not realize that it is they who have been removed (teleported) to a new environment. They will perceive that they are on the original earth and the sun and moon has gone dark and stars no longer shine, etc.

This will simply be their delusion. Nothing of the sort will happen on the original earth.

Fact is these spiritually dead people will be in a different but parallel earth where the sun, moon and stars never ever shined. Their dramatic entry onto that parallel earth and its preexisting dark age reality will cause them to erroneously perceive that they are going through this earth transforming to that earth. It will all be a delusion. However they will experience the event as very live, very real and very traumatic over an extended period of time, as described in dooms day prophesies.


. . . continued in the next post

Gurucam
October 19th, 2015, 09:03 PM
. . . continued from the previous post

Fact is these spiritually dead people will be in a different but parallel earth where the sun, moon and stars never ever shined.

For these spiritually dead people in their new earth, adjustment will be very traumatic and could seem to last a long time. They will eventually settled down and pick up their spiritually dead life style. However they will never realize that they were teleported to a different earth.

They will always believe that they are on the original earth which became suddenly changed because of cataclysmic fullness of time events. They are not given to know truth.

Their parallel earth is inhibited only by spiritually dead people, like them. That earth and its inhabitant have absolutely no spiritual or heavenly support. Never did. It is fully dark age. This will be their sad and unfortunate predicament on that parallel earth.

The reality on the surface of the original earth will change but only for the better. No cataclysmic event will occur on the surface of the original earth. After the departure of all spiritually dead people from earth's surface, things will change drastically. Earth's surface will be liberated from negativity and spontaneous remission will run rampant. This will bring the surface of earth into perfect balance and into a modern garden of Eden.

Only spiritually aware people can and will be on the surface of the original earth. They will all have the correct grasp of the events. The surface of (original) earth has already entered the Spiritual Age of Aquarius. Heaven will now be formed here in haste.

This fullness of time event will prove to be a perfect separation of children of the Old (the spiritually dead) and children of the New (the spiritually aware). They will end up in two similar but also different earths. Both earths will be perfectly suited to their occupants.

However the spiritually dead will not be happy.

. . . continued on the next post.

Gurucam
October 20th, 2015, 12:44 PM
. . . . continued from the previous post

However the spiritually dead will not be happy. The spiritually dead are children of the flesh, On earth they delighted in persecuting those who were born after the Spirit (i.e. obedient spiritually aware people). (See Galatians: 4 verse: 29 KJV N.T. quoted under) They would not be able to do that and/or thrive on that anymore.

The spiritually dead held the view and belief that every one will eventually be subjected to the law and canons and other laws which they esteem. They would not be happy when they learn that those ideal and laws are only for them i.e. only for those who esteem them.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
These spiritually dead people were quite happy to esteem those ideals and law if they believe that every one is subjected to them. When they find out that only they are subjected to those ideals and law and they are in a separate and different earth which requires only them to uphold all their own ideals and laws, they would be bitterly disappointed and unhappy.

These spiritually dead people were simply teleported to a time and place that is absolutely conformed to their past ideas, ideologies, beliefs, laws and canons. They are perfectly entangles with their new destination. They should be very happy in that environment which is perfectly conformed to the ideas, laws and beliefs which they vigorously esteemed and vigorously promoted on this earth. These were the tenants of the Old Testament.

They should be happy, however they would not be happy because they were not honestly committed to these ideas, laws and beliefs. They did not actually recognize those ideas, laws and beliefs. They were deceitful. They were simply using those to oppress, rule over and rob others. Now that these ideas, laws and beliefs has become the reality of their new world . . . well, they are literally in hell.

They would have to face and live life in their new parallel earth, in the reality of what they corrupted, used and promoted on this earth.

Revelation: 13 KJV N.T.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Also they would not like their new earth, without the presence of spiritually aware people present for them to persecute. Indeed no spiritually aware persons (children of God) will be around, in their earth, for them to persecute. Also no spiritually aware people will be around to help them with their uninformed, blundering, sad and unfortunate life.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Simultaneously with this discontent and unhappiness among the spiritually dead on their earth, spiritually aware people on (the original) earth will be perfectly happy without any spiritually dead people around. They will simply grow more and more blissful.

All dooms day prophesies and their accompanying traumas will be experienced only by spiritually dead people (i.e. children of the flesh) on another parallel earth, after they have been teleported there from this earth.

No dooms day prophesies and their accompanying traumas will be experienced on this earth, where only children of God will be left, without any children of the flesh (i.e. spiritually dead people).

Little time is left for spiritually dead people to become spiritually aware and relevant to the Spiritual Age of Aquarius on earth.

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Gurucam
October 20th, 2015, 01:38 PM
The absolute foolishness of it all is that these spiritually dead people exchanged a life span of 60 to 80 years on the surface of earth where the sun, the moon and stars shine, for an eternity in hell where the sun, the moon and stars do not shine. After 2000 odd years all who were buried are still in the depths of earth where the sun, the moon and stars do not shine. These are billions of unfortunate people.

Joel: 3 KJV
15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
These are the same people who buried their dead family members, relatives, friends and others in the earth with their dead physical bodies, under the belief that they are following the Lord Jesus. This had to result in:

Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Even more foolish is that the people who started and spread that idea were accepted to be wise leaders by billions who were called to Christianity.

Matthew: 24 KJV N.T.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Is it not a very huge blessing that the Spiritual and truly wiser, Age of Aquarius has dawned on earth. Indeed now, according to KJV N.T. prophesy, these foolish people will be out-a-here. This will lighten the load of foolishness on earth and tip the scales over, on the side of wisdom.

Now, children of God will inherit earth without any children of the flesh. This too must tip the scales on earth, even further over to the side of wisdom.


Galatians: 4 KJV NT,
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
There was separation of Abraham two sons, one was a child of God and he would inherited. The other was a child of the flesh and he would not inherit, he would be cast out. This was allegory. It exemplified what will happen to everyone, everywhere. It applies generally:

At all events, like with the example of Abraham's two sons, children of the flesh will be cast out of the surface of earth, leaving only children of God to inherit the surface of earth, in the fullness of time.

Those (the great masses) who did not find the strait gate and narrow way are children of the flesh, they will be out of earth now. They will not stay on earth. Children of God are the few who found the strait gate and narrow way. Only children of God will inherit the surface of earth, now.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
This is how they will be cast out:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
It is inevitable, the surface of earth must now be wiser and better. This means that one must get at least a little bit wiser to stay here.

In fact, it seems that one must be among the few who find the strait gate and narrow way, no later than now. It is truly a bad time to be standing with more than a few.

Luke: 8 KJV N.T.
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
To be buried in the earth with one's physical body is to have both, one's soul and body destroyed. Mourn not for those who have already gone the wrong way. Instead save thy self. Then one might be able to help those who were misled and went the wrong way.

Indeed, my friends:

Proverb: 27 KJV
5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
7 The full soul loatheth an honeycomb; but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.

click here on the little blue box with the little arrow for:
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

Muires
October 20th, 2015, 05:19 PM
Pretty fanatic stuff. Never quite got all that from the Bible. We all want the suffering to end, no doubt. Seems to me that reading end times messages in a 2000 year old text is only adding to the fear.

musterion
October 20th, 2015, 05:23 PM
Pretty fanatic stuff. Never quite got all that from the Bible. We all want the suffering to end, no doubt. Seems to me that reading end times messages in a 2000 year old text is only adding to the fear.

What does 'other' mean?

aikido7
October 20th, 2015, 05:30 PM
This is critically importance. The reality on the surface of earth is not the same. It changed seriously at the end of September, 2015, through a new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

The Old Age of Pisces, which was anchored on physicality, has ended. The New Age of Aquarius, which is anchored on Spirituality, has dawned.

If one remains 'entangled' with the Old reality (which is Peter oriented) one will be teleported out of here.

If one is not 'entangled' with the new reality (which is Paul oriented) one will be 'teleported' out of here.

We are in the fullness of time. Now children of God (i.e. obedient spiritually aware people/Paul's people) will inherit earth without children of the flesh (i.e. spiritually dead people/Peter's people).

Serious separation which will see billions simply disappearing off the surface of earth through 'teleporting'. This is pending.

What to do to be saved and delivered? The answer is here:


*'Teleportation', 'entanglement', 'black hole portal' and 'dimensions' are terms which describe valid scientific events, situations and/or circumstances in Quantum physics. Do as Jesus told us. Help him bring the Kingdom of God "on earth" and help God bring about a loving, just and morally clean human household.

You can call it New Age, Islam or Christianity.

I see it as a divine, forever evolving, constant in the world.

Gurucam
October 20th, 2015, 05:34 PM
Pretty fanatic stuff. Never quite got all that from the Bible. We all want the suffering to end, no doubt. Seems to me that reading end times messages in a 2000 year old text is only adding to the fear.

People talk of things being left out of or erroneous in, the KJV N.T.

This is not so. Everything is intact and available in the KJV N.T.

Simply reading my post with an open mind can open truth to one and deliver one from those dooms day prophesies.

Gurucam
October 20th, 2015, 05:40 PM
Do as Jesus told us. Help him bring the Kingdom of God "on earth" and help God bring about a loving, just and morally clean human household.

You can call it New Age, Islam or Christianity.

Very strange words to accredit to the Lord . . . . Where did the Lord say that? You seem to be making up things and seeking to pass them off as coming from the Lord. You seem to be bearing false witness on the Lord.


I see it as a divine constant in the world.

To believe that all persons are favored and will be counted is fine. However that cannot be passed off as Christianity. That is someone going about his own righteousness and seeking to pass that of as Christianity. That will lead innocent and unsuspecting aspiring Christians into a misguided and erroneous sense of security and to err. Also by seeking to pass that off as Christianity, such a one is serving the Antichrist. Is this what you are suggesting and/or doing?

The Lord Jesus confirmed many time and unequivocally that there will be separation. And only a chosen few will come onto God's kingdom:

Galatians: 4 KJV NT,
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
There was separation of Abraham two sons, one was a child of God and he would inherited. The other was a child of the flesh and he would not inherit, he would be cast out. This was allegory. It exemplified what will happen to everyone, everywhere. It applies generally:

At all events, like with the example of Abraham's two sons, children of the flesh will be cast out of the surface of earth, leaving only children of God to inherit the surface of earth, in the fullness of time.

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Fact is, the Lord confirmed that only a few will be chosen. Only a few will find the strait gate and narrow way. If you want to assist the Lord you cannot deny and undermine these revelations and simply replace it with some thing nice sounding which will make you popular.

These revelations are given for serious and critical Christian edification.

It is better to face the truth as confirmed by the Lord than to make up your nice sounding doctrines and seek to pass them out as coming from the Lord. Leave that 'work' for false prophets who came in Jesus' name, to do. That will certainly not, "Help him bring the Kingdom of God 'on earth'". That will only misled all people who take you seriously and lead them to err and failure to be chosen.

Aikido7, you said, "Do as Jesus told us. Help him bring the Kingdom of God "on earth" and help God bring about a loving, just and morally clean human household."

I am suspecting that some naive little old lady told you that so as to bring you to good behavior on her terms. The sad truth is that there are lots of people upholding morally clean household. They are upholding the Ten Commandments. However that is not going to get them saved and delivered. That will work against them.

Please show the light, if there is any in your statement.

As far as I discern, Jesus does not endorse the Ten Commandments. In fact he liberates one from the curse of the law. Those who believe in the Lord are not simply free to transgress the law they are justified to transgress the law. It is their divine right to transgress the law. Therefore, precisely what 'morally clean human' position are you referring too?

Acts 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
9 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Clearly you are under the law. However Christians are not under the law. All laws including the Ten Commandments, wages war against Christianity . . . do you know what this means?

Indeed what 'morally clean human' position do you want Christian to embrace, in the name of the Lord Jesus? What moral position are you pushing in the name of Christianity and the Lord Jesus?

Aikido7, you also said: You can call it New Age, Islam or Christianity.

Islam is not Christianity. Islam is not anything near to Christianity. Islam is anchored on the law. Christianity is anchored on God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law when one is led by the Spirit.

Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if you be led of the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Islam is anchored on righteousness of God that is with the law. Christianity is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the law.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
I am concerned that you might be some kind of false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

Old Testament people (i.e. people who esteemed the law) denied, persecuted, blaspheme, relegated and aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus who was their messiah. The Lord came to introduce righteousness of God that was without the law and they did not like that idea.

That would have displace those O.T. leaders and rulers. So they denied, persecuted, blaspheme, relegated and aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus.

That sin has not been revenged, yet.

. . . continued on the next post

Gurucam
October 21st, 2015, 03:47 AM
. . . continued from previous post

Aikido7, Christians are led by the Spirit and therefore not under the law. Are you claiming that Christians are under the law? That is an unforgivable sin.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God (Christians).
2000 odd years ago, Old Testament people (i.e. people who esteemed the law) denied, persecuted, blaspheme, relegated and aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus who was their messiah.

2000 odd years ago, the Lord came to introduce righteousness of God that was without the law. This is the basis of Christianity. The Lord came to introduce Christianity. Christians are not Old Testament people. Christians are New Testament people, they are not under the law. Christians are people who are under righteousness of God that is without the law. This is what the Lord came among those people, to introduce and do.

However those Old Testament people (especially the elite among them) did not like that idea. That would have displace those O.T. leaders and rulers. So they denied, persecuted, blaspheme, relegated and aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus.

Since then, anyone who seek to return Christians to bondage under the law, is simply denying, persecuting, blaspheming, relegating and crucifying the Lord Jesus, all over again and again and again. This a very serious sin that is not forgivable at any place or time. One who does this becomes a permanent enemy of the Lord Jesus and all divine being in spirit heaven.

Aikido7, Are you doing this absolutely unforgivable sinful action? This is blasphemy of the Spirit. Blasphemy of the Spirit is the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time.

Are you aware that seeking to return Christians to bondage under the law is also denial and blasphemy of the Spirit. And that is not forgivable at any place or time. That is also denial and blasphemy of the following Spirit based revelation:

Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if you be led of the Spirit, you are not under the law.
If you claim that Christians are under the law you are denying and blaspheming the Spirit. That sin is not forgivable at any place or time. That sin can and will earn one permanent enmity with the Lord Jesus and all other divine being and a one way ticket to hell.

Matthews: 12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Routinely, the great majority of aspiring Christians (billions) claim that Christians must be and are under the law. They do not realize that that is blasphemy of the Spirit and that act will not be forgiven at any place or time. This is why many (billions) are called and only a few chosen.

The very great majority simply commit the unforgivable act of blasphemy of the Spirit.

He who "speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come". Such an act, earns one a one way ticket to hell, for all eternity

Are you doing this Aikido7? Are you claiming that Christians are under the law? Are you therefore denying and blaspheming the Lord and the Spirit?

Are you flying in the face of the Lord Jesus? Are you actively denying the Lord? Are you denying and blaspheming what they Lord established on earth under a commission that was rendered onto Paul? Are you doing these things while falsely presenting yourself as a loyal follower of the Lord?

Such people are know as Satan. They are also known as 'false prophets who came in Jesus' name'. Billions of aspiring Christians do this routinely. They therefore err and are not chosen. They are Satan and also 'false prophets who came in Jesus' name.

'Aikido7, Are you among these unfortunate people?

aikido7
October 21st, 2015, 06:08 AM
I hold these thoughts and beliefs about my faith journey...

--I like to read what is actually IN the Bible.
--Then I endeavor to understand what the verse or passage meant to its original authors.
--Then I look for evidence that tells me how its original readers and listeners would have read and heard.
--And then--and only then--can I hope to apply the timeless truths to my own place and time.

I take both faith and history seriously:

"Jesus was a man" is to me a plain statement of FACT.
"Jesus was the Messiah," is "Son of God" or "virgin born" are statements of FAITH.

I see the Bible as a human product in the sense that the idea of men transcribing the actual auditory "voice of God" makes no sense to me.
I see the gospel authors as real people, not parrots or Ouija Boards.

I have found the Bible to contain actual remembered history, many different strands of oral and written traditions, poetry, hymns, legends, metaphors and magic. I like to follow those experts who have spent lifetimes studying and recognizing those diverse strands of genre and have isolated them and categorized them.

First came Jesus, then the memories about him, and then the oral expression of these memories, and then writers who wrote about him, and all from a distance of 2,000 years.

What we have is not perfect but that is all we have. The earliest evidence of the Bible we use today is a tiny fragment of the Gospel of John that was believed to be from around 200 AD (CE).

We are doomed to read a copy of a copy of many other copies.

The norm of the Bible is Jesus. He taught "all" in parables and pithy, one-liners.
He did not speak in propositional theology because he was a wandering teacher, not a theologian. It was the later theologians who were driven by their own agendas and wrote about a Jesus congenial to them.

My faith life has been to study Jesus' teachings instead of studying the beliefs and dogma ABOUT him. The gospel writers put their own speech and theology back into Jesus' mouth when they wrote their biographies. The modern notion of a historical biography was unknown to ancient writers.

I am content in by beliefs, knowing that my life has been a serious of incidents where the rug was suddenly pulled out from underneath me many times.
I have grown to love the shock and the sudden realization that I am confronting something wholly new and have to accommodate myself to it.

I also no longer feel I have to leave my brain outside the door of the church whenever I worship. I have a faith that is built on common sense but also allows for the beautiful poetry and metaphors to stir my soul.

Gurucam
October 21st, 2015, 08:46 AM
What does 'other' mean?

Musterion, 'Other' relates to Quantum Physics. To be left behind in Quantum Physics is to be left out of the Spirit Age.

The current time on the surface of earth is important because three things, which support higher levels/states of human consciousness, have converged on the surface of planet earth:

1.) the current alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies, which precipitated the Spiritual Age of Aquarius (on the surface of earth).

2.) the scientific confirmation of the mechanics or matrix of the quantum/spirit realm

3.) the past efforts and works of all spiritually aware humans on earth.

Quantum physicists have validate the existence of parallel dimension, some of which are identical to this earth but also different.

- they have also confirmed that people are inexplicably entangled with their actions, their ideas beliefs and interests.

- they have also validated that people are inexplicably entangled to other destinations that are out of earth and more intricately conformed to their ideas, beliefs and interests.

- they have also validated that people are inexplicably entangled with the result of any action which they promote and/or take.

- they have confirmed the existence of 'black holes.

- they have come to reasonable knowledge of the matrix for creating 'black hole.

- they have also validated teleportation.

:idea: Teleportation, through a 'black hole', to 'another parallel dimension (or parallel earth)', closely resemble the fullness of time event described in the following:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
This event is described as teleportation (through a 'black hole' to another parallel dimension.

Therefore modern Quantum scientists have now scientifically confirmed the tangibility or realness of what was widely perceived to be miracle (or unreal) sounding events and things in the KJV N.T. which relate to fullness of time events.

This is one way in which truth is confirmed with absolute clarity, in the fullness of time, for all to know. The expected fullness of time events and things mentioned in the KJV N.T. are no longer simply fairy-tale stories for the masses. The proof of their realness is available in a format that all can recognize. Also this was done through the medium (i.e. Modern Science) that was the widely recognized source for truth for the past 2000 odd years on earth. This development is fulfillment of fullness of time prophesy.

This means that the fullness of time is at hand.

When this is added to the fact that the Spiritual Age of Aquarius is dominating the surface of earth this adds further confirmation that the fullness of time is at hand.

Confirmation that the fullness of time is at hand is also supported by the fact that a critical mass was reached among spiritually aware people on earth. Indeed for the past 70 years or so, hundreds of millions, large multitudes of potentially spiritually people, from none spiritual traditions, have come onto Old spiritual traditions and spirituality generally. They have brought a critical mass to their kind (i.e. spiritually aware people), on the surface of earth.

Indeed the fullness of time is at hand, on earth's surface. The fullness of time event in the above KJV N.T. revelation must occur any time soon. Also we can expect all other dooms day prophesies to be experienced soon.

. . . continued on next post

Gurucam
October 21st, 2015, 01:26 PM
. . . continued from previous post

Musterion, Quantum physicists have confirmed that parallel/other earths exist.

You have asked, What does 'other' mean? You should and must have that critically important knowledge. The answer is to be found in Quantum Physics.

You should seek out modern quantum field knowledge. The quantum field is actually the spirit dimension where The Lord Jesus, angels and other divine being live. They also operate from this quantum level/dimension.

It is there (in that quantum field), that the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, is seated on the right side of the Holy Spirit.

Click here for, layman, easy to view, Quantum Physics information:

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=quantum+mechanics+&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

Then Click on the video: "Quantum Mechanics(full documentary)HD"

This an easy to look at video by Brian Greene, entitle 'the fabric of the creation'.

All these terms, 'parallel dimensions/other earths/parallel earths', 'black holes', 'entanglement and 'teleportation are explained and visually demonstrated, in full HD color, in this video. These terms name and describe actual events and situations as discerned and validated by Quantum physicists.

The video is a compilation of the actual works and discoveries of many major world renowned quantum physicists, led by Brian Greene.

It is an expensively made and full color HD video. It is lovingly provided for your modern scientific edification. The time to know is at hand. The time to be misinformed and/or kept in darkness (and physicality) by the likes of Peter & Co. and other spiritually dead people, has ended.

Please come on board.

One might say that this an invitation to board, "Noah's Ark" of the current time. This ark has no physical dimension or any physicality. It is all subjective and spiritual. Indeed it is all "Quantum". Survival is anchored only on subjective quantum/spiritual actualization.

Big money, bribes and/or traditional connections, will not be legal or other tender here.

If one has diligently and correctly done the necessary work which leads to spiritual awareness, one's ticket to board this ('not seen', Quantum/Spirit) Ark is automatically, effortlessly and magically assured every and any where on earth.

Indeed transportation out of here will be by "teleportation" (i.e. spooky disappearance) as described here:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Musterion, The surfacing of the Lost Gospel of Thomas: Unknown Teachings of Yeshua is another confirmation that the fullness of time and the unprecedented dawning of a Spiritual Age is at hand on the surface of earth. This is the 4th one mentioned here.

Click here for further edification:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5MFF2UNB4

None of these events stand on their own. Only the absolutely spiritually dead can and will deny all these event.

Gurucam
October 21st, 2015, 01:47 PM
I hold these thoughts and beliefs about my faith journey...

--I like to read what is actually IN the Bible.
--Then I endeavor to understand what the verse or passage meant to its original authors.
--Then I look for evidence that tells me how its original readers and listeners would have read and heard.
--And then--and only then--can I hope to apply the timeless truths to my own place and time.

I take both faith and history seriously:

"Jesus was a man" is to me a plain statement of FACT.
"Jesus was the Messiah," is "Son of God" or "virgin born" are statements of FAITH.

I see the Bible as a human product in the sense that the idea of men transcribing the actual auditory "voice of God" makes no sense to me.
I see the gospel authors as real people, not parrots or Ouija Boards.

I have found the Bible to contain actual remembered history, many different strands of oral and written traditions, poetry, hymns, legends, metaphors and magic. I like to follow those experts who have spent lifetimes studying and recognizing those diverse strands of genre and have isolated them and categorized them.

First came Jesus, then the memories about him, and then the oral expression of these memories, and then writers who wrote about him, and all from a distance of 2,000 years.

What we have is not perfect but that is all we have. The earliest evidence of the Bible we use today is a tiny fragment of the Gospel of John that was believed to be from around 200 AD (CE).

We are doomed to read a copy of a copy of many other copies.

The norm of the Bible is Jesus. He taught "all" in parables and pithy, one-liners.
He did not speak in propositional theology because he was a wandering teacher, not a theologian. It was the later theologians who were driven by their own agendas and wrote about a Jesus congenial to them.

My faith life has been to study Jesus' teachings instead of studying the beliefs and dogma ABOUT him. The gospel writers put their own speech and theology back into Jesus' mouth when they wrote their biographies. The modern notion of a historical biography was unknown to ancient writers.

I am content in by beliefs, knowing that my life has been a serious of incidents where the rug was suddenly pulled out from underneath me many times.
I have grown to love the shock and the sudden realization that I am confronting something wholly new and have to accommodate myself to it.

I also no longer feel I have to leave my brain outside the door of the church whenever I worship. I have a faith that is built on common sense but also allows for the beautiful poetry and metaphors to stir my soul.

Seems that all of the above is lettered discernment which killeth.

We are looking for life and light here. Only the Spirit giveth life.

At any event, after doing all of the above (i.e. your thing), please post, in modern English, precisely what does the following say to you:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Also, after doing all of the above (i.e. your thing), please post, in modern English, precisely what these other four revelations from the KJV N.T. say to you:
1.
Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.
2.
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
3.
1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
What do these revelations say to you? These revelations from the KJV N.T. seem to seriously and clearly contradict the path which you are using and recommending for obtaining truth and others things of God's

Clearly you are using your natural man (i.e. the physical faculties of your physical body) to obtain Truth and other things of God. The KJV N.T. clearly confirms that Truth and other things of God can be had only Spiritually, i.e, through the faculties of one's spirit or heart.

The spiritual way seems to be:
4.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
This is meditation. This requires an internal search. A search within one's own heart or spirit.

Yours seems to be the Satanic and physical way and it killeth. Yours is an external search. Yours is totally contrary to Christianity. Romans: 8 verse: 27 of the KJV N.T. confirms the spiritual way and only the spiritual way giveth life.

It is the curse of the very great majority of those called to Christianity to use the Satanic or lettered way to get truth and the other things of God. This is why they all err and only a few are chosen.

It is never too late to correct your Satanic inclinations and Satanic ways . . . if so be it.

Luke 17 KJV N.T.
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Why are you looking for things of God in the absolutely wrong place and arrogantly admitting and promoting your erroneous ways? Things of God comes from God and He is in His kingdom of heaven within you. It is not outside. It is within you.

Romans: 8 verse: 27 of the KJV N.T. confirms that the search for Truth and all other things of God require you to search your heart within yourself (this is where the kingdom of God exists and this is where God exists) . . . and this is where you will get All Truth and all other things of God.

You are denying the spiritual path. That is not forgivable at any place or time. Hell is the destination for such blasphemers.

You seems determined to drag as many as you can to hell, with you.

Romans: 8 KJV NB.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if you be led of the Spirit, you are not under the law (or the letter).
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 . . . . for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Aikido7, clearly you are spiritually dead (you are not aware of or interested in the Spirit and spirit way which giveth life). Also you are Antichrist (you are openly dismissing the Lord's Spiritual commission which was rendered onto only Paul). Finally you are a man of the letter and the Old Testament ways. Of course that can very easily make you a Jew or some other Old Testament person, simply masquerading as a Christian . . . a spy as mentioned in:
Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares* brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:* "unawares" means spiritually dead or unaware of one's spirit. 'the liberty which Christians have' is a God given justification to transgress the Ten Commandments and not get sin but instead be glorified by God when one is led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

The verse (i.e. Galatians: 2 verse: 4 KJV N.T. above) is confirming that: . . . Christians have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the Ten Commandments because they are led by the Spirit. However spiritually dead people pretended to be Christians so as to come among them to bring them under bondage of the Ten Commandments.

Aikido7, the above was reported 2000 odd years ago. You have to let that go. Clearly, this is what you are doing, today in 2015. You are absolutely no different from the Old Testament people who denied, persecuted, blasphemed, tortured, undermined, relegated and then aided the murder of the Lord. Those kind of people are the unawares mentioned in Galatians: 2 verse: 4 KJV N.T. above. You are a serious and terminal danger to yourself and anyone who takes you seriously.

If you like what you are doing then please do not identify with Christianity. That simply makes you a false prophet who came in Jesus' name. Instead, you could easily fit in with any of the traditions which use your approach and also esteem and seek to uphold the Old Testament.

Many Old Testament traditions exits. However they are not Christian traditions. They are lettered and law oriented.

Gurucam
October 22nd, 2015, 03:40 PM
Aikido7, Please awaken to truth.

The last private delivery which the Lord Jesus made to his disciple, before his crucifixion when as follows:

John: 16
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

This is the Lord, Himself, confirming that he did not reveal all truth to His disciples when he was with them in a human physical body. Therefore the physically spoken words of the Lord Jesus as recorded in the written scriptures (the letters) does not have all Truth. Indeed many things would not be found in those words.

The Lord, Himself, is confirming here that 'All Truth' comes only from the Spirit of Truth . . . and this Spirit was made available only after his crucifixion and rise to heaven.

Then Paul confirmed: Search your heart to know what is the mind of the Spirit.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Why would you be searching and dissecting the KJV N.T. to find truth?

Clearly you do not even read the KJV N.T. You probably got all scriptures from your priest or leader who was clearly a false prophet.

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
Matthew: 24 KJV N.T.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
You err badly. Those who err are not chosen. They cannot be and are not Christian.

The very great majority of the billions called to Christianity are misled (by false prophets). Therefore they err and are not chosen. Only a few make it.

Indeed,
Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 . . . . for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. Don't you want life, Aikido7?

Are you aware now, of your sad and very unfortunate predicament or are you going to continue with your foolish ways?

Do you need more KJV N.T. revelations which confirm the serious errors of your ways??

Are you going to continue to deny, persecute and blaspheme the Lord Jesus and the KJV N.T. and proudly 'big up' yourself, as usual?

The Lord confirmed:
Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.Clearly he came to put a sword between the likes of you and the few who are chosen.

You are a sad and unfortunate victim of those Old Testament people who want to destroy the Lord Jesus and His Spirit & spirit based Christian tradition. Judgment day is at hand. Go back to your Old Testament people and see if they can help you in any way. You have served them.

The sad fact is the the Lord confirmed that all under the law, fall short of the glory of God. It ain't nice to have served on that side and to be on that side.

I could not treat you any gentler, given the potency and level of toxic manure that you had buried yourself, under. I hope that you have climb out.

Please tell me, have you seen the errors of your ways. Or have I totally wasted my time and effort?

Gurucam
October 22nd, 2015, 05:33 PM
Is there a correlation between the many reported sink holes which are appearing on the surface of earth everywhere and 'black holds' related to the work of our modern 'particle accelerating' physicists, with their 'particle accelerating' machine?

Are these 'sink holes' the early expression of 'black hole portals' through which people can and will be 'teleported' to the depths of earth, where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine?
Joel: 3 KJV
15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Some believe that Israel will exist again, as a nation, before the coming to earth of the Lord. Jesus. . . . this is nothing to doubt.

However, Israel are Old Testament people who cannot be on earth now that the Spiritual Age of Aquarius is ruling the surface of earth. The surface of the earth is now suited to New Testament people. Also it is not reasonable for Israelite to be here when the Lord returns because these people denied, persecuted, blasphemed, torture and relegated the Lord Jesus, then aided his crucifixion. . . . and the Lord Jesus was their God promised messiah.

Fact is nothing is ever destroyed . . . . not even Israel and the people of Israel. And expectations must be fulfilled. However the Lord reserved vengeance. Therefore, Israel will exist again, as a nation, before the coming to earth of the Lord but not in this earth dimension. Israelite and all other Old Testament people cannot be here in the current Spiritual Age of Aquarius or with the Lord Jesus who they denied, persecuted, blasphemed, torture and relegated, then aided his crucifixion.

The people of Israel will be teleported to a parallel earth where a perfect replica of Israel exists but were the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine. However they will not recognize this move because that parallel earth will be same in all other ways as earth. They will simply but falsely perceive that this earth has gone through 'fullness of time', dooms day events and so became that darkened place.

Fact is that parallel earth was always in that dark state. It is hell, within the depths of earth. This is where those who promoted and paid lip service to the Ten Commandments but did not uphold those commands, have consistently gone for millenniums. It is their after death place.

The surface of earth, which is now in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, will not be touched. The surface of earth will only get better and better after Old Testament people are teleported out of here. Soon the people of Israel will simply be moved (teleported) in one fell sweep, to another parallel cataclysmic earth which would be another dimension that would be within the depths of earth . . . and precisely suited to their ideas and beliefs.

This parallel earth is more suited to them and their Old Testament ideas of the law, sin and dark punishment in hell. They will simply be teleported to a parallel earth that is perfectly entangled with their Old Testament ideologies of the law, sin, punishment and hell . . . et all.

All the people of Israel will be in an earth that has only Old Testament people. All Old Testament people will be teleported to that parallel earth. They will be teleported out of the surface of the earth which is now entangled with the New Testament and Christianity which is spirit and Spirit based.

Therefore, take heed, these 'sink holes' might just be the first stages of 'black hole' portals through which those Old Testament people will be teleported to the depths of earth according to:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

These are the people who denied, persecuted, blasphemed, torture and relegated the Lord Jesus and then aided his crucifixion.

How indeed can they perceive that they will be ones present when the Lord returns. They are simply misinterpreting the KJV N.T in an unfortunate, naive, wishful and simplistic manner.

. . . . indeed those with ears, let them hear.

aikido7
October 22nd, 2015, 09:49 PM
Seems that all of the above is lettered discernment which killeth.

We are looking for life and light here. Only the Spirit giveth life.

At any event, after doing all of the above (i.e. your thing), please post, in modern English, precisely what does the following say to you:

Also, after doing all of the above (i.e. your thing), please post, in modern English, precisely what these other four revelations from the KJV N.T. say to you:
1.
2.
3.
What do these revelations say to you? These revelations from the KJV N.T. seem to seriously and clearly contradict the path which you are using and recommending for obtaining truth and others things of God's

Clearly you are using your natural man (i.e. the physical faculties of your physical body) to obtain Truth and other things of God. The KJV N.T. clearly confirms that Truth and other things of God can be had only Spiritually, i.e, through the faculties of one's spirit or heart.

The spiritual way seems to be:
4.
This is meditation. This requires an internal search. A search within one's own heart or spirit.

Yours seems to be the Satanic and physical way and it killeth. Yours is an external search. Yours is totally contrary to Christianity. Romans: 8 verse: 27 of the KJV N.T. confirms the spiritual way and only the spiritual way giveth life.

It is the curse of the very great majority of those called to Christianity to use the Satanic or lettered way to get truth and the other things of God. This is why they all err and only a few are chosen.

It is never too late to correct your Satanic inclinations and Satanic ways . . . if so be it.

Why are you looking for things of God in the absolutely wrong place and arrogantly admitting and promoting your erroneous ways? Things of God comes from God and He is in His kingdom of heaven within you. It is not outside. It is within you.

Romans: 8 verse: 27 of the KJV N.T. confirms that the search for Truth and all other things of God require you to search your heart within yourself (this is where the kingdom of God exists and this is where God exists) . . . and this is where you will get All Truth and all other things of God.

You are denying the spiritual path. That is not forgivable at any place or time. Hell is the destination for such blasphemers.

You seems determined to drag as many as you can to hell, with you.


Aikido7, clearly you are spiritually dead (you are not aware of or interested in the Spirit and spirit way which giveth life). Also you are Antichrist (you are openly dismissing the Lord's Spiritual commission which was rendered onto only Paul). Finally you are a man of the letter and the Old Testament ways. Of course that can very easily make you a Jew or some other Old Testament person, simply masquerading as a Christian . . . a spy as mentioned in: * "unawares" means spiritually dead or unaware of one's spirit. 'the liberty which Christians have' is a God given justification to transgress the Ten Commandments and not get sin but instead be glorified by God when one is led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

The verse (i.e. Galatians: 2 verse: 4 KJV N.T. above) is confirming that: . . . Christians have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the Ten Commandments because they are led by the Spirit. However spiritually dead people pretended to be Christians so as to come among them to bring them under bondage of the Ten Commandments.

Aikido7, the above was reported 2000 odd years ago. You have to let that go. Clearly, this is what you are doing, today in 2015. You are absolutely no different from the Old Testament people who denied, persecuted, blasphemed, tortured, undermined, relegated and then aided the murder of the Lord. Those kind of people are the unawares mentioned in Galatians: 2 verse: 4 KJV N.T. above. You are a serious and terminal danger to yourself and anyone who takes you seriously.

If you like what you are doing then please do not identify with Christianity. That simply makes you a false prophet who came in Jesus' name. Instead, you could easily fit in with any of the traditions which use your approach and also esteem and seek to uphold the Old Testament.

Many Old Testament traditions exits. However they are not Christian traditions. They are lettered and law oriented. You answered me out of the whirlwind of men's theology.

Jesus taught in parables. He taught ALL in parables. Anytime he is caught teaching in propositional theology or is speaking the dogma of the early church, he is not walking his talk. Theology in Jesus' mouth is the creation of writers who wrote their accounts after his death. They were inspired to interpret the Word(s) of God.
The finite can never hope to fully realize the infinite.

Jesus has suddenly and unwittingly become the spokesman for his later writers' own agendas.

I liked it when God answered Job out of the whirlwind with a humble lesson by describing natural history.

The Bible is--to be blunt--a collection of interpretations and opinions about the divine through history.

It has contradictory traditions, theologies and interpretations.
It comes from collections of manuscripts--whole and partial--that were written in Greek, copied many times, edited many times, and copied and copied and copied--the copying the result of putting out copies of copies.

And this entire process comes to rest in our local Christian bookstores, where they sell a diversity of OTHER translations, copies and versions of the collection of writings we call the Bible.


Aikido7, clearly you are spiritually dead You should have seen me after my clinical treatment yesterday. I was certainly "dead" on all fronts!

Gurucam
October 23rd, 2015, 03:02 AM
You answered me out of the whirlwind of men's theology.

Jesus taught in parables. He taught ALL in parables. Anytime he is caught teaching in propositional theology or is speaking the dogma of the early church, he is not walking his talk. Theology in Jesus' mouth is the creation of writers who wrote their accounts after his death. They were inspired to interpret the Word(s) of God.
The finite can never hope to fully realize the infinite.

Jesus has suddenly and unwittingly become the spokesman for his later writers' own agendas.

I liked it when God answered Job out of the whirlwind with a humble lesson by describing natural history.

The Bible is--to be blunt--a collection of interpretations and opinions about the divine through history.

It has contradictory traditions, theologies and interpretations.
It comes from collections of manuscripts--whole and partial--that were written in Greek, copied many times, edited many times, and copied and copied and copied--the copying the result of putting out copies of copies.

And this entire process comes to rest in our local Christian bookstores, where they sell a diversity of OTHER translations, copies and versions of the collection of writings we call the Bible.

You should have seen me after my clinical treatment yesterday. I was certainly "dead" on all fronts!

You are sadly mistaken. You have anchored your belief and life on error (misunderstanding). This is probably why "after your clinical treatment yesterday, you were certainly "dead" on all fronts! I would suspect that the major cause of your physical illness is operating behind the scenes. This is your strong and deluded ego which gives rise to arrogance, inflexibility and hardness (on your self in particular). If you over ride these you can have a spontaneous recovery. 'You have to let go and let God'. Do you know that this approach to healing (i.e. spontaneous healing) is validated as a scientific fact, by modern scientists over and over again. It is called dis-entanglement. They practise it routinely in their experiments. However Medical practitioners are denying their patients this approach to healing.

You have to start with a meditation technique which will effectively lead you to silence all your though. This is necessary because your thoughts are anchored on foolishness and wrong information. This is how you let go. Then the Spirit of God will simply surface and operate through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus from within your own heart or spirit and fix up all things in your life. This is how you let God.

You will notice that this is only about your spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It is all spirit. This is absolutely not about the written scriptures, manuscripts, Greek/English dictionaries, history, the law, sin or hell, the physical Lord Jesus and all those other things with which you are preoccupied.

It is only by going through your own spirit and communing with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, within your own spirit, that you can access and harness Truth, which can heal and deliver you. There is no other way. This is the actual mystery of God's kingdom of heaven.

Fact is Truth can quite literally set you free and deliver you from ill-health. Therefore if you are not free of ill-health then you do not have truth in your life, i.e. your ideas and beliefs are not truth.

Fact is the things which you say above are not founded on truth. You have been grossly misguided and that could be your most major problem which leads to all your other problems.

You are fighting your battles from your weakest level of unawareness. However, within you (i.e. through your own heart or spirit), there exist an eternal and unlimited powerful resource which can very effortlessly remove and/or solve all your problems.

You have to first get scriptures right. Scriptures is not an end onto it self. Scripture simply give the instruction as to where and how one can commune with and/or tap that eternal and unlimited powerful resource through one's own individual heart or spirit.

Clearly you have neglected or relegated your spirit or heart side by focusing on the letter or lettered discernment. Fact is the letter or lettered discernment killeth spiritual awareness. It is only through spiritual awareness that one can commune with and tap into that eternal and unlimited powerful resource which can very effortlessly remove and/or solve all your problems, health and other.

You must open yourself to truth and not arrogantly hold misguided ideas as your truth. Fact is, you are in your current predicament because you were not informed enough to manage your own immediate heath properly. You, by imposing you own misguided ideas on yourself, have tripped up your own effortless, inherently divine, internal and perfect management system of your body. This is the 'work' of one's over inflated ego.

Now you want to teach and promote your obviously failed misguided ideas to others. You cannot be a teacher, look at where your ideas and beliefs have taken you. At best you have to be very open to new ideas. You have to be a humble learner.

Your first blasphemy is your claim: "Jesus taught in parables. He taught ALL in parables." You are bearing false witness. Your mouth is denying truth. You act carelessly and utter deceptions. This is careless self denial to win your deluded point. This behavior would certainly affect your health, negatively.

Clearly you do not read the KJV N.T., however you are presenting yourself as some authority. This big time deception.

Jesus did not speak in parables at all time. Nor did he speak in parables to every one.

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
The above revelation confirmed that the Lord met and delivered to two types of people.

1.) He delivered the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven to only one set because only they were given by God to know these mysteries. The revelation above confirmed that these people did not get parables. They got the plain truth.

2.) To the other set the Lord gave parables, because they were not given, by God, to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Therefore parable would not in any way contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Some people believe that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are hidden in parables . . . fact is the Lord simply would not deny and defy God, His Father. The Lord would not hide these mysteries in the parables which he gave to this set of people, \ when they were not given by God to know these mysteries.

According to the above revelations there were two different sets of people who the Lord met and delivered to as follows:

1.) The first set were: those who had the 'eyes to see', 'ears to hear' and 'hearts to understand'. This meant that they were spiritually aware people. They were 'born again'. They were born of spirit. They were not 'the dead'.

Only these people were given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These were just a few people from among the multitudes of people who Jesus encountered and delivered too. These were the chosen few of that time. These were His twelve disciples.

Fact is, the revelation above confirmed that only these few got the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. The Lord Jesus did not speak in parables to these chosen few. The Lord confirmed the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven to these few people. Also the Lord delivered these mysteries to these twelve only in very private sessions among only them.

2.) The other set were not given, by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven because they did not have the 'eyes to see', 'ears to hear' and 'hearts to understand'. These were therefore 'the dead', the spiritually dead.

The revelation confirmed that because they not given, by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, the Lord gave them parables.

Therefore parables would not have the mysteries hidden in them because these people, who were given parables, were not give, by God, to know these mysteries. These were spiritually dead people. Therefore the Lord would not defy God and still hide these mysteries in parable so to give these mysteries to these undeserving people. Instead the Lord instructed, let the dead bury their dead. He simply did not give these mysteries to them.

Therefore it is totally erroneous and Antichrist to believe and promote that "Jesus taught in parables. He taught ALL in parables."

It is equally totally erroneous and Antichrist to believe and promote that 'parables contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, hidden in them. They do not.

The Lord clearly confirmed to his disciple, 'to them I gave parables but not to you all.

This means that the disciple got the pure unadulterated truth, which are the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, from Him, in very private session among only them.

Therefore if you are seeking truth, which are the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven you would be absolutely foolish and misled if you look for them in parables. Truth which are the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, would be found only in those few deliveries which the Lord made to only His disciples, in very private session among only them.

This can explain were you went wrong and why your heath is bad. These things are closely linked.

Gurucam
October 23rd, 2015, 05:17 AM
Aikido7,

You are sadly mistaken. You have anchored your belief and life on error (misunderstanding).

This is probably why "after your clinical treatment yesterday, you were certainly "dead" on all fronts!" I would suspect that the major cause of your physical illness is operating behind the scenes. This is your strong and deluded ego (we all have them). This often gives rise to arrogance, inflexibility and hardness (on oneself in particular).

One's ego is a composite of one's own intellectually derived deluded ideas and beliefs.

You seem to be esteeming your ego too strongly, this destroys you in many ways. Internally your ego, undermines, overrides and/or relegates the natural wisdom (i.e. omniscience and omnipotence) which is within you. This natural wisdom, if allowed to flow freely, can and do keep you and your physical body in perfect functionality and harmony.

If you over ride your ego you can have a spontaneous healing. 'You have to let go and let God'. This is describe as, dis-entanglement. It is the act of dis-entangling your higher truly wise self from you lower deluded self.

Do you know that this approach to healing (i.e. spontaneous healing) is validated as a scientific fact, by modern scientists over and over again. It is called dis-entanglement.

Modern scientists practice dis-entanglement routinely in their experiments. They know that everyone's ego interferes with their experiments and the results. This is called entanglement. It is spooky action at a distance or near by. It is just plain spooky.

So they dis-entangle themselves from their experiments. Their aim is to remove their own deluded ideas (i.e. their egos) from interfering with the process and out come of their scientific experiments. Their aim is to allow only natural forces of Nature (omniscience and omnipotence) to direct and determine the process and end of their experiments.

They do this by simply physically distancing themselves from the location when and where their experiment is being done. Spiritually aware people have been doing this for all eternity simply through an informed meditation practice, without removing themselves.

However, in spite of the wide spread acceptance and use of dis-entanglement in science everywhere, medical practitioners are denying their patients this approach to healing.

They do not want to admit that both you (your ego) and them (their collective egos) have conspired to make you ill, in the first pace and are now also conspiring to disrupt your spontaneous healing. (Here, for clarity of understanding, 'ego' can be replaced by 'half baked knowledge')

Fact is modern medical science is making you sick, simply by conditioning your ego with their medical 'wisdom'. Modern medical wisdom is anchored on setting up connections between actions, symptoms, diseases and treatment. These are 'hard wired' ideas. When you accept their wisdom your ego also becomes 'hard wired' with their expectations according to what they project to be connection between actions, symptoms, diseases and treatment.

Then if you are an ego driven person, then you would be left brain oriented. This would be your curse because: then, your ego will naturally spontaneously and easily undermine and override the mind of your wiser, 'field of all possibility' higher, health sustaining and health restoring, right side brain. And you will physically create and sustain all diseases according to modern medical connections between actions, symptoms, diseases and treatment.

Fact is, when you let these modern medical people into your head (i.e. when you accept their 'half baked' wisdom), they determine and rule your ego. Then your ego lead you to over ride and relegate your higher mind. Your higher mind is your, in built, omniscient and omnipotent mind. This is the mind of your right side brain. This mind can and do override all odds and sustains and/or restore your health perfectly. This is it's God given work.

When your ego or lower mind over-rides your higher mind your health prevention and health restoring mechanisms are undermined and/or destroyed. Then, diseases are create and sustained, in your physical body, according to the ideas of your ego.

The latest evidence has confirmed that modern medical science are masters of creating diseases. Simply by conditioning your ego (your left side brain) with their half baked knowledge which they label 'modern medical wisdom'. This create and sustains disease in your physical body. Then they sell you diagnoses and treatments. This is their way of life. Seems also that they will keep you sick, if you do not use their old elaborate system.

They are in charge of health care most every where. However they are in a serious conflict of interest position. Their old system keeps them relevant, employed, God like and at play. They are not moving to liberate 'healing and good health' into its natural, wiser and new modern scientific basis. This is in the realm of individual spiritual self actualization. It is subjective. They seem to fear their own extinction. This new approach will indeed undermined the status quo and privileged wealthy position of current health care providers.

This resistance to individual spiritual self actualization is not new. This liberation of individuals into spiritual self actualization, is exactly what the Lord Jesus sought to introduce 2000 odd years. However that too, would have undermined the status quo and privileged position of wealthy Old Testament rulers, back then. Therefore these Old Testament rulers opposed the Lord strongly. In fact they openly denied, persecuted, blasphemed and undermined him, then aided his murder. They believed that they had successfully run him 'out of town'.

Today, our modern medical practitioners are doing some thing similar. They are resisting new modern scientifically validate and far more superior technology for heath care. The Old human breeds always resist change which empowers a New and different bread of humans.

Our modern medical practitioners are doing, today, the same thing (either wittingly or unwittingly) which those Old Testament cronies did 2000 odd years ago.

However the undermining of spiritual self actualization cannot be contained this time around. There is now overwhelming spiritual awareness and planetary and heavenly bodies spiritual support on the surface of earth.

Spontaneous remission as a primary tool for healing is at the door step of humanity in scientifically validated terms and in full glory. Indeed the fullness of time is at hand. Our modern medical system will be totally dismantled naturally and spontaneously.

If they (our traditional medical people) do not innovate, they will also be teleported (alive while they live or dead, if they die before) to that parallel earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine. It is very natural law that every one inevitably reaches the destination of his or her own personal entanglement and disposition.

The fact that I can explain this in such clarity on this forum, testifies to the already established reign of spirituality on the surface of earth. Dis-entanglement' is the way forward.

Dis-entanglement is described as 'letting go and letting God'.

'This is how you let go and let God':

You have to start with a meditation technique which will effectively lead you to silence all your though. This is necessary because your thoughts are anchored on foolishness and wrong information. This is how you let go. Then the Spirit of God will simply surface and operate through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus from within your own heart or spirit and fix up all things in your life. This is how you let God.

You will notice that this is only about your spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It is all spirit. This is absolutely not about the written scriptures, manuscripts, Greek/English dictionaries, history, the law, sin or hell, the physical Lord Jesus and all those other things with which you are preoccupied.

Friends every one on this chosen forum need to read this post. However only a few will actually read it and fewer still will get the message . . . this is the prophesy of the Lord Jesus . . . so be it. The knowledge, it seems, must still be hidden from some.
. . . for indeed many must and will be teleported out of here and into continuing darkness which befits them.

The surface of earth is very bright under the blazing light of the glory and grace of God. There is just no room here (anymore) for the dead'.

False Prophet
October 23rd, 2015, 12:51 PM
You, 'entangled' brain, might be 'teleported' out of here. :kookoo:

lol :) :dizzy::king::ha::jump:

Gurucam
October 24th, 2015, 08:23 AM
The alternative/parallel earth where only the law, sin and punishment in hell rules, is eternally existing. Old Testament people go there all the time, after their death on this earth.

It is prophesied that all Old Testament people will be teleported (whether dead or alive) to that alternative/parallel earth, in one block, now, in the fullness of time. This is according to:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
The law, sin and punishment in hell are not separable. They exist as one connecting approach to life. It is the Old Testament approach and way of life.

You who preach the law, sin and punishment in hell, would you like to have an earth where only those ideals exist and rule? Would you like a world where only Old Testament people live and rule? Would that not be the perfect world for you guys?

Fact is God have long been obliging you guys. This is what God does. He delivers everyone, eventually and precisely into the reality which he or she preaches about and esteems. And rest assured that absolutely no one outside your belief system have been grudging or ever will begrudge you all.

Now, however, it is time for all of you Old Testament guys, whether dead or alive on earth, to go there (to that parallel O.T. earth), in one fell scoop. You Old Testament guys can no longer live on this earth. This time is at hand for you guys to go. The Spiritual Age of Aquarius is on the surface of this earth and now only New Testament guys can stay on here.

The final and total send-off from the surface of earth, for you O.T. guys, is very close at hand. You are being sent (teleported) to a parallel earth which is totally and intricately conformed to your preaching and/or beliefs. You should be celebrating. However when you reach there you will be weeping and gnashing your teeth.

You O.T. GUYS will realize that although you all boldly preached and esteemed the law, you cannot uphold them, you will sin perpetually. It is there you will realize the real time and serious punishment for your perpetual sins. Life will be perpetually hell in your parallel earth.

Hell is so bad in that parallel earth, that the light of the sun, the moon and the stars have long stopped reaching there. However when you guys first arrive there you will perceive that the light of the sun, the moon and the stars had just stop shining. You will go through all the dooms day prophesies as if these are if they are just happening. Fact is those dooms day prophesies have been long existing in that parallel earth.

However there is one consolation. There you will finding all your Old Testament peers, family members, relatives and acquaintances. However, there, you will also find all your O.T. enemies who have died on earth. Indeed you will find all those Old Testament people who you all have killed in holy or other wars between your different sects.

All Old Testament people, who ever died on this earth, have been teleported to that parallel O.T. earth. You will discover that they have not changed. They have continued to form themselves into opposing sect and they are still waging war, as usual, in that parallel earth. Also every one there continue to sin, perpetually, as usual. However punishment is instantaneous and also perpetual. This creates and sustains hell, there, perpetually.

Only now, you Old Testament people are solely on your own and among only your own kind. There are no New Testament and other spiritually aware people in that parallel earth.

This separation was on going for the past 2000 odd years. When Old Testament people died, they were all sent to that parallel earth where the law, sin and hell reigns and prevails. While, when Christians and other obedient spiritually aware people died, they all rose to be like angels in heaven.

The Lord came to put this sword of separation between Old and New Testament people. He started this practice 2000 odd years ago:

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. The fullness of time is at hand. Now each set will have their own earth which is conformed to each of their own preaching and ideologies. the O.T. people will have a parallel earth and the N.T. people (and other spiritually aware people) will stay on this earth. This is the perfect separation, solution and end. Glory be to God.

The Lord confirmed four important things related to the law, sin and punishment in hell, as follows:
1.
Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that whatsoever things the law says, it says to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Those who are not under the law were not left in limbo. 2000 odd years ago, the Lord introduced righteousness of God that is without the law. For the past 2000 odd years both approaches to God's righteousness were permitted on earth. Now only righteousness of God that is without the law is permitted on earth.
2.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
It is confirmed, also, that no sin is punishable without the law. Sin is definitely punishable for those who preach and esteem the law and they alone.
3.

Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
13 For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
It is confirmed that every one who preach and/or esteem the law will inevitable sin. Sin is imputed every where and on every one who preach and/or esteem the law:
4.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Therefore all who preach and/or esteem the law will inevitably sin and will inevitably be punished in hell.

In fact, people who preach and/or esteem the law will perpetually sin and will perpetually be punished in hell.

Would you guy who preach and/or esteem the law like to have an earth where the law, sin and punishment in hell are the only rules?

People are entangled with their preaching and what they esteem. This means that people who preach and/or esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell will inevitably end up (by themselves) in a place where the law, sin and punishment in hell are the only rules.

They will simply have it their way. God will let them have it their way. They will have a world all by themselves. They will have their world where only the law, sin and punishment in hell rules. This would be solely for them because, the Lord confirmed, whatsoever things the law says, it says to only them who are under the law

Therefore those who preach and esteem the law will all perpetually sin and all perpetually come short of the glory of God and all be perpetually in punishment in hell. Therefore, in their world, punishment in hell will reign, perpetually. Their world will be hell.

Clearly that would not be kingdom of God. That will not be God's kingdom of heaven.

Therefore you guys who preach and esteem the law will end up in a place of your choosing, with only people like yourselves. The question is: Will you all be weeping and gnashing your teeth?

Luke:13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The Lord left another choice that is based on righteousness of God that is without the law. The only way to avoid sin and so avoid punishment in hell is to adopt righteousness of God that is without the law. This is achieved through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Romans: 6 KJV N.T.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Then you will be under the Spirit and sin will have no dominion over you. And you will enter God's kingdom of heaven. This is where ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God.

If, in one's life time, one does not adopt righteousness of God that is without the law, then one is doomed. One will inevitably go to that place where, only the law, sin and punishment rules and where everyone sins perpetually and come short of the glory of God perpetually and live in punishment in hell perpetually.

2 Timoty:4
22 The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen.
The Lord Jesus is with one only through one's spirit. (Not by repeating slogans)

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

freelight
October 25th, 2015, 12:12 AM
The Lord left another choice that is based on righteousness of God that is without the law. The only way to avoid sin and so avoid punishment in hell is to adopt righteousness of God that is without the law. This is achieved through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.


Hi Gurucam,

Well, I see you're ever devoted to be the 'epitome' of ' antinomianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism) ' ;)

Its taking Paul's gospel to a frightening extreme, since you cant just do away with universal eternal laws, which are in sync with and predicated upon natural/moral laws innate within one's own 'conscience'. So, while you can drop certain man-made customs, ritual or observances if they have no real spiritual value or significance, you cannot do away, discount or reject the eternal laws innate within creation itself, which are mirrored in every soul's conscience.

Remember,...the 'new covenant' is the awakening/impression/regeneration of the laws of God within one's own heart/mind/soul, and the Spirit of God inspiring/motivating one to OBEY those laws naturally, out of LOVE. Laws and principles cant be erased away by wishful thinking,...they are integral to the very nature and movement of creation itself, which also govern the soul's condition, progress and destiny.

In this context I'm not just talking about the 'law of Moses', but cosmic laws. No one 'cult' or 'person' has a 'monopoly' on the INFINITE, neither could they !

Gurucam
October 25th, 2015, 05:13 AM
Hi Gurucam,

Well, I see you're ever devoted to be the 'epitome' of ' antinomianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism) ' ;)

Its taking Paul's gospel to a frightening extreme, since you cant just do away with universal eternal laws, which are in sync with and predicated upon natural/moral laws innate within one's own 'conscience'. So, while you can drop certain man-made customs, ritual or observances if they have no real spiritual value or significance, you cannot do away, discount or reject the eternal laws innate within creation itself, which are mirrored in every soul's conscience.

Remember,...the 'new covenant' is the awakening/impression/regeneration of the laws of God within one's own heart/mind/soul, and the Spirit of God inspiring/motivating one to OBEY those laws naturally, out of LOVE. Laws and principles cant be erased away by wishful thinking,...they are integral to the very nature and movement of creation itself, which also govern the soul's condition, progress and destiny.

In this context I'm not just talking about the 'law of Moses', but cosmic laws. No one 'cult' or 'person' has a 'monopoly' on the INFINITE, neither could they !

I have no idea about what you mentioned. Also I am not interested.

I am devoted to nothing on earth. I am not devoted, even to the things which I post on this forum, on this earth.

On earth, I am devoted only to my own spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

My physical body is simply an instrument. And the physical earth is simply a medium. Through this instrument, I post on this forum, on earth.

What I post on this forum is a perfect amalgam of my own spirit and the Holy Spirit. I obtain this perfect amalgam by communing with and being led, unconditionally by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. I discern precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for me to know, pray for say and do, within my own heart or spirit. This is what I post. I admit this openly.

You seem to want to disprove my claim. You do not seem to perceive that this is possible.

You seemed consumed with things on earth including reading and hearing the ideas of other humans. You seem to be also consumed with organizations and churches and doctrines. And you seem to believe that this is the only way to know things.

Fact is every human can stand alone with the Spirit of God. This is called spiritual self actualization. This is the fabric of Gifts of the Spirit. When one is Spiritually Gifted, one simply knows (intuitively) all there is to know about the particular subject of his Gift.

The Spirit of the Lord Jesus totally removed the need for any one to go through any human or other entity to obtain what he has to know, pray for, say and do.

It is said that, knowledge is structured in consciousness. Knowledge is not in physical books and/or physical words. Knowledge which is Truth cannot come to one through another person. This fact is confirmed by the Lord Jesus, privately to only his disciples. Pure knowledge is 'All Truth'. All Truth cone to each person individually and privately through a 'not seen' intuitive connection between the individual spirit of each person and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This Spirit passes All Truth.

I urge you to note that you can go to the source of all things, including all knowledge and All Truth, This source is not without. It is solely within:

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


Matthew: 6 KJV N.T.
33 . . . seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Where do you go to first? Where do you go first to be informed and to know what to pray for, say and do?

Do you go first to the 'epitome' of ' antinomianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism) ' ???

Please share, how do you live?

You seem committed to Sanatana Dharma.

Sanatana Dharma is not the final frontier. There are many dogmas, instructions and guide lines which humans must intellectually grasp and follow in Sanatana Dharma.

Sanatana Dharma is a living (alive) tradition. It changes to suit both the individual and collective needs of people, at any given place and time. At best Sanatana Dharma serves the generalized needs of any current Hindu population. It cannot and does not serve individuals who may have transcended the current place and time fixation of earth. It is not meant or deigned too do so.

Currently on earth, among Hindus, Sanatana Dharma is consumed with and at best limited to, the ideas and ideals exemplified by Lord Rama. At this level Sanatana Dharma is concerned only with the three Gunas. This is a very limited view and preoccupation. It is none spiritual.

This current preoccupation of Sanatana Dharma, "killeth" spiritual actualization. At this level the vast majority of Hindus are led to depend on the priest class (the Brahmins) to make spiritual intersessions on their behalf. Under current Sanatana Dharma, Hindus are not taught or encourage to become individually spiritually actualized, so as to make their own intercessions at the spirit or quantum level.

These priest class Brahmins are concerned with only the Vedas. The Vedas are concerned only with three Gunas. Lord Krishna advised Arjuna, as follows:

Bhagavat-Gita, Chapter: 2 verse: 45.
The Vedas concern is with the three Gunans. Be freed from the three Gunas, O Arjuna, freed from duality, ever firm in purity, independent of possession, possessed of self. This is the golden path.

Lord Krishna confirmed that one should not be taken in or consumed, with the ordinary brahmin priest class who currently rule supreme in 'three gunans/Vedas based' Sanatana Dharma. The Lord said:

Bhagavat-Gita, Chapter: 2 verse: 46
To the Enlightened Brahmin, all the Vedas are of no more use than is a small well in a place flooded with water on every side.

Lord Krishna exemplified a life style that is less reliance on the 'three Gunas/Vedas' Dharma of Lord Rama. Lord Krishna exemplified a life style that is more liberating and closer to bringing spirit heaven to physical expression on earth.

The commission which the Lord Jesus committed onto only Paul totally removes the need for any Dharma. This establishes a life style on earth which perfectly, totally and harmoniously brings and sustains spirit heaven to physical expression on earth, absolutely effortlessly.

Lord Rama, Lord Krishna and Lord Jesus are all 'incarnation' or human (physical bodied) expressions, of the divine, Lord Vishnu. Lord Vishnu is literally the intelligence which informs the sustaining of the creation.

In Lord Jesus we have the highest and latest expression or incarnation of Lord Vishnu. And indeed his message is correspondingly the highest and wisest, so far.

There is increasing spiritual actualization in the progression of incarnations of Lord Vishnu. This is totally accepted in Sanatana Dharma. However while Hindus accept this fact. Only some accept that the Lord Jesus was indeed an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. However even they are reluctant to recognize that the Lord Jesus is the most profound incarnation of Lord Vishnu, to grace the surface of earth, so far.

Lord Rama and Lord Krishna came into and operated in environments which, to a great extent, recognized and supported their spiritual actualization. These environments contained significant quantum of spiritually aware people.

However the Lord Jesus ventured into an environment that was down right hostile to and totally dismissive of, His spiritual actualization. The Lord Jesus ventured into an absolutely spiritually dead environment. This environment contained only a few spiritually aware persons. Yet the Lord Jesus persevere and was still able to function spiritually. The Lord Jesus had to be and clearly was more powerful. His God given mission was clearly more challenging.

The fruits of the seed which the Lord Jesus planted 2000 odd years ago has now blossomed in full glory. The surface of earth is this fullness of time. The fullness of time came to earth when very recently, the Age of Aquarius dawned on the surface of earth.

freelight
October 25th, 2015, 12:56 PM
I have no idea about what you mentioned. Also I am not interested.

I am devoted to nothing on earth. I am not devoted, even to the things which I post on this forum, on this earth.

On earth, I am devoted only to my own spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

My physical body is simply an instrument. And the physical earth is simply a medium. Through this instrument, I post on this forum, on earth.

What I post on this forum is a perfect amalgam of my own spirit and the Holy Spirit. I obtain this perfect amalgam by communing with and being led, unconditionally by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. I discern precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for me to know, pray for say and do, within my own heart or spirit. This is what I post. I admit this openly.

You seem to want to disprove my claim. You do not seem to perceive that this is possible.

You seemed consumed with things on earth including reading and hearing the ideas of other humans. You seem to be also consumed with organizations and churches and doctrines. And you seem to believe that this is the only way to know things.

Fact is every human can stand alone with the Spirit of God. This is called spiritual self actualization. This is the fabric of Gifts of the Spirit. When one is Spiritually Gifted, one simply knows (intuitively) all there is to know about the particular subject of his Gift.

The Spirit of the Lord Jesus totally removed the need for any one to go through any human or other entity to obtain what he has to know, pray for, say and do.

It is said that, knowledge is structured in consciousness. Knowledge is not in physical books and/or physical words. Knowledge which is Truth cannot come to one through another person. This fact is confirmed by the Lord Jesus, privately to only his disciples. Pure knowledge is 'All Truth'. All Truth cone to each person individually and privately through a 'not seen' intuitive connection between the individual spirit of each person and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This Spirit passes All Truth.

I urge you to note that you can go to the source of all things, including all knowledge and All Truth, This source is not without. It is solely within:




Where do you go to first? Where do you go first to be informed and to know what to pray for, say and do?

Do you go first to the 'epitome' of ' antinomianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism) ' ???

Please share, how do you live?

You seem committed to Sanatana Dharma.

Sanatana Dharma is not the final frontier. There are many dogmas, instructions and guide lines which humans must intellectually grasp and follow in Sanatana Dharma.

Sanatana Dharma is a living (alive) tradition. It changes to suit both the individual and collective needs of people, at any given place and time. At best Sanatana Dharma serves the generalized needs of any current Hindu population. It cannot and does not serve individuals who may have transcended the current place and time fixation of earth. It is not meant or deigned too do so.

Currently on earth, among Hindus, Sanatana Dharma is consumed with and at best limited to, the ideas and ideals exemplified by Lord Rama. At this level Sanatana Dharma is concerned only with the three Gunas. This is a very limited view and preoccupation. It is none spiritual.

This current preoccupation of Sanatana Dharma, "killeth" spiritual actualization. At this level the vast majority of Hindus are led to depend on the priest class (the Brahmins) to make spiritual intersessions on their behalf. Under current Sanatana Dharma, Hindus are not taught or encourage to become individually spiritually actualized, so as to make their own intercessions at the spirit or quantum level.

These priest class Brahmins are concerned with only the Vedas. The Vedas are concerned only with three Gunas. Lord Krishna advised Arjuna, as follows:
This is the golden path.

Lord Krishna confirmed that one should not be taken in or consumed, with the ordinary brahmin priest class who currently rule supreme in 'three gunans/Vedas based' Sanatana Dharma. The Lord said:


Lord Krishna exemplified a life style that is less reliance on the 'three Gunas/Vedas' Dharma of Lord Rama. Lord Krishna exemplified a life style that is more liberating and closer to bringing spirit heaven to physical expression on earth.

The commission which the Lord Jesus committed onto only Paul totally removes the need for any Dharma. This establishes a life style on earth which perfectly, totally and harmoniously brings and sustains spirit heaven to physical expression on earth, absolutely effortlessly.

Lord Rama, Lord Krishna and Lord Jesus are all 'incarnation' or human (physical bodied) expressions, of the divine, Lord Vishnu. Lord Vishnu is literally the intelligence which informs the sustaining of the creation.

In Lord Jesus we have the highest and latest expression or incarnation of Lord Vishnu. And indeed his message is correspondingly the highest and wisest, so far.

There is increasing spiritual actualization in the progression of incarnations of Lord Vishnu. This is totally accepted in Sanatana Dharma. However while Hindus accept this fact. Only some accept that the Lord Jesus was indeed an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. However even they are reluctant to recognize that the Lord Jesus is the most profound incarnation of Lord Vishnu, to grace the surface of earth, so far.

Lord Rama and Lord Krishna came into and operated in environments which, to a great extent, recognized and supported their spiritual actualization. These environments contained significant quantum of spiritually aware people.

However the Lord Jesus ventured into an environment that was down right hostile to and totally dismissive of, His spiritual actualization. The Lord Jesus ventured into an absolutely spiritually dead environment. This environment contained only a few spiritually aware persons. Yet the Lord Jesus persevere and was still able to function spiritually. The Lord Jesus had to be and clearly was more powerful. His God given mission was clearly more challenging.

The fruits of the seed which the Lord Jesus planted 2000 odd years ago has now blossomed in full glory. The surface of earth is this fullness of time. The fullness of time came to earth when very recently, the Age of Aquarius dawned on the surface of earth.

You didn't address my main point about your 'antinomianism', neither did you spend the time to look it up, to see what it is in order to engage the discussion, which is about your rejection of the law of Moses, but I address universal laws and principles in general, laws of nature, laws of consciousness. We've engaged this subject before. If you're not interested in discussion, but just writing lengthy dissertations, go ahead.

My studies in Hinduism have not been as forthcoming recently for studies in Theosophy, but the great truths of all religions especially Hinduism/Buddhism (Sanatana Dharma and her tributaries) are espoused and expounded wonderfully within Theosophy. 'Sanatana Dharma' is the 'eternal way' or 'eternal religion', so naturally it contains the kernel of truth expressed in her various schools, Buddhism being an offspring of it. The 'Perennial Wisdom' is that golden thread within most esoteric schools, because the principles are universal in nature.

As far as earth transforming into a new Golden Age, well that remains to be seen, and is the fascination of both fundamentalist religionists and new-agers abroad. As more souls tune into the Spirit of God, their own God-identity and consciousness,...naturally they will express the nature, qualities and attributes of such.

Gurucam
October 26th, 2015, 12:55 PM
You didn't address my main point about your 'antinomianism', neither did you spend the time to look it up, to see what it is in order to engage the discussion, which is about your rejection of the law of Moses, but I address universal laws and principles in general, laws of nature, laws of consciousness. We've engaged this subject before. If you're not interested in discussion, but just writing lengthy dissertations, go ahead.



I did address your main point. I said:

I have no idea about what you mentioned. Also I am not interested.

I also confirmed:

What I post on this forum is a perfect amalgam of my own spirit and the Holy Spirit. I obtain this perfect amalgam by communing with and being led, unconditionally by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. I discern precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for me to know, pray for say and do, within my own heart or spirit. This is what I post.

Simultaneously, in these posts, I seek to validate only the revelations in the KJV N.T. I admit this openly.

I can say now: Put very simply. I might look up 'antinomianism', out of curiosity.

However I am not going to spend the time to look up 'antinomianism', to see what it is in order to engage the discussion.

A discussion with who?

I will engage you only personally, as I did so far.

If you make a claim that is not supported by revelations in the KJV N.T. I will quote the verses in the KJV N.T., which literally opposes your claim. I will leave your other claims alone.

This would be enough and very fair. This is what I do.

You have said that all traditions share the same thread of truth. Then if I show you that your claim is contrary to revelations in only one tradition, (say the KJV N.T.) then that would be the end of that. You would have no choice but to accept that your claim in not correct in any other tradition. And therefore you are simply making up your claims, all on your own.

In other words I do not have to look up or read any other material in order to engage you. I can engage you only with the KJV N.T. and that will cover all other sources, for as you said 'all traditions share the same thread of truth'.

So let us not waste time. I discern no sense in your dancing around in so many traditions when you claim that all have the same thread of truth.

My posts with respect to the O.T. is supported literally and totally by revelations in the KJV N.T.

It is not important to me to find out what 'antinomianism' is or on what they based their ideas.


As far as earth transforming into a new Golden Age, well that remains to be seen, and is the fascination of both fundamentalist religionists and new-agers abroad. As more souls tune into the Spirit of God, their own God-identity and consciousness,...naturally they will express the nature, qualities and attributes of such.

Where did you get the idea that 'the earth is transforming to a new Golden Age'? The Age of Aquarius which has already graced the surface of earth does not give rise to a new Golden Age.

However the Age of Aquarius does bring and sustains enough spirituality, on the surface of earth to make it not hospitable to spiritually dead people. Fact is whenever a consequential new alignment of planets and other heavenly occurs, it changes consciousness on the surface of earth. Then some people who were previously suited to earth, becomes not any more suited to the surface of earth. Simultaneously others from elsewhere, become suitable.

When the surface of earth move from the physical Age of Pisces to the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, spiritually dead people must be displaced. This naturally and spontaneously give rise to need to have spiritually dead people teleported out of the surface of earth, to a parallel earth which is conformed to or entangled with, their ideologies.

Since spiritually dead people preach and/or simply pay lip service to the law, sin and punishment in hell, then it is appropriate for them to have a parallel earth, all their own, where the law, sin and punishment in hell is only way of life.

Is it not fair that they live among only their own kind in an earth that is totally conformed to the law, sin and punishment in hell? This requires no judgment of the spiritually dead. They simply have it their way without making any judgment on them.


My studies in Hinduism have not been as forthcoming recently for studies in Theosophy, but the great truths of all religions especially Hinduism/Buddhism (Sanatana Dharma and her tributaries) are espoused and expounded wonderfully within Theosophy. 'Sanatana Dharma' is the 'eternal way' or 'eternal religion', so naturally it contains the kernel of truth expressed in her various schools, Buddhism being an offspring of it. The 'Perennial Wisdom' is that golden thread within most esoteric schools, because the principles are universal in nature.

No one gets truth (great or simple) by 'studies'. Getting Truth was never and is never an intellectual pursuit. Truth was always and is always, obtained only through an internal intuitive search of one's own heart or spirit.

Also truth is never gotten at the 'herding' general level of any tradition. If you want Truth you have to get to an Enlightened Master (in any tradition). However he would accept and help you only if you are given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Therefore you have to be first chosen by God. Only then can a Master help you onto the path to Truth. If he is bared from helping you (because you are not ready) he will not insult you by sending you off. Instead he will reaffirm the parables and generalized ideals and law of your previous tradition.

Then you will go your merry way firm in the belief that your tradition has all Truth. This is what billions who seek Truth, get. . . . . simply because they are not yet ready to know Truth.

Fact is, All Truth comes only from the Spirit of Truth. You have to connect with this Spirit, intuitively through your own spirit.

Then he will tell you that no human, no physical spoken words, no written words, not even from him, can tell or give, you Truth. He would introduce you to a meditation technique. And through your faithful practice of this technique you can come to know Truth. This is the only way that one can come to know Truth. Knowing Truth is possible only privately, individually and intuitively, through one's own heart or spirit from the Spirit of Truth.

Knowing Truth has absolutely nothing to do with studying.

2 Timothy: 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God . . .

1 Corinthians 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Do you include those two threads of truth as being in all traditions? As you have said, if this thread is true in the KJV N.T. then it must be true in all traditions.

Or are you leaving those revelations out so that you can go ahead and study scriptures and not seek it by inspiration?

freelight
October 26th, 2015, 03:35 PM
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]I did address your main point. I said:

I have no idea about what you mentioned. Also I am not interested.

The term refers to an attitude and belief that is 'anti-law' in nature,...a link is usually shared affording an explanation of the subject being meant to be 'discussed'. Since you refuse to make an effort to consult the definition, you refuse and retard an actual discussion being shared here. Remember, this is a discussion board. I've already addressed the issue of your rejection of the 'law', for your own 'spirit-leadings',...but this for most people just confuses the issue. The point being shared on my part is that universal, eternal laws cannot be dismissed since they are intrinsic to the very fabric of existence and the government of all actions.


I also confirmed:

What I post on this forum is a perfect amalgam of my own spirit and the Holy Spirit. I obtain this perfect amalgam by communing with and being led, unconditionally by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. I discern precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for me to know, pray for say and do, within my own heart or spirit. This is what I post.

We know that's what you go by. (just your own spirit amalgam :p).


Simultaneously, in these posts, I seek to validate only the revelations in the KJV N.T. I admit this openly.

That's your chosen limitation, since the KJV Bible is not the most perfect or reliable translation. We have better ones now that more manuscripts are available to compare and draw better representations of the text. Still,....the written word is limited, as "the letter kills while the Spirit gives life". That which comes thru 'man' is subject to imperfection, distortion, so no one 'version' of a religious book is necessarily the 'be all, end all' of anything. its just another 'version' ;)


I can say now: Put very simply. I might look up 'antinomianism', out of curiosity.

However I am not going to spend the time to look up 'antinomianism', to see what it is in order to engage the discussion.

This doesn't make sense,....since the reason I shared the link is in order for you to engage in an informed/intelligent discussion on the subject of 'laws'.


If you make a claim that is not supported by revelations in the KJV N.T. I will quote the verses in the KJV N.T., which literally opposes your claim. I will leave your other claims alone.

Tit for tat. The KJV version is a good translation for its day (the 17th century), but we have better translations and manuscripts from which to draw. See my expose on the KJV here (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4482522&postcount=398) (videos included).



You have said that all traditions share the same thread of truth. Then if I show you that your claim is contrary to revelations in only one tradition, (say the KJV N.T.) then that would be the end of that. You would have no choice but to accept that your claim in not correct in any other tradition. And therefore you are simply making up your claims, all on your own.

In Theosophy, the esoteric universal laws and principles behind all existence/creation are the same, yet expressed or articulated in different symbols or metaphors within different traditions. Go here (http://www.blavatskytrust.org.uk/html/begin.htm) for starters, from a Theosophical perspective. The laws of nature and spirit are universal.


In other words I do have to look up or read any other material in order to engage you. I can engage you only with the KJV N.T. and that will cover all other sources, for as you said 'all traditions share the same thread of truth'.

So let us not waste time. I discern no sense in your dancing around in so many traditions when you claim that all have the same thread of truth.

The KJV asides, I'm specifically addressing your 'anti-law' stance and as far as universal law goes, I take a Theosophical view on this (currently), so its best to understand that within its 'context-parameters'. The KJV or the NT by itself is not the only religious text in the world having truth. 'God' is a universal, omnipresent reality, and its wisdom is all-pervading, found in the traditions of both east and west.



Where did you get the idea that 'the earth is transforming to a new Golden Age'? The Age of Aquarius which has already graced the surface of earth does give rise to a new Golden Age.

It was your reference to the Age of Aquarius that I was touching on. You'd have to distinguish your view from a more purely new-age one, and show to traditionalist bible believers that your view is tenable.


However the Age of Aquarius does bring and sustains enough spirituality, on the surface of earth to make it not hospitable to spiritually dead people. Fact is whenever a consequential new alignment of planets and other heavenly occurs, it changes consciousness on the surface of earth. Then some people who were previously suited to earth, becomes not any more suited to the surface of earth. Simultaneously others from elsewhere, become suitable.

When the surface of earth move from the physical Age of Pisces to the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, spiritually dead people must be displaced. This naturally and spontaneously give rise to need to have spiritually dead people teleported out of the surface of earth, to a parallel earth which is conformed to or entangled with, their ideologies.

That's fine according to the law of correspondence,...since you naturally gravitate towards that realm that matches your own vibration or frequency (realms of heaven/hell and inbetween), in the spirit world. Where this is found in the NT however is more difficult to prove, as far as orthodox Christian is concerned.


Since spiritually dead people preach and/or simply pay lip service to the law, sin and punishment in hell, then it is appropriate for them to have a parallel earth, all their own, where the law, sin and punishment in hell is only way of life.

Is it not fair that they live among only their own kind in an earth that is totally conformed to the law, sin and punishment in hell?

Perhaps, but where in the NT is there anything about a parallel earth, or earth having a kind of astral-double?


No one gets truth (great or simple) by 'studies'. Getting Truth was never and is never an intellectual pursuit. Truth was always and is always, obtained only through an internal intuitive search of one's own heart or spirit.

While I'm somewhat 'studied' in comparative religions and other schools of philosophy/metaphysics,....I've NEVER said or assumed that 'study' takes the place of 'enlightment' or personal 'religious experience' and 'practice' ever. I ever affirm that 'God' is a reality intimately and personally known or realized intuitively within one's own 'being', Self-evident. On these grounds I agree with you.


Also truth is never gotten at the 'herding' general level of any tradition. If you want Truth you have to get to an Enlightened Master (in any tradition). However he would accept and help you only if you are given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Therefore you have to first chosen by God. Only then would he help you onto the path to Truth.

:think: - this is true within certain traditions, the master/disciple, guru/chela relationship. However, there are ways to be enlightened that do not include such rigorous undertakings in this modern day and age.


Then he will tell you that no human, no physical spoken words, no written words, not even from him, can tell or give, you Truth. He would introduce you to a meditation technique. And through your faithful practice of this technique you can come to know Truth. This is the only way that one can come to know Truth. Knowing Truth is possible only privately, individually and intuitively, through one's own heart or spirit from the Spirit of Truth.

In essence and principle I agree. I don't think I've shared otherwise, except to expound on other features of religious life.


Knowing Truth has absolutely nothing to do with studying.

See above. Never-the-less, right study and intellectual application and discipline is essential within the context of conditional knowledge in religious life and practice. If you don't think so, then throw your NKV bible away, no longer make a reference to it for anything, and no longer study anything. If you do that you cant "relate" anything.

The truth is, that without an intellectual foundation and language to RELATE anything, you'd have nothing to communicate, since we must use symbolic language to do so, hence its 'necessity' at a 'relational' level. All tools (language, books, concepts, ideas, ideals, religious ritual/forms/mythology) are included in the comprehension of reality, or in engaging theology, obviously.

dialm
October 26th, 2015, 03:39 PM
Learning the bible takes a lot of study and prayer. But Gurucam is right about the aquarium teaching. You can't learn this stuff by reading. Telescopic teleportation of grey water matter. Your mind must first become numb. The earth cannot hold this together.

Gurucam
October 27th, 2015, 03:29 AM
1. The term refers to an attitude and belief that is 'anti-law' in nature,...a link is usually shared affording an explanation of the subject being meant to be 'discussed'. Since you refuse to make an effort to consult the definition, you refuse and retard an actual discussion being shared here. Remember, this is a discussion board. I've already addressed the issue of your rejection of the 'law', for your own 'spirit-leadings',...but this for most people just confuses the issue. The point being shared on my part is that universal, eternal laws cannot be dismissed since they are intrinsic to the very fabric of existence and the government of all actions.



We know that's what you go by. (just your own spirit amalgam :p).



2. That's your chosen limitation, since the KJV Bible is not the most perfect or reliable translation. We have better ones now that more manuscripts are available to compare and draw better representations of the text. Still,....the written word is limited, as "the letter kills while the Spirit gives life". That which comes thru 'man' is subject to imperfection, distortion, so no one 'version' of a religious book is necessarily the 'be all, end all' of anything. its just another 'version' ;)



In 2. above you pointed out what you perceive to be the limitation of the KJV N.T. And describe the KJV N.T. as my chosen limitation.

Then in 1. above you try to sell me your chosen limitation.

That simply demonstrate that you are trying to be smart with foolishness.

It all seems to 'boil down' to who is making the more informed choice. This is anchored on the approach which one uses to make that choice.

I have indicated how I make my choice. I use the spiritual approach (the intuitive, internal approach).

You have indicated that you use the lettered approach (the 'seen', intellectual and external approach).

However every lettered (i.e. 'seen'/physical/external) thing comes from the consciousness (i.e. 'not seen'/spirit dimension) of some human.

The very source of all the things which you study (or intellectualize) is purely, first, 'not seen', intuitive and spiritual. They exist, first, in abstraction within some human. This can never be the other way around.

Therefore the (written or other) works which you are studying (intellectualizing) are simply the intuitive/spiritual perceptions of one or more persons.

I simply enter my inquiry at the level of intuitive/spiritual perception.

You chose to enter and dwell on, your inquiry, at the lower level. You choose to focus your inquiry on the written records of the intuitive/spiritual discernment, of one or more human.

You are therefore, inevitably imprisoned or enslaved by such persons.

You have to wake up to the fact that all spoken and written ideas originate in abstraction within people. Then you must also seek that origin within your self and stop relying on the physical expression of other people's abstractions.

This should, at least, awaken you to your own deluded state and your approach which 'killeth' your own intuitive/spiritual actualization.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life
You are using the dead or 'killeth' path. You are not using the path which giveth life. Life come from knowing All Truth. This is how and where All Truth is derived:

Matthew: 6 KJV N.T.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: . . . .

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
17 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.There is absolutely no ambiguity in the KJV N.T. about how and where one will find All Truth. Truth is not at all in any letters (i.e. not in any physically spoken or physically written scriptures). All Truth are delivered without physically spoken and/or physically written words. All Truth are delivered privately and individually to each person, through a totally none physical pathway. This is done through a 'not seen' intuitive connection between each person's spirit/heart and the Spirit of Truth.

You did say that threads of truth run through all traditions. Do you not hold that the above revelations are threads of truth which run through all traditions?

Don't you recognize those threads of truth? Or is it not convenient, at this time, for you to recognize those threads of truth?

Gurucam
October 27th, 2015, 04:10 AM
It was your reference to the Age of Aquarius that I was touching on. You'd have to distinguish your view from a more purely new-age one, and show to traditionalist bible believers that your view is tenable.


I will raise two points with respect to the above.

First: when I seek to be more clear, readers complain about the length of my post. Even you have said:


. . . writing lengthy dissertations, go ahead.
Seems that you do not mind it if I serve only you by 'writing lengthy dissertations'.

Second: I cannot and do not wish to, reference every idea floating around. I made no mention of 'New Age'. Fact is 'New Age' are not simply 'New' and 'Age' in the general English Language meaning.

'New Age' stands as a name or description of some thing similar to 'Christianity', 'Sanatana Dharma', 'Islam', 'Judaism', etc.

'New Age' has all its own dimensions and seems to be vying for its place among all the above.

I have long confirmed that my focus on this forum, with respect to things (written things) of this earth, is limited to the KJV N.T.

I do not see the need to further "distinguish my view"

If I mention the Age of Aquarius and that lead you to the idea of 'New Age' movement, it is not that I need to distinguish my terms. It clear that you are careless, confused and simply wasting valuable space and time on this forum.

My perception is that you are either unwitting or you are (unwittingly) trying to be smart with foolishness.

At any event I 'see' you as one in serious confusion. It certainly takes unwitting-ness to end there.

Gurucam
October 27th, 2015, 12:35 PM
Freelight,

Those who in any way promote and/or use lettered discernment (instead of spirit discernment) are invariably 'entangled' with physical/lettered discernment. They are not at all 'entangled' with spiritual discernment or with things spiritual.

Eventually they are inevitably 'teleported' to a parallel earth, where all people live only by physical/lettered discernment. No one there know of or live by, intuitive/spiritual discernment.

Those who live by lettered/physical discernment are called the spiritually dead. For the past 2000 odd years, on earth, they were also called 'intellectuals'.

Those who live by intuitive/spiritual discernment are called the spiritually aware. They are also called 'intuits'.

For most of the past 2000 odd years, 'intellectuals' ruled this world. 'Intuits' were looked down at and persecuted by, 'intellectuals'. However things have changed drastically. 'Intuits are the 'meek' who, according to the prophesy of the Lord Jesus, would inherit the earth. Their time is at hand. 'Intellectuals' are no longer relevant on the surface of this earth and they are to be teleported out of here is one fell scoop.

(Fact is the original Eve was meek. She was led intuitively. She never judged anything. She simply obeyed her own intuitions. Her intuitions were informed by her higher, expanded, all knowing mind. This led her into perpetually heavenly life. At that time, she was not awakened to intellectual discernment and intellectual running of her life. Then she fell from Grace.

Eve, fell from grace when she was awakened to her intellectual faculty or intellectual capacity and proceeded to run her life according to her own intellectualizing. She was no longer the meek. She no longer simply followed her own intuitions without assessing or questioning its guidance. She now had a full blown ego. She knew. She had her own 'half baked' intellectually derived 'wisdom' derived through her lower sub-conscious mind. She then allow these intellectual derived ideas to run her life. Every thing ceased to be perfect. Her life became a living hell. One has to reverse this in order to return to a heavenly life. . . . This is highly summarized.)

For the past 2000 odd years spiritually dead people lived on earth together with spiritually aware people. They jointly created and sustained the reality on earth.

This is destine to change suddenly and totally. Soon all spiritually dead people are to be teleported out of here and into their own parallel earth. Their parallel earth has long existed. It is totally devoid of spiritually aware beings. This makes that parallel earth, very sad, desolate and hellish. Also the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not reach that parallel earth. In fact all the dooms day, fullness of time events that are mentioned in the KJV N.T. describe the on-going reality in that parallel earth.

After the mass teleportation, out of here, of all spiritually dead persons, only spiritually aware people will be left here. Before this event nothing seriously bad will happen on earth. Most bad things will affect only spiritually dead people. Most humans will not perceive it this way.

Then after this event, only good things will happen on the surface of this original earth. In fact, the surface of earth will be be quickly, spontaneously and naturally transformed to a modern Garden of Eden. God's kingdom of heaven will be on earth. Food will grown and be available, spontaneously and bountifully, every where. Fresh water will also be available every where bountifully.

Then every of one's slightest desire will be fulfilled effortlessly and bountifully. Humans, by comparing their past life on earth with their present life on earth, will perceive that God's kingdom of heaven is on earth. From their perceptive, there will be absolutely no suffering on earth. Indeed this would be a heaven of great sorts on earth.

However spiritually dead people will not be on this earth. They will now be living in a parallel earth that is a totally different. Their experience will also be totally different.

The time for the spiritually dead to change their ways is now, immediately.

freelight
October 27th, 2015, 01:34 PM
In [COLOR="Red"]2. above you pointed out what you perceive to be the limitation of the KJV N.T. And describe the KJV N.T. as my chosen limitation.

Then in 1. above you try to sell me your chosen limitation.


Not selling anything, my former 'points' stand.



I have indicated how I make my choice. I use the spiritual approach (the intuitive, internal approach).

Many of us do as well. Already touched on this.



You have indicated that you use the lettered approach (the 'seen', intellectual and external approach).

That's your assumption.


You chose to enter and dwell on, your inquiry, at the lower level. You choose to focus your inquiry on the written records of the intuitive/spiritual discernment, of one or more human.

I've already clearly stated that human language, intellect, concepts are necessary in order to relate and communicate. That's all they are....'pointers', 'referents', 'symbols'. I'm not the one claiming that to endorse any particular version of the Bible, in your case the KJV. Seems like you're attached to the "letter"? I've already exposed the vanity of a KJV-Only ism here. (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4482522&postcount=398) (this is a minor point, unless one makes it 'major')


You are therefore, inevitably imprisoned or enslaved by such persons.

I'm a free spirit exploring many different religious texts, cultures and traditions. Truth or 'reality' is universal, its only in its various creative expressions that particulars come to the fore.


You have to wake up to the fact that all spoken and written ideas originate in abstraction within people. Then you must also seek that origin within your self and stop relying on the physical expression of other people's abstractions.

This should, at least, awaken you to your own deluded state and your approach which 'killeth' your own intuitive/spiritual actualization.

You are using the dead or 'killeth' path. You are not using the path which giveth life.

'God, Spirit alone is Life. Instead of seeing this is always my fundamental understanding or knowledge base,...there appears to be an effort to divide, scrutinize or pre-judge based on presuppositions.

'God' right now, is the One and Only Life or Consciousness that IS. - as theologians, we COMMUNICATE using words. Of course the 'word' is never the thing it refers to. Its just a word.

Perhaps a 'zen' break would be good about now ;)



There is absolutely no ambiguity in the KJV N.T. about how and where one will find All Truth. Truth is not at all in any letters (i.e. not in any physically spoken or physically written scriptures). All Truth are delivered without physically spoken and/or physically written words. All Truth are delivered privately and individually to each person, through a totally none physical pathway. This is done through a 'not seen' intuitive connection between each person's spirit/heart and the Spirit of Truth.

Round the circle we go. Of course, the Spirit teaches, leads, guides. Who said otherwise?

freelight
October 27th, 2015, 01:43 PM
I will raise two points with respect to the above.

First: when I seek to be more clear, readers complain about the length of my post. Even you have said:

Seems that you do not mind it if I serve only you by 'writing lengthy dissertations'.

Second: I cannot and do not wish to, reference every idea floating around. I made no mention of 'New Age'. Fact is 'New Age' are not simply 'New' and 'Age' in the general English Language meaning.

'New Age' stands as a name or description of some thing similar to 'Christianity', 'Sanatana Dharma', 'Islam', 'Judaism', etc.

'New Age' has all its own dimensions and seems to be vying for its place among all the above.

I have long confirmed that my focus on this forum, with respect to things (written things) of this earth, is limited to the KJV N.T.

I do not see the need to further "distinguish my view"

If I mention the Age of Aquarius and that lead you to the idea of 'New Age' movement, it is not that I need to distinguish my terms. It clear that you are careless, confused and simply wasting valuable space and time on this forum.

My perception is that you are either unwitting or you are (unwittingly) trying to be smart with foolishness.

At any event I 'see' you as one in serious confusion. It certainly takes unwitting-ness to end there.

I was just saying that a clarification of the 'Age of Aquarius' would be helpful, since its usually associated with some new-age concept, or having some astrological significance. You would need to show how your 'concept' or 'use' of such a term is similar or different from the common assumption. Fundamentalists might not buy the concept, unless you could show how it 'biblically' fits and would be tenable to more conservative traditionalist Christians (just using that target audience as an example, since a good number here are of that category).

freelight
October 27th, 2015, 01:50 PM
Freelight,

Those who in any way promote and/or use lettered discernment (instead of spirit discernment) are invariably 'entangled' with physical/lettered discernment. They are not at all 'entangled' with spiritual discernment or with things spiritual.

Eventually they are inevitably 'teleported' to a parallel earth, where all people live only by physical/lettered discernment. No one there know of or live by, intuitive/spiritual discernment.

Those who live by lettered/physical discernment are called the spiritually dead. For the past 2000 odd years, on earth, they were also called 'intellectuals'.

Those who live by intuitive/spiritual discernment are called the spiritually aware. They are also called 'intuits'.

For the past 2000 odd years spiritually dead people lived on earth together with spiritually aware people. They jointly created and sustained the reality on earth.

This is destine to change suddenly and totally. Soon all spiritually dead people are to be teleported out of here and into their own parallel earth. Their parallel earth has long existed. It is totally devoid of spiritually aware beings. This makes that parallel earth, very sad, desolate and hellish. Also the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not reach that parallel earth. In fact all the dooms day, fullness of time events that are mentioned in the KJV N.T. describe the on-going reality in that parallel earth.

After the mass teleportation, out of here, of all spiritually dead persons. Only spiritually aware people will be left here. After this event, absolutely nothing bad will happen on the surface of this original earth. In fact, the surface of earth will be be quickly, spontaneously and naturally transformed to a modern Garden of Eden. God's kingdom of heaven will be on earth.

Living in, such a parallel earth is a totally different experience for the spiritually dead.

The time for the spiritually dead to change their ways is now, immediately.





When might this mass-transit or 'teleportation-jump' take place?

aikido7
October 27th, 2015, 02:16 PM
Aikido7,

You are sadly mistaken. You have anchored your belief and life on error (misunderstanding).

This is probably why "after your clinical treatment yesterday, you were certainly "dead" on all fronts!" I would suspect that the major cause of your physical illness is operating behind the scenes. This is your strong and deluded ego (we all have them). This often gives rise to arrogance, inflexibility and hardness (on oneself in particular).

One's ego is a composite of one's own intellectually derived deluded ideas and beliefs.

You seem to be esteeming your ego too strongly, this destroys you in many ways. Internally your ego, undermines, overrides and/or relegates the natural wisdom (i.e. omniscience and omnipotence) which is within you. This natural wisdom, if allowed to flow freely, can and do keep you and your physical body in perfect functionality and harmony.

If you over ride your ego you can have a spontaneous healing. 'You have to let go and let God'. This is describe as, dis-entanglement. It is the act of dis-entangling your higher truly wise self from you lower deluded self.

Do you know that this approach to healing (i.e. spontaneous healing) is validated as a scientific fact, by modern scientists over and over again. It is called dis-entanglement.

Modern scientists practice dis-entanglement routinely in their experiments. They know that everyone's ego interferes with their experiments and the results. This is called entanglement. It is spooky action at a distance or near by. It is just plain spooky.

So they dis-entangle themselves from their experiments. Their aim is to remove their own deluded ideas (i.e. their egos) from interfering with the process and out come of their scientific experiments. Their aim is to allow only natural forces of Nature (omniscience and omnipotence) to direct and determine the process and end of their experiments.

They do this by simply physically distancing themselves from the location when and where their experiment is being done. Spiritually aware people have been doing this for all eternity simply through an informed meditation practice, without removing themselves.

However, in spite of the wide spread acceptance and use of dis-entanglement in science everywhere, medical practitioners are denying their patients this approach to healing.

They do not want to admit that both you (your ego) and them (their collective egos) have conspired to make you ill, in the first pace and are now also conspiring to disrupt your spontaneous healing. (Here, for clarity of understanding, 'ego' can be replaced by 'half baked knowledge')

Fact is modern medical science is making you sick, simply by conditioning your ego with their medical 'wisdom'. Modern medical wisdom is anchored on setting up connections between actions, symptoms, diseases and treatment. These are 'hard wired' ideas. When you accept their wisdom your ego also becomes 'hard wired' with their expectations according to what they project to be connection between actions, symptoms, diseases and treatment.

Then if you are an ego driven person, then you would be left brain oriented. This would be your curse because: then, your ego will naturally spontaneously and easily undermine and override the mind of your wiser, 'field of all possibility' higher, health sustaining and health restoring, right side brain. And you will physically create and sustain all diseases according to modern medical connections between actions, symptoms, diseases and treatment.

Fact is, when you let these modern medical people into your head (i.e. when you accept their 'half baked' wisdom), they determine and rule your ego. Then your ego lead you to over ride and relegate your higher mind. Your higher mind is your, in built, omniscient and omnipotent mind. This is the mind of your right side brain. This mind can and do override all odds and sustains and/or restore your health perfectly. This is it's God given work.

When your ego or lower mind over-rides your higher mind your health prevention and health restoring mechanisms are undermined and/or destroyed. Then, diseases are create and sustained, in your physical body, according to the ideas of your ego.

The latest evidence has confirmed that modern medical science are masters of creating diseases. Simply by conditioning your ego (your left side brain) with their half baked knowledge which they label 'modern medical wisdom'. This create and sustains disease in your physical body. Then they sell you diagnoses and treatments. This is their way of life. Seems also that they will keep you sick, if you do not use their old elaborate system.

They are in charge of health care most every where. However they are in a serious conflict of interest position. Their old system keeps them relevant, employed, God like and at play. They are not moving to liberate 'healing and good health' into its natural, wiser and new modern scientific basis. This is in the realm of individual spiritual self actualization. It is subjective. They seem to fear their own extinction. This new approach will indeed undermined the status quo and privileged wealthy position of current health care providers.

This resistance to individual spiritual self actualization is not new. This liberation of individuals into spiritual self actualization, is exactly what the Lord Jesus sought to introduce 2000 odd years. However that too, would have undermined the status quo and privileged position of wealthy Old Testament rulers, back then. Therefore these Old Testament rulers opposed the Lord strongly. In fact they openly denied, persecuted, blasphemed and undermined him, then aided his murder. They believed that they had successfully run him 'out of town'.

Today, our modern medical practitioners are doing some thing similar. They are resisting new modern scientifically validate and far more superior technology for heath care. The Old human breeds always resist change which empowers a New and different bread of humans.

Our modern medical practitioners are doing, today, the same thing (either wittingly or unwittingly) which those Old Testament cronies did 2000 odd years ago.

However the undermining of spiritual self actualization cannot be contained this time around. There is now overwhelming spiritual awareness and planetary and heavenly bodies spiritual support on the surface of earth.

Spontaneous remission as a primary tool for healing is at the door step of humanity in scientifically validated terms and in full glory. Indeed the fullness of time is at hand. Our modern medical system will be totally dismantled naturally and spontaneously.

If they (our traditional medical people) do not innovate, they will also be teleported (alive while they live or dead, if they die before) to that parallel earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine. It is very natural law that every one inevitably reaches the destination of his or her own personal entanglement and disposition.

The fact that I can explain this in such clarity on this forum, testifies to the already established reign of spirituality on the surface of earth. Dis-entanglement' is the way forward.

Dis-entanglement is described as 'letting go and letting God'.

'This is how you let go and let God':

You have to start with a meditation technique which will effectively lead you to silence all your though. This is necessary because your thoughts are anchored on foolishness and wrong information. This is how you let go. Then the Spirit of God will simply surface and operate through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus from within your own heart or spirit and fix up all things in your life. This is how you let God.

You will notice that this is only about your spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It is all spirit. This is absolutely not about the written scriptures, manuscripts, Greek/English dictionaries, history, the law, sin or hell, the physical Lord Jesus and all those other things with which you are preoccupied.

Friends every one on this chosen forum need to read this post. However only a few will actually read it and fewer still will get the message . . . this is the prophesy of the Lord Jesus . . . so be it. The knowledge, it seems, must still be hidden from some.
. . . for indeed many must and will be teleported out of here and into continuing darkness which befits them.

The surface of earth is very bright under the blazing light of the glory and grace of God. There is just no room here (anymore) for the dead'.
I have worked in the medical field for years and you might be surprised at the new and emerging paradigm.

If a patient wants to pray to God, Allah or Vishnu, they should do so.
If they want to use crystals or acupuncture, go for it!
If they want to use the scientific medical model, they should do so.
If they want to mix and match, nothing is standing in their way.

As far as me making mistakes, stroking my own ego and acting less-than-perfect in my personal and public life, I plead guilty.

freelight
October 27th, 2015, 10:34 PM
If a patient wants to pray to God, Allah or Vishnu, they should do so.



:) I'm sure 'God' (the Big Guy in the sky, or that universal principle or omnipresent Spirit) is just fine going by whatever 'name' a true heart or soul is using to call upon Him, if sincerely from the heart, since it is the quality, tone and motive of one's 'prayer' that matters.

A "God help me", is sufficient,...even though 'God' is not God's name. 'God' in his utmost purity and infinity is nameless/formless. Man has named him and recognizes him in various forms.

aikido7
October 27th, 2015, 11:49 PM
:) I'm sure 'God' (the Big Guy in the sky, or that universal principle or omnipresent Spirit) is just fine going by whatever 'name' a true heart or soul is using to call upon Him, if sincerely from the heart, since it is the quality, tone and motive of one's 'prayer' that matters.

A "God help me", is sufficient,...even though 'God' is not God's name. 'God' in his utmost purity and infinity is nameless/formless. Man has named him and recognizes him in various forms.Quality, tone and motive do not seem to be concerns of the God I believe in. He is interested in running the universe. I don't think he pays attention to us in a way like we pay attention to others. He is infinite and is so much more above and beyond finite human concerns.

Gurucam
October 28th, 2015, 09:22 AM
When might this mass-transit or 'teleportation-jump' take place?

As soon as the Age of Aquarius has fully taken over, from the Age of Pisces, on the surface of earth. This could be within 10 years. It could be before. Our 'particle accelerating' physicists can accelerate this event by opening their own black hole portal. (any day now?)

Also the various ways of death on earth enables the spiritually dead to be teleported out of here and into their own parallel earth. Wars which are prevalent mostly among spiritually dead people are also expediting this transference in large numbers. Therefore do not be alarmed if there is serious escalation of wars and natural disasters. These are all tools for expediting teleportation of humans to destination dimensions, which are better suited to their entanglement.

This is karma. Karma is rooted in entanglement. What you promote and esteem on earth in this life determines where you end up in your next life. If you preach and esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell then when you die you and (only) all people like you will go to that parallel earth where all the rule is anchored only on the law, sin and punishment in hell. It is all fair.

On earth such people rode piggy back on spiritually aware people. However when they go to that parallel earth (all by themselves) they will face the lettered and unflinching operation of the law, sin and punishment in hell. Life then will be served to them according to what they paid lip service and/or esteemed on earth, previously. If on the original earth they served in wars, then they will be serving in wars in that other parallel earth, but only among their own kind.

The 'great powers' of the past 2000 odd years, were all letter discern-ers. They were all 'intellectuals'. They dominated churches, governments, capitalism, medicine, science. Indeed they dominated and ruled over every institution, discipline, profession and every things else.

They are flexing their old muscles. The recent visit of the Pope to the U.S.A. an example of the Old trying to reinvent themselves. Prophesy and reality is not that Old reinvent themselves and become the New. The New always displaces, relegates and replaces the Old. In every transformation on earth the Old is always rendered redundant and into suffering. Only a few from among the Old are ever 'chosen' for the New reality/Age. (I do not mean the New Age Movement. I do not know much about that organization)

Their time has passed. Intuitions rules.


"All a great power has to do to destroy it self is to persist in trying to do the impossible."


Stephen Vizinczey

Gurucam
October 28th, 2015, 09:59 AM
I have worked in the medical field for years and you might be surprised at the new and emerging paradigm.


The latest truth to surface is that: modern medical practitioners are killing their patients with their modern scientific diagnoses. This is commonly enunciated as follows: "many patients are dying from their diagnoses rather than from their illness." (there is abundant medical evidence which supports this fact. I can provide some.)

A modern medical practitioner is inevitably 'entangled' with his modern medical training. Then by simply being present with his patient he influences him. Through 'spooky action close up' the patient becomes 'entangled' with the modern medical training of his modern medical doctor. It is even worse if the doctor verbalizes his 'wisdom'. In both instances this flawed modern medical wisdom enter the consciousness of patients.

Then these modern medical idea over ride the higher unbounded mind of spontaneous healing in the patient. Then the full and terminal expression of the illness according to modern medical idea of symptoms, diagnoses and disease, is strengthened or materializes.

It is becoming increasingly clear that modern medical practitioners have to stop diagnosing and also stop sharing their diagnoses. In fact it is not safe or expedient for the health and well-being of sick people for modern medical practitioners to be any where near them. This is actually the beginning of the end of modern medical practitioners and their discipline as it exists today. It is becoming abundantly clear that their entanglement with the half baked ideas of modern medical science is silently killing their patients, through 'spooky action up close'.

Fact is in wiser traditions of Old, medical practitioner were called healers. They were not entangled with the half baked ideas of modern medical science. They were entangled with spontaneous healing. They were entangled with their own higher and unbounded mind, which initiates spontaneous healing.

Then when diseased people came in their presence, magical/miraculous healing occurred. Through 'spooky action close up' these healer cause these diseased people to simply awakened to their own higher and unbounded mind, which initiates spontaneous healing within them. Spontaneous healing occurred.

These 'healer' were like the Lord Jesus. They had the Gift of the Spirit, to heal. This is already happening, with increasing regularity, on earth. This will soon replace modern medical practitioners every where.

Fact is most modern medical persons have bought into modern medical science only because they were spiritually dead. If they do not become spiritually aware in these last days, they will be teleported out of here, like all other spiritually dead people.

These are not my ideas. I obtain these ideas directly from the Spirit of Truth, only because I deliver them as I get them, i.e. without soften or altering them in any way.

My perception is that anyone who is prepared to boldly deliver their intuitive insights from the Spirit of Truth, without soften or altering them in any way, can and will have them.

For most people, their ego (self interests and conditioning) gets in the way. They cannot deliver any thing 'ego-less-ly. This lacking capability keeps one separated from one's higher 'all knowing' and expanded mind. It is only by operating from this mind that one initiate and do 'miracles', like knowing and delivering these truths.

Today's miracles are tomorrows every day things.

You may notice that "Freelight" is having great difficulty in even imagining that one can know these things which I post, miraculously.

At every opportunity he is seeking to drag me into his spiritually dead, 'intellectual' way, which killeth. He is dying to hear me say that I got my information like he gets his, i.e. through some 'hand me down' source. He is looking for the false comfort of company.

With out making any judgment. I must confirm that this is the way of spiritually dead. They do not like to be spiritually dead by themselves alone. They are only comfortable when they believe that everyone is spiritually dead like them. This is why it would be very difficult for them in their own parallel earth where they will be among only their own kind.

Fact is I get all my information 'first hand' from the Spirit of Truth. This is now, the new and ruling way on earth. However few will realize and know this before too late is the cry.

Aikido7, please post some of those new and emerging paradigm in the medical filed.

aikido7
October 28th, 2015, 10:40 AM
The latest truth to surface is that: modern medical practitioners are killing their patients with their modern scientific diagnoses. This is commonly enunciated as follows: "many patients are dying from their diagnoses rather than from their illness." (there is abundant medical evidence which supports this fact. I can provide some.)

A modern medical practitioner is inevitably 'entangled' with his modern medical training. Then by simply being present with his patient he influences him. Through 'spooky action close up' the patient becomes 'entangled' with the modern medical training of his modern medical doctor. It is even worse if the doctor verbalizes his 'wisdom'. In both instances this flawed modern medical wisdom enter the consciousness of patients.

Then these modern medical idea over ride the higher unbounded mind of spontaneous healing in the patient. Then the full and terminal expression of the illness according to modern medical idea of symptoms, diagnoses and disease, is strengthened or materializes.

It is becoming increasingly clear that modern medical practitioners have to stop diagnosing and also stop sharing their diagnoses. In fact it is not safe or expedient for the health and well-being of sick people for modern medical practitioners to be any where near them. This is actually the beginning of the end of modern medical practitioners and their discipline as it exists today. It is becoming abundantly clear that their entanglement with the half baked ideas of modern medical science is silently killing their patients, through 'spooky action up close'.

Fact is in wiser traditions of Old, medical practitioner were called healers. They were not entangled with the half baked ideas of modern medical science. They were entangled with spontaneous healing. They were entangled with their own higher and unbounded mind, which initiates spontaneous healing.

Then when diseased people came in their presence, magical/miraculous healing occurred. Through 'spooky action close up' these healer cause these diseased people to simply awakened to their own higher and unbounded mind, which initiates spontaneous healing within them. Spontaneous healing occurred.

These 'healer' were like the Lord Jesus. They had the Gift of the Spirit, to heal. This is already happening on earth. This will soon replace modern medical practitioners every where.

Fact is most modern medical persons have bought into modern medical science only because they were spiritually dead. If they do not become spiritually aware in these last days, they will be teleported out of here, like all other spiritually dead people.

These are not my ideas.The facts surrounding the "placebo effect" have always been compelling to me.

Both the theist and the atheist can both look at the same facts, evidence and data and both can exclaim "WOW !!!"

When speaking of healers like Jesus, I make a distinction between being "cured" and being "healed."

Curing is all about stopping the progression of disease. Healing is about helping the afflicted person to once again join the community of human beings with their dignity intact.

People who are struggling with disease are often "cut off" from the rest of us.

When we can take on the healing that we were born to have, we are finally fully human--something Jesus always supported.

Gurucam
October 28th, 2015, 03:35 PM
The facts surrounding the "placebo effect" have always been compelling to me.

Both the theist and the atheist can both look at the same facts, evidence and data and both can exclaim "WOW !!!"
To a great extent the "placebo effect" has been contained and suppressed. Modern medical professionals did not develop this technology to even a small fraction of it potential.

They simply kept it at its "WOW !!!" level. The "placebo effect" had the potential to totally undermine their traditional profession, 'supremacy' and lively hood.

They are not going to research and develop the "placebo effect" into increased usefulness. This can and would destroy their lucrative profession, including the need for medical drugs, etc..

They are very happy to keep it at the level where, "WOW !!!" is the furthest and most recognition that the "placebo effect" gets.

Fact is the "placebo effect" is the result of spiritual self actualization. This is what the Lord Jesus sough to introduced to those Old Testament people, 2000 odd years ago. This would have made those O.T. leaders and rulers redundant. So those O.T. people denied, persecuted, blasphemed, tortured and the aided his crucifixion for attempting to introduce spiritual self actualization.

Is it therefore surprising that our modern medical fraternity will contain and shroud the fullness of the "placebo effect" and keep it firmly anchored only at the "WOW !!!" level? Indeed, it is not surprising.

The "placebo effect" is anchored on the same spiritual self actualization which the Lord sought to introduce 2000 odd years ago. And both the "placebo effect" and spiritual self actualization could and would render our modern medical fraternity useless and totally displaced just like those O.T. elders, leaders and rulers of 2000 odd years ago.

Remove yourself from the "WOW !!!" class. Awaken to the unlimited potential of the "placebo effect". Know for sure that our modern medical fraternity will not at all take the "placebo effect" any further than its "WOW !!!" stage. However its usefulness is unbounded.


When speaking of healers like Jesus, I make a distinction between being "cured" and being "healed."

Curing is all about stopping the progression of disease. Healing is about helping the afflicted person to once again join the community of human beings with their dignity intact.

People who are struggling with disease are often "cut off" from the rest of us.

When we can take on the healing that we were born to have, we are finally fully human--something Jesus always supported.

By 'the rest of us', you mean people who are more fortunate, generally?

Fact is there are always unfortunate people who are cut off from fortunate people. This is the way and fact of life.

People who are diseased, hungry, without shelter, without clothes, in constant war, in constant financial hardship, working at many jobs to meet basic needs, can't pay their mortgages, can't get a job, can't get health coverage, etc. are at least all the same. They are clearly separate from fortunate people.

When you say 'the rest of us' you probably mean people who are not diseased, not hungry, not in constant war, not in constant financial hardship, not working at many jobs to meet basic needs.

You also mean people who: have fine clothing, can pay their mortgages or who have a home that is not mortgage, have jobs which pay far more than their basic requirements, do not get sick, have access to the best paid medical services if they do need it, etc.

Fact is sick people are not as badly off as people who have no food. However they are both unfortunate.

Clearly a clear separation exists between the unfortunate and the fortunate. This separation is natural and anchored on the following:

There is God's kingdom of heaven and there is hell.

There is something called the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The Lord Jesus defined two classes of people. The Lord confirmed that some people (one set) are given (by God) to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. And all others (the other set) are not given (by God) to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The first set are the fortunate, the other set are the unfortunate. The Lord did not interfere with this 'balance'. He accepted it and worked around it. In fact the set who were not given (by God) to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven (the unfortunate set) were identified to be 'the dead' (the spiritually dead). The Lord Jesus showed no compassion for them. The Lord instructed, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Notice that God decides who is given to know and who is not given to know. Knowing the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and adapting them as one's life style, delivers one from being the unfortunate to being the fortunate.

The Lord left very clear instruction (in the KJV N.T.) on how the unfortunate can become the fortunate. The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is all that I have been teaching on this forum since 2008. However the Lord Jesus prophesied that from among the billions called to Christianity only a few will actually come to these mysteries and adopt them into their lives.

Fact is, the very great majority of people who are called to Christianity were and will be, misled by false prophets. They did not and will not know this technique. The have and will continue to err and therefore remain among the unfortunate.

A person's situation (whether heavenly or hellish) reveals what he knows or do not know. It confirms whether or not he knows and adopted the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven or not. It is a very clear indication.

Know for sure that if one is in an unfortunate place or position, he was not privy to and/or did not adapt, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. He might believe that he is Christian, however know that he is gravely mistaken. Know that he was misled by false prophets and did not actually get or know and/or adopt the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It is very simple and straight forward. Do not follow the masses who muddle up this simple fact so as to misled and falsely elevate themselves and others.

The sad fact is that sick people and other suffering people simply do not know and/or adopt, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This is why they are where they are. The solution for their situation is the same as it was for the past 2000 odd years. Their only deliverance is to come to accurately know these mysteries and adopt them into their lives.

Who do not hear have always been and continue to be, doomed to 'feel', i.e. to suffer (in hell).

Your own assessment and compassionate response counts for nothing. That is worse than a plaster on a festering sore. It simply mask a serious festering disability. Fact is each person must deliver himself and every one must know this fact. Each person must know, very clearly that he is solely responsible for him self and his predicament. This is the only path to deliverance from a hellish life.

Each person must, on his own, become deserving to be given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Individual and devoted effort is required in order to become given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Only then can the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven come to one.

Therefore although I post these mysteries freely on this forum, only the chosen few will actually read these mysteries and even fewer will actually come to know them. These are the few, who on their own, became deserving to be given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It is God who decides. The Lord Jesus and all others simply obey God, the Father.

I simply post these mysteries under obedience to God. I am not given to do anything else.

Bottom line is that the unfortunate becomes the fortunate solely by becoming spiritually self actualized. This is possible by coming to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. In order to qualify to be given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, one must humble one self. One must deny one's ego. One must transcend one's own ego. One must become a child again. (One must have no 'bright ideas' of his own) That, is one must transcend one's sub-conscious mind. And so connect first to one's discriminating mind and then with one's 'all knowing mind'. Then through one's 'all knowing mind', one can initiate one's heavenly life, including the "placebo effect", at will. This is called spiritual self actualization. This is the goal.

If one does not transcend one's sub-conscious mind/ego one cannot connect to one's discriminating mind and then to one's 'all knowing mind'. One will be lost. Then one will not be given by God to know the mysteries of His kingdom of heaven. And one will live in perpetual suffering and hell, everywhere and all the time.

It is all self inflicted. One is one's own Satan by one's own choice. Simply by owning one's ego and being dominated and led by one's own ego one is ruled by Satan.

Fact is one can also be led by God.

However one can serve only one of these two. No one can serve two masters.

Fact is one must let go and let God. This means that one must transcend (let go of) one's ego (one's lower mind) then the wisdom that is from God (through one's higher mind) will come to one's awareness. Then one can ignore his own ego (one's own intellectually derived wisdom) and be led by omniscience and omnipotence, i.e. the wisdom of God.

It is really all very simple to understand. It has been deliberately muddled by those who want to deny everyone, this simple wisdom.

dialm
October 28th, 2015, 04:54 PM
To a great extent the "placebo effect" has been contained and suppressed. Modern medical professionals did not develop this technology to even a small fraction of it potential.

They simply kept it at its "WOW !!!" level. The "placebo effect" had the potential to totally undermine their traditional profession, 'supremacy' and lively hood.

The "placebo effect" is the result of spiritual self actualization.



By the rest you mean people who are more fortunate, generally?

Fact is there are always unfortunate people who are cut off from fortunate people. This the way and fact of life.

People who are diseased, hungry, without shelter, clothes, in constant war, in constant financial hardship, working at many jobs to meet basic needs, can't pay their mortgages, can't get a job, can't get health coverage, etc. are at least all the same. They are clearly separate from fortunate people.

When you say 'the rest of us' you probably mean people who are not diseased, hungry, in constant war, in constant financial hardship, working at many jobs to meet basic needs.

You also mean people who: have fine clothing, can pay their mortgages or who have a home that is not mortgage, has a job which pay far more than their basic requirements, do not get sick, have access to the best paid medical services if they do need it, etc.

Fact is sick people are not as bad off as people who have no food.

The Lord Jesus defined two classes of people. He confirmed . . . will continue

DNA accrual analysis is a way to perfect the human gene splice. Supermen is the final thought pattern.

Gurucam
October 28th, 2015, 10:00 PM
DNA accrual analysis is a way to perfect the human gene splice. Supermen is the final thought pattern.

I am not familiar with the above.

However no spiritually dead human can safely or wisely alter and/or 'improve' anyone's gene or DNA.

Modern science is now operating at the force or spirit level or very close to that level. These modern scientists must have a related and required Gift of the Spirit. If they do not have spiritual awareness and the required spiritual actualization they will bring forth only horrible results.

DNA exists at the finest level of physicality which is connected to the grossest level of one's spirit. DNA is the first physical expression of one's individual spirit. It is the 'switching' point.

One cannot venture there with only physical awareness and physical tools. If one do so, one can and will create only devastation for all involved, i.e. through 'entanglement' (with unawareness).

This is like trying to do (spirit/miraculous) things similar to those which the Lord Jesus did. However they are trying to do these without possessing the spiritual actualization and Gift of the Spirit which the Lord had and used. They are operating blind in the most part.

On a next point:

I have finished the above post (post # 112). It is rather long, now. However if you connect to the trend, it can be easy and fast reading.

The trick is to get into the flow of my post. Then reading it could be easy and fast. This would mean that you are in tune with my mind, my higher mind through which I get my posts from the Spirit of Truth.

This leads to spiritual self actualization. This is the first steps to telepathic 'hearing'. This is similar to listening to a specific piece of classical music with the aim of lifting one's own consciousness to that of the particular musician at that time when he brought forth that particular piece of music.

dialm
October 30th, 2015, 02:33 PM
I am not familiar with the above.

However no spiritually dead human can safely or wisely alter and/or 'improve' anyone's gene or DNA.

Modern science is now operating at the force or spirit level or very close to that level. These modern scientists must have a related and required Gift of the Spirit. If they do not have spiritual awareness and the required spiritual actualization they will bring forth only horrible results.

DNA exists at the finest level of physicality which is connected to the grossest level of one's spirit. DNA is the first physical expression of one's individual spirit. It is the 'switching' point.

One cannot venture there with only physical awareness and physical tools. If one do so, one can and will create only devastation for all involved, i.e. through 'entanglement' (with unawareness).

This is like trying to do (spirit/miraculous) things similar to those which the Lord Jesus did. However they are trying to do these without possessing the spiritual actualization and Gift of the Spirit which the Lord had and used. They are operating blind in the most part.

On a next point:

I have finished the above post (post # 112). It is rather long, now. However if you connect to the trend, it can be easy and fast reading.

The trick is to get into the flow of my post. Then reading it could be easy and fast. This would mean that you are in tune with my mind, my higher mind through which I get my posts from the Spirit of Truth.

This leads to spiritual self actualization. This is the first steps to telepathic 'hearing'. This is similar to listening to a specific piece of classical music with the aim of lifting one's own consciousness to that of the particular musician at that time when he brought forth that particular piece of music.

Maybe a Ludwig Von Gurucam?

The name puts one in a dream state if hummmed quitely.

Wick Stick
October 30th, 2015, 02:43 PM
Maybe a Ludwig Von Gurucam?

The name puts one in a dream state if hummmed quitely.
This worked for me.

Or maybe it was reading GC's post. :think:

Gurucam
October 31st, 2015, 11:07 AM
Maybe a Ludwig Von Gurucam?

The name puts one in a dream state if hummmed quitely.

I guest that you are speaking about 'entanglement/influencing everyone and every thing.

Everyone every where is doing that to everyone and everything in creation.

Everyone is connected. Therefore the consciousness of every one is silently affecting everyone and every thing in creation. For the absolute great majority of people, this is happening at the sub-conscious level. It is happening totally out side of their consciousness. And they are all transmitting absolutely debilitating (hell creating) foolishness.

The fact that everyone is making transmissions to everyone else and to every thing, is scientifically validated over and over again. Modern scientists are using this knowledge, routinely.

Having firmly established the above fact.

The next informed choice is to who would one turn one's focus. That is, with who would one choose to be entangled . . . . Bearing in mind that the ideas, beliefs and interests which one holds, verbalizes and esteems on earth today will be the fabric and rule of the parallel (earth like or other) dimension which one will go to after death.

The aim is to bring one's consciousness to the highest possible level. This is why the 'supposed/make belief' elitist' class go to recitals of accomplished musicians and similar others artists. They are trying to elevate their consciousness, according to their simplistic and 'half baked' ideas. That is, they perceive that an artist of sorts is a big deal.

Fact is, the highest mind is an enlightened mind. However having the capacity to be a good artist does not make one enlightened. Therefore an artist would not necessarily have, even a high consciousness.

The aim is to connect with an enlightened mind (without compromise).

For this, one must be on one's guard, with respect to 'enlighten'. That description is commonly and erroneously and almost freely distributed, according to the perceptions of not enlightened people who may hold a popular or other influential 'position'.

For example self-help gurus and others, are arbitrarily given that title by talk show hosts and others. Self-help gurus are simply entangling their readers and listeners with half baked-ideas and making tons of money. They are designated 'enlightened' by similarly placed people.

My aim is not to make you or anyone else entangled with my ideas. I am not selling my ideas.

In order to guard against selling my own ideas, my posts are always totally validated by revelations from the KJV N.T. Therefore if any thing, I am simply sharing the (enlightened) ideas of the Lord Jesus.

My aim is simply to awaken people to their own expanded and unbounded higher mind.

Then each one can come on board and even deliver his or her own intuitive insight from the Spirit of Truth. Every one can have a different intuitive insight from the Spirit of Truth.

There is no single or one, absolute Truth.

There are as many Truths as there are humans on earth. Also there are as many dimensions as there are being in existence. These include billions of parallel earths. Each one conforming to each person's Truth. A person's Truth is the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations of his or her heart or spirit. This applies only to the spiritually aware.

The spiritually dead are simply dragged along into the depths of earth, with their dead physical bodies. If they happen to awaken, they are also teleported to parallel earth that is conformed to the ideas of their (deluded) preaching and verbalizing, on earth.

The ideas of God's kingdom of heaven, as confirmed by and related to the Lord Jesus belongs to the expanded consciousness/ideas of the Lord Jesus. This is described as Christ Consciousness. This has nothing to do with the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, nuclear and other wars, oppression of their peers, etc..

The Lord came up with a Kingdom of heaven in God's creation based on His consciousness. This is the commission which was rendered onto only Paul. This and only this is Christianity. Fact is not many humans, on earth, can come up with a better concept of God's kingdom of heaven. This was the Lord Jesus gift to people who he came among. The very great majority reject both the Lord and this gift of Christianity.

For the past 2000 odd years, these great masses of people choose instead to remain in the Old Testament tradition which included Peter's commission. Other new ones choose to join this Old Testament tradition. This was and is the commission for the spiritually dead.

Then, for the past 2000 odd years, these (O.T. and spiritually dead) people (billions) promoted, preached and/or esteemed the Old Testament tradition, which included Peter's commission. They did so in many slightly modified forms. They also did this whiles actively blaspheming and undermining Paul's commission (which was the Christian commission).

They totally missed out on Christianity. The Lord Jesus Christ benefited them nothing. The provision which the Lord made with respect to God's kingdom of heaven benefited them absolutely nothing. When they died on earth they were simply buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies. Some are in the earth for as long as 2000 odd years.

Speaking to Christians, the Lord confirmed that in His Father house are many mansions, I go to make a place for you. Therefore within God's creation there are many heavens. There are many heavens in the spirit realm. The Lord Jesus is in the spirit realm. He through His ideas has structured, created and rules over a Kingdom of heaven (a mansion) in God's creations (in God's house). This is in spirit heaven. He has made this kingdom of heaven for those who follow him in the regeneration. He did not make this kingdom of heaven for those who bury their dead, in the earth, together with their dead physical bodies.

To follow the Lord Jesus in the regeneration literally means to follow him to spirit heaven. This means to rise (like the Lord Jesus), in three days, after one's death to be like an angel in spirit heaven. This is how one follows the Lord Jesus after His Spirit was regenerated and He rose to heaven in that Spirit. Others who do not follow the Lord in this manner are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

The idea is to rise (like the Lord Jesus) in three days, after one's death to be like an angel in spirit heaven. To achieve this one must start during one's current life, as follows:

One must achieve communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus (like Paul did). This is achieved through one's own heart or spirit. Put another way, this is achieved through one's own higher, expanded and unbounded mind.

Then one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned in this manner. This must be one's life style on earth. This and only this is the Christian life style. This is "righteousness of God that is without the law and the letters". Under this approach to life one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. They are the children of God.

Then, having achieved this life style on earth, one will actually and really know the Lord Jesus (while one lives on earth and when one dies). Also the Lord Jesus will actually and really know one and He will confess one to God (while one lives on earth and when one dies).

When one dies one will retain one's spirit body and be separated from one's physical body. Therefore one will not not be buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body. One will be in one's spirit body without one's dead physical body. One will be a fully aware spirit being. Then, within three days, the Lord Jesus (clad only in His Spirit body) will come (with His Angels) to meet one. Then the Lord with His Angels will take one, through a black hole portal, to another dimension, which is spirit heaven and His current home. There is always bright light at the end of this 'black hole portal' which is described as a tunnel of brilliant clear light.

This has been on going among the chosen few for the past 2000 odd years. The chosen few are those who ignored and relegated the O.T. and Peter's commission and instead, embraced and adopted Paul's commission. They are the children of God. They are the New. Soon they will be returning to earth in God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

Soon, when all spiritually dead people are teleported out of the surface of earth, the Lord Jesus, His Angels and all persons who followed Him in the regeneration will return, from spirit heaven to inherit and live on earth.

At that time only children of God will inherit the surface of earth without any children of the flesh. Then any thing (foolish or other) that any one wants, in his heart (without exception) will come through, physically on earth.

That is, among these children of God, any and all ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each of their own heart or spirit, will be naturally, spontaneously and harmoniously expressed, made possible and/or materialized, totally and freely on the surface of earth. This is the essential fabric of God's kingdom of heaven on earth, Lord Jesus styling.

Fact is children of God who are on earth at this time are already having this life on earth, among themselves. When only children of God are on earth without children of the flesh, the fullness of God's kingdom of heaven will come to the surface of earth. Then this heavenly reality and life will be profoundly established here. This will be the total and only reality on the surface of this original earth.

This represents the idea of heaven on earth, which arose in the higher expanded and unbounded mind of the Lord Jesus for the people who he came among. The matrix of this was established 2000 odd years ago. This commission was rendered onto to only Paul.

There is no better or more enlightened idea to be entangled with on this earth at this time.

However although billions were called to embrace and be entangled with this Gift from the Lord Jesus (which is Christianity), only a few did so and only a few will ever do so. These are the 'chosen few'.

The very great majority were and would continue to be, distracted and misled. They never came and will never come, on board. At best, they remained O.T. people. They remained the Old and spiritually dead. Some even went into deeper spiritual death by entangling themselves with the commission of Peter and the ruling status quo, including the ideas of the western world. They all err and were not chosen (for God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm and then, physically, on earth). They are the children of the flesh. They are the 'spiritually dead'. They are 'the dead' in Jesus instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

However, after death, the spiritually dead, were always chosen for a parallel earth destination dimension that was perfectly conformed to their ideas. They are never treated unfairly.

In that parallel earth they live the full physical expression of their preoccupation on this earth. Their parallel earth is ruled totally and only by the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, nuclear and other wars, oppression of their peers, etc.. They will be among only their own kind. However thieir parallel earth is not a heaven of any sort.

Fact is, since they preached and promoted the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, etc. and they cannot uphold the law to the required standard, their parallel earth is perpetually very hellish. Because of this the light of the sun, the moon and the stars (and other heavenly bodies, do not reach there. Indeed there is never any light at the end of that 'black hole' tunnel, through which they are 'teleported' to their parallel earth.

Who then are these unfortunate people? Fact is all these people were in some way connected to the Old Testament and to Peter's commission. They includes all O.T. people.

However they also include the 'not chosen' masses, from among those called to Christianity. These were and continue to be billions. These billions are commonly called Christians. However they are not Christians. Only the chosen few, from among them are Christians.

These billions were all called to Christianity. Most were seeking to be Christians. However they were simply misled by false prophets and falsely led to believe that they are Christians. They were and are entangled with a false Christianity. They are entangled with O.T. ideologies, including Peter's commission. These have nothing to do with Christianity.

When these unfortunate people die, they are generally bitterly disappointed. It is then that they come to know of their misguided and unfortunate predicament, with absolute clarity. Indeed they never like the place that they go when they die. This is spite of the fact that they go to destination which is absolutely under the ideals and laws which they preached, promoted and esteemed on earth.

These people are not Christians. They were misled abut the most basics things about Christianity and/or the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They were misled into believing that the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, etc. were part of Christianity. They awaken to this fact only when they die. Then too late is their cry.

Christianity is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the law and the letter. The very great majority (billions) of those who came to or were called to, Christianity rejected righteousness of God that is without the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. Instead they embraced righteousness of God that is with the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. These billions were and are called 'traditional Christians'.

Everyone will go to the destination dimension of their choice or entanglement. Indeed what a man soweth in this life he will reap in his next life. This is 'the basis of 'judgment'.

1. Traditional Christians are children of the flesh. They are the spiritually dead. They have not embraced the Spirit. They remained under the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. Soon they will all go (be teleported), through a black hole portal', to a parallel earth destination dimension that is totally conformed only to the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. That black hole portal is also described as a tunnel. There is no light at the end of that tunnel. The light of the sun, moon and stars do not reach there.

There these unfortunate people will continue to have, live in and experience the workings of their belief system. They will be among only their own kind.

2. The chosen few are children of God. They are authentic Christians. Some are in spirit heaven, some are on earth. Soon those who are in spirit heaven will be teleported back onto the surface of earth. They will inherit the surface of original earth without traditional Christians now that the fullness of time is at hand.

Then the surface of earth will be transformed, naturally and spontaneously to God's physical kingdom of heaven. This will be a perfect physical version of God's spirit based kingdom of heaven.

Indeed "to each his own". And each will go to his or her chosen destination dimension which is conformed of his or her entanglement. Absolute fairness always prevails.

It is therefore expedient for humans to connect with the higher expanded and unbounded mind of the Lord Jesus. This is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This is according to the commission that was rendered on to only Paul.

One should not simply connect with an artist or a semi-literate or other scientist or a capitalist, or any other leader or royalty, or pope or who ever else.

I assure you that very few human mind on earth are currently conformed to (entangled with) the mind of the Lord Jesus. That is, when the Lord came up with the idea of the path to and the matrix of, God's kingdom of heaven (on earth and in the spirit realm). This is described as having the mind of Christ.

Humans whose minds are not entangled with this mind of the Lord, cannot be and will not be on this earth much longer. They will not be among children of God who inherit earth without children of the flesh (i.e. the spiritually dead).

If you want to be entangled with "God's kingdom of heaven, Lord Jesus' styling", you have to read my posts over and over again until you simply flow through them. Until you are very familiar with the language, terms and ideas. This you must do first. Eventually you can and will move on to your own conceptions and language. However, for now you must rise.

You must rise way beyond simply being 'wowed!!!' about the placebo effect and the likes.

dialm
November 2nd, 2015, 02:57 PM
Everyone every where is doing that to everyone and everything in creation.

Everyone is connected. Therefore the consciousness of every one is silently affecting everyone and every thing in creation. For the absolute great majority of people, this is happening at the sub-conscious level. It is happening totally out side of their consciousness. And they are all transmitting absolutely debilitating (hell creating) foolishness.

The fact that everyone is making transmissions to everyone else and to every thing, is scientifically validated over and over again. Modern scientists are using this knowledge, routinely.

Having firmly established the above fact.

The next informed choice is to who would one turn one's focus. That is, with who would one choose to be entangled . . . . Bearing in mind that the ideas, beliefs and interests which one holds, verbalizes and esteems on earth today will be the fabric and rule of the parallel (earth like or other) dimension which one will go to after death.

The aim is to bring one's consciousness to the highest possible level. This is why the 'supposed/make belief' elitist' class go to recitals of accomplished musicians and similar others artists. They are trying to elevate their consciousness, according to their simplistic and 'half baked' ideas. That is, they perceive that an artist of sorts is a big deal.

Fact is, the highest mind is an enlightened mind. However having the capacity to be a good artist does not make one enlightened. Therefore an artist would not necessarily have, even a high consciousness.

The aim is to connect with an enlightened mind (without compromise).

For this, one must be on one's guard, with respect to 'enlighten'. That description is commonly and erroneously and almost freely distributed, according to the perceptions of not enlightened people who may hold a popular or other influential 'position'.

For example self-help gurus and others, are arbitrarily given that title by talk show hosts and others. Self-help gurus are simply entangling their readers and listeners with half baked-ideas and making tons of money. They are designated 'enlightened' by similarly placed people.

My aim is not to make you or anyone else entangled with my ideas. I am not selling my ideas.

In order to guard against selling my own ideas, my posts are always totally validated by revelations from the KJV N.T. Therefore if any thing, I am simply sharing the (enlightened) ideas of the Lord Jesus.

My aim is simply to awaken people to their own expanded and unbounded higher mind.

Then each one can come on board and even deliver his or her own intuitive insight from the Spirit of Truth. Every one can have a different intuitive insight from the Spirit of Truth.

There is no single or one, absolute Truth.

There are as many Truths as there are humans on earth. Also there are as many dimensions as there are being in existence. These include billions of parallel earths. Each one conforming to each person's Truth. A person's Truth is the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations of his or her heart or spirit. This applies only to the spiritually aware.

The spiritually dead are simply dragged along into the depths of earth, with their dead physical bodies. If they happen to awaken, they are also teleported to parallel earth that is conformed to the ideas of their (deluded) preaching and verbalizing, on earth.

The ideas of God's kingdom of heaven, as confirmed by and related to the Lord Jesus belongs to the expanded consciousness/ideas of the Lord Jesus. This is described as Christ Consciousness. This has nothing to do with the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, nuclear and other wars, oppression of their peers, etc..

The Lord came up with a Kingdom of heaven in God's creation based on His consciousness. This is the commission which was rendered onto only Paul. This and only this is Christianity. Fact is not many humans, on earth, can come up with a better concept of God's kingdom of heaven. This was the Lord Jesus gift to people who he came among. The very great majority reject both the Lord and this gift of Christianity.

For the past 2000 odd years, these great masses of people choose instead to remain in the Old Testament tradition which included Peter's commission. Other new ones choose to join this Old Testament tradition. This was and is the commission for the spiritually dead.

Then, for the past 2000 odd years, these (O.T. and spiritually dead) people (billions) promoted, preached and/or esteemed the Old Testament tradition, which included Peter's commission. They did so in many slightly modified forms. They also did this whiles actively blaspheming and undermining Paul's commission (which was the Christian commission).

They totally missed out on Christianity. The Lord Jesus Christ benefited them nothing. The provision which the Lord made with respect to God's kingdom of heaven benefited them absolutely nothing. When they died on earth they were simply buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies. Some are in the earth for as long as 2000 odd years.

Speaking to Christians, the Lord confirmed that in His Father house are many mansions, I go to make a place for you. Therefore within God's creation there are many heavens. There are many heavens in the spirit realm. The Lord Jesus is in the spirit realm. He through His ideas has structured, created and rules over a Kingdom of heaven (a mansion) in God's creations (in God's house). This is in spirit heaven. He has made this kingdom of heaven for those who follow him in the regeneration. He did not make this kingdom of heaven for those who bury their dead, in the earth, together with their dead physical bodies.

To follow the Lord Jesus in the regeneration literally means to follow him to spirit heaven. This means to rise (like the Lord Jesus), in three days, after one's death to be like an angel in spirit heaven. This is how one follows the Lord Jesus after His Spirit was regenerated and He rose to heaven in that Spirit. Others who do not follow the Lord in this manner are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

The idea is to rise (like the Lord Jesus) in three days, after one's death to be like an angel in spirit heaven. To achieve this one must start during one's current life, as follows:

One must achieve communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus (like Paul did). This is achieved through one's own heart or spirit. Put another way, this is achieved through one's own higher, expanded and unbounded mind.

Then one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned in this manner. This must be one's life style on earth. This and only this is the Christian life style. This is "righteousness of God that is without the law and the letters". Under this approach to life one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. They are the children of God.

Then, having achieved this life style on earth, one will actually and really know the Lord Jesus (while one lives on earth and when one dies). Also the Lord Jesus will actually and really know one and He will confess one to God (while one lives on earth and when one dies).

When one dies one will retain one's spirit body and be separated from one's physical body. Therefore one will not not be buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body. One will be in one's spirit body without one's dead physical body. One will be a fully aware spirit being. Then, within three days, the Lord Jesus (clad only in His Spirit body) will come (with His Angels) to meet one. Then the Lord with His Angels will take one, through a black hole portal, to another dimension, which is spirit heaven and His current home. There is always bright light at the end of this 'black hole portal' which is described as a tunnel of brilliant clear light.

This has been on going among the chosen few for the past 2000 odd years. The chosen few are those who ignored and relegated the O.T. and Peter's commission and instead, embraced and adopted Paul's commission. They are the children of God. They are the New. Soon they will be returning to earth in God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

Soon, when all spiritually dead people are teleported out of the surface of earth, the Lord Jesus, His Angels and all persons who followed Him in the regeneration will return, from spirit heaven to inherit and live on earth.

At that time only children of God will inherit the surface of earth without any children of the flesh. Then any thing (foolish or other) that any one wants, in his heart (without exception) will come through, physically on earth.

That is, among these children of God, any and all ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each of their own heart or spirit, will be naturally, spontaneously and harmoniously expressed, made possible and/or materialized, totally and freely on the surface of earth. This is the essential fabric of God's kingdom of heaven on earth, Lord Jesus styling.

Fact is children of God who are on earth at this time are already having this life on earth, among themselves. When only children of God are on earth without children of the flesh, the fullness of God's kingdom of heaven will come to the surface of earth. Then this heavenly reality and life will be profoundly established here. This will be the total and only reality on the surface of this original earth.

This represents the idea of heaven on earth, which arose in the higher expanded and unbounded mind of the Lord Jesus for the people who he came among. The matrix of this was established 2000 odd years ago. This commission was rendered onto to only Paul.

There is no better or more enlightened idea to be entangled with on this earth at this time.

However although billions were called to embrace and be entangled with this Gift from the Lord Jesus (which is Christianity), only a few did so and only a few will ever do so. These are the 'chosen few'.

The very great majority were and would continue to be, distracted and misled. They never came and will never come, on board. At best, they remained O.T. people. They remained the Old and spiritually dead. Some even went into deeper spiritual death by entangling themselves with the commission of Peter and the ruling status quo, including the ideas of the western world. They all err and were not chosen (for God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm and then, physically, on earth). They are the children of the flesh. They are the 'spiritually dead'. They are 'the dead' in Jesus instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

However, after death, the spiritually dead, were always chosen for a parallel earth destination dimension that was perfectly conformed to their ideas. They are never treated unfairly.

In that parallel earth they live the full physical expression of their preoccupation on this earth. Their parallel earth is ruled totally and only by the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, nuclear and other wars, oppression of their peers, etc.. They will be among only their own kind. However thieir parallel earth is not a heaven of any sort.

Fact is, since they preached and promoted the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, etc. and they cannot uphold the law to the required standard, their parallel earth is perpetually very hellish. Because of this the light of the sun, the moon and the stars (and other heavenly bodies, do not reach there. Indeed there is never any light at the end of that 'black hole' tunnel, through which they are 'teleported' to their parallel earth.

Who then are these unfortunate people? Fact is all these people were in some way connected to the Old Testament and to Peter's commission. They includes all O.T. people.

However they also include the 'not chosen' masses, from among those called to Christianity. These were and continue to be billions. These billions are commonly called Christians. However they are not Christians. Only the chosen few, from among them are Christians.

These billions were all called to Christianity. Most were seeking to be Christians. However they were simply misled by false prophets and falsely led to believe that they are Christians. They were and are entangled with a false Christianity. They are entangled with O.T. ideologies, including Peter's commission. These have nothing to do with Christianity.

When these unfortunate people die, they are generally bitterly disappointed. It is then that they come to know of their misguided and unfortunate predicament, with absolute clarity. Indeed they never like the place that they go when they die. This is spite of the fact that they go to destination which is absolutely under the ideals and laws which they preached, promoted and esteemed on earth.

These people are not Christians. They were misled abut the most basics things about Christianity and/or the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They were misled into believing that the law, canons, the letters, sin, punishment in hell, etc. were part of Christianity. They awaken to this fact only when they die. Then too late is their cry.

Christianity is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the law and the letter. The very great majority (billions) of those who came to or were called to, Christianity rejected righteousness of God that is without the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. Instead they embraced righteousness of God that is with the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. These billions were and are called 'traditional Christians'.

Everyone will go to the destination dimension of their choice or entanglement. Indeed what a man soweth in this life he will reap in his next life. This is 'the basis of 'judgment'.

1. Traditional Christians are children of the flesh. They are the spiritually dead. They have not embraced the Spirit. They remained under the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. Soon they will all go (be teleported), through a black hole portal', to a parallel earth destination dimension that is totally conformed only to the law, the letters, canons, sin and punishment in hell. That black hole portal is also described as a tunnel. There is no light at the end of that tunnel. The light of the sun, moon and stars do not reach there.

There these unfortunate people will continue to have, live in and experience the workings of their belief system. They will be among only their own kind.

2. The chosen few are children of God. They are authentic Christians. Some are in spirit heaven, some are on earth. Soon those who are in spirit heaven will be teleported back onto the surface of earth. They will inherit the surface of original earth without traditional Christians now that the fullness of time is at hand.

Then the surface of earth will be transformed, naturally and spontaneously to God's physical kingdom of heaven. This will be a perfect physical version of God's spirit based kingdom of heaven.

Indeed "to each his own". And each will go to his or her chosen destination dimension which is conformed of his or her entanglement. Absolute fairness always prevails.

It is therefore expedient for humans to connect with the higher expanded and unbounded mind of the Lord Jesus. This is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This is according to the commission that was rendered on to only Paul.

One should not simply connect with an artist or a semi-literate or other scientist or a capitalist, or any other leader or royalty, or pope or who ever else.

I assure you that very few human mind on earth are currently conformed to (entangled with) the mind of the Lord Jesus. That is, when the Lord came up with the idea of the path to and the matrix of, God's kingdom of heaven (on earth and in the spirit realm). This is described as having the mind of Christ.

Humans whose minds are not entangled with this mind of the Lord, cannot be and will not be on this earth much longer. They will not be among children of God who inherit earth without children of the flesh (i.e. the spiritually dead).

If you want to be entangled with "God's kingdom of heaven, Lord Jesus' styling", you have to read my posts over and over again until you simply flow through them. Until you are very familiar with the language, terms and ideas. This you must do first. Eventually you can and will move on to your own conceptions and language. However, for now you must rise.

You must rise way beyond simply being 'wowed!!!' about the placebo effect and the likes.

Have you considered the Hawthorne Effect? It has to do with the Secret Electricity.

Gurucam
November 3rd, 2015, 01:36 AM
Have you considered the Hawthorne Effect? It has to do with the Secret Electricity.
I only now googled the above. Was not aware of those terms before.

The following is my spiritual/intuitive discernment:

'Hawthorne Effect': Reduced light is linked to Satan and hell. Increased light is linked to the Lord Jesus and heaven.

The 'Hawthorne Effect' seems related to reducing light in the working environment.

1. Seems that reduced light (increased darkness) results in humans being easier to be conditioned with, accept and serve, the ideas and wishes of others (i.e. their fellow human who seek to put them in servitude).

This enabled these workers to more effectively and efficiently serve the ideas of their human bosses and/or their bosses' human endeavors, etc.

Reduced light seems linked to keeping people within their sub-conscious mind. Humans are controlled by other humans through this mind.

2. On the other hand more light seems to liberate humans into their own self awareness/self actualization, i.e. into awareness of their own discriminating mind and their expanded and unbounded mind. Awareness of one's expanded and unbounded mind makes one a God onto himself. Such people cannot, would not and do not serve their fellow man. They cannot be and are never workers or leaders, in any man made endeavors.

This would make humans not at all cooperative to the ideas and agendas of others . . . but certainly wiser and closer to self actualization.

3. The above seems linked to the idea that the tunnel (the black hole portal) to hell has no light at it end. The light of the sun, the moon and stars do not reach hell. Reduced and/or total absence of light are tools of Satan.

On the other hand there is light at the end of the tunnel (the black hole portal) to heaven. Increased light and/or total light are tools of the Lord Jesus.

Please share some information on secret electricity?

Did you say the the pope is using secret electricity? Does this mean that the pope is using reduced light on his followers. This would be true to form.

The sun (light of the sun) is directly linked to spiritual awareness, omniscience and omnipotence, enlightenment in Christ, God and God's kingdom of heaven.

The absence of the sun (the absence of the light of the sun) is linked to the opposite of omniscience and omnipotence. The absence of the sun (the absence of the light of the sun) is linked to being spiritually dead, the law, canons, sin and punishment in hell.

dialm
November 3rd, 2015, 05:14 AM
I only now googled the above. Was not aware of those terms before.

The following is my spiritual/intuitive discernment:

'Hawthorne Effect': Reduced light is linked to Satan and hell. Increased light is linked to the Lord Jesus and heaven.

The 'Hawthorne Effect' seems related to reducing light in the working environment.

1. Seems that reduced light (increased darkness) results in humans being easier to be conditioned with, accept and serve, the ideas and wishes of others (i.e. their fellow human who seek to put them in servitude).

This enabled these workers to more effectively and efficiently serve the ideas of their human bosses and/or their bosses' human endeavors, etc.

Reduced light seems linked to keeping people within their sub-conscious mind. Humans are controlled by other humans through this mind.

2. On the other hand more light seems to liberate humans into their own self awareness/self actualization, i.e. into awareness of their own discriminating mind and their expanded and unbounded mind. Awareness of one's expanded and unbounded mind makes one a God onto himself. Such people cannot, would not and do not serve their fellow man. They cannot be and are never workers or leaders, in any man made endeavors.

This would make humans not at all cooperative to the ideas and agendas of others . . . but certainly wiser and closer to self actualization.

3. The above seems linked to the idea that the tunnel (the black hole portal) to hell has no light at it end. The light of the sun, the moon and stars do not reach hell. Reduced and/or total absence of light are tools of Satan.

On the other hand there is light at the end of the tunnel (the black hole portal) to heaven. Increased light and/or total light are tools of the Lord Jesus.

Please share some information on secret electricity?

Did you say the the pope is using secret electricity? Does this mean that the pope is using reduced light on his followers. This would be true to form.

The sun (light of the sun) is directly linked to spiritual awareness, omniscience and omnipotence, enlightenment in Christ, God and God's kingdom of heaven.

The absence of the sun (the absence of the light of the sun) is linked to the opposite of omniscience and omnipotence. The absence of the sun (the absence of the light of the sun) is linked to being spiritually dead, the law, canons, sin and punishment in hell.

The dead are controlled by the demonic use of Secret Electriciy. Most of the living deny that there is Secret Electricity. But Secret Electricity is a power that the demons crave. It is a power given to Christians. Not these phony 'christians' that you warn us against. Real Christians have this power. We are to use this power to control and defeat the demonic. We are going to control all of the Angelic Host with this Secret Electricity.

Gurucam
November 3rd, 2015, 05:24 AM
The dead are controlled by the demonic use of Secret Electriciy. Most of the living deny that there is Secret Electricity. But Secret Electricity is a power that the demons crave. It is a power given to Christians. Not these phony 'christians' that you warn us against. Real Christians have this power. We are to use this power to control and defeat the demonic. We are going to control all of the Angelic Host with this Secret Electricity.

I am do not know what 'secret electricity' describes. It might be some 'half baked' idea which is being used to keep the spiritually dead in fear and controlled.

However the idea which you raised is a very interesting and informative subject.

I can share it with you in very reasonable details. Just the simple knowing of this information empowers humans.

It has to do with the human brain and the cosmic brain. They are two things that actually exist. They are extremely similar. It has to do with their make up.

Knowing and understanding the actual make up of these brains and the function of all component empowers one.

Many old tradition are centered on supporting/nourishing all the components of both brains which support our three minds.

I will write about it a little latter. I have to attend to another matter at this time.

Gurucam
November 3rd, 2015, 09:35 AM
The dead are controlled by the demonic use of Secret Electriciy. Most of the living deny that there is Secret Electricity. But Secret Electricity is a power that the demons crave. It is a power given to Christians. Not these phony 'christians' that you warn us against. Real Christians have this power. We are to use this power to control and defeat the demonic. We are going to control all of the Angelic Host with this Secret Electricity.

Is this all you know about secret electricity? I do know that such a force exist.

1. The KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

2. The KJV N.T. confirms that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is a perfect amalgam of two things. These are a.) the ideas, beliefs, needs, desires and aspirations of each person's own heart or spirit and b.) the Holy Ghost (i.e. the will of God).

3. This perfect amalgam of a.) the ideas, beliefs, needs, desires and aspirations of each person's own heart or spirit and b.) the Holy Ghost (i.e. the will of God) is described as 'what the Spirit (of Jesus) has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do'.

4.This means that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has a different 'mind' for each persons.

5. The KJV N.T. confirms that one must search one's heart or spirit to come to know 'what the Spirit (of Jesus) has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do'.

6.One who is led into all their works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do' is in Christ. They are Christians. Only they are Christians. They are also described as 'children of God'.

7. The KJV N.T. has no mention of 'secret electricity'. Nor does it mention that 'secret electricity' is a power given to Christians.

8. Please share where you got that idea or belief in the opening quote?

9. Some person (or group of people) seems to be making that up to scare and control their charges . . . and so keep then in servitude under the promise that they need to be protected from the demons?

10. Fact is God is for one who is 'in Christ'. No entity or force can do them any thing.

11. Nothing (not even secret electricity???) can help one. Only coming onto Christ can and will help, protect and deliver, one from All things.

12. One can have Gifts of the Spirit. However even those with these gift can and do misuse them. That is they can and do help the wrong people and can also be overpowered. However being in Christ (being a child of God) enables even these people with Gifts of the Spirit to use their gifts according to the will of God. And so they get absolute protection from God.

13. The KJV N.T. also confirmed that even those with Gift of the Spirit still groan for adoption as children of God. They still groan to be Christians. Only those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus are 'children of God or Christians. Having Gift of the Spirit and even practicing these Gift is nothing. This does not make one a child of God, 'in Christ' and/or Christian.

Gurucam
November 3rd, 2015, 02:03 PM
dialm .

continuing from post 121

Do you know that 'outer space' is a brain similar to our human brain?

Do you know that 'NASA Chandra observatory satellite' was able to capture pictures of this 'not seen' (none physical) fabric of outer-space which exist between and connects the sun and other heavenly bodies. This brain that is outer-space has neuron, neuron media and pathways for nourishment to flow, just like a human brain. Heavenly bodies are nuclei within and part of this cosmic brain.

Apparently outer-space is a huge living brain. As is above, so is bellow.

Prior to this, our modern scientists all believed, promoted and projected that outer-space was all empty space. (this is similar to the 'earth is flat' idea which dominated and ruled in the 1400's). Our modern scientists held that very erroneous belief about outer-space, up to quite recently. Also that erroneous belief informed all their outer-space experiments, programs and activities up to quite recently.

This 'new to them' discovery (that outer-space is living pulsing brain) is probably why they stopped sending humans, physically, into outer-space. It is possible that astronauts realized this fact while in outer-space.

The computer transformation of these pictures of outer-space from 'NASA Chandra observatory satellite' is almost identical to a picture of our own brain.

Fact is, both brains (i.e. the one in outer-space and our own brain) contain living neurons, in living media. There are also pathways for nourishing the neurons and media of both brains.

Both brains supports minds. One is individual and the other cosmic and they are intrinsically matched and connected.

The neurons and media of both brains can and must be perpetually and correctly nourished. This must be actively done in order to sustain highest quality and health of both brains. The health and quality of these brains directly correlates to the health and qualities of the minds which each of them (each brain) support.

The neurons and media of each person's brain can and must be perpetually and correctly nourished so as to sustain each person's mind to its highest expression.

Also neurons and media of the macro outer-space brain can and must be perpetually and correctly nourished so as to sustain the highest expression of the cosmic mind.

Both these brains function through electrical and magnetic impulses. Is what you are calling 'secret electricity' related to this knowledge? Or are you referring to 'kundalini awakening'.

Fact is power does lie in having perfect transmission of electrical impulses in both brains. However this depends directly on perfectly maintained and perfectly functioning brains.

Therefore having power simply starts with knowing how to properly nourish both brains and actually nourishing both brains . . . in the same way that one must know how to nourish and also actually nourish all other organs of our physical body.

Fact is burning things like fossil fuel destroys or sicken components of the (living) cosmic brain This undermine the (living) cosmic mind which the cosmic brain supports. Enough of this activity results in making earth a total hell.

On the other hand burning other appropriate things nourishes the (living) cosmic brain. This strengthens the (living) cosmic mind which the cosmic brain supports. Enough of this activity results in making earth a total heaven.

Earth is a living thing in the living cosmic brain. It is also a living part of the living cosmic brain. Uninformed activity on earth are toxic for earth, in a very 'living' manner. Uninformed activities on earth cause earth to be diseased, in a very living manner. Earth becomes a diseased part in the cosmic brain. Then the cosmic mind must respond to correct the disease in its cosmic brain.

The way in which the cosmic mind can correct this disease in the earth part of its brain can be very detrimental, to those who cause the disease. The 'organisms' responsible for the earth's illness are inevitably entangled with their destructive works on earth. Through this entanglement they are naturally and spontaneously identified and eventually isolated and teleported out of earth. These are generally spiritually dead/mindless people.

The cosmic mind use the same approach which our own mind use to isolate and vanquish organism which cause disease in our human body. Both minds know precisely and accurately which individual organisms are the causative ones with absolute omniscience and omnipotence. There are absolute no secretes any where.

The detective agencies of the creation use vibrations. Each person has a signature vibration which is being transmitted perpetually. These tell each person's eternal 'story' (their history and disposition) loudly and absolutely accurately, in clear cosmic language, all the time.

The macro cosmic mind is all knowing and all powerful. The vibration blue print of each person is the fabric of their entanglement. People on earth who through their uninformed self empowering activities, have actively created disease in earth and in the cosmos cannot hide. Their work is a direct reflection and expression of their entanglement. And their entanglement is a direct reflection and expression of their work.

These are the past leader in all fields on earth. They ruled every where on earth for the past 2000 odd years. Their ideas rules and dominated on earth. Their entanglement and work related to promoting their own physical/material survival and/or prosperity with no regard for 1.) the environment and/or 2.) the liberation of humans onto their higher minds. They were and are all spiritually dead people.

Now the macro creation is fighting back. These erring people will certainly try to run and even hide. However they cannot hide from the ever vibration/pulsing of their own commonly shared entanglement. Individually and accurately, they will all be naturally and spontaneously detected, isolated and teleported out-of-here, in one fraction of a second, soon.

Their identity are fully describes in my other related posts.

This information which I am sharing here, is not known (in its entirety) to even the most well equipped, well recognized, well celebrated and well provided for, modern scientists and other past leaders and the billions entangled with them and their ideas. It is not known in coherence and totality. At least not yet. However it is inevitable that too late will be their cry.

'Too late' will not be the cry of others, who include the informed, helpless and meek (they will inherit earth).

My other writings will be absolutely about heaven on earth.

Gurucam
November 4th, 2015, 07:32 AM
Dialm,

The question is what would life on the surface of earth be like, when God's kingdom of heaven is established here? And when would this be fully established here?

Before seeking to discern the characteristics and qualities that will prevail on earth when God's kingdom of heaven is established here, it is necessary to start here:

The Lord recommended:

Matthew 6 KJV N.T.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
The opening question is precisely focused on, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

The above revelation clearly confirms the following 18 things that are relevant to the opening question:

1. Humans who are children of God, are instructed (by the Lord Jesus) to prayer to their Father who is in heaven. Only children of God can pray to "God, our Father who rules heaven and is in, heaven". All others have to pray to "Satan who rules hell and is in hell".

2. God, our Father is in heaven and He must be reached only in heaven.

Those who (when they die) are buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies are in hell. They are not in heaven. They are also with Satan. They are not with God. They have followed Satan. They are the billions who have followed the ideas of Peter. They are not the few, who have embraced the commission which was exemplified by and rendered onto, Paul. They have not followed the Lord Jesus. The Lord Jesus went to heaven in three days after he died and He is in heaven, with God.

3. God, the Father is Father of all humans who are called to issue this prayer. Indeed those issuing this pray must be able to legitimately refer to God, as 'our' Father. Only children of God can authentically call God, 'our' Father. Children of the flesh cannot refer to God, as 'our' Father.

Children of the flesh are also called 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead). The sad fact is that children of the flesh are children of Satan/Peter. The sad fact is that children of the flesh can legitimately pray only as follows: 'our' father, Satan, who in charge of, controls and is also in hell give us our daily bread through the use of your 'half baked' intellectual and purely physically based ideas . . . . .

Indeed, not all people are authorized to call God 'our' Father. Some people (children of the flesh) must call Satan/Peter their father who controls hell. Satan/Peter also bury his charges in hell. The Lord's prayer is for children of God. The Father of children of God is God who is in (spirit) heaven. Therefore not all people are given to issue this prayer.

Only children of God are given to and can issue the Lord's prayer. However false prophets who came in Jesus' name commonly promote that anyone and everyone can issue this prayer. Children of God are the chosen few from among the billions who are called Christians. However every where billions are told, by false prophets, to pray, the Lord's prayer. Fact s if one is not among the chosen few, one is not a child of God. Then one is child of the flesh, among the (not chosen) billions who are simply erroneously called Christians.

Those who issue this prayer without having the necessary status (i.e. those who are not children of God) are simply wasting time (their own time and the time of others). God cannot and do not hear them. They can never succeed and they do not succeed. Then they 'bad mouth' the prayer and give it a bad name.

Billions are 'saying' this prayer in the hope of getting 'their daily bread'. 'Daily bread' means all one's necessary or basic needs, for man does not live by food alone. Look around you, in what passes for Christian churches. The very great majority of those people (billions) are suffering and very far from actually having their 'daily bread'. Also they are very far from the God's kingdom of heaven. Indeed when they die they are buried in the earth (hell) with their dead physical bodies. Some are already in the earth for 2000 odd years.

Children of the flesh cannot (are not given to) utter the Lord's prayer. They are simply not children of God. Therefore they cannot say 'our' Father.

Only children of God can and are given to utter the Lord's prayer. They are children of God. Therefore they can say, 'our' Father.

:idea: We know that among Abraham's descendants there are both children of the flesh and children of God. Abraham demonstrated how people can and will bring forth both types of children. This ought to be investigated for personal edification. It is not linked to baptism or repeating slogans or even to marriage according to and under the law (i.e. the Ten Commandments).

Those who are led into their procreative sex by the law, bring forth only children of the flesh. Those who are led into their procreative sex by the spirit (even if they have to transgress the law) always bring forth children of God.

The very great majority of people who are called Christians (billions) esteem the law in some form or fashion. They are all under the law. They are not under spirit. Fact is children of God are led by the spirit. Therefore these billions cannot be and are not children of God. They are not given to address God as 'our' Father.

Therefore these billions cannot pray the Lord's prayer. These billions do not have a hope for God's kingdom of heaven. They are all destine to buried in the earth (hell) together with their dead physical bodies, when they die. These facts are literally and completely supported by revelations in the KJV N.T. and the actual practice in what passes for Christianity everywhere.

One does not even have to have 'the eyes to see' these facts that are clearly and literally declared in the KJV N.T. Also the law and not the spirit is clearly esteemed, promoted and practiced by billions who are erroneously called Christians. Yet their leaders misguide them by telling them that they are all children of God. Also they do not follow the Lord Jesus in the regeneration and so rise to heaven in three days after their death on earth. Instead they are buried in the earth (hell) together with their dead physical bodies, when they die.

4. the Father's (God's) will is already being done in 'heaven'.

5. the Father's (God's) will will eventually be done on earth, as it is done in heaven.

6. therefore there is a 'heaven' existing already some where other than earth.

7. heaven is a 'place' where God's will is always done, absolutely and perfectly.

8. eventually God' will will be done on earth, always, absolutely and perfectly.

9. when God's will eventually becomes done on earth, always, absolutely and perfectly, the surface of earth will also be a heaven. Then there will be two heavens. One physical and on the surface of earth. The other spiritual/quantum in the spirit or quantum realm.

Understanding how God's will is done in the spirit ream, so as to create and sustain heaven there is important. This will enable one to understand how God's will can be done on earth, so as to create heaven here. This leads to the answer to the opening question on this post.

10. by issuing this prayer, humans who are children of God, are acknowledging that it is the intent of their Father (God) to have His will done on earth as it is done in heaven.

So here we have it again. God wants his will done on earth, as it is done in heaven. Therefore understanding how God's will is done in the spirit ream, so as to create and sustain heaven there is important. This will enable one to understand how God's will can be done on earth, so as to create heaven here.

For starters we know that God is a Spirit. Therefore He is in spirit heaven. Therefore, since God is a Spirit, every where, including in spirit heaven, the will of God has to do with only the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of His (God's) Spirit.

We know that on earth, humans have two bodies. There is a natural body and a spiritual body.

Also we know that being in God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm, have only spirit bodies. We know that when the chosen few Christians die on earth, they rise in three days to be like angels in heaven. Therefore these chosen few Christians are in spirit heaven, clad only in their spirit bodies.

In spirit heaven, all beings are similar to God, who is a Spirit. Therefore in spirit heaven, only the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of one's spirit can be and are known to and addressed by God. This forms the fabric of doing the will of God there.

Additionally there is no physicality in the spirit realm. Therefore no physical ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations can be or are recognized and addressed in the spirit realm. One must come into a physical earth to have these physically based ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations recognized and addressed. Until then for being in the spirit realm, only spiritual things can be and are recognized and addressed.

This gives us a clear idea of God's focus in His kingdom of heaven in the spirit reality where the chosen few Christians are like angels in that heaven. Let us count this as one important consideration with respect to answering the opening question.

11. by issuing this prayer, humans who are children of God, are acknowledging that the kingdom of heaven that exist in the spirit realm and the kingdom of heaven that is to be established on earth, both belong to God, their Father. These are His kingdom.

For the past 2000 odd years, God did not rule on earth and His kingdom of heaven was not on earth. Earth was ruled by Satan/Peter and their kind and hell was on earth. This has changed recently. Now earth is under the rule of Paul and his kind. Before our eyes, the Old (Peter/Satan and their kind) is dissolving and dyeing to give way to the New (Paul/Christ and their kind).

12. as at 2000 odd years ago, God's kingdom exists of heaven in the spirit realm.

13. as at 2000 odd years ago, God's kingdom of heaven is not on earth.

14. God's kingdom of heaven will definitely come to earth.

15. by issuing this prayer, humans are acknowledging that our Father, God has and hold all power over these two heavens.

16. by issuing this prayer, humans are acknowledging that only our Father, God (not even the Lord Jesus) can be glorified for these two heavens, at all times, since eternity.

17. eventually God' will will be done on earth, always, absolutely and perfectly.

18. God, the Father is the Father of those who must issue that prayer. God the Father is not only the Father of the Lord Jesus.

However when the Lord Jesus was on earth, among those people, he was the only begotten son of God. It seems therefore one must become a child of God in order to issue that prayer. And indeed the Lord laid down the path through which one can become an adopted child of God.

The Lord also confirmed that among Abraham's descendants, there will be both, children of the fleash and children of God. Additionally the Lord indicated that many would be called to be (adopted) children of God but few will be chosen.

Children of the flesh are not children of God. God is Father of only children of God. Therefore God, the Father is not the Father of children of the flesh. Satan/Peter is 'the father' of children of the flesh.

Since only a few are chosen, especially from among Abraham's descendants, God, the Father cannot be and is not, the Father of the great majority of Abraham's descendants.

God, the Father is the Father of only a few (the chosen few) of Abraham's descendants. And only these chosen few can pray this prayer for only they can authentically address God, the Father, as 'our' Father.
We know from other revelation in the KJV N.T. that:
- Our Father who is in heaven is God.
- God the Father is also Father of the Lord Jesus.
The above must form some of the basis for discerning the characteristics and qualities that will prevail on earth when God's kingdom of heaven is established here.

What is your view, Dialm?

dialm
November 5th, 2015, 11:39 PM
In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

Now I want to be very clear on this subject of secret electricity. It is not the ability to work miracles. That is superstition. I'm not saying that all superstition is totally false. I'm just saying that superstition is not for Christians.

Secret electricity is Angel food. It is what powers the Angels. If a human taps into secret electricity it will destroy that person's life. The best thing to do is to ignore secret electricity. Or maybe even better, to deny there is such a thing.

Gurucam
November 7th, 2015, 04:44 AM
In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

Now I want to be very clear on this subject of secret electricity. It is not the ability to work miracles. That is superstition. I'm not saying that all superstition is totally false. I'm just saying that superstition is not for Christians.

Secret electricity is Angel food. It is what powers the Angels. If a human taps into secret electricity it will destroy that person's life. The best thing to do is to ignore secret electricity. Or maybe even better, to deny there is such a thing.

Where did you get the idea that one person can pray for another?

That is not a Christian concept.

That is not supported by any revelation in the KJV N.T.

That is the teachings of false prophets who have been and continue ti misled the very great majority of the billions called to Christianity.

There is only one path through which a human can achieve communion or connection with God. It is only through this pathway that God can hear one and one can hear God.

No one come onto God but through the Lord Jesus. This means that each person must come onto God only by going personally, through the Lord Jesus. This is through the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus.

The most significant thing about the Christian pathway is that it has absolute no provision for one person praying for another. Each person is on his own and must achieve his own individual communion with the Spirit of Lord Jesus in order to be heard by or reach God. To tell you or promote, any thing different, is to serve the Antichrist/Satan and to also seriously and terminally misled you.

The basis of Christianity is that each person must (through his own spirit) have his own connection with God (who is the Holy Spirit) through only the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Not through another person.

They can be no divine help for any one who does not have the above individual and personalized intuitive communion or connection. However 'too late is the cry' for the very great majority. Many who have not seek out and achieve this communion during their vibrant years find out that they are not known or supported by God when it is too late. That is when they are too feeble and in desperate need.

People praying for people, is foolishness with God. That is people simply fooling each other. In fact that is even more seriously wrong. When a person pray for another person, he is attempting to make intercession with God on behalf of that person. This is Antichrist/Satanic. Jesus left very clear instruction as follows.

No one come onto God but through the Lord Jesus. This means that each person must come onto God only by going personally, through the Lord Jesus.

To promote and practice 'praying for someone' is Antichrist and Satanic. It help nothing. The most that anyone can do is show one or introduce one to: the path through which one can achieve communion with the Lord Jesus.

In Christianity no human can (or is given to) come between another person and God.

No human can (or is given to) intercede between another person and God.

No human can (or is given to) pray for another person and God.

To pray for another person is to deny, persecute, blaspheme and crucify the Lord Jesus.

At any event those who 'pray' for others are generally people who misled by false prophets and are themselves without Grace of God.

dialm
November 7th, 2015, 05:14 AM
Satan would sift Peter. But Christ did pray the Father.

You must give up your quest for secret electricity. Instead come my way. I'm marching to Zion. The Master has laid out the path. We will be successful.

Gurucam
November 7th, 2015, 05:28 AM
Satan would sift Peter. But Christ did pray the Father.

You must give up your quest for secret electricity. Instead come my way. I'm marching to Zion. The Master has laid out the path. We will be successful.

In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

Now I want to be very clear on this subject of secret electricity. It is not the ability to work miracles. That is superstition. I'm not saying that all superstition is totally false. I'm just saying that superstition is not for Christians.

Secret electricity is Angel food. It is what powers the Angels. If a human taps into secret electricity it will destroy that person's life. The best thing to do is to ignore secret electricity. Or maybe even better, to deny there is such a thing.
It is quite simple:

If you quote, where, in the KJV N.T., the instruction is: "Gurucam pray for dialm" (or a related instruction) I will oblige. If you can't then clearly you are misled and trying to misled me.

Fact is no one come onto to God but through the Lord Jesus. This is through a direct individualized connection between one own spirit and the Spirit, 'not seen' eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. The kingdom of God is within. It is there you will find both Jesus and God, at this time.

Reaching God is certainly not through another human on earth. Also this is certainly not through Peter & Co.

The Lord Jesus rose to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body and left His Christian church in the 'hand' of His 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Spirit. This Spirit must be discerned and communed with through one's own heart or spirit. That is this Spirit must be discerned and communed with "within"

God is reached in His kingdom, which is within the individual heart or spirit of each person. And one must go through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus within one's own heart or spirit to reach and communion with, God.

One should wake up to this fact and embrace this fact, before too late is the cry.

Don't you realize that by denying the above you are denying, persecuting, blaspheming, torturing and crucifying the Lord Jesus, perpetually and all over again and again.

No one can find or reach God in pray groups or through pray groups. Abandon that foolishness. Foolishness with God is misleading the very great majority (billions) of those called to Christianity into err and to be not chosen.

Help the masses onto Truth, do not drag them down with Antichrist/Satanic ideas.

You said and I quote: "In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?"

I am asking you to show me, in the KJV N.T., where Christians were instructed (or allowed) to pray for others. . . . please edify me.

The instruction is: search your heart or spirit to know what the Spirit of Truth has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do. There is nothing to indicate that a Christian can initiate anything out of his own volition. A Christian is simply obediently led into all his prays and his actions by the Spirit. A Christians is not given by God to know who he can and should pray for.

Fact is billions who are falsely called Christians are paying for Satan and Satan's children, simply because they do not know for who they should pray. The Lord's instruction is very clear. The Lord confirmed that: 'because of one's infirmities, one would not know what to pay for etc.' Why would you pray for things out of your own volition and advise others to do so and then claim to regard and honor the Lord Jesus?

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Do you recognize the above revelation or do you simply deny, persecute, blaspheme and throw that revelation out the 'window'?

And indeed where did you get this 'secret electricity' thing? Are you making that up?

There is nothing secret or sinister about electricity. There is electricity and an accompanying magnetic field which is infused with electricity. This field is connecting every where and every thing in the creation. The magnetic field is one of attraction. It is like a grid. There is also an electron-magnetic field which arises and can be sustained anywhere and every where in the creation. Electricity, magnetism and electromagnetism, have always existed. The existence and use of these were know to spiritually aware humans, including children of God (i.e. authentic Christians) from the beginning of time and all through time. This filed is used only by humans who have transcended their sub-conscious mind and operates through their expanded and unbounded minds.

Peter & Co. are 'johnny come lately' to know about this field. However they cannot actually function in or use this field. To late will be their cry. There are many people on earth and in the spirit heaven realm. These people are 'light years' more advance than Peter & Co. and their followers, in this field. All Peter's deceased charades are in the earth, in hell. Peter & Co. are the dead who buried their dead. Peter & Co. have no one in spirit heaven. All their deceased charges are spiritually dead and in the earth in hell.

The large following which Peter & Co. have is through conditioning. These follower are stuck in their sub-conscious mind. They are conditioned with the ideas of Peter & Co. This approach operated like the law. This has absolutely nothing to do with electricity and the accompanying magnetic field which is infused with electricity. The thing of Peter & Co. (i.e. their means of holding/possessing their followings) is 'dead people thing' for spiritually dead people. It is based on conditioning the fear based sub-conscious minds of their charges. This is for those who bury their dead in the earth with their dead physical bodies

Electricity and the accompanying magnetic field is for spiritually aware people. This has nothing to do with one's sub-conscious mind. This is recognized and used only through one expanded and unbounded mind which is spirit and Truth based. This is for those who rise in three days after death, to be like angels in heaven. Do not be confusing and/or fooling your self.

Only the chosen few followed the Lord Jesus to spirit heaven, in three days, after they died. They followed the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus. Only they are Christians and differed in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is Lord of all). These Christians, who are in heaven, are competent in the use of this field. However the Lord Jesus and these chosen few Christians who are in heaven, are enemies of Peter & Co.

The commission of the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus was rendered onto Peter & Co. This is the commission for the spiritually dead. This is the commission of the dead who will bury their dead.

The commission of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus was rendered onto only Paul. This commission is totally different from the commission that was rendered onto Peter. This (Paul's commission) is the Lord Jesus' Christian tradition. This is the commission for spiritually aware people who become Christians in their current life time. These people differ in no way from the Lord Jesus (except that Jesus is lord of all). When these people (who are the only actual Christians) die on earth they can and do follow the Lord Jesus (in three days) to spirit heaven. That is, when they die they rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like angels in heaven. When Peter's people dies they are buried in the earth (hell) with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely.

Peter & Co. and their charges have consistently and deliberately denied, persecuted, blasphemed and relegated the Spirit existence or side of the Lord Jesus and this is not forgivable at any place or time. The Spirit existence or side of the Lord Jesus is, the Lord Jesus clad in only His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body. Where as one might blaspheme the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus and be forgiven. In His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body format, the Lord is entailed to all things due to the Holy Ghost. And denial, persecution and blasphemy of the Lord in this Spirit only format is not forgivable at any place or time.

Apart from the electric and magnetic field, there is another filed which connects every where and every thing in the creation. This field is more subtle and more powerful than the electricity and the magnetic field. It is also a grid. This field is called consciousness.

dialm
November 7th, 2015, 08:15 AM
My LORD said unto my Lord, sit down on my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Give up on your angle friend Gurucam.

JonahofAkron
November 7th, 2015, 08:30 AM
My LORD said unto my Lord, sit down on my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Give up on your angle friend Gurucam.

That dude is crazy.

Gurucam
November 7th, 2015, 09:00 AM
My LORD said unto my Lord, sit down on my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.

Give up on your angle friend Gurucam.

In my spirit I have been praying for you Gurucam. Are you praying for me?

You are making false accusations. I have and hold no angle. I simply quote the KJV N.T. as is.

You have an O.T. angle which you are bringing to the N.T. Christian tradition. Are you denying this obvious fact?

It is clearly confirmed that a Christian, cannot in a any way, choose to offer pray according to one's own judgment.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Christians were warned about the like of you:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
You are called to show the err in the above revelations.

The Spirit makes intercession only according to groanings (within each person's heart) which cannot be uttered. The instruction is simply to let go and let God. One must stay quiet and let the spirit decide. You cannot and do not decides with who the Spirit with intercede with God on your behalf. The Spirit simply read your heart and intercedes with God with certain things in your heart. There is no prays.

Then your job is to simply discern, precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for you. Then be simply led into your works by only that.

The Lord never decided what he would pray for or do. On that one rear occasion, Jesus utter his prays as follows:

Luke: 22 KJV N.T.
42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
This was the one exception, not the rule and it was no absolute request. It was a qualified request. Also, at any event, God, the Father did not in any way entertain Jesus' request. It simply does not work that way. You quoted the Lord Jesus as praying to the Father for deliverance from a single, torturous, physically painful, serious and solitary (death) request. However the fact is Jesus (an ideal human) was ignore by God, the Father. Did you not get the message?

Fact is the Lord probably issued that prayer to demonstrate that pray request of that kind is not entertained by God, the Father. It seems that one must have 'the ears to hear' and 'the eyes to see' that fact.

At least it should occur to you that the Lord Jesus came among those people with a very clear and very preordained agenda which prays could not and cannot change. This must be true for all people who becomes Christians. Christians cannot simply up and pray for something or some one. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus addresses and facilitates only things that are long preexisting in one's spirit. Jesus' prayer experience confirms this fact.

The Lord Jesus could not change his preordained mission or preordained direction, with a prayer request. He had to be denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and murdered and that was that. This was the fact of the matter. This is the typical Christian way. This is the way of all children of God. They are not all called to serve Jesus' agenda. However they are all called to serve their spirits according to the Holy Spirit. Indication in the KJV N.T. is that it is all preordained.

Additionally you are not open to revelations in the KJV N.T.

You are clearly committed to, conditioned by and taken in with, your own Lord Peter & Co. Jesus sought to tell you that Peter cannot help anyone into heaven. Fact is, Peter's commission is confirmed in 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5. This is backed up by the fact that the Lord Jesus clearly confirmed that Peter was Satan. This is also confirmed by the 2000 odd years practice of Peter & Co. in which they deliver all their dead charges into the depths of earth which is hell, together with their dead physical bodies, to be with Satan indefinitely. Time to wake up and smell the aroma of Truth.

Clearly you are no fan of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Clearly you are no fan of becoming an authentic Christian who differed in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is Lord of all). Therefore you are no fan of rising in three days,after your death, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like an angel in heaven.

I must ask: Did you come to engage my post as a spy so as to return me to bondage under your differing ideas and beliefs? Was this your agenda?

. . . . I am simply asking the question which must be asked.

Fact is, only those people who plan to be and will be buried in the earth with their dead physical bodies, ever seek to pray for some one else. They are the (spiritually) dead who has no clue of the Spirit way. Generally they are the most unfortunate and cannot help themselves but they believe that they can pray for some one else. This is their very sad predicament.

Gurucam
November 7th, 2015, 12:13 PM
Dialm,

The aim must be to connect aspiring Christians with the correct path to Christianity, as clearly confirmed, literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

It is also to bring aspiring Christians into accurate knowledge of the mechanics of Christianity, also as clearly confirmed literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

Christianity is anchored on the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is also linked to rising in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like an angel in heaven, when one dies. This is the commission that was rendered onto only Paul.

Christianity is not linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. Also Christianity is not linked to being buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body when on dies, to wait indefinitely. Peter's commission is linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus and also linked to the ideal of the dead burying their dead. This is the commission for the dead.

'The dead' means spiritually dead. They are 'children of the flesh'. They are under the law and canons etc. These are their school master until they come onto spiritual awareness and Christ.

Christians are not children of the flesh. Christians are children of God. They are led by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Also the KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are not under righteousness of God that is with the law. The KJV N.T, confirms that hell is the inevitable destination for those under the law. All who are under the law fall short of the glory of God. This is the curse of the law . . . a confirmed destination in hell. What so ever the law says, it say only to those who are under the law. It is not like one must be under the law, which is certain doom.

The Lord Jesus has made righteousness of God that is without the law, available. This is through His Spirit. For the past 2000 odd years, this option existed. However only a few, the chosen few, embraced this guaranteed sinless option.

The KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are under righteousness of God that is without the law. This does not mean that these people will be forgiven when they transgress the law. This means that sin has no dominion over these people. It means that they are not under the law. It means that the law does not exist for them. That is, when they transgress the law no sin is incurred. They get no sin therefore forgiveness of sin does not apply. This is because they are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are Christians. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

Additionally, the Lord Jesus clearly confirmed that all revelations in the KJV N.T. must be separated into two sections. One is for 'the dead who bury their dead' and the other is for 'those who follow the Lord Jesus'.

No Maths is required to determine that the Lord rose to heaven in three days and therefore this is how one must follow the Lord.

Clearly being buried in the earth, with Satan, together with one's physical body, to wait indefinitely is how the dead bury their dead. This cannot be and is not how one follows the Lord Jesus (in the regeneration).

Are you not interested in getting it right? Are you interested in recognizing, confirming and promoting truth as it appears literally and clearly in the KJV N.T.?

Your aim seems to be, to some how undermine my posts (which are literal revelations in the KJV N.T. You seem to want to continue to hold and comfortably promote your familiar ideas as Christianity . . . when in fact they are not Christian ideas at all. Don't you fear the wrath of the Lord Jesus and God?

Can't you take an ego-less look at the revelations in the KJV N.T.? Can't you transcend all your Old erroneous concepts of Christianity and so take a fresh 'ego-less' look at the KJV N.T.?

Why would you want to be taken down by your Old erroneous concepts of Christianity? Why would you want to 'go down' with your Old erroneous concepts of Christianity.

JonahofAkron
November 7th, 2015, 01:23 PM
Dialm,

The aim must be to connect aspiring Christians with the correct path to Christianity, as clearly confirmed, literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

It is also to bring aspiring Christians into accurate knowledge of the mechanics of Christianity, also as clearly confirmed literally and plainly in the KJV N.T.

Christianity is anchored on the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is also linked to rising in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like an angel in heaven, when one dies. This is the commission that was rendered onto only Paul.

Christianity is not linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. Also Christianity is not linked to being buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body when on dies, to wait indefinitely. Peter's commission is linked to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus and also linked to the ideal of the dead burying their dead. This is the commission for the dead.

'The dead' means spiritually dead. They are 'children of the flesh'. They are under the law and canons etc. These are their school master until they come onto spiritual awareness and Christ.

Christians are not children of the flesh. Christians are children of God. They are led by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Also the KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are not under righteousness of God that is with the law. The KJV N.T, confirms that hell is the inevitable destination for those under the law. All who are under the law fall short of the glory of God. This is the curse of the law . . . a confirmed destination in hell. What so ever the law says, it say only to those who are under the law. It is not like one must be under the law, which is certain doom.

The Lord Jesus has made righteousness of God that is without the law, available. This is through His Spirit. For the past 2000 odd years, this option existed. However only a few, the chosen few, embraced this guaranteed sinless option.

The KJV N.T. confirms that Christians are under righteousness of God that is without the law. This does not mean that these people will be forgiven when they transgress the law. This means that sin has no dominion over these people. It means that they are not under the law. It means that the law does not exist for them. That is, when they transgress the law no sin is incurred. They get no sin therefore forgiveness of sin does not apply. This is because they are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are Christians. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

Additionally, the Lord Jesus clearly confirmed that all revelations in the KJV N.T. must be separated into two sections. One is for 'the dead who bury their dead' and the other is for 'those who follow the Lord Jesus'.

No Maths is required to determine that the Lord rose to heaven in three days and therefore this is how one must follow the Lord.

Clearly being buried in the earth, with Satan, together with one's physical body, to wait indefinitely is how the dead bury their dead. This cannot be and is not how one follows the Lord Jesus (in the regeneration).

Are you not interested in getting it right? Are you interested in recognizing, confirming and promoting truth as it appears literally and clearly in the KJV N.T.?

Your aim seems to be, to some how undermine my posts (which are literal revelations in the KJV N.T. You seem to want to continue to hold and comfortably promote your familiar ideas as Christianity . . . when in fact they are not Christian ideas at all. Don't you fear the wrath of the Lord Jesus and God?

Can't you take an ego-less look at the revelations in the KJV N.T.?

So many things wrong that I don't know where to begin.

dialm
November 7th, 2015, 02:37 PM
So many things wrong that I don't know where to begin.

It is backward masking. Someone is calling on the dark side. A certain calling forth from the pit.

Gurucam
November 7th, 2015, 03:17 PM
So many things wrong that I don't know where to begin.

It is backward masking. Someone is calling on the dark side. A certain calling forth from the pit.

It is not hopeless, unless one seeks to justify and remain in one's Old ways.

Love is the answer. It is all about love.

The world has lost love.

Love has been replaced by ideals and laws (including the law and canons).

Ideals and laws are 'dead people' tools. 'Dead people' are the spiritually dead. Ideals and laws killeth (spiritual awareness). Spiritual 'dead-ness' makes one contained, selfish, self-serving and totally physically centered.

For example, man/woman associations among the spiritually dead is centered naturally and spontaneously only in sex and jumping in bed for sex. However among spiritually aware people their associations are naturally and spontaneously centered on prolong honing of love, emotions and feelings and also prolong expression of love, emotions and feelings.

Traditional Christianity have been trying to impose the latter practice on their charges by forcing abstention from sex until marriage. This is simply cosmetic. Physical sex is the only expression among spiritual dead couples. Their sexual act, whether in or out of marriage will always be purely physical and bring forth only children of the flesh.

The idea is to actualize the spiritually dead to spiritual awareness. Then physical sex will be always done out of an expression of love. Whether or not this is done in or out of marriage, it does not matter. Their sexual procreation will always be an expression of their love and will bring forth only children of God. This is where one need to be. This defines a Christian life style.

Love is the tool of the living. The living describes the spiritually aware. The Spirit/Love giveth life. Love makes one spiritually alive or spiritually aware. Spiritual awareness makes one expanded, expanding, loving, out flowing and all including.

Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws (like the ten commandments etc.) to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from loving freely, openly and fully. Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws (like the ten commandments etc.) to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from expressing your love freely, openly and fully.

This (the above) is not a simple request. It is a request to dismiss and go against all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity, in order to obey urging of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within your heart or spirit for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

In essence this is to be led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is a perfect amalgam of 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations of each person's heart or spirit and 2. the will of God. The will of God is the Holy Spirit. God is Love therefore the will of God are 'urgings of love. Since the Spirit of the Lord Jesus incorporates the will of God, then the above urgings of Love are the essential fabric of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

One who is led into one's actions by urgings of love in the above manner is being led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Such a one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments) and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. This is Christianity. Only this is Christianity.

This goes against all prevailing social, moral and religious norm. However, this is the only way to be relevant and survive in, the new spiritual age which now rules the surface of earth. As you may realize that one cannot simply take a decision to do the above and do so. One must be driven uncontrollable, powerfully and confidently to do so.

Indeed that which were glorious during the past 2000 odd years (i.e. prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity, including the Ten Commandments) are now done away with in exchange for what is even more glorious (i.e. the Spirit of the Lord Jesus). Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (including the Ten Commandments) and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

The very sad fact is that this option (i.e. under the Spirit of the Lord Jesus) was available for the past 2000 odd years but only a few embraced it. The very great majority (billions) who were called to Christianity choose to remain under the law, sin and punishment in hell. They all discern 'wisdom' in the law. They therefore esteemed the law. Then they actively undermined the Spirit of the Lord Jesus approach and also actively misinterpreted the KJV N.T. so as to favorably support their choice. They simply and seriously misled themselves whiles blaspheming the Holy Ghost.

To access and embrace righteousness of God that is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus requires a transformation. This is not achieve simply by parroting words without heart or spirit awareness. It is in (spiritual) power or (spiritual) actualization. One must be transformed from being spiritually dead to being spiritual aware.

This (the above) relates to a shifting of mind. One must shift from one's sub-conscious mind to one's expanded and unbounded mind. And retain that shift or awareness. One's sub-conscious mind is anchored on physicality. One's expanded and unbounded mind is anchored in spirit. This shift is the first step. It is called being 'born again'.

Those who esteem ideals and laws are loveless.

Those who delight in laws are the spiritually dead. They are naturally disconnected. They are dead. They are by nature heartless. They also delight in intellectualizing. They use ideals and laws to justify wars, starvation, destruction of the life sustaining aspect of the creation and division in the world. The spiritually dead also use ideals and laws to sustain their loveless marriages.

A spiritually dead person commonly and easily use prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (in conjunction with fear) to keep a spouse locked in marriage with him or her. Then together, in their loveless marriage and loveless procreation, they bring forth only children of the flesh (no children of God).

The spiritually aware are intuits. They are 'hearts' people. They are naturally 'connected'. They are spiritually aware and connected. They delight in love.

On earth, for the past 2000 odd years, intellectualizing (law orientation) has replaced and totally relegated intuiting (love orientation). That defined a totally dark age.

This has changed. Intuiting and love are reclaiming their supreme position.

Survival can be had only individually. By each person returning to the supremacy of love.

Everyone is connected by love.

Ideals and laws oppress love and divide mankind, everywhere. Ideals and laws ruled supreme (over love) more or less every where on earth for the past 2000 odd years. This was the Age of the spiritually dead/intellectual/physicality.

The surface of earth is now in the Age of Intuits/the spiritually aware/love/spirit and Spirit. Those who cannot cope will be out-of-here. The basis of both, spirit and Spirit is Love.

However one cannot simply decide to love. One has to regain one's awareness of love which exists and connect one to everyone else. This is the same as becoming spiritually aware. Spirit is intrinsically love. This also relates to one's expanded and unbounded mind.

Fact is if one can transcend one's subconscious mind, one will rise to one's expanded and unbounded mind. Then one will naturally, spontaneously and actually feel one's love connection to everyone else. One's love will not be containable. This experience is a fundamental dimension of spiritual awareness. Spiritual awareness is awareness of one's own individualized spirit.

Awareness of one's own spirit is a platform. The spirit world open up to one. It is only from this platform that one can advance further into the next step. The next step is to connect with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus (in spirit heaven) through one's own spirit. Then only through this (all spirit based) communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus the following happens: One come to know the Holy Spirit and also one become known to the Holy Spirit.

However becoming spiritually aware must come first. (i.e. 'the dead' must first awaken to his or her own spirit or heart). The spiritually dead must awaken to spiritual awareness. Only then will one awaken to and actually know love.

Then one will actually know what it means to love thy neighbor.

Until one achieves the above transformation 'love thy neighbor' remains simply an intellectual concept in the head of individuals. There is no heart knowing of this ideology. Without heart knowing of 'love thy neighbor', it is totally useless. Love is pure a heart or spirit thing. Love is not a 'head' thing.

It is common in traditional Christianity to attempt to rationalize love motivated behavior. There is no predictable or other behavior related to urging of Love/God. Urging of Love/God respect and uphold no ideal or law. Urging of Love/God opposes and undermine the intellectual wisdom of humans.

It is through urging of love that God makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise. Urgings of love arise and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within the hearts or spirit of people for very specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation. This renders humans helplessly impervious to the (intellectual) logic of the 'wise'.

The above is how God makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise. This is also how God guides one into relationships and associations which He has approved for one. However only the spiritually aware can access and use this direct guidance guidance of God which is discerned only through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The dead are left hopelessly, under the generalized dictates of the law, sin, punishment in hell and canons.

The Spirit of God, as the above urgings of love respect no ideal or law, not even the ten commandments. And certainly not the wisdom of any man. The Spirit of God, as these urgings of Love makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise.

1 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
Truly spiritually aware people can do nothing but simply obey these urgings of love. They are helpless.

God as these urgings of Love enslaves His children. God as Love, 'love ties-up' His children with other specific children of His and certain things and circumstances in His creation. However this enslavement is not like what humans do to other humans. By giving in to this God endorsed 'love' enslavement one enters God's kingdom of heaven, on earth and elsewhere and exist in bliss.

Associations and relationships formed through unconditional obedience to these urgings of love are perfectly conformed to two things. 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each person's individual heart or spirit and 2. the will of God (which is the Holy Spirit). Therefore these associations and relationships are platforms for the material expression and fulfillment of one's real ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations whiles simultaneously doing precisely what God wills for one. This defines a life in God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

Thise spiritually aware people who are also children of God obey these urgings of love unconditionally. This is literally unconditional obedience to God.

If necessary, children of God will walk away from old associations (old marriages and children) into order to form these new love unions. They will do so even if these old ones were originally love unions and urgings of love have now waned. No ideal or law or logic can deny or derail these urgings of love which arose and are sustained in the hearts of spirit of children of God. In this way God's makes foolishness of the wisdom of the wise.

It is on the bases of the above that 'love thy neighbor' is possible. . . . . this need more explanation which I can and will provide.

Therefore 'love thy neighbor' is not, at all, relevant or applicable to, the spiritually dead (i.e. one who operates only through 'intellectualizing and his sub-conscious mind).

A spiritually dead person would not have a heart knowing of anything. He would not be aware of love's urging within his heart or spirit. Also he cannot confess the Lord Jesus with his mouth while knowing/believing with his heart.

Abba's songs and music seems magical for awakening love. It awaken one to one's expanded and unbounded mind. (this is my personal experience. I was reluctant to add it here.)

The entire Christian tradition is anchored on spirit and Spirit. The essential fabric of spirit and Spirit is love. 2000 years ago the Lord sought to reintroduce love to those essentially loveless people. The Lord sought to introduce the rule of love over ideals and laws. They denied, persecute, torture, blasphemed and killed him for his effort.

Now the rule of love over ideals and laws cannot be stopped on earth.

You are aware that God is Love. God is simply reclaiming the surface of earth. Adapt or be relegated. One's relevance is not in words. It is in power. One cannot simply say that one will love. One must have the natural power or drive to love.

This natural power or drive to love comes from spiritual awareness.

If a person is not spiritually aware he will discern ideals and laws to be wise and supreme. Then although he cannot experience love's urging, he will always override love's urging (of others) with ideals and laws. He will oppress and rule spiritually aware/loving people with the strong stick of ideals and laws. This is both, anti Christian and anti-God.

Traditional Christianity have been doing this for millenniums. They have been creating and sustaining law based, loveless union among their charges, for millenniums. Nothing works without love. Also in loveless marriages, no children of God are brought forth, only children of the flesh are brought forth. This nonsense will now stop.

Fact is loveless procreative sex is a grave sin. At all events it bring forth only 'children of the flesh'. The aim of the Lord Jesus and God is to have children of God inherit earth without any children of the flesh. This will create and sustain God's kingdom of heaven on earth. The time for this is at hand.

This does not mean that loveless procreative sex will no longer be permitted. It simply means that soon there will be no human on earth capable of having loveless procreative sex. These are spiritually dead people (also called children of the flesh). Also no children of the flesh will be brought forth to the surface of this earth. And those children of the flesh who are already here will be teleported out of here to an already existing parallel earth that is conformed to their ideas, beliefs and way of life.

Loveless procreative sex will continue among children of the flesh on that parallel earth. That parallel earth is spiritually dead and entangled with the ideas of children of the flesh. Currently it is inhabited by children of the flesh. Eventually all children of the flesh will live on that parallel earth. No children of the flesh will be left on this earth. Only children of God would be on this earth.

JonahofAkron
November 7th, 2015, 06:54 PM
It is not hopeless, unless one seeks to justify and remain in one's Old ways.

Love is the answer. It is all about love.

The world has lost love.

Love has been replaced by ideals and laws (including the law and canons).

Ideals and laws are 'dead people' tools. 'Dead people' are the spiritually dead. Ideals and laws killeth (spiritual awareness). Spiritual 'dead-ness' makes one contained, selfish, self-serving and totally physically centered.

For example, man/woman associations among the spiritually dead is centered naturally and spontaneously only in sex and jumping in bed for sex. However among spiritually aware people their associations are naturally and spontaneously centered on prolong honing and prolong expression of love, emotions and feelings.

Traditional Christianity have been trying to impose the latter practice on their charges by forcing abstention from sex until marriage. This is simply cosmetic. Physical sex is the only expression among spiritual dead couples. Their sexual act, whether in or out of marriage will always be purely physical and bring forth only children of the flesh.

The idea is to actualize the spiritually dead to spiritual awareness. Then physical sex will be always done out of an expression of love. Whether or not this is done in or out of marriage, it does not matter. Their sexual procreation will always be an expression of their love and will bring forth only children of God. This is where one need to be. This defines a Christian life style.

Love is the tool of the living. The living describes the spiritually aware. The Spirit/Love giveth life. Love makes one spiritually alive or spiritually aware. Spiritual awareness makes one expanded, expanding, loving, out flowing and all including.

Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from loving freely, openly and fully. Do not let your spouse, your boss, your priest etc. quote ideals and laws to keep you 'in check' and so prevent you from expressing your love freely, openly and fully.

This (the above) is not a simple request. It is a request to dismiss and go against all prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity, in order to obey urging of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within your heart or spirit for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

In essence this is to be led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. One who is led in this manner has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

This goes against all prevailing social, moral and religious norm. However, this is the only way to be relevant and survive in, the new spiritual age which now rules the surface of earth. As you may realize that one cannot simply take a decision to do the above and do so. One must be driven uncontrollable, powerfully and confidently to do so.

This requires a transformation from being spiritually dead to being spiritual aware. This relates to a shifting of mind. One must shift from one's sub-conscious mind to one's expanded and unbounded mind. And retain that shift or awareness.

Those who esteem ideals and laws are loveless.

Those who delight in laws are the spiritually dead. They are naturally disconnected. They are dead. They are by nature heartless. They also delight in intellectualizing. They use ideals and laws to justify wars, starvation, destruction of the life sustaining aspect of the creation and division in the world. The spiritually dead also use ideals and laws to sustain their loveless marriages.

A spiritually dead person commonly and easily use prevailing ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity (in conjunction with fear) to keep a spouse locked in marriage with him or her. Then together, in their loveless marriage and loveless procreation, they bring forth only children of the flesh (no children of God).

The spiritually aware are intuits. They are 'hearts' people. They are naturally 'connected'. They are spiritually aware and connected. They delight in love.

On earth, for the past 2000 odd years, intellectualizing (law orientation) has replaced and totally relegated intuiting (love orientation). That defined a totally dark age.

This has changed. Intuiting and love are reclaiming their supreme position.

Survival can be had only individually. By each person returning to the supremacy of love.

Everyone is connected by love.

Ideals and laws oppress love and divided mankind, everywhere.

However one cannot simply decide to love. One as to regain one's awareness of love which exists and connect one to everyone else.

Fact is if one can transcend one's subconscious mind, one will rise to one's expanded and unbounded mind. Then one will naturally, spontaneously and actually feel one's love connection to everyone else. One's love will not be containable.

Then one will actually know what it means to love thy neighbor.

Abba's songs and music seems magical for awakening love. It awaken one to one's expanded and unbounded mind. (this is my personal experience. I was reluctant to add it here.)

The entire Christian tradition is anchored on spirit and Spirit. The essential fabric of spirit and Spirit is love. 2000 years ago the Lord sought to reintroduce love to those essentially loveless people. The Lord sought to introduce the rule of love over ideals and laws. They denied, persecute, torture, blasphemed and killed him for his effort.

Now the rule of love over ideals and laws cannot be stopped on earth.

You are aware that God is Love. God is simply reclaiming the surface of earth. Adapt or be relegated. One's relevance is not in words. It is in power. One cannot simply say that one will love. One must have the natural power or drive to love.

This natural power or drive to love comes from spiritual awareness.

If a person is not spiritually aware he will discern ideals and laws to be wise and supreme. Then although he cannot experience love's urging, he will always override love's urging (of others) with ideals and laws. He will oppress and rule spiritually aware/loving people with the strong stick of ideals and laws. This is both, anti Christian and anti-God.

Traditional Christianity have been doing this for millenniums. They have been creating and sustaining law based, loveless union among their charges, for millenniums. Nothing works without love. Also in loveless marriages, no children of God are brought forth, only children of the flesh are brought forth. This nonsense will now stop.

You fit right in with the new age gurus..... Is that where you got your name?

dialm
November 9th, 2015, 05:52 AM
I have read your horoscope Gurucam. It says

"You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

This saying was written on The Wall. Where I did witness several people climbing over so as to leave the Master's garden path. Once they finally made it over The Wall I could no longer see them. I could only hear their screams of agony. After a while their groanings began to fade and I began to weep also. But my tears were turned to joy as I once again continued my journey leaving the sons of perdition behind.

Gurucam
November 9th, 2015, 03:17 PM
You fit right in with the new age gurus..... Is that where you got your name?

'New Age' or not. You have to face the following Christian Truth and make a public confession and explaination:

The Lord Jesus instructed a disciple (i.e. one who was chosen to be Christian), 'let the dead bury their dead but you follow me'.

The question is have you been burying your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates in the earth with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely?

This mean that your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates were buried by their dead counterparts. This would make you the dead who is burying his dead. Do you do this thing? "Why do you do this thing?"

Under that approach which you seem to have loyally served, all your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates are in hell with Satan. None are in heaven. None are in heaven with the Lord Jesus and God.

This would also mean that your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates did not follow the Lord Jesus. That is, when they died on earth, they did not rise in three day, like the Lord Jesus, to like angels in heaven.

There is only one way to follow the Lord Jesus. He rose to heaven, in three days, clad only in His Spirit body. Clearly that is not in any way about, being buried in the earth, which is hell, with Satan.

You cannot afford to knock the 'New Age' movement. Clearly you would be far better off joining the New Age' movement. Indeed anything would be better than what you are doing to your own family members, relatives, friends and associates.

You have sent your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates to Satan in hell. Under that system some unfortunate people have spent only 40 or so years on earth but are in the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan, for 2000 odd years, so far. None are in heaven.

Are you not even willing to consider that you were totally fooled (i.e. outsmarted) by Satan? How can you continue to be confident in your own judgment? Can you be trusted with your own innocent or other children.

Have you been totally careless? Did you not read the KJV N.T. yourself. Did you simply let people fool you? Did people simply tell you what they like and you were simply led to do what they led you to do. Satan is cunning. However he did not have to be cunning for the likes of you.

What account can you give of yourself?

Is this the tradition into which you are inviting people? Is this the tradition which you esteem, promote and practice?

If the above is your way, then clearly you are a very serious danger to anyone who take you seriously in the slightest way. Hope that you are not passing out your teaching as Christianity.

Traditional Christians arrogantly look down at so many things (including the 'New Age' movement) while arrogantly verbalizing what appeared to be an air of superiority. However they are arrogantly stuck in an Antichrist/Satanic practice that is probably the worse approach to dealing with their spiritually dead selves. They were simply reveling in their Satanic/spiritually dead selves.

Fact is arrogance was and continue to be, their curse. They arrogantly perceives that they 'know'. Fact is all they know is Satan and the path to hell and Satan. Indeed this is where they have been consistently sending their dead family members, relatives, friends and associates, for the past 2000 odd years . . . under the erroneous belief that they are following the Lord Jesus.

For the past 2000 years, under their own volition, they were totally ruled by their own arrogance. They were simply blind, 'know it all' and arrogant people. No one could reach them with truth. They were the faithless, 'what you 'see' is what there is', people. They did not have the capacity to look to things that were 'not seen' and eternal.

No one could get pass their arrogance to awaken them to their grave and seriously 'terminal' folly. Now, from among traditional Christians a few are humbling themselves. These few are listening and awakening to truth. These few are the meek (from among those billions) who will inherit earth. These few are 'the last who will be first' into God's kingdom of heaven. Billions still remain misled and lost and destine to be sent into the depths of earth which is hell with Satan.

Gurucam
November 9th, 2015, 06:25 PM
I have read your horoscope Gurucam. It says

"You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

This saying was written on The Wall. Where I did witness several people climbing over so as to leave the Master's garden path. Once they finally made it over The Wall I could no longer see them. I could only hear their screams of agony. After a while their groanings began to fade and I began to weep also. But my tears were turned to joy as I once again continued my journey leaving the sons of perdition behind.

Instead of the above, can you attempt to 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.? Please 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.
1. The Lord knew for sure, as far back as 2000 odd years ago that, many will be called and few chosen.

2. Back then He also confirmed that, many false prophets will come and mislead many.

3. Back then He also confirmed that, people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God.

4. Back then He also confirmed that, strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.Why would you entertain a horoscope reading (or any idea) that accuses me of saying "You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

Clearly that is not true. I did not originate that statement. I am not saying that the path is straight and narrow and few will find it. Fact is the KJV N.T. records that as Jesus' forecast. I am simply presenting that as a Christian truth. Clearly you know this fact. You seem to be turning to 'false witnessing', in desperation???

Seems that you do not like that forecast/statement which was totally made by the Lord Jesus. And indeed you are reluctant to condemn and/or deny the Lord Jesus. So instead you ascribe that statement/forecast to me. And then you can condemn and deny that forecast/statement to you own satisfaction.

Fact is, that forecast/statement is not even Jesus' doing. That is simply the way the Lord foresaw it unfolding. Fact is people themselves create their own destiny. What a man sow that shall he reap. Billions choose a path that is contrary to the teachings of the Lord Jesus yet call themselves Christians. How can that be right? Isn't that blasphemy all on its own?

Great multitudes (billions) seem to not like what the Lord taught, so they modified it to suit their taste. Or they fiercely and arrogantly accepted (and practiced) a modification which some other person provided. However they still called themselves Christians. How is that possible? How is that correct? They cannot be Christians. They have abandon the Lord and gone about their own righteousness. The Lord Jesus cannot benefit them anything. Clearly they are on their own. The Lord Jesus would not know them. Therefore He cannot confess them to God.

One would hope that those who gave these great multitudes of people the modifications (the variation of the Lord's teachings) can save and deliver them.

If you are among those who modified the teachings and prophesies of the Lord Jesus and promote your modification, then it would be necessary for your charges to come onto God through you. You have made yourself Lord and master of your charges. Clearly they would not be able to come onto God, through the Lord Jesus. You have taken a responsibility which you must provide or . . .

Clearly you do not like the above forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. 1. to 4. above). And you have abandon them in favor of: something more 'pampering' and 'kind' including something more to your liking, to your own 'wisdom' and to your obvious arrogant bias toward your own 'wisdom'. Clearly you have come up with your own righteousness.

Clearly you have come up with and you are teaching, your own thing. You have made your self Lord Dialm and that is probably O.K. provided that a.) you do not promote your own ideas, as Christianity and b.) you can save and deliver your charges.

Indeed it is possible that you and your own teachings can save people. I would not venture to judge you on that. However your teachings would not be according to the teachings of the Lord Jesus. And your teachings would not be the Christian way. For indeed Christianity is founded on "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" and anyone who contradict this statement are liars and possibly thieves. Christianity is also founded on those other forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. nos. 1. to 3. above).

If you claim your own made-up ideas to be Christianity, then you cannot be a savior in your own right, you would be a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

Clearly it would be better for you to distance yourself from Christianity and then do your thing on your own strength and own name. Indeed maybe people can come onto God through you.

What indeed is the purpose of teaching people foolishness simply to give people a temporary and very short lived false sense of hope, security and comfort . . . when compare to the long term doom and hell that will befalls them when they following that foolishness?

Please explain the sense (if there is any) in what you are doing?

dialm
November 10th, 2015, 05:07 AM
Can you not attempt to 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.? Please 'show me light' through revelations in the KJV N.T.

1. The Lord knew for sure, as far back as 2000 odd years ago that many will be called and few chosen.

2. Back then he also confirmed that many false prophets will come and mislead many.

3. Back then he also confirmed that people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God.

4. Back then he also confirmed that strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Why would you entertain a horoscope reading that accuses me of saying "You can only come to God through the straight and narrow. All others are liars and thieves."

Clearly that is not true. I am not saying that the path is straight and narrow and few will find it, the KJV N.T. records that as Jesus' forecast. I am simply presenting that as a Christian truth.

Also that is not even Jesus doing. That is simply the way he saw it unfolding. Fact is people themselves create their own destiny. What a man sow that shall he reap. Billions choose a path that is contrary to the teachings of the Lord Jesus yet call themselves Christians. How can that be right? Isn't that blasphemy all on its own?

Great multitudes (billions) seem to not like what the Lord taught, so they modified it to suit their taste. Or they fiercely accepted the modification which other provided. However they still called themselves Christians. How is that possible? How is that correct? They cannot be Christians. They have abandon the Lord and gone about their own righteousness. The Lord Jesus cannot benefit them anything. Clearly they are on their own. The Lord Jesus would not know them. Therefore He cannot confess them to God.

One would hope that those who gave these great multitudes of people the modifications (the variation of the Lord's teachings) can save and deliver them.

If you are among those who modified the teachings and prophesies of the Lord Jesus and promote your modification, then it would be necessary for your charges to come onto God through you. You have made yourself Lord and master of your charges. Clearly they would not be able to come onto God, through the Lord Jesus.

Clearly you do not like the above forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. 1. to 4. above). And you have abandon them in favor of something more 'pampering' and 'kind'. Clearly you have come up with and teaching, your own thing. You have made your self Lord Dialm and that is probably O.K. provided you do not promote your own ideas, as Christianity.

Indeed it is possible that you and your own teachings can save people. I would not venture to judge you on that. However your teachings would not be according to the teachings of the Lord Jesus. And your teachings would not be the Christian way. For indeed Christianity is founded on "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" and anyone who contradict this statement are liars and possibly thieves. Christianity is also founded on those other forecasts of the Lord Jesus (i.e. nos. 1. to 3. above).

If you claim your own made-up ideas to be Christianity, then you cannot be a savior in your own right, you would be a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

Clearly it would be better for you to distance yourself from Christianity and then do your thing on your own strength and own name. Indeed maybe people can come onto God through you.

What indeed is the purpose of teaching people foolishness simply to give them a temporary and very short lived false sense of hope, security and comfort . . . when compare to the long term doom and hell that will befalls them when they following that foolishness?

Please explain the sense (if there is any) in what you are doing?

You are slipping over The Wall Gurucam. I have your foot by the heel but you are bruising my head.

Gurucam
November 10th, 2015, 10:11 AM
You are slipping over The Wall Gurucam. I have your foot by the heel but you are bruising my head.

If you accepted the following I may have trusted you:
1. The Lord Jesus knew for sure, as far back as 2000 odd years ago that, many will be called and few chosen.

2. Back then He also confirmed that, many false prophets will come and mislead many.

3. Back then He also confirmed that, people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God.

4. Back then He also confirmed that, strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.However you have denied the above and made up your own nice sounding righteousness. You seek to 'lower the bar' and whiles that may be understandable when one considers your unfortunate predicament, I can't discern how 'lowering the bar' is possible (i.e. according to revelations of the Lord Jesus, in the KJV N.T.).

You seem to promote that the 'strait gate' is not a gate 'per say' and the way is not narrow.

You seem to promote that 'the strait gate' and 'narrow way' are unlimited sets of openings with free and unlimited passages, from every where . . . and all will find these. Seems that the only gates that are unlimited and freely available with pathways everywhere and which everyone can and will find are: holes into the depths of earth which is hell with Satan. These are holes in the earth, for burying humans with their dead physical bodies.

Billions are burying their dead family members, relatives, friend and associated in these kinds of holes in the depth of earth, together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely in hell with Satan. Indeed these are not the strait gate and the narrow way which only a few find.

Indeed every Tom, Dick, Harry and Satans (billions) are finding and using those gates that are unlimited and freely available with pathways everywhere. These take one to death. While on the other hand, only a few (the chosen few) are finding and using the actual strait gate and the narrow way which the Lord Jesus referred too. This gate and way takes one onto life. This seems to confirm that many are called however few are chosen because the very great majority are misled (by the likes of you) and they err and are not chosen.

I humbly suggest that you accept the above four revelations as it. Do not doctor them to suit you own ideas. You will simply misled genuine aspiring Christians and led them to err seriously. Aspiring Christians are not seeking to join Satan in hell in the underworld, when they die. When they die they are seeking to rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven. You should take this persuasion, seriously. This is as soft and gentle as it can and will get, before too late is the cry.

I accept the revelations in the KJV N.T. as is, not because I like it so but because I trust the Lord Jesus and not you. You have not given me any reason to trust and embrace you instead of the Lord Jesus.

I suspect that now you 'supposedly' have my foot by the heel, simply to try to pull me down into hell with you. This is the complement to your other idea and practice.

Don't you bury your dead family members, relatives, friends and associates in the earth with their dead physical bodies, when they die, to wait indefinitely? That destination is hell with Satan. Is this what you do? Most people will not admit that they do so. They simply do so covertly. I never did that and I have no intention to start doing so.

My people, when they die on earth, all rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus Christ) to be like angels in heaven. All my people are in heaven. None are in hell. My deceased people were never buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait, indefinitely. Also none of them ever had ceremonies which promoted that unfortunate intent. All their funeral ceremonies acknowledged that they will rise to heaven in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like angels in heaven.

a.) Keep your 'Satanic serving' wishes for you and yours. They are probably 'good' and appropriate for you guys. Thanks but no thanks. I am very happy and very contented to not join you guy who are committed to recruiting for Satan and hell.

In fact I praise the Lord Jesus and God and I am eternally grateful to Them, for having an alternative path that leads to spirit heaven in three days, after death on earth. You guys seem to simply deny, persecute blaspheme, relegate and undermine this alternative path. However this is the essential basis of Christianity. That other thing which you guys are practicing is Satanic.

b.) I recruit for heaven (spirit heaven) and the Lord Jesus (the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus) in absolute conformity with the Holy Ghost.

The latter b.) is me and my practice. The former a.) seems to be you and your practice. Let us respect each other and let each of us do what each of us do, on earth, for now. Soon both things will not be permitted to be done on earth.

Soon only one thing (the b. thing) will be permitted to be done on (this) earth. Because only children of God (who include Christian) will be on this earth. This earth will become conformed to the ideas of only children of God.

That other thing (the a. thing) will be done only on another parallel earth among those who esteem that practice. That other parallel earth will have only these kind of people. Also all things in that parallel earth is conformed to the ideas of these people, who 'bury their dead' and do not follow the Lord Jesus.

This would be a perfect settling place for all. Everyone will be in an earth that is conformed precisely to their ideas and practice. However it is prophesied that you guy (the guys in a.), who 'bury your dead relatives in hell with Satan' will not like this idea.

You guys will not like the idea of being in the depths of earth, where you buried your dead family members, relatives, friends and others together with their dead physical bodies.

You will not like that place where you sent your dead family members, relatives, friends and others. Fact is although that place is physically, just like earth, there is one exception. The light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not reach there. That place is always dark and cold and the law, sin and punishment in hell prevails perpetually in that place.

It would be difficult to grasp why you would not like the place to where you have consistently sent your family members, relatives, friends and others.

It would also be difficult to grasp why you are surprised (and not elated) that you end up where you have consistently sent your family members, relatives, friends and others. The experiencing of that place is as follows:

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. Indeed you all will be the suffering victims of your own 'horror/horoscope vision':

I have read horoscope:

This saying was written on The Wall. Where I did witness several people climbing over so as to leave the Master's garden path. Once they finally made it over The Wall I could no longer see them. I could only hear their screams of agony. After a while their groanings began to fade and I began to weep also. But my tears were turned to joy as I once again continued my journey leaving the sons of perdition behind.

Fact is every bit including the slightest bit of information in the KJV N.T. is totally relevant and must be accurately known, recognized and included, in order to escape catastrophe.

Gurucam
November 10th, 2015, 01:15 PM
dialm,

Fact is every bit, including the slightest bit of information in the KJV N.T. is totally relevant and must be accurately known, recognized and included, in order to escape catastrophe.

Romans: 10 KJV N.T.
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Billions are missing the fine details of the above. Billions are parroting the above revelation without 'believing in their heart'.

The spiritually dead cannot 'believe anything in their heart'.

'Believing in one's heart has to do with become spiritually aware and achieving direct and live communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus through one's own heart or spirit. This is how Paul knew the Lord Jesus.

Fact is Paul communed with the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus through his own heart or spirit, after God raised the Lord from the dead. Therefore Paul knew first hand that God hath raised the Lord Jesus from the dead. This kind of knowing is described as 'believing in one's heart'. It is when one has achieve this kind of knowing through one own heart or spirit that one is saved.

The confession in the above revelation is not a means of becoming saved. The revelation convey that one is saved when one can confess that God raised the Lord from the dead, because one know it to be true from direct and first hand communion with the living Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus (i.e. after God raised Him from the dead). One must know the Lord (in his Spirit only format), as Paul did in order to be saved.

In other word such a person would know, from his own experience that Jesus is alive in heaven and not dead in the earth. In other word such a person would have first sought and found the Lord Jesus in God's kingdom within his own heart. Then he would know that the Lord was raised from his dead physical body in the earth and into heaven, clad in only His Spirit body.

It is this actual and live communion between one's own spirit and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus enables one to be saved. The above confession must result from this actual and live spirit to Spirit experience. The confession is a deceleration that one know this from actual communion with the live and living Lord Jesus.

The revelation is not meant for one to parrot and that will save one. Even having faith is not enough. The confession must result from actual heart or spirit knowing, like how Paul knew the Lord after He rose to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body. This is described as 'believing in one's heart'.

The entire revelation is about seeking ye first God's kingdom of heaven within one's own heart, then all thing will be added.

Therefore parroting the above revelation without having the necessary spiritual awareness and spirit to Spirit communion with the Lord Jesus counts for absolutely nothing.

However this is exactly what billion are doing. Billions are parroting the above revelation without having the necessary spiritual awareness and spirit to Spirit communion with the Lord Jesus. They are all lost and unheard.

Don't you find the Lord's instruction to be very clear when He said, seek ye first the kingdom of God within, then all things will be added.

Instead billions of aspiring Christians are choosing to first parrot the above revelation. How sad and unfortunate.

However it is all fair. Who do not hear must feel the wrath of failure. What a man sow, so shall he reap.

I have to be absolutely flat and frank, if anyone is to be helped in these last days. Fact is traditional Christians are pampered and spoil people. If two truth are told to them, they must be permitted to add and be recognized for, at least one thing which they know and believe. Fact is their beliefs are never authentic or correct.

Also if they cannot add their own dimension they go to some other place. They all have very oversize egos. They are all knowers.

Their priests, popes etc. are focused on obtaining tithes and servitude from these followers. Therefore these priests, popes, etc. cannot be brazen and bold. They pamper their charges in order to keep them in the fold and so continue to get their tithes and servitude.

I am here to be flat out frank and forthright, according to revelations in the KJV N.T.

dialm
November 10th, 2015, 01:32 PM
dialm,

Fact is every bit, including the slightest bit of information in the KJV N.T. is totally relevant and must be accurately known, recognized and included, in order to escape catastrophe.

Billions are missing the fine details of the above. Billions are parroting the above revelation without 'believing in their heart'.

The spiritually dead cannot 'believe anything in their heart'.

'Believing in one's heart has to do with become spiritually aware and achieving direct and live communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus through one's own heart or spirit. This is how Paul knew the Lord Jesus.

This is about seeking ye first God's kingdom of heaven within one's own heart, then all thing will be added.

Therefore parroting the above revelation without having the necessary spiritual awareness and spirit to Spirit communion with the Lord Jesus counts for absolutely nothing.

However this is exactly what billion are doing. Billions are parroting the above revelation without having the necessary spiritual awareness and spirit to Spirit communion with the Lord Jesus. They are all lost and unheard.

Don't you find the Lord's instruction to be very clear when He said, seek ye first the kingdom of God within, then all things will be added.

Instead billions of aspiring Christians are choosing to first parrot the above revelation. How sad and unfortunate.

However it is all fair. Who do not hear must feel the wrath of failure. What a man sow, so shall he reap.
Don't think I can hold on to your heel much longer Gurucam. Just stop kicking against The Wall and I will pull you back to the original path that the Master has set before us.

Gurucam
November 11th, 2015, 02:54 AM
Don't think I can hold on to your heel much longer Gurucam. Just stop kicking against The Wall and I will pull you back to the original path that the Master has set before us.

You are slipping over The Wall Gurucam. I have your foot by the heel but you are bruising my head.
Please let go, for your own good. Go down into earth some more and you will not feel my foot on your head, as I walk on earth. At any event that is not happening to you just yet. That is simply your own horror/horoscope prediction, haunting you. (you can still be helped)

I have read horoscope:

This saying was written on The Wall. Where I did witness several people climbing over so as to leave the Master's garden path. Once they finally made it over The Wall I could no longer see them. I could only hear their screams of agony. After a while their groanings began to fade and I began to weep also. But my tears were turned to joy as I once again continued my journey leaving the sons of perdition behind.
You are not used to polite requests.

There is nothing in the KJV N.T. that says that you can help any Christian. Only the Lord Jesus helps Christians through a very individualized, private, direct and live communion which each Christian.

This is the beauty of Christianity. No man or any other entity comes between a Christian and God, except the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son Of God, Lord Jesus. Any one who tries to do so must be Satan and/or a Satan recruiter.

Christians are instructed to search the hearts to know what is mind of the Spirit and not let you pull their ankles and pull them down:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Of course Satan and his operatives operate differently. They grab people by their ankle. They cannot reach higher. They try to pull their recruits into their world which is the depths of earth.

Satan and his operatives often try to hold, heaven bound, Christians by their ankles to pull then down to the depths of earth. They never succeed. The Lord Jesus simply chop off their offending hands. And takes His Christian into heaven.

The Lord Jesus did warn that Satan and his people will try to pull down His people into their world which is the depths of earth. However they will succeed only with their own kind.

Interestingly Satan cannot take any one by the hand, heart or head. His reach is not that high. Satan always try to drag people down into earth by their ankles and foot.

Satan does not succeed among Christians. When Christians die they rise in three day, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven. However Satan seems to succeed, bountifully among your people. In fact Satan seem to have you well taken.

It is clear that you lay in waiting until your family members, relatives, friends and associates dies on earth. Then you bury them with their dead physical bodies in hell with Satan, within the depths of earth. Of course you would do that covertly.

You clearly would not and do not advertise that you are delivering people to Satan in the depths of earth which is hell 'for an undefined stay'. Also you would not advertise that under your practice some people are in the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan for 2000 odd years and counting.

Do not play God Do not pretend to be the Lord Jesus. Do not mock God. He decides all things. Only Satan need operatives to hold ankles and pull down people etc.

Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

John: 14 KJV N.T.
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
You cannot get between me and the Lord Jesus and God. That is absolutely impossible. I am not going to hell with you guys. You guys are real bad news.

At least you can abandon your Old ways in these last few day before too late is the cry.

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Humble yourself. Admit your past foolishness and make the better choice, now, for you and your remaining family members, relatives, friend and associates, at least from this point onward.

Stop burying your unsuspecting deceased charges in the earth, in hell, with Satan, for an indefinite stay. Introduce them to path which will enable them to rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like angels in heaven, when they die on earth.

Don't you care? Very many can be helped by your simple open and forthright admission of your unwitting past and unfortunate ways.

Why do you want to "kick against the pricks". Your praying for people would not help. Each man or woman must account for himself. Each one must be shown the way to become Christian. And each one must become authentically Christian. This is the only way.

Christianity is anchored on an individual and private communion between the spirit of a person and the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. It is anchored on one being led, unconditionally, into all of one's works by this Spirit, even if one has to transgress the Ten Commandments. And so be it.

You are hard of hearing and your heart is waxed gross :bang:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Fact is: Only the Spirit can make intercession for Christian. You are not the Spirit. You are simply an "infermed" human who "know not what to pray for". You are simply on an ego trip. You are simply posing and posturing beyond your capacity. You have misled and will misled many.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
It is your oversize ego and infirmities which also cause you to be a recruiter for Satan :devil: :grave: instead of a recruiter for the Lord Jesus :first: :cheers:.

It is better to face the hard and blatant truth (as confirmed by clear & literal revelations in the KJV N.T.) now, before 'to late is the cry'.

Gurucam
November 11th, 2015, 12:04 PM
Dialm,

Every man is on his own. To tell anyone any thing else is to mislead him and have him fall off the the narrow way that lead onto life and instead fall into a hole in the earth that lead onto death and hell:

Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

John: 14 KJV N.T.
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Each person must go through each of their own heart or spirit and commune individually and privately with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, in order to come onto God. Even then one does not pray for anything. The Spirit makes automatic, 'unseen' and direct intercession on behalf of such persons.

The Christian way is that: the Spirit (of the Lord Jesus) makes intercession with God (the Holy Spirit), with respect to things in each person's heart or spirit which he cannot utter. Something that cannot be uttered is not uttered. How then is it possible for another person to know these things and offer pray for such a person? No prays are ever offered by Christians or on behalf of Christians.

The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus is in constant communion with the deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interest, needs, desires and aspiration which are within the individual hearts or spirits of each Christian. Then the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus makes a perfect amalgam of this and will of God and come up with precisely what that Christian person must do. This is on going and happens outside the awareness of a Christian person.

The Christian person gets consciously involve simply by searching his own heart to know precisely what the Spirit of the Lord has in mind for him to do and he is simply led, unconditionally, into all his works, by only this, even if he has to transgress the Ten Commandments and all canons etc. of Peter & Co.

What the Spirit of the Lord has in mind for a Christian person to do, as discerned in the above manner, is his mission in the body of Christ. This is his God given mission. Being led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus in this manner brings one under and keeps one in, Grace of God. This also makes and keep one, a child of God. This and only this makes and keeps one, a Christian.

This is how the Lord Jesus Christ was led into always doing the will of God, His Father. For edification and for the record, the Lord Jesus prayed to His Father for a variation of His mission, simply to show that such pray requests are not entertained by God.

Dialm, Let us fact the fact, if God would blank the Lord Jesus, who is you? Do you actually believe that God would entertain a pray request from you or any other human? It is not that God has anything against you or any other human or the Lord Jesus Christ. It simply means that that is not how the Christian system works. Pray requests are not entertained. Pray request are a waste of time. One must be led by the Spirit, unconditionally, until the very end.

The indication is that one's life is preordained, based on one's per-birth spirit and the living will of God. And God, the Father would not and does not grant or entertain any changes. This is how the Lord came into the world. As Jesus Christ, the Lord's mission was all preordained. Fact is the Lord Jesus identified Peter to be Satan because Peter attempted to derail the Lord off His preordained path.

However it seems that humans (out of their own volition and 'wisdom'), are constantly changing their preordained life. These people are not children of God. They are not Christians. They are children of the flesh, also called 'the dead'. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

In the Christian system there is no praying about varying one's mission, which unfolds according to the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. There is no room or provision for another person to intercede on behalf of another Christian person.

However this system is in no way oppressive and dictatorial. What the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do is a perfect amalgam of 1.) the real and totally not compromised desires of each Christian and 2.) the will of God. The real desires of any person are the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of his or her own individual (born with) heart or spirit. The Lord simply creates a perfect amalgam of these and the will of God and come up with what each Christian person must do on earth.

The above defines the strait gate and narrow way that one must find and use in order to have life. That is, in order to be saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven. And to become a child of God and a Christian. And to be saved and delivered and to do the live will of God and to be under Grace of God.

The Lord Jesus foresaw that few will find this strait gate and narrow way. Indeed billions are called Christians, clearly however, only a chosen few know and follow the above path. The very great majority of the billion seeking to be Christians, seem to erroneously perceive that they can actually pray for one another. Also some erroneously perceive that the law and canons and the letters are connected to this strait gate and narrow way which defines Christianity.

Fact is, with respect to Christianity, only what the living Spirit of the living Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do, matters. Under this system, one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the Ten Commandments, canons, the letters and all prevailing moral and social ideals and laws.

Clearly the billions who have not found and adapted the above have fallen 'over the wall' (as you perceive) and into a hole in the depths of earth.

Matthew: 24
40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
How indeed is praying and/or to stopping to help another possible?

The only possible and genuine help that one human can offer another, with respect to Christian salvation and deliverance, is to confirm the path to Christianity in absolute clarity . . . . that is without praying for any one.

The path to becoming Christian is clearly and literally confirmed in the KJV N.T. and reproduced in this post.

Fact is the Lord Jesus demonstrated (for everyone's edification) in absolute clarity that pray request are not entertained by God, His Father. Christians the few authentic ones, know this and do make related pray requests.

The very act of praying for some one, denies and blaspheme, 1.) the path to Christianity, 2.) Christianity it self, 3.) the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus and 4.) God, the Holy Ghost.

Promoting and practicing praying by one person for another is not, at all, any part of Christianity. However a Christian or aspiring Christian might (himself) pray (privately and silently) for bring him to meet with perfect opportunities (on earth) to express and/or materialize the deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration of his pre-birth heart or spirit. For indeed God, the Father has a predisposition to totally support the expression and materialization of these on earth.

'Perfect opportunities' are relationships and associations with specific people, things and circumstances on earth which are absolutely perfect for the expression and materialization of the deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration of one's pre-birth heart or spirit.

This is the New Testament in purity and truth. This is the essential fabric of a Christian life style. This is made possible by and operational through, the Lord Jesus through His living, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Spirit.


:idea: :idea: . . . :cheers: . . . . :the_wave:

dialm
November 11th, 2015, 06:47 PM
Gurucam,

Now you have done it. You have bruised my head and left a mark on my forehand. I can't hold onto your heel much longer. I feel you slipping into the dark abyss. Screwtape is there waiting for you.

Gurucam
November 12th, 2015, 07:14 AM
Gurucam,

Now you have done it. You have bruised my head and left a mark on my forehand. I can't hold onto your heel much longer. I feel you slipping into the dark abyss. Screwtape is there waiting for you.The marks on your forehead are from fire. It is a Christian thing. A good thing. Are these marks in the middle of your forehead around the brow area? It is from my fired condemnation of your ideas. You do know that the Lord Jesus baptizes with fire? He made me do it.

Do not take it personally. It is all in the service of a very good thing. Actually it is in the service of love for you. I care more for you than for your approval of me.

One must bear loyalty only to the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus. One looses (Truth based, Spirit) integrity, if for a moment one stops to have a 'rational' intellectual or other agreement and discussion with others. (Intellectualizing killeth spirit and Spirit awareness. Intellectualizing killeth the flow of Truth from the Spirit of Truth.)

John: 16 KJV N.T.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Therefore one does not stop to have 'rational' intellectual or other agreement and discussion with respect to things pertaining to Enlightenment in Christ. Also 'rational' intellectual or other agreement and discussion with respect to things pertaining to Enlightenment in Christ is redundant.

Fact is, things pertaining to Enlightenment in Christ is Truth. And Truth is so absolutely diverse that no two people can actually have and share the same ideas, on any intellectual level. Truth remains totally as intuitions well beyond intellectual expression.

The more divine one gets the more individualized one gets. And less one's Truth can be expressed intellectually.

I disagree with you on facts as recorded in the KJV N.T. My disagreement is not an attempt to put you down, personally. However it is geared to very strongly and unequivocally (i.e. with fire) put down corruption of Christianity.

Additionally on the path to Enlightenment in Christ, it is not desirable for anyone to buddy up with another person or group by holding and sharing intellectual ideas.

Fact is the path to Enlightenment in Christ is an absolutely internal, private and personal 'walk alone' one. Your Truth must come to you privately, individually, intuitively and directly, through your own heart or spirit, from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus.

Truth which this Spirit reveals to you through the above pathway, is absolutely tailor made and individualized for you.

In order to access this Truth (which the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has put together just for you) you have to transcend all your intellectually derived 'wisdom' (like the idea of one person praying for another person). These are all flawed. Christians, because of their infirmities, do not know what to pray for:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Therefore having the idea that one can pray for another and actually praying for another and holding that to be a Christians idea, is an intellectual conclusion and is erroneous. It is Antichrist, Satanic and corrupt.

I suspect that churches project that they can pray for people, so that they can charge a fee (a tithe) by praying for people. That is fine, if aspiring Christians and Christians are not suckered into that service.

Such ideas must be transcended to give way to intuitions from the Spirit of Truth. One way to transcend erroneous intellectually derived ideas, is to show with fire and with absolute clarity that they are contrary to Christianity (according to revelations in the KJV N.T.).

This is what I did with respect to your idea that 'humans can pray for Christians'.

This can and will undermine and relegate erroneous intellectually derived ideas. Then your awareness will be open to Truth which must come, brand new, privately and totally only from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus, through your own individual heart or spirit.

To aid you or anyone else onto a path for Enlightenment in Christ, I cannot in the slightest way encourage 'comrade type agreeing' in the slightest way with: 1.) erroneous or other intellectualizing. 2.) Nor can I encourage erroneous or other intellectual ideas to survive. So you will understand why I could not let slide, your idea that 'humans can pray for Christians'.

In fact in order to help anyone onto a path for Enlightenment in Christ, I am compelled to strongly discourage and dismiss 'intellectualizing and erroneous intellectual conclusion (like the idea of Christian praying for other Christians) I must use fire at these events and times.

Also nothing is any thing spiritual if it is devoid of an emotional dimension (i.e. fire).

To get to your spirit I must raise emotions within you. It does not matter that the emotion that I raise in you is anger or love. I must raise a fire in you. However your emotion must be authentic. I must awaken anger or love strongly. Raising of any emotion is spiritual awakening and/or increases spiritual awareness. This is the platform for enlightenment in Christ.

Indeed spiritual awareness and increasing spiritual awareness is about setting one on emotional fire. It is about dismissing every intellectual idea which one holds as 'wisdom' so that one will trust the intellectual ideas of no one, not even one's own intellectualizing. Then one will be forced into one's own internal (heart/spirit searching) quest for Truth, with a vengeance. That is with serious commitment and determination . . . indeed with fire, i.e. with strong passion . . . with a one pointed focus.

This will enable you to find God's kingdom of heaven within your own heart and achieve communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, who is resident there. Then the Lord can and will guide you into the will of God. This is how you will come to know God, the Holy Spirit. Then when you are led into all your works by the Spirit of the Lord, unconditionally, you will actually do the will of the living God. Then the Lord Jesus will confess you to God, the Holy Spirit and God will know you. You will become a child of God and also achieve all those other very good things:

Matthew: 3 KJV N.T.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
An authentic Christian will always have fire and use fire. This is strong feeling or strong emotion which is a burning fire within. It can also flow from within to without.

This is how one is 'baptized' in Christ. This is also the nature of one who is 'baptized' in Christ. An authentic Christian will always be naturally and spontaneous very passionate (i.e. on fire) about his intuitive insight from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Being 'in Christ' is to be a 'Christ'. Is to be Christ. A Christian differs in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, except (for one thing), Jesus is Lord of All.

I am authentically what I post and do. What I know my self to be within myself is what I project to you, authentically.

I do not know my self to be one thing and project myself of be another thing. What I know my self to be within myself is what I project to you, authentically.

Then, if what you know of me is based on that, you know the authentic me. You know me authentically.

Then 1.) what I know my self to be within myself, 2.) what I project myself to be to you and 3.) what you perceive me to be, from my post and behavior, are all the same. This is authentically me. This is fundamental to Christianity and enlightenment.

Those under the law cannot and do not live in this manner. They cannot be and are not, Christians, nor can they be or are they, enlightened.

Those under the law cannot and do not live in this manner. They cannot and do not uphold the law (indeed no one can uphold the law), however they project the law. By their mouth confession they put themselves under the law and promote the law. However by their deeds they transgress the law. They are very far from authentic.

However Christians and enlightened being are authentic. They are under righteousness of God that is without the law and they admit that openly and freely.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
This is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
John: 14 KJV N.T.
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Those who are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are 'in Christ' (i.e. the chosen few Christians). Those who are 'in Christ' (the chosen few Christians) are not under the law. They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

I proudly proclaim this way of life. Know that to be authentically me. Also, under grace of God, expect me to promote the Christian way with serious passion, with fire, from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

The Christian way is not the way of 'the dead'. However some people are promoting 'the law' and 'the way of the dead' to be Christianity. This is corrupt, Antichrist and Satanic. Therefore under grace of God, also expect me to oppose this practice with serious passion, with fire, from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Hope that we are square now. I do care about being square with you.

dialm
November 12th, 2015, 03:57 PM
It was a shoe print. Do you wear Red Wings? In the shape of a horse. It is the Red Horse of War. I'm going to have to fight you now Gurucam.

Gurucam
November 13th, 2015, 07:12 AM
It was a shoe print. Do you wear Red Wings? In the shape of a horse. It is the Red Horse of War.

We had no 'hand and foot' contact, as far as I am aware.

While it is possible that my foot print can reach you. I was dealing only with words and ideas which traveled through the internet. These were of Spirit and fire. I had no intention to offer my foot to you.

I offered my heart (i.e. the wisdom of the Lord Jesus which came to me through my heart or spirit and its accompanying fire).

If you are injured it must be from the fire of the words which I posted? Truth tend to do just that.

I am not aware that my word and fire can result in the physical expression which you described. Your imagination seems to be too filled with sinister and evil sounding ideas. This is a tool used by Satan. He inculcate fear in his charges (by conditioning their head with sinister ideas like yours). Then he sells protection to them for mandatory tithes and offerings.

If your injury is more physical than that, which is possible from the fire of my words in my post, then check for a match of that shoe print among the shoes of people/or whoever in your immediate environment.

Make something like a Cinderella search. Replicate the print that is on you and go around with it and checking the shoes of people around you, for a match. It may have happened when you were passed out or when you were asleep. It could also happen because you are generally unaware. So check the shoe prints of all people who are generally close around you. I hope that you can bring early settlement to your seemingly troubling state. I am not sure that the end will be similar to that which Prince Charming had.

Fact is, I baptize on behalf of the Lord Jesus with only His Spirit and fire. This is not a physical (and law and letter based) baptism as done by John the Baptist. There will be no physically impact of the kind you have described . . . . except, it would seem, among those who are not given by God to receive this fire, Spirit of Jesus baptism. Indeed there are those who will be stuck in the Old baptism according to John the Baptist. Both water baptism and Spirit and fire baptism are still valid. However they are for different people.

Matthews: 3 KJV N.T.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
These baptism correspond to the two choices which the Lord Left:

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
May be the shoe print that appeared on you is from your traditional ruler. He is probably seeking to frighten you so that you will continue to stay loyal to him and within his fold. He probably want to keep you under water baptism and not have you delivered onto Spirit and fire baptism.

Fact is if some one is "falling over the wall", as you are suggesting, no one can help him by prays or according to your idea. Yours is simply a delusion.

If you are holding on to some one's ankle it seem to suggest that, in your mind, such a one is rising to heaven and you are not. That is not way to go. You can also rise to heaven simply by embracing and being led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus with fire . . . not by garbing ankles and getting bruised etc.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought (to do): but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Fact is the above (Romans: 8 verse: 26 KJV N.T.) is about being guided and led by the Spirit. This is practiced by only Christians.

Your idea of 'grabbing ankles' and 'praying', as you suggested, is about being led by Satan. This is practiced by only 'the dead'.

Both things are practiced on earth at this time. Christians practice the former, the dead practice the latter.

All instructions in the KJV N.T. boil down to two different sets of instructions. They make two groups. One set for Christians and the other for the dead.

Some are given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and some are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. The mystery of God's kingdom of heaven pertaining to what one must do in order to enter God kingdom of heaven. To enter God's kingdom of heaven one must be led into all of one's works by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Not everyone is given to have this life. That is simply the reality.

However being given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is simply the first division or hurdle. Even from among those who are given by God to know the mysteries of His kingdom of heaven, only those who have adapted those mysteries, as their lifestyle are chosen. They are just a chosen few. Only they are Christians. The very great majority, billion fall be the way side. This is simply the way it is and Jesus and God both accepted this fact.

Jesus and his angels and God separate all according to those two realities. Indeed the reality is many are called and few chosen.

You are simply 'big-sizing-up' yourself (your ego) by offering to pray and praying for another. Also you are doing the same disservice by speaking about,"holding onto the ankle of another'. You are simply misleading aspiring Christians. You are giving people false sense of security which must lead them to abandon the authentic and genuine way and path. You cannot help anyone, other than to lead them the literal truth in the KJV N.T. You cannot make the Spirit help them.

Each person come onto the path when they are good and ready. Offering prays for Christians is simply a (meaningless) way to fill your life. Praying for Christians simply does not work. It did not work for the Lord Jesus. However that practice can be devastatingly misleading.

I suspect that even you, who believe that you can pray for another, has not found the strait gate and the narrow way which leads to life, and God's kingdom of heaven.

Gurucam
November 13th, 2015, 04:11 PM
I'm going to have to fight you now Gurucam.
Fighting is good. Fighting using fire is better. Fighting using fire and Spirit is best.

1.
Matthews: 3 KJV N.T.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:In fact there can be no valid fight without fire and Spirit. Fighting without fire and Spirit is a waste of time. Fighting without fire and Spirit is the past time of the unaware. They are also called spiritually dead, 'the dead' and/or children of the flesh. They are also called children of Satan or Satan operatives. They are going no where other than a very dammed place, with their discussions and/or fighting.

Do you believe and/or know that the Lord Jesus survived his crucifixion?

Do you believe and/or know that the Lord Jesus is alive?

Do you believe and/or know that the Lord Jesus is alive in God's kingdom in spirit heaven?

2.
1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Do you believe and/or know that the Lord Jesus is currently in God's spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body?

3.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Do you believe and/or know that the Lord Jesus is currently in God's spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body. And He is ready, willing and ably making intercession with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of Christians/children of God, from His throne in spirit heaven?
4.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Do you know that those who search their own individual hearts or spirits come to know what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for him or her to do?

5.
Deuteronomy: 32
35 To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
36 For the LORD shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.


Matthew: 24 KJV N.T.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Do you believe and/or know the above revelations?

Do you believe and/or know that in the statements, "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence" and "their foot shall slide in due time" the Lord is referring to those who denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and aided his crucifixion and then dominated and ruled on, earth for the past 2000 odd years?

Do you believe and/or know that their foot shall slide in due time

Do you think and/or know that it took 2000 odd years for their foot to slide in due time

Do you think and/or know that we at this crucial time? Do you think and/or know that their foot has (finally) slide?

Do you think and/or know that the Lord is coming soon to claim 'vengeance, and recompence'?

Do you think and/or know that this 'vengeance, and recompence' will result in 'two shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left'?

Dialm, what does these things mean to you, i.e if they mean anything to you?

Don't you want people to be delivered from the above impending disaster? The KJV N.T. records the one way/path through which each human can be delivered. Don't you want to carefully, clearly and accurately identify/discern this way/path, as it literally recorded in the KJV N.T.?

6.
2000 odd yeas ago the Lord said: "for the day of their calamity is at hand and the things that shall come upon them make haste". Do you believe and/or know that 2000 odd years is 'yesterday' (or even a moment ago) for the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus?

Do you believe and/or know that the Lord confirmed that children of God will inherit earth without children of the flesh, in the fullness of time? Do you believe and/or know that the Lord confirmed that "many will be called and few chosen"? Do you believe and/or know that these events are related to "two shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left"?

However, it seems that most traditional Christians (erroneously) believe that 'children of God will be 'taken off the earth' leaving children of the flesh on earth.

Do you believe and/or know that "two shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left" is a 'magical or miraculous event for many people?

However do you believe and/or know that "two shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left" is actually "teleporting through a black hole, event" and this is a real, scientifically validate event in Quantum physics?

Indeed, it seems that most traditional Christians (erroneously) believe that 'children of God will be 'taken off the earth' leaving only children of the flesh on earth.

Based on the promise that "children of God will inherit earth without children of the flesh, in the fullness of time" the above seems to an erroneous conclusion.

Instead it seems that 'children of the flesh will be teleported out of the surface of earth, through a black hole portal and into a parallel earth which is perfectly conformed to their 'children of the flesh' ways and reality. This will leave only children of God on earth.

This also means that all those 'dooms day event' will not happen on this earth among 'children of God. Those dooms day events will happen on that other parallel earth. Those dooms day events will be the experience of only children of the flesh when they are teleported to that parallel earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine.

7.
Joel: 3 KJV
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.Clearly those dooms day event cannot happen on this earth which is promised to children of God without children of the flesh?

Those dooms day events must be the on-going reality, in a parallel earth where children of the flesh perpetually end-up. Clearly that is hell. However when children of the flesh are teleported to that parallel earth, their deluded experience is that this earth has become that hellish earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine. That parallel earth seems to be within the depths of this earth.

Then, when children of God are left on this earth without any children of the flesh, this earth (where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do shine) will experience spontaneous recovery to it original 'Garden of Eden' status. This is how God's kingdom of heaven will be come to earth and be sustained among only His children. The presence of children of the flesh on earth is responsible for the destruction of earth. They have and continue to destroy the Garden of Eden reality on earth. Once all children of the flesh are (teleported) out of here the surface of earth, earth's surface will rise naturally and spontaneously to a 'modern' Garden of Eden status.

Traditional Christians seem to believe that all people are children of God. This is wrong. It is clearly confirmed that there are children of the flesh and children of God. Fact is God created all, however some turned to Satan. They are entangled with Satan. They are the children of the flesh. The others are the children of God.

God has provided for all. Children of the flesh will go a parallel earth that is totally conformed to their children of the flesh/Satanic disposition. Children of God will inherit earth (without children of the fleas) and it will instantly and spontaneously be conformed to God's physical/material kingdom of heaven. Then the Lord Jesus will come to earth in an appropriate body, to rule over God's kingdom of heaven on earth.

Fact is life on earth is judgment city. What one sows here determines his or her other destination. Indeed what one confesses and promotes with his mouth, on this earth, is one's entanglement with an exactly already existing parallel earth to which he will inevitably go to after death or live teleportation.

8.
Hebrews: 9 KJV N.T.
27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Every life on every earth is both an actual life as well as a judgment platform for another life in another parallel earth.

One's current life on one's current earth is always a basis for judging and determining one's future destination. One's future destination can be a return to a similar earth (no growth) or to a more hellish one (retrogression in growth) or to a more heavenly one (advancement in growth). Billions of destination earths exists and are inhabited. Some are more dense, some are less dense. People go to an earth that is conformed to his density.

Density relates to ranges of densities. Quantum field theory, have validated the existence of 'densities' (i.e. like dense matter and less and lesser dense matter). Humans (at their various levels of consciousness) are directly correlated to and entangled with, these densities of matter, in a perfectly matched and precisely individualized manner.

Each person inevitably and eventually goes to a destination dimension that is precisely conformed to his density. He inevitably and eventually goes to a destination dimension of his precise entanglement. The ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations to which a person is in any way connect to, think about, verbalizes and esteems, in this life determines the essential fabric of his next destination dimension.

9.
Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.These are the essential fabric of the Lord Jesus' message as recorded in the KJV N.T.

What do you know and/or believe about these things?

Dialm, Knowing 1.) to 9.) above can save you and give you life, eternal life. I am not fighting with you for fighting sake. I am not fighting you with intellectual garbage (i.e. mine or anyone else). I am fighting with intuitively discerned, direct fire from the Spirit.

10.
John: 16 KJV N.T.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
I am fighting to reach into your spirit and to deliver the Spirit of the Lord Jesus into your individual heart or spirit. The Spirit of the Lord is the Spirit of Truth, Who delivers the path to Truth, all Truth and eternal life. I am fighting you with fire and Spirit to put you on your own 'two feet' (not your physical feet) and then to leave you liberated and free on your own with the Spirit. My prays cannot do this form you. However open rebuke can do it. Open rebuke is better that love carefully concealed.

There can be and is, no denying that I love you.

freelight
November 13th, 2015, 04:53 PM
~*~*~

Recap: - my highlighting the issue of emphasis of rejecting the law (law of Moses or any universal laws for that matter) still hold. In any 'age' or 'time',...any universal laws that govern actions, still maintains, so that if you abide by any law you experience the life-enhancing benefit of such, being in harmony with divine law, and will experience suffering and 'death' by the transgression of such laws.

Universal laws still hold in all worlds where cause/effect, action/reaction, sequence/consequence continues,....you cannot escape such laws as even Paul speaks of these laws of life and death. 'Heaven' or 'hell' are more or less states or conditions of consciousness, so whether they be 'determined' in this world or any world,...those degrees, qualities and laws of consciousness still hold and pertain.

So, if your religious mythology includes a "rapture" of sorts (take that figuratively or literally),...you still qualify for such a rapture by meeting the requirements/conditions to affect such an experience, while those not meeting those requirements do not have that experience. Universal laws of Nature and Spirit still hold.....

dialm
November 13th, 2015, 06:24 PM
Fighting is good. Fighting using fire is better. Fighting using fire and Spirit is best.

Do you believe or know that the Lord Jesus survived his crucifixion?

Do you believe or know that the Lord Jesus is alive?

Do you believe or know that the Lord Jesus is alive in God's kingdom in spirit heaven?

Do you believe or know that the Lord Jesus is currently in God's spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body?

Do you believe and/or know the above revelation?

Do you believe and/or know that The Lord is referring to those who denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and aided his crucifixion and then dominated and ruled on, earth for the past 2000 odd years?

Do you believe and/or know that their foot shall slide in due time

Do you think and/or know that it took 2000 odd years for their foot to slide in due time

Do you think and/or know that we at this crucial time? Do you think and/or know that the Lord is coming soon to claim 'vengeance, and recompence'?



Prepare yourself for battle Gurucam. You have bruised my ego. My pride and vanity is calling out for justice. I have to wear a glove to hide the marking on my forehand. A glove and a mask to hide my shame. (If a serpentine could talk.)

Psalmist
November 13th, 2015, 06:28 PM
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.


I thought the age of Aquarius ended when the 5th Dimension retired from the musical scene.

dialm
November 14th, 2015, 02:25 AM
Can you see it now Gurucam? The stars are beginning to align against you. Soon there will be a gravitational shift and a new phase. You wordspeak is coming to an end. Stop now or the hounds of hell will will be released.

Gurucam
November 14th, 2015, 09:06 AM
Prepare yourself for battle Gurucam. You have bruised my ego. My pride and vanity is calling out for justice. I have to wear a glove to hide the marking on my forehand. A glove and a mask to hide my shame. (If a serpentine could talk.)

I was indeed after your ego, but only with pure love for you who is not your ego.

Go ahead continue to battle with me.

You are doing good. I appreciate it, a lot.

Gurucam
November 14th, 2015, 09:25 AM
Can you see it now Gurucam? The stars are beginning to align against you. Soon there will be a gravitational shift and a new phase. You wordspeak is coming to an end. Stop now or the hounds of hell will will be released.

Hell is already on earth. However only temporarily. And this is not the real thing.

I am simply staying on the right side (the sheep side) of God, i.e. by staying on my right side brain hemisphere. The intuitive/spirit side.

If it works well I am among the sheep who are chosen . . . . if not well . . . .

Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Whatever Will Be, Will Be (Que Sera, Sera). I always found Doris Day to be pretty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azxoVRTwlNg

One aligns with the stars and other heavenly bodies though one's right side brain hemisphere.

This means that one aligns with the depths of earth through one's left side brain hemisphere.

There are two realities and existences. One above, the other bellow.

In one reality and existence, the light of the sun, the moon and the stars shine. In the other reality and existence, the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine.

Gurucam
November 14th, 2015, 09:38 AM
How to be relevant and stay on earth now, in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.


I thought the age of Aquarius ended when the 5th Dimension retired from the musical scene.

No it was heralded when the 5th Dimension was dawning. They were not before their time, it just seemed that way.

Everything is as it is supposed to be.

They are coming back, stronger than before . . . spontaneous regeneration.

I get a good vibe from you. However my vibes have never been tested, in any serious way.

Have to admit it is a nice song and idea . . . from the 5th Dimension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE

It is the yearning in the hearts of people (like negro-spirituals). How can it be ignored. God certainly hear those yearnings and address them fully, as they are . . . rest assure.

Remember however that Jesus and God exist beyond the 5th Dimension, i.e. beyond physicality and space and time. There a minute would be equivalent to 2000 odd years on earth.
In fact there our concept of time is irrelevant. There (beyond the 5th Dimension) events in any linear time (i.e. like 2000 years ago or what ever), on earth is simply a thought or focus away.

The Lord confirmed that vengeance is His, however most everyone perceive that since 2000 odd years have passed (since His received bad treatment on earth), all is forgotten and forgiven. They are grossly mistaken. Fact is that event is absolutely fresh for the Lord Jesus and all other beings in the spirit realm. For the Lord and all others who resides beyond the 5th Dimension/Spirit dimension, that event happened just a moment ago . . . a twinkling of an eye ago.

Time is weird when it come to spirit based beings.

The concept of time in the three dimensional world (the physical world) is very different to time in the spirit realm which is beyond three dimensional and space and time limitations.

One can commune with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus through one's own own heart or spirit which is one's right side brain hemisphere. Such a person actually transcends physicality and space and time. This enable one to know first hand, intuitively, live and direct in real time, from the Spirit of the Lord, those things which others recorded about the Lord, in the KJV N.T.. In the same manner, such a person also comes to know All Truth (i.e. things that Jesus wants one to know that are not recorded in the KJV N.T.). This is the only way through which the following operates:
John: 16 KJV N.T.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
The actualization of the Lord Jesus Christ (i.e. the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus) was not simply physical, intellectual and linear. It was multi dimensional. When the Lord was on earth in a human physical body, his awareness was well beyond the 5th Dimension. To be Christian all humans must be the same. This is the only path to life (i.e. spiritual awareness). Life means eternal life. One's physical life is temporal. In order to have eternal life one must become aware of one's spirit which is beyond physicality and space and time. One must have communion with the spirit reality while one is in one's physical body on earth. This has nothing to do with the law, the letters, canons etc.

Much foolishness was and continue to be, passed off as the path to eternal life and/or Christianity.

Gurucam
November 15th, 2015, 12:39 PM
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Dialm & Psalmist,

1. The spirit dimension is beyond the 5th dimension. There are even more dimensions, beyond the 5th dimension. The spiritually dead (also called 'the dead') are preoccupied with and stuck in, the base five dimensions.

2. These are the five dimensions: They are the gross or denser or lower dimensions. The physical or 'seen' world/reality is the first three dimension. This refers to length, breadth and height. The other two dimensions are time and space. These constitute the base five dimensions. These dimensions do not reflect truth. They present a distortion of reality. A fabrication of reality. It is how our limited five physical senses discern things (the creation).

3. These five lower dimensions are not a trap but they can become a trap for some humans. These dimension are neutral. However people can make these five dimensions, their trap when they perceive that this is all there is to God's creation. Satan thrives and rule over people who are trapped in these lower five dimensions. It seems that billions who are in physical bodies, on earth at this time, are trapped in these five base dimensions. Their perceptions are limited to only physicality.

People who are functional only through their five physical senses perceives that these five dimension are all there is to God's creation. While they live on earth they do not perceive their own spirits and the spirit dimension which is beyond these five dimensions.

4. Then when they die on earth they loose total awareness. Whether buried or not they sink into the depth of earth in totally unconscious state. Eventually some of them might awaken inside the earth. They would not have physical bodies. Their physical bodies would have gone dust to dust. However they will perceive that they still have physical bodies.

Also their perceptions will be that they are in a time/space warp where the law, sin and punishment in hell rules, unequivocally and the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine. They will experience wrath for transgressing the law (even if it was in the least way). There, they will also be held under the rule and prompt operation of the law, sin and punishment.

For them everything else will be earth like. However they will be inside earth. The light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not and will not shine in their world. Also because they would not be able to uphold the law, their life will be perpetual punishment for sin. Their world will be a living hell. In fact their would is conformed to all those sad dooms day predictions in the KJV N.T.

5. Entanglement with the law, sin and punishment in hell is an absolutely dangerous thing. That is righteousness of God that is with the law. One should drop that quickly and embrace righteousness of God that is without the law. However one can do this only according to the guidelines in the KJV N.T.

One who does not embrace righteousness of God that is without the law according to the guidelines in the KJV N.T. remains under the law, sin and punishment in hell, one way or the other.I am teaching liberation from the curse that is the law through recognition, acceptance, awareness and adoption of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. My teaching is a labor of love for you guys.

Righteousness of God that is without the law was manifested for delivering you guys from hell. This is through the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is the Spirit that was promised to Abraham and his seed. You guys denied this offering and continue with the law. The law was declared to be a curse. Some of you went further into 'curse' by embracing canons.

The Lord Jesus has benefited you guys nothing.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
The Lord confirms that in that space time warp (which is within the depths of earth):
Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
6. The unaware or spiritually dead people are trapped in these five dimensions. It like being trapped in a 'space-time warp'. The spiritually dead (children of the flesh) are often described as 'having a 'vail' over their 'eyes to see', their 'ears to hear' and their 'hearts to understand'. This means that their inherent intuitive/spirit capacity to discern the reality beyond the 5th dimension is 'vailed' or blocked by their own fear, foolish conditioning and foolish belief system.

Matthews:13 KJV N.T.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross (they had 'vails' over their hearts), and their ears are dull of hearing (they had 'vails' over their 'ears to hear'), and their eyes they have closed (they had 'vails' over their 'eyes to see'); lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. The 'eyes to see', 'ears to hear' and 'hearts to understand' are intuitive faculties of one's spirit body. Becoming spiritually aware is the act of becoming aware of these faculties and this bring them into functionality.

To become spiritually aware or aware of one's own heart or spirit, (i.e. to become 'born again') one must be able to (and must) transcend these lower five dimensions. This is essentially an act of bringing one's right side brain hemisphere 'on line'. This is achieved by transcending one's sub-conscious mind (which operates through one's left side brain hemisphere). This will bring one naturally and spontaneously into awareness of one's higher expanded and unbounded mind.

Reading and rereading my posts and contemplating them, with an open and inquiring intent can and will bring you to this transcendence. This will enable you to rise above (transcend) you automatic, default sub-conscious mind and deliver you onto your higher expanded and unbounded mind. They you will become 'born again', born of spirit.

To view the experience of a person who had her 'eyes to see' intuitive faculty functional, live and direct, . click on the following:

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=jill+bolt+taylor+insight&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002 Then click on Jill Bolt Taylor Stroke insight, on Ted talk.

Remember there are also 'ears to hear' and 'heart to understand'. This person did not show actualization of these other intuitive/spirit/right brain actualization or faculties. Also her actualization seemed to have been a forced and temporary. However it is can be said to be a gift from God. An experience/event which can give light to many . . . as she is doing.

After becoming spiritually aware and spiritually functional, it is absolutely incumbent on you to discern the Spirit of the Lord Jesus in the spirit realm and be led into all your works only by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for you to know and do.

7. When people speak of 'thinking outside the box' they are wittingly or not, asking that one transcend one's (self imposed anchor and preoccupation) with physicality. That is, one is being asked to go beyond the base five dimensions and come up ideas which results from spirit discernment of the far more expanded and more informed, 'not seen'/spirit reality.

In order to 'thinking outside the box' one must be spiritually aware. One must not only transcend the lower three dimensions one must also simultaneously transcend the two other which are time and space.

8. This puts one into awareness of the spiritual dimension which connect every one and every thing in creation. This is where All Truth can be discerned. However one can still do the work of Satan from this level of spiritual, expanded and unbounded awareness. Those who operate from this spirit level with out the guidance of the spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus can and will inevitably serve Satan and other undesirable entities and ideas.

Some people are led to find this spirit level of awareness by modern self help gurus. These gurus bring their charges to spiritual awareness and take them no further. If fact they promote that by operating from this level, one can manifest anything that one wants. Fact is these modern self help gurus are not enlightened. They do not know enough. They have not show their charges the final step. Fact is no one is given to materialize just any thing that he wants.

People's God endorsed missions on earth, are preordained. One would not and do not know what to pray for, ask for or do. They must be guided into these things.

There are definite further steps which these modern self help gurus are not aware off and which they therefore cannot and do not teach. The bounties or largess which people might get through their spiritual actualization would not serve them well if it is arbitrarily chosen. It will not serve them well if these bounties or largess are not inline with their preordained God endorsed mission on earth.

9. It is not a free for all. If one want to be relevant for, functional in and remain on earth, in the new age of Aquarius, under Christianity, there is another critical step and actualization that a spiritually aware and spiritually functional person must under go. One must know how to be and must be, sinless and one must be able to access and live in God's kingdom of heaven.

After achieving the above described, spiritual, expanded and unbounded awareness, the following must be achieved: by operating through one's own spirit, one must discern the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, in the spirit realm. Then one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for one to do. This will make one a Christian/child of God. Then one will be relevant for, functional in and remain on earth, in the new age of Aquarius.

What the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for each person is a perfect amalgam of: a. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration which that person loves within his own heart or spirit and b. the live will of the living God (the live will of the living God is the Holy Spirit).

It is not that one cannot arbitrarily choose what one wants to express and materialize through one's spiritual actualization. It is simply that one cannot make those choices now. One has already arbitrarily choose what one wants to express and materialize through one's spiritual actualization. The free choice were made before birth. It is all preordained.

Indeed what one can express and materialize on earth, through one's spiritual actualization are founded on one's absolute free choice. However this choice was made by each person, before birth and 'approved' by God. People tend to forget or be derailed off this agreement after they are born on earth.

At all events, people who abandon their pre-birth 'agreement' with God (i.e. their preordained mission) fall from Grace of God. They are the children of the flesh.

One is a child of God and Christian, only when one is serving and/or have fully served, one's preordained mission.

Gurucam
November 16th, 2015, 03:33 PM
Dialm & Psalmist,

Everyone is not faced with extinction from the surface of earth. Only children of the flesh are seriously jeopardized.

The KJV N.T. confirms that children of God will inherit earth without children of the flesh.

Children of the flesh are 'the dead', in Jesus instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead'. They will all end-up inside the depths of earth. Some are already there for 2000 odd years.

Children of the flesh find great solace in the belief that every one is jeopardized.

It is expedient that: only now, they know the truth. They are all going to a different parallel earth of there own making. Children of the flesh go to a parallel earth which they have destroyed in order to have the life which they esteem.

Fact is children of the flesh are responsible for destroying God's creation. They live according to their physical perceptions. Physical perceptions are not informed by 'total knowledge'. Also children of the flesh do not discern their connectivity with God's creation. Also they do not know how to do thing without destroying God's creation.

Those who rise above physical perceptions achieve live and perpetual communion with the spiritual or Quantum field. Then they realize that they are connected to every thing in God's creation. Also their perceptions becomes 'total'. When they act from this higher and total perception their actions naturally, spontaneously and always preserve God's creation. They are the children of God.

At all level humans are personally and individually responsible for their chosen life style. It is their free choice. There is, therefore, no need for fussing when each person end-up in a precise destination that result precisely from his or her own actions.

More precisely, everyone should be pleased because everyone end-up in a parallel destination dimension that is precisely conformed to his or her chosen life style. No one can drags another person to an end that he did not create for himself . . . . .


Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Gurucam
November 17th, 2015, 02:31 PM
Dialm & Psalmist,

Bear in mind that my posts are not aimed directly on you guys. They are written for the widest possible audience. I am ever grateful for your input. Together we might help a few.

Most everyone in traditional Christianity delight in the law. They discern the law to be an appropriate management tool which works for them. They perceive that the law is necessary for keeping their spouses, etc. loyal and in line. They perceive that everyone must be under the law (i.e. the Ten Commandments).

They do not recognize that the law (although given by God) is simply for temporary use, i.e. until one comes onto faith and Christ. This means that, one who in the slightest way esteems the law, cannot be a Christian. He or she is not (yet) unto Christ.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Most traditional Christians have no conception of what it means to be in Christ. They foolishly believe that when a person comes onto Christ he or she will up hold the law. They are sadly and gravely mistaken.

Fact is, one comes onto Christ when one is led into all of one's works by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, as discerned within one's own heart or spirit. Then one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. The law has absolutely no dominion over them. In fact Christians are required to and will, transgress the law in order to obey the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, unconditionally.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
11. For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

Because traditional Christians delight in the law they like to quote the following:

Matthews: 5 KJV N.T.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
However they ignore, undermine and/or distort:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Indeed the law is still intact but only for those who still delight in and esteem the law. They are under the law. However those who delight in and esteem the law are comfortable only when they believe that everyone is under the law, sin and punishment in hell. They have built their 'comfort' on foolishness (and bad mind).

These unfortunate people delight in the law, sin and punishment in hell. However they do not like those things for themselves only. They are not content with simply liking those things for themselves. They like those things for everyone. They are gravely mistake (i.e. 'dead and buried' gravely mistaken). They and only they, will eventually go to a parallel earth where the law, sin and punishment in hell is the total way of life and rule. The sun, the moon and stars do not shine there. That place is hell because although they have put themselves under the law and parrot the law, they cannot and do not uphold the law. They accrue sin and punishment in hell perpetually.

They are the dead who bury their dead. They will go to a place which is conformed to their choice and mouth confession and they cannot take anyone else (who do not esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell) there with them. These people are 'the dead who bury their dead'. They do not follow the Lord Jesus, who offered righteousness of God that is without the law.

When their immediate family members, friend, relatives and others dies on earth they bury them in the earth (in hell with Satan) together with their dead physical bodies, for a supposed undefined stay. These are the children of the flesh. When they realize this fact they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth. :bang: They are not Christians.

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
The beauty and fair fact is that those who do not delight in the law are not under the law. They will not go that way. Indeed those who have adapted righteousness of God that is without the law are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus as discerned within each of their own hearts or spirits.

They have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. They inevitably go to God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and elsewhere. When these people die on earth they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to like angels in (spirit) heaven. These are the children of God. These are the Christians.

These people (Christians) most definitely do not go to the parallel earth of those who delight in the law, sin and punishment in hell.

There is no Math in this. There is only wide spread and deliberate distortion of KJV N.T. revelations by people who are loyal to the Old system, (the law). These people continue to have the same disposition and loyalty to the Old system, as those who aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ, 2000 odd years ago.

For the past 2000 odd years, they have simply been denying, persecuting, torturing, blaspheming and crucifying the Lord over and over again. They do this while issuing false praise to the Lord Jesus, through their mouths.

These unfortunate people do not believe that the Lord Jesus can and will seek revenge for this practice. They are seriously and gravely mistaken. We are in the fullness of time and "their foot is sliding"

Deuteronomy 32 KJV
35 To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Also these unfortunate people (who delighted in the law) do not take ordinary and/or 'softened' advise. They cannot be reached with soft and kind words. They like to be pampered. Therefore for the past 2000 odd years, they were putty in the hands of many false prophets, who sought their tithes and offerings. These false prophets were delivering to them on their terms. These false prophets told these people just what they wanted to hear and they simply became more embedded in the law. All they got from these associations were social moment in these churches. Also it was and continue to be through these churches that "the dead buried their dead".

2000 odd years of this corruption has ensued. People's brains are seriously contaminated and conditioned with the law, sin and punishment in hell. Now these people who are under the law have to get the direct, flat out brazen fact of their very serious predicament. They have to be struck with unadulterated and potent fire and Spirit. So as to try to save them from eventually weeping and gnashing their teeth and :bang: and being :stuck: in :olinger:

Those under the law and also claiming to be Christians are the false prophets :devil: or firmly among false prophets :devil: who are misleading many. These people distort the KJV N.T. They are the unaware false brethren mentioned in:
Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren :devil: unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
:idea: :idea: to :1Way: :first: : Hope that you can now discern that the above revelations very clearly confirm that: One comes onto Christ when one is led into all of one's works by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, as discerned within one's own heart or spirit. Then one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. :idea: :idea:

You will be favored by the Lord Jesus and God if you shout this on the mountain tops and tell it to everyone . . . . after you have come to know it in your own heart or spirit.

The Christian way is that one can confess things only after one knows them (intuitively) in (or through) one's own heart or spirit from direct individualized and private communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

To be a Christian one must know the above (the statement post in red) through one's own spirit, from direct individualized and private communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Gurucam
November 19th, 2015, 10:02 AM
Dialm & Psalmist,

My job in the body of Christ, under Grace of God is simply to post these truths.

The promise is that all things (all truths) will be brought to light in the fullness of time. I am given to simply serving this promise.

I have and take no further authority.

Luke: 8 KJV N.T.
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Mark: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

Gurucam
November 19th, 2015, 03:43 PM
~*~*~

Recap: - my highlighting the issue of emphasis of rejecting the law (law of Moses or any universal laws for that matter) still hold. In any 'age' or 'time',...any universal laws that govern actions, still maintains, so that if you abide by any law you experience the life-enhancing benefit of such, being in harmony with divine law, and will experience suffering and 'death' by the transgression of such laws.

Universal laws still hold in all worlds where cause/effect, action/reaction, sequence/consequence continues,....you cannot escape such laws as even Paul speaks of these laws of life and death. 'Heaven' or 'hell' are more or less states or conditions of consciousness, so whether they be 'determined' in this world or any world,...those degrees, qualities and laws of consciousness still hold and pertain.

So, if your religious mythology includes a "rapture" of sorts (take that figuratively or literally),...you still qualify for such a rapture by meeting the requirements/conditions to affect such an experience, while those not meeting those requirements do not have that experience. Universal laws of Nature and Spirit still hold.....

O.K.

I do not disagree with your right and choice to hold what you hold.

In fact I will support your right to hold what you choose to hold.

What hold for you, holds for you and only you. It is all mutually exclusive. And it is all fair.

What you hold is your entanglement. That will work for you, to take you to where you will go. It is your karma. It is all O.K.

It is not necessary to know what you choose to hold. It is is not necessary for me or anyone else to know the details or fabric of what you hold. Fact is when you get right down to it no two people hold exactly the same set of ideas. Be happy. However, rest comfortably that your choice will take you to a place perfectly conformed to your choice.

I can have no authority to challenge what you hold. Also I seek to have no authority to challenge what you hold.

Additionally, I hold no stated position of my own.

Here I post the position of the Lord Jesus as obtained through my own spirit from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and literally supported by revelations in the KJV N.T..

I do not seek to modify or argue with the Lord Jesus.

I am simply saying my piece as obtain directly, precisely privately and intuitively through my own spirit from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and literally supported by revelations in the KJV N.T..

heir
November 19th, 2015, 05:09 PM
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]This is critically importance. The reality on the surface of earth is not the same. It changed seriously at the end of September, 2015, through a new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies.

The Old Age of Pisces, which was anchored on physicality, has ended. The New Age of Aquarius, which is anchored on Spirituality, has dawned.
:AMR:


Acts 17:22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.

Gurucam
November 19th, 2015, 07:46 PM
:AMR:


Acts 17:22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.

Indeed those men of Athens were probably too superstitious in all things.

It is not at all superstitious to believe that one who esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell will indeed go to a place where the law, sin and punishment in hell is the only rule. For 'what a man sow, that shall he reap.

The sad part is that all who are under the law, sin. There is no escaping. Therefore they must all suffer punishment in hell. In fact, right before all our eyes, when they die, they are sent to hell, inside the earth, with Satan, for an undisclosed stay. Some are inside the earth, in hell, with Satan, for as long as 2000 odd years and counting.

Also the law, sin and punishment in hell applies only to those who esteem the law, for what so ever thing the law says, it says only for those under the law.

Fact is 2000 odd years ago, the Lord introduced righteousness of God that is without the law. This was given to relieve those people from the curse that is the law. Only a chosen few embraced this new, righteousness of God that is without the law.

The question is are you standing firm with righteous of God that is with the law, sin and punishment in hell or have you embraced righteousness of God that is without the law which is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus?

This is the same as asking, are you among 'the dead who bury their dead' or have you learn how to follow or be led by, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and transgress the law in order to follow the Spirit of the Lord Jesus?

These statements and questions are all literally and clearly supported by revelations in the KJV N.T.

'Superstitious' is to go outside the KJV N.T. and hold one's own wishful and/or convenient ideas.

Indeed, some people believe that they are so powerful. They believe that they can uphold the law perfectly and not get sin and not have to go to hell for punishment. Although it is confirmed that all who are under the law, sin and fall short of the glory of God.

It is a very grave (as being buried in the earth with one's dead physical body) mystery why people would still stay under the law, sin and punishment in hell, when one is guaranteed to sin and reach hell under that system. This is doubly puzzling given the fact that Jesus left the option of righteousness of God that is without the law.

One will certainly be asking one self, questions related to the above puzzle, sooner or later. In fact one will certainly be asked to clear up the above mystery on judgment day.

These foolish people seem to believe that they can override, 'what a man sow, that shall he reap'. They seem to believe that they can esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell and they will not be subjected to these.

Also they assume the power to twist the revelations in the KJV N.T. so as to make them fit their own ideas. Indeed although the KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that 'what so ever the law says, it says only to those under the law', these unfortunate people promote that every one is under the law.

The do not care about the Lord Jesus and His costly work. They routinely deny and undermine His work. They also routinely deny His Spirit by denying that righteousness of God without the law, exist. However they hope that He will return eventually to shout out to them, when they are in their graves in the depths of earth, so that they can rise out of these graves. Fact is 2000 odd years have ensued and the Lord has not made the appearance which they expect.

Isn't it monumental foolishness to hold on to the law? More serious and unforgivable, isn't denial of righteousness of God that is without the law, denial and blasphemy of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus?

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 19th, 2015, 08:09 PM
My job in the body of Christ, under Grace of God is simply to post these truths.



You have no job IN the Body of Christ, since you aren't part of the Body.

And these aren't "truths".

Gurucam
November 19th, 2015, 08:44 PM
You have no job IN the Body of Christ, since you aren't part of the Body.

And these aren't "truths".

Are you Christian? Can't simply expect anyone to simply take a 'yes' answer from you. On judgment day your actions will count not words.

On judgment day, it will be determined and known if you were and are Christian when you and if you answer the following questions which are founded on literal revelations in the KJV N.T. It is good practice to answer them now. You should not have anything to hide.

Please answer them now. Failure to answer them will also be an answer. One will know if you are a Christian, any which way:

1. Do you bury your deceased family members, relatives, friend and/or associates in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return?

2. Or do they become Christians in their life time and so differ in no way from the Lord Jesus (except that Jesus is Lord of All). So that when they die, they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven.

Do you do the first crappy thing or the second Christian thing?

The first thing (# 1.) is 'the dead burying their dead'. The second thing (# 2.) is how one follows the Lord Jesus.

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Which do you do?

Do you make Soma? How do you do that? Or is that a 'fancy' word you simply call your self? How is that connected to Christianity. 'Soma' seems to be Sanskrit.

Does 'Soma' help you to know who is in the body of Christ and who is not in the body of Christ? Do please tell. Is 'Soma' a magical elixir? Please share.

You said to me: "You have no job IN the Body of Christ, since you aren't part of the Body. And these aren't "truths"". I quite agree, indeed, what you said are not truths. Do you perceive that it is 'Soma' talking? Is that your perception? How do you come to trust your perceptions? Is it because you believe that you are making/having Soma?

What makes you 'smart'? You seem to be a really bad advertisement for Soma.

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 19th, 2015, 09:46 PM
Are you Christian? Can't simply expect anyone to simply take a 'yes' answer from you. On judgment day your actions will count not words.

On judgment day, it will be determined and known if you were and are Christian when you and if you answer the following questions which are founded on literal revelations in the KJV N.T. It is good practice to answer them now. You should not have anything to hide.

Please answer them now. Failure to answer them will also be an answer. One will know if you are a Christian, any which way:

1. Do you bury your deceased family members, relatives, friend and/or associates in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return?

2. Or do they become Christians in their life time and so differ in no way from the Lord Jesus (except that Jesus is Lord of All). So that when they die, they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven.

Do you do the first crappy thing or the second Christian thing?

The first thing (# 1.) is 'the dead burying their dead'. The second thing (# 2.) is how one follows the Lord Jesus.

Which do you do?

Do you make Soma? How do you do that? Or is that a 'fancy' word you simply call your self? How is that connected to Christianity. 'Soma' seems to be Sanskrit.

Does 'Soma' help you to know who is in the body of Christ and who is not in the body of Christ? Do please tell. Is 'Soma' a magical elixir? Please share.

You said to me: "You have no job IN the Body of Christ, since you aren't part of the Body. And these aren't "truths"". I quite agree, indeed, what you said are not truths. Do you perceive that it is 'Soma' talking? Is that your perception? How do you come to trust your perceptions? Is it because you believe that you are making/having Soma?

What makes you 'smart'? You seem to be a really bad advertisement for Soma.

Your delusional psychopathy and utter lack of salvific faith is noted. Proceed with your esoteric self-promoting antichrist ramblings.

Gurucam
November 19th, 2015, 10:07 PM
Your delusional psychopathy and utter lack of salvific faith is noted. Proceed with your esoteric self-promoting antichrist ramblings.

What does those words have to do with being Christian and knowing truth? They are simply sad and baseless, harangue and irrational rambling.

I engaged you constructively with revelations from the KJV N.T. There can be no better Christian approach. You offer the above rambling and want to pass that off as some kind of 'wisdom'. Your rhetoric accusations are unsupported, irrational and wild. You seem to be lost in the wilderness.

I urge you to come home to the KJV N.T. and the Lord Jesus. This is the shelter and resource for aspiring Christians and Christians.

You perceive that you have a gift to make unilateral pronouncements. Do you perceive that you get this capacity through Soma?

Your rhetoric above seem to describe you and your approach. Your rhetoric is a confession of sorts. However, I do not take confessions.

Where are the facts to support your accusations? Again, do you perceive that 'Soma' (the Hindu elixir of wisdom) is making you say those things? Please answer.

You call yourself Soma. Does that make you a Christian expert? Is this what you believe?

Is Soma connected to Christianity? If Soma is connected to Christianity please share the facts. Many people want to be Christian. Let us leave no stone un-turned. Come on board. Bring your hidden wisdom on board. Whether it is pneumatic, pseudo or Soma, please bring it forth in black and white.

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 19th, 2015, 10:51 PM
What does those words have to do with being Christian and knowing truth? They are simply sad and baseless, harangue and irrational rambling.

I engaged you constructively with revelations from the KJV N.T. There can be no better Christian approach.

Your rhetoric above seem to describe you and your approach. Your rhetoric is a confession of sorts. However, I do not take confessions.

Where are the facts to support your accusations? Again, do you perceive that 'Soma' (the Hindu elixir of wisdom) is making you say those things? Please answer.

You call yourself Soma. Does that make you a Christian expert? Is this what you believe?

Is Soma connected to Christianity? If Soma is connected to Christianity please share the facts. Many people want to be Christian. Let us leave no stone un-turned. Come on board. Bring your hidden wisdom on board. Whether it is pneumatic, pseudo or Soma, please bring it forth in black and white.

You do not engage anyone constructively.

Soma is the Greek word for body; just as pneuma and psuche are the Greek words for spirit and soul, respectively.

You have no understanding of the inspired text, and you are promoting many things instead of the actual historical Christian faith.

I will not "come on board", and there is no "hidden" wisdom.

You are not a Christian. Nothing in your OP or this thread is Christian. You are an anti-Christian esotericist, whether deceived or complicit.

You're similar to Freelight and others.

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 04:07 AM
You do not engage anyone constructively.

Soma is the Greek word for body; just as pneuma and psuche are the Greek words for spirit and soul, respectively.

You have no understanding of the inspired text, and you are promoting many things instead of the actual historical Christian faith.

I will not "come on board", and there is no "hidden" wisdom.

You are not a Christian. Nothing in your OP or this thread is Christian. You are an anti-Christian esotericist, whether deceived or complicit.

You're similar to Freelight and others.

The above is your foolish and/or corrupt opinion.


Matthew: 7 KJV N.T.
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You are wicked. You are serving Satan. You do not want aspiring Christians to know truth.

It is clear that you are covertly delivering people to Satan in hell and falsely describing that as 'Christianity. And indeed this is the historic tradition of your and others like you. Simply because it is the historic practiced does not make it correct. 2000 odd years ago, the Lord Jesus made it very clear that many false prophet will misled many. Jesus foresaw that false teachings will dominate what passes for Christianity for the past 2000 odd years. The Lord confirmed that this will lead to many being called and few being chosen. So what is your point?

You bury your deceased family members, relatives, friend and/or associates in the earth (in hell with Satan) together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return. Some of them are already 2000 odd years in the earth in hell with Satan. (Am I making this up? Is this not what you do?)

In fact billions of traditional Christians routinely do so. They are misled by the likes of people like you. They cannot be the few who have found the strait gate and narrow way.

1. Don't you bury your deceased family members, relatives, friend and/or associates in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return?

The Lord Jesus left another option:

2. Your family members, relatives, friend and/or associates can become Christians in their life time and so differ in no way from the Lord Jesus (except that Jesus is Lord of All). So that when they die, they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven.

Unawares false prophets like you regularly deny the above, so as to keep people under the law and in sin, so that you all can deliver them to hell with Satan, when they die. You are recruiters for hell and Satan.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (of the law, sin and punishment in hell)

I urge readers to beware of people like PneumaPsucheSoma and their Greek affiliations. They are Old Testament people simply pretending to be Christians. They are spies among innocent unsuspecting Christians. They are false prophets who came in Jesus' name and they have been misguiding many.

They infiltrated Christianity every where. For the past 2000 years they used any which way to fool aspiring Christians into bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Please wake up to the fact that, with effect from 2000 odd years ago, the Lord Jesus introduced the Christian path which is through righteousness of God that is without the law. This is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

PneumaPsucheSoma and his kind will deny this fact so as to keep sending people to Satan in hell.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Readers, please beware. Come on to truth now. Be among the last few to know and adopt truth and you will be among the chosen few.

Matthew: 20 KJV N.T.
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Do not go down that very dangerous road which lead to the law, sin and punishment in darkness in hell, which PneumaPsucheSoma is promoting.

The choice is yours. Choose carefully:

Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Christians are heirs through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, not at all through the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Romans: 4 KJV N.T.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Hope that I do not have to, any more, prove that PneumaPsucheSoma is real terminal bad news for aspiring Christians and Christians. He is of the tribe/disposition of Ishmael. He will be weeping and gnashing his teeth. He cannot help any aspiring Christian or Christian:

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
PneumaPsucheSoma is of the tribe/disposition of Ishmael (flesh born). He is not of the tribe of Isaac (Spirit born).

Galatians: 4 KJBV N.T.
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: . . .
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
The above is allegory. It applies to the worldwide reality. The promise is that only children of God (i.e. children of the promise) will inherit earth without children of the flesh.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth 'fruit unto death' (i.e. children of the flesh).
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter . . . so that we would bring forth fruit unto God (i.e. children of the Spirit/children of God)
The above revelations confirms 1.) 'children of the flesh are led by the law, sin and punishment in hell. They always bring forth only children of the flesh. 2.) On the other hand those who transgress the law and are led by the Spirit always bring forth only children of God. 3.) Children of God will inherit earth without children of the flesh.

Why would anyone want to remain under the law, sin and punishment in hell? Even worse, why would one want to remain under the law, sin and punishment in hell and also procreate? . . . when the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is ready willing and able to lead one into bringing forth only children of God through their procreative sex. And also deliver one into God's kingdom of heaven.

It is commonly but seriously erroneously held by traditional Christians that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is the Holy Spirit. The following revelation clear that up:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
The above revelation confirms that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. This confirms that the Spirit of the Lord is not the Holy Holy Spirit. This is a New Spirit. The Holy Spirit was present before, when the law was present and totally applicable. There was no liberty under the Holy Spirit, the law was totally applicable. The Holy Spirit continued to be present, however there is liberty. It is confirmed that Now (since 2000 odd years ago) "Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty' Therefore it is with the advent of a New Spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, that liberty to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God was established. This is further confirmed by:

John: 4 KJV N.T.
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.The above revelations confirm very clearly that God is a Spirit. It is did not say that God is the Spirit. God is the Holy Spirit and only one among many Spirits. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is another Spirit. The Spirit of the Lord is separate from the Holy Spirit and makes intercession with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of humans. The Spirit of the Lord 'sits' on the right side of the Holy Spirit, in spirit heaven.

Clearly for the past 2000 odd years, high foolishness dominated and pervaded what passes for Christianity as promoted by PneumaPsucheSoma and his likes. This is why many are called and few chosen. The very great majority, billions, were misled by false prophets and err and were not chosen. They did not make it. They are all in the earth, in hell with Satan. However this can change for you who are still alive on earth.

Now correction is at hand. Now in the fullness of time, in these last days truth is being confirmed in absolute clarity for all to know. Do not take my posts lightly.

Please do not listen to foolish people. The cost is very high. You will land in hell with Satan.

Readers, your best bet is to send PneumaPsucheSoma to face the 'corner of the class room' for the rest of his life. He is not willing to learn anything new and he will disrupt the class for those willing to learn. The lessons being offered are very critical. If he is further disruptive to our class, he will be firmly dealt with by the Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, Lord Jesus.

PneumaPsucheSoma come off like a 'bad john'. He is reminiscent of the Jews of 2000 odd years ago. They denied, persecuted undermined and blasphemed the Lord Jesus Christ and then aided His tortured and crucifixion. They are not forgiven for that act, so far. The heavens are sill very much in anger about that act. They will seek and obtain their vengeance. You do not want to encourage PneumaPsucheSoma or be party to his actions. Stay as far as possible from him. He is real bad news.

Currently there are people of PneumaPsucheSoma disposition (of total physicality), who are seeking to enter the spirit or quantum level (i.e. the heavenly realm where spirit being traverse freely). These unfortunate people of earth, are not welcomed among those spirit people of heaven. The being in that world are all spirits and they are all peers of the Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, Lord Jesus. They all love the Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, Lord Jesus, totally and unconditionally.

These earthly humans who ventured there uninvited, have been warned to never return to that realm. These unfortunate humans are destine for a resident in an under world within the depths of earth. The light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine there. The rule there are the detailed letter of the law, sin and punishment in hell is strictly enforced. No one can or do uphold the law. Therefore life there is just hell with Satan. These unfortunate people are not destine to be above the surface of earth, in the heavens, among heavenly beings. PneumaPsucheSoma is inviting you to this hell based after life, reality.

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 09:39 AM
The path to Christianity is straight and clear but not widely known. It is not at all through the law, sin and punishment in hell. It is solely through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

The law is your schoolmaster to bring you onto faith and Christ then you drop the law. Then you are like Isaac. You have earned the promise of the Spirit. You are a child of God and a Christian. You are no longer a Jew or a Greek.

Most important, you are no longer, at all, under the law, sin and punishment in hell. You are under the law, sin and punishment in hell only before or until you become Christian.

You are a new creature in Christ. You are in Christ. You are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and you have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

Also, you differ in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, with only one exception. Jesus is Lord of All. If Keith is your name, you become Keith Christ. You have authority to put on Christ.

However and most important, because you differ in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, (with only one exception that Jesus is Lord of All), when you die you rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like and angel in heaven. You are never buried with your dead physical body in the depths of earth in hell with Satan to wait indefinitely. Only the dead go through that path.
Mark 12 KJV N.T.
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Traditional Christians are misled into believing that this verse relates to Jesus raising one out of the earth as He did to Lazarus. They also erroneously link this to the Lord raising them out of their graves in the depths of earth.

Those are very grave errors.

'Raising one out of the earth' in a restored physical body is not related to 'rising to be like an angel in heaven'.

'Raising one out of earth' is geared to raise the spiritually dead out of the depths of earth. This is geared to return spiritually dead people to earth in human physical bodies (as the Lord did for Lazarus). This is intended to give 'the dead' a second chance to be transformed from being 'the dead' to becoming spiritually aware and a Christian. A life on earth in a human physical body is required for this transformation.

'Rising to be like an angel in heaven' is totally different. This is related to people who are already spiritually aware and in Christ. This relates to people who are already spiritually aware and Christians when they died on earth. These people are not buried in the earth with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely. Only the dead go through that pathway. Instead when spiritually aware people who are Christians die on earth, they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus Christ) to be like angels in heaven.

It is very critical that one knows the above mystery.

False Prophet
November 20th, 2015, 10:07 AM
Sophist!

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 10:16 AM
Sophist!

Simplistic denial? How will that help any one?

All literally supporting KJV N.T. revelations are provided.

Are you 'running with the hare and hunting with the hounds'?

Fear not, be counted, state your position in clarity. Enough 'serious mess' prevails.

Do you not agree that many are called and few chosen?

Do you not agree that many false prophets came in Jesus' name and has misled many?

Do you not agree that people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God?

Is it not reasonable that the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth must surface in the fullness of time?

There is only one act that is not forgivable at any place or time:
Matthews: 12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
This warning centers on Paul's commission which is based on the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Fact is all bets are off, all promises void, if one has blasphemed Paul's spirit and Spirit based commission, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and/or the Holy Spirit.

Seems that traditional Christians have continuously and consistently blasphemed Paul's spirit and Spirit based commission so as to promote their law based commission as being singular and supreme. This is what they did as far as one can remember. They corrupted, denied and blasphemed Jesus' authentic Christian tradition. This is anchored in Paul's commission which is based on the spirit of each person and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Ghost.

Indeed traditional Christians (billions) have consistently, continuously and erroneously promoted that Paul's spirit and Spirit based commission is the same as Peter's law based commission.

They also continuously and erroneously promoted that both commission are anchored on the law. They never had and did not and do not promote any spirit and Spirit based commission. They held and promoted only a dead commission. The were and continue to be, the dead who buried their dead.

These are very serious difficult circumstances. Sad and terminal circumstances.

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 11:50 AM
Romans: 8 KJV N.T
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
The Christian way is to search one's heart or spirit to discern precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do and do so, even if one has to transgress the law.

A Christian is freed from the yolk of bondage. He is freed from circumcision under the law. One who is circumcised under the law is a debtor to do the whole law. Christians are not, at all, in that predicament.

Many false prophets have kept billions under the law whiles fooling them into believing that they are Christians. These false prophets were and continue to be Old Testament people. They were out to destroy the Lord Jesus and Christianity.

Romans: 8 verse: 2 KJV N.T., confirmed that "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."

"The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus" is the Christians way. It is confirmed very clearly that "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (the Christians way) hath made one free from the law of sin and death." . . . Why then, are Christians told that they are still under the law?

One who is under the law inevitably sin and have to get punishment in hell. Who started and promoted this corrupt Antichrist/Satanic practice? Who envied Christians? Who wanted to return Christians into to bondage under the law. sin and punishment in hell? Who are these false brethren who came among Christians as spies, so as to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell? Indeed Satan and his operatives.

The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made humans free from the law of sin and death. How clear is this revelation.

Among traditional Christians, few know what is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. Therefore few have embraced it. Most (billions) have stayed under the law of sin and death. This is what their leaders did to them.

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 20th, 2015, 01:51 PM
The above is your foolish and/or corrupt opinion.

You are wicked. You are serving Satan. You do not want aspiring Christians to know truth.

It is clear that you are covertly delivering people to Satan in hell and falsely describing that as 'Christianity. And indeed this is the historic tradition of your and others like you. Simply because it is the historic practiced does not make it correct. 2000 odd years ago, the Lord Jesus made it very clear that many false prophet will misled many. Jesus foresaw that false teachings will dominate what passes for Christianity for the past 2000 odd years. The Lord confirmed that this will lead to many being called and few being chosen. So what is your point?

You bury your deceased family members, relatives, friend and/or associates in the earth (in hell with Satan) together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return. Some of them are already 2000 odd years in the earth in hell with Satan. (Am I making this up? Is this not what you do?)

In fact billions of traditional Christians routinely do so. They are misled by the likes of people like you. They cannot be the few who have found the strait gate and narrow way.

1. Don't you bury your deceased family members, relatives, friend and/or associates in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return?

The Lord Jesus left another option:

2. Your family members, relatives, friend and/or associates can become Christians in their life time and so differ in no way from the Lord Jesus (except that Jesus is Lord of All). So that when they die, they rise in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven.

Unawares false prophets like you regularly deny the above, so as to keep people under the law and in sin, so that you all can deliver them to hell with Satan, when they die. You are recruiters for hell and Satan.

I urge readers to beware of people like PneumaPsucheSoma and their Greek affiliations. They are Old Testament people simply pretending to be Christians. They are spies among innocent unsuspecting Christians. They are false prophets who came in Jesus' name and they have been misguiding many.

They infiltrated Christianity every where. For the past 2000 years they used any which way to fool aspiring Christians into bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Please wake up to the fact that, with effect from 2000 odd years ago, the Lord Jesus introduced the Christian path which is through righteousness of God that is without the law. This is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

PneumaPsucheSoma and his kind will deny this fact so as to keep sending people to Satan in hell.

Readers, please beware. Come on to truth now. Be among the last few to know and adopt truth and you will be among the chosen few.

Do not go down that very dangerous road which lead to the law, sin and punishment in darkness in hell, which PneumaPsucheSoma is promoting.

The choice is yours. Choose carefully:

Christians are heirs through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, not at all through the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Hope that I do not have to, any more, prove that PneumaPsucheSoma is real terminal bad news for aspiring Christians and Christians. He is of the tribe/disposition of Ishmael. He will be weeping and gnashing his teeth. He cannot help any aspiring Christian or Christian:

PneumaPsucheSoma is of the tribe/disposition of Ishmael (flesh born). He is not of the tribe of Isaac (Spirit born).

The above is allegory. It applies to the worldwide reality. The promise is that only children of God (i.e. children of the promise) will inherit earth without children of the flesh.

The above revelations confirms 1.) 'children of the flesh are led by the law, sin and punishment in hell. They always bring forth only children of the flesh. 2.) On the other hand those who transgress the law and are led by the Spirit always bring forth only children of God. 3.) Children of God will inherit earth without children of the flesh.

Why would anyone want to remain under the law, sin and punishment in hell? Even worse, why would one want to remain under the law, sin and punishment in hell and also procreate? . . . when the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is ready willing and able to lead one into bringing forth only children of God through their procreative sex. And also deliver one into God's kingdom of heaven.

It is commonly but seriously erroneously held by traditional Christians that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is the Holy Spirit. The following revelation clear that up:

The above revelation confirms that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. This confirms that the Spirit of the Lord is not the Holy Holy Spirit. This is a New Spirit. The Holy Spirit was present before, when the law was present and totally applicable. There was no liberty under the Holy Spirit, the law was totally applicable. The Holy Spirit continued to be present, however there is liberty. It is confirmed that Now (since 2000 odd years ago) "Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty' Therefore it is with the advent of a New Spirit, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, that liberty to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God was established. This is further confirmed by:
The above revelations confirm very clearly that God is a Spirit. It is did not say that God is the Spirit. God is the Holy Spirit and only one among many Spirits. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is another Spirit. The Spirit of the Lord is separate from the Holy Spirit and makes intercession with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of humans. The Spirit of the Lord 'sits' on the right side of the Holy Spirit, in spirit heaven.

Clearly for the past 2000 odd years, high foolishness dominated and pervaded what passes for Christianity as promoted by PneumaPsucheSoma and his likes. This is why many are called and few chosen. The very great majority, billions, were misled by false prophets and err and were not chosen. They did not make it. They are all in the earth, in hell with Satan. However this can change for you who are still alive on earth.

Now correction is at hand. Now in the fullness of time, in these last days truth is being confirmed in absolute clarity for all to know. Do not take my posts lightly.

Please do not listen to foolish people. The cost is very high. You will land in hell with Satan.

Readers, your best bet is to send PneumaPsucheSoma to face the 'corner of the class room' for the rest of his life. He is not willing to learn anything new and he will disrupt the class for those willing to learn. The lessons being offered are very critical. If he is further disruptive to our class, he will be firmly dealt with by the Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, Lord Jesus.

PneumaPsucheSoma come off like a 'bad john'. He is reminiscent of the Jews of 2000 odd years ago. They denied, persecuted undermined and blasphemed the Lord Jesus Christ and then aided His tortured and crucifixion. They are not forgiven for that act, so far. The heavens are sill very much in anger about that act. They will seek and obtain their vengeance. You do not want to encourage PneumaPsucheSoma or be party to his actions. Stay as far as possible from him. He is real bad news.

Currently there are people of PneumaPsucheSoma disposition (of total physicality), who are seeking to enter the spirit or quantum level (i.e. the heavenly realm where spirit being traverse freely). These unfortunate people of earth, are not welcomed among those spirit people of heaven. The being in that world are all spirits and they are all peers of the Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, Lord Jesus. They all love the Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, Lord Jesus, totally and unconditionally.

These earthly humans who ventured there uninvited, have been warned to never return to that realm. These unfortunate humans are destine for a resident in an under world within the depths of earth. The light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not shine there. The rule there are the detailed letter of the law, sin and punishment in hell is strictly enforced. No one can or do uphold the law. Therefore life there is just hell with Satan. These unfortunate people are not destine to be above the surface of earth, in the heavens, among heavenly beings. PneumaPsucheSoma is inviting you to this hell based after life, reality.

On the contrary... I am translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son, seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, living and moving and having my being in Christ, my old man crucified with Christ in whom the (Mosaic) law ceased.

You, on the other hand, are a rambling sophist gnostic esotericist embracing every facet of the counterfeits by the spirit of antichrist.

You are not Christian in any way, shape, form, or fashion. You are one facet of the strong delusion.

You are Satan.

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 03:20 PM
On the contrary... I am translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son, seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, living and moving and having my being in Christ, my old man crucified with Christ in whom the (Mosaic) law ceased.

You, on the other hand, are a rambling sophist gnostic esotericist embracing every facet of the counterfeits by the spirit of antichrist.

You are not Christian in any way, shape, form, or fashion. You are one facet of the strong delusion.

You are Satan.

Good for you.

Then you have no problem.

So much for your nice sounding and self-praising 'words' which can be easily and simply parroted. Let us focus now, on your actions:

What about your dead family members, friends, relatives and associates? Are they still buried in the earth with their dead physical bodies waiting on the return of the Lord Jesus?

As you claim, you are comfortable. You are translated into the Kingdom of God's. However, what about these other people? Obviously they are not in heaven. They are inside the earth waiting and hoping for the return of the Lord Jesus.

Is it that you fix-up yourself real nice. However you left your dead family members, friends, relatives and associates in the hands of Satan in hell? How come?

What is your story about that?

You seem to believe that when you die you will rise, in three days, to be with the Lord Jesus in heaven. A real good hope. When you die you are hoping to follow the Lord to spirit heaven, in quick time. Is this correct?

If you are translated into the Kingdom of God's, it must be that when you die you are going directly to the kingdom of heaven. You are certainly not going to hell with your unfortunate dead family members, friends, relatives, associates, etc.

Therefore the question arises again, what about your unfortunate dead family members, friends, relatives, associates, etc. Are they in the earth in hell, with Satan? Is this where you sent them? And fix up your self, differently?

Any way, what do you mean by:"I am translated into the Kingdom of God's"? . . . . Did you use a Greek/English dictionary to get there?

It is quite common for people to use fast and loose (ambiguous) terms when they are stating something that is not true. Especially if they do not know what they are talking about. Is this your problem? Are you in over your head? Are you simply parroting terms which someone told you?

How does one become translated into the Kingdom of God's"? Do you go through the front cover of a Greek/English dictionary and come out the back cover translated into the Kingdom of God's"? Is this how you did it? That seems to be lettered discernment which killeth. That cannot be the path through the Spirit which giveth life.

Are you sure that you have been translated into the Kingdom of God's? . . . just asking.

dialm
November 20th, 2015, 03:26 PM
There is no liberty to transgress.

Prepare for a showdown Brokencam.

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 07:39 PM
There is no liberty to transgress.

Prepare for a showdown Brokencam.

Is there justification to transgress?

Acts: 13 kjv n.t.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Is justification (in Acts above) related to liberty (in Corinthians above)?

Isn't the following revelation instructing people to transgress the law of sin in order to serve in the newness of spirit?

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth 'fruit unto death' (i.e. children of the flesh).
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter . . . so that we would bring forth fruit unto God (i.e. children of the Spirit/children of God)
The above confirms that one has liberty to transgress the law so as to be led by spirit.

When one transgress the law in order to obey spirit one stop bringing forth "fruits onto death" and start bringing forth "fruits onto God". This pleases God.

Also the revelations say: "For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth 'fruit unto death'"

Also the revelations say: "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held".

These revelations confirm that one is held under the law of sin, only when one is 'dead within'. Those who are 'dead within' are also called 'the dead' (in Jesus statement, 'let the dead bury their dead'). They are not spiritually aware.

They are also called the spiritually dead. They are also called 'the unawares' or 'the unaware'. The law, sin and punishment in hell are only for 'the dead'. The law, sin and punishment in hell are not for the spiritually aware and Christians. The spiritually aware and Christians must serve in the newness of spirit and not at all in the oldness of the law of sin.

It is actually a very grave and unforgivable sin to return spiritually aware people and/or Christians to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell. This is practiced only by unaware people who are Satan operatives. It is an ego thing.

Their actions are about controlling, ruling over and enslaving people. It is about expanding their collection of tithes and offering for their personal material enrichment. It is about enslaving people in servitude to the ruling Satanic status quo. They are undermining Jesus' teaching of individual self liberation.

They desire to (any which way) promote their "law, sin and punishment in hell" tradition as supreme. It is not a caring thing. It is a delivering people into to "hell with Satan" things. It is not at all about delivering people into the care of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and into God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in spirit heaven.


. . . the law, sin and punishment in hell is your schoolmaster to bring you onto spiritual awareness and Christ.

Once you are spiritually aware, you are no longer obligated to esteem or uphold the law. The law gives rise to sin and punishment in hell. When you become spiritually aware, you are instructed to totally drop the law. Whether you were previously under the law as a Jew (i.e. religiously) or a Greek (by conscience), it does not matter. That is all passed away.

Now you are neither Jew or Greek. You are not under the law, either by religion or by conscience. Now you must be a New person in Christ. You must be Christian. You must 'put on' Christ.

A Christian is a spiritually aware person who has put on Christ.

Spiritual awareness enables one to search one's own heart or spirit.

A Christians is a spiritually aware person who has done and/or achieved all of the following:
1. search one's own heart or spirit and achieved communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.
2. is led, unconditionally, into one's works by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do, as discerned through one's own heart or spirit.
3. is led by this Spirit even if one has to transgress the Ten Commandments and all other ideals and laws of society, morality and religiosity.

This above defines a Christian. Only one who has accomplished all the above and live in the above manner is a Christian.

A Christian is totally liberated from bondage under the law. In fact: A Christian has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin, but instead be glorified by God.

Gurucam
November 20th, 2015, 08:24 PM
Dialm,

The entire liberty and justification thing is liberty and justification to transgress the law of sin so as to walk after the Spirit. And when one transgress the law of sin in order to walk after the Spirit, one is glorified by God:


:idea:Romans: 8 KJV N.T
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

:idea:Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Acts: 13 kjv n.t.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
The law of the Spirit of life in Christ is to walk after the Spirit. When one walks after the Spirit one is free from the law of sin. i.e. one has freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law of sin and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

The Spirit mentioned here is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. One will find this Spirit through one's own heart or spirit. The Lord Jesus is in spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body. He is very alive and active in this Spirit only body, both in spirit heaven and on earth. He operates 'unseen' but causes 'seen' things to happen.

Humans must seek the Lord Jesus, in His Spirit only format, in God's kingdom of heaven. He resides there currently. God's kingdom of heaven is spirit based. It is reached individually by each person within or through his or her own heart or spirit.

The Spirit of the Lord Jesus has very specific characteristics and qualities. Only by knowing these specific characteristics and qualities can one identify the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This must be done through one's own heart or spirit. The Lord, in His Spirit form is the Spirit of Truth. In this format He is very alive and functional in spirit heaven.

These specific characteristics and qualities of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are literally recorded in the KJV N.T. However they can be pointed out only by one who has an appropriate, Gift of the Spirit.


Literally and clearly from the KJV N.T.:

Note that: many are called, but few are chosen and whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

What then is this justification?

Here it is: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Dialm, all who are called to be Christians are justified to do all things which they were not justified to do under the law of Moses. And they are also glorified.

A justification is clearly a more powerful entitlement than simply a liberty. A justification is right with vengeance. A justification is not simply a liberty. It is liberty under enforceable entitlement.

This particular justification is a God given and God supported liberty or right to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

It this case if a person (say a spying unaware false brethren) prevents one who is called to be Christian from having the liberty to transgress the law of Moses, that unaware person will receive the wrath of God.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Those who in the least way try to put and/or succeed in putting, aspiring Christians under the slightest use of the Ten Commandment are doomed. They are in grave sin.

The sad fact is that many misguided and foolish people believe that they are serving God by trying to put and/or succeed in putting, aspiring Christians under the Ten Commandment. These people are defying God. They are evil people

Gurucam
November 21st, 2015, 08:08 AM
Dialm,

A special message for you. We both deserve this message.

1. Some people believe that the Lord Jesus rose to heaven in a physical body.

Fact is there are many (billions of) parallel earths, where the Lord Jesus and others can go with or without physical bodies.

However, the Lord did rise to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, body. And He is seated (in that body) on the right side of the Holy Spirit. However simultaneously He is currently in a human physical body in one or more parallel earths.

2. In spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit only body, the Lord provides an eternal function. In that Spirit only body, from spirit heaven, the Lord Jesus is able, ready and willing to make intercession, with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each person.

3. However he does this intercession only according to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirating which are the fabric of each person's (pre-birth) spirit.

4. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus makes intercession with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each human. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus does this according to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirating which are the fabric of each person's (pre-birth) spirit.

5. The Lord cannot provide this service to the spiritually dead (who are also called 'the dead'). The dead cannot be in communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The dead must become spiritually aware in order to access and use this guidance which is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

6. To provide this function, the Lord Jesus is the Spirit of Truth. The Spirit of Truth is an impersonal and purely functional existence of the Lord. This Spirit operates through urgings of love. These arise and are sustained, within each person's heart or spirit, for very specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

7. Also these urgings of love arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within the heart or spirit of each human. These urgings of love arises and are sustained totally outside the volition of the individual.

8. Each individual becomes aware for these urgings of love only after they have arisen and are sustained within his own heart or spirit, for those specific people things and circumstances in God's creation. One simply 'awakens' to these urgings of love. These urgings of love simply arise in one's heart, out of their own volition and 'speak' to and strongly direct one.

These urgings of love leads, never follows. These create and sustains one's reality (one's relationships and associations). These are not the kind that arise after one has created one's reality (i.e. after one has created one's relationships and associations).

9. Then in order to be a child of God (i.e. a Christian) one simply obey these urgings of love, unconditionally. One is simply led, unconditionally, into relationships and associations with these specific people, things and circumstances. This delivers one into one's heaven, here on earth and elsewhere.

10. :idea: :idea: However the Lord Jesus has other powers and other simultaneous functions. He can and do function in many ways, perfectly, uninterruptedly and eternally. He can and does leave His Spirit of Truth body in spirit heaven.

11. This Spirit of Truth continues to perfectly and uninterruptedly provide on going and eternal intercession for humans on earth. Simultaneously the Lord take other forms. This enable Him to take many human physical forms (at will) any where and also operate in other ways and also do other things.

12. The Lord can indeed leave his eternally existing form in heaven and be else where. His eternal Spirit of Truth form will simultaneously function perfectly.

13. This is how the Lord was able to come to earth, in a human physical body, 2000 odd years ago. Indeed the Spirit of Truth (the Lord Spirit form) continued to exist and function from spirit heaven, whiles He was on earth in a human physical body.

14. Also the Lord does not have to return to this earth in order to have a human physical body. However he cannot have a physical human body in spirit heaven. He can have a physical human body only on this earth or on a parallel earth.

15. Fact is the Lord Jesus can also currently be in many physical human bodies, similar to the one He had when He physically walked on earth 2000 odd years ago. However he can do that only in parallels physical earths. He cannot and will not do that on this earth, at this time.

16. The Lord certainly will not return among those people who he came among 2000 odd years ago. Nothing much has changes. They will deny, persecute, torture, blaspheme and crucify him all over again.

17. However, fact is, the Lord Jesus has been, for the past 2000 odd years, in a full physical human body, in a parallel earth. And people are with the Lord in that heavenly earth, at this time.

18. This is how that is possible: Humans who died as Christians on this earth rise to spirit heaven in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven. They all go this way.

19. However, these Christians are not all the same. And after rising to heaven they do not all go the same way. Some of them, after a short say in spirit heaven, must return to this earth.

20. However some others are reincarnated in perfect physical human bodies and brought forth in that parallel earth where the the Lord Jesus is also in a human physical body. They get to be with the Lord Jesus for all eternity, whether in spirit heaven or on a heavenly parallel earth.

21. After death on this earth, Christians (i.e. the chosen few) routinely end in spirit heaven. Then they go to that paradise, heavenly parallel earth where the Lord Jesus resides in a physically human body. They reincarnate in that parallel earth, in human physical bodies, to live with the physical Lord Jesus.

22. However, this passage is possible only if one becomes entangled with the reality on that paradise, heavenly parallel earth, whiles one lived on this earth. This requires one to have a very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven, whiles one lives on this earth.

23. Then one must perpetually confess the details of this very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven, whiles one lives on this earth, while being open for opportunities to materialize this heaven on earth, whiles one lives on this earth.

24. One must have a very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven. This is so because there are other kinds of heavens in God's creation. Addressing Christians, the Lord Jesus confirmed that 'in my Father's house are many mansions'. I go to make a place for you. The Lord is confirming that He is concerned with only 'one mansion' in God's house. This is the Christian heavenly kingdom.

25. Having and holding the ideas of the law, sin and punishment in hell will not at all cut it. In fact, for spiritually aware people, that is a curse. Being entangle with the law, sin and punishment in hell will not deliver one into a.) God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm or b.) that paradise, heavenly parallel earth which the physically clad, Lord Jesus lives on and rules over.

26. At all events, being entangle with the law, sin and punishment in hell will deliver one into the depths of earth where the law, sin and punishment in hell and Satan, prevails and rules, fiercely.

27. My perception is that, the powers that be, i.e. the Lord Jesus and God and angels etc., will contain the knowledge in this post, among only the chosen few. At any event that is totally out of my control. I am simply given to post these things which come to me directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth.

28. The 'name of the game' for people on this earth is entanglement. What ever is one's vision here, is one's entanglement. This determines one's next (future) destination. This is not a group thing. This is a precisely individualized thing.

29. Coherent thoughts, physical action and physical verbalizing are strong creators, both for one's present circumstance and one's after death destination.

30. If one preaches the law, sin and punishment in hell, it does not matter that no one listens. Simply esteeming and/or verbally endorsing the law, one has determine one's current destination and one's destination, after death.

31. Such a one will invariably go to a destination where the law, sin and punishment in hell rules supreme. That is inside the earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not reach.

32. Imagination is the thing. What is one's idea of that perfect place? What indeed is that perfect world which the Lord seeks to materialize for each person?

33. How is a person's perfect world to be configured? There are no limits. However because of inherent human infirmities, the best among us would not know what to pray for. One would not know how to configure and/or make a perfect world, even for oneself.

34. However the Spirit of the Lord Jesus can help. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus discerns and knows the purest, most profound and deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each human.

35. And the Spirit of the Lord Jesus configures a world, a parallel earth, in God's creation, for one. This parallel earth conforms perfectly to these purest most profound and deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each human, in perfect harmony with all things in the creation.

36. All that anyone has to do, in order to get to that world or parallel earth, is to search one's own heart or spirit to know what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do and simply do just that.

37. Then one will reach one's own heavenly/'Garden of Eden' paradise, which will perpetually contain all one's treasured and longed for people, treasured and longed for things, treasured and longed for circumstances, treasured and longed for events, treasured and longed for moments and treasured and longed for all . . . on this earth and elsewhere when one dies.

This is the long untold 'story' of Christianity . . . thank you Lord Jesus.

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 21st, 2015, 10:22 PM
Good for you.

Then you have no problem.

Exactly, negating your previous diatribes of nothingness.


So much for your nice sounding and self-praising 'words' which can be easily and simply parroted. Let us focus now, on your actions:

What about your dead family members, friends, relatives and associates? Are they still buried in the earth with their dead physical bodies waiting on the return of the Lord Jesus?

As you claim, you are comfortable. You are translated into the Kingdom of God's. However, what about these other people? Obviously they are not in heaven. They are inside the earth waiting and hoping for the return of the Lord Jesus.

Is it that you fix-up yourself real nice. However you left your dead family members, friends, relatives and associates in the hands of Satan in hell? How come?

What is your story about that?

You seem to believe that when you die you will rise, in three days, to be with the Lord Jesus in heaven. A real good hope. When you die you are hoping to follow the Lord to spirit heaven, in quick time. Is this correct?

If you are translated into the Kingdom of God's, it must be that when you die you are going directly to the kingdom of heaven. You are certainly not going to hell with your unfortunate dead family members, friends, relatives, associates, etc.

Therefore the question arises again, what about your unfortunate dead family members, friends, relatives, associates, etc. Are they in the earth in hell, with Satan? Is this where you sent them? And fix up your self, differently?

Any way, what do you mean by:"I am translated into the Kingdom of God's"? . . . . Did you use a Greek/English dictionary to get there?

It is quite common for people to use fast and loose (ambiguous) terms when they are stating something that is not true. Especially if they do not know what they are talking about. Is this your problem? Are you in over your head? Are you simply parroting terms which someone told you?

How does one become translated into the Kingdom of God's"? Do you go through the front cover of a Greek/English dictionary and come out the back cover translated into the Kingdom of God's"? Is this how you did it? That seems to be lettered discernment which killeth. That cannot be the path through the Spirit which giveth life.

Are you sure that you have been translated into the Kingdom of God's? . . . just asking.

You have no idea what the Gospel is, nor what it means to be translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son.

I've put on Christ and put off the old man. Literally. And no physical bodies have anything to do with that for me or anyone else.

And there is no multi-verse. All contingent potentialities are within the eternal immutable pre-creational mind of God. There is only one creation with one cosmos.

You are deluded and lost without hope or faith.

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 21st, 2015, 10:23 PM
Dialm,

A special message for you. We both deserve this message.

1. Some people believe that the Lord Jesus rose to heaven in a physical body.

Fact is there are many (billions of) parallel earths, where the Lord Jesus and others can go with or without physical bodies.

However, the Lord did rise to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, body. And He is seated (in that body) on the right side of the Holy Spirit. However simultaneously He is currently in a human physical body in one or more parallel earths.

2. In spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit only body, the Lord provides an eternal function. In that Spirit only body, from spirit heaven, the Lord Jesus is able, ready and willing to make intercession, with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each person.

3. However he does this intercession only according to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirating which are the fabric of each person's (pre-birth) spirit.

4. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus makes intercession with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each human. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus does this according to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirating which are the fabric of each person's (pre-birth) spirit.

5. The Lord cannot provide this service to the spiritually dead (who are also called 'the dead'). The dead cannot be in communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The dead must become spiritually aware in order to access and use this guidance which is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

6. To provide this function, the Lord Jesus is the Spirit of Truth. The Spirit of Truth is an impersonal and purely functional existence of the Lord. This Spirit operates through urgings of love. These arise and are sustained, within each person's heart or spirit, for very specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

7. Also these urgings of love arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within the heart or spirit of each human. These urgings of love arises and are sustained totally outside the volition of the individual.

8. Each individual becomes aware for these urgings of love only after they have arisen and are sustained within his own heart or spirit, for those specific people things and circumstances in God's creation. One simply 'awakens' to these urgings of love. These urgings of love simply arise in one's heart, out of their own volition and 'speak' to and strongly direct one.

These urgings of love leads, never follows. These create and sustains one's reality (one's relationships and associations). These are not the kind that arise after one has created one's reality (i.e. after one has created one's relationships and associations).

9. Then in order to be a child of God (i.e. a Christian) one simply obey these urgings of love, unconditionally. One is simply led, unconditionally, into relationships and associations with these specific people, things and circumstances. This delivers one into one's heaven, here on earth and elsewhere.

10. :idea: :idea: However the Lord Jesus has other powers and other simultaneous functions. He can and do function in many ways, perfectly, uninterruptedly and eternally. He can and does leave His Spirit of Truth body in spirit heaven.

11. This Spirit of Truth continues to perfectly and uninterruptedly provide on going and eternal intercession for humans on earth. Simultaneously the Lord take other forms. This enable Him to take many human physical forms (at will) any where and also operate in other ways and also do other things.

12. The Lord can indeed leave his eternally existing form in heaven and be else where. His eternal Spirit of Truth form will simultaneously function perfectly.

13. This is how the Lord was able to come to earth, in a human physical body, 2000 odd years ago. Indeed the Spirit of Truth (the Lord Spirit form) continued to exist and function from spirit heaven, whiles He was on earth in a human physical body.

14. Also the Lord does not have to return to this earth in order to have a human physical body. However he cannot have a physical human body in spirit heaven. He can have a physical human body only on this earth or on a parallel earth.

15. Fact is the Lord Jesus can also currently be in many physical human bodies, similar to the one He had when He physically walked on earth 2000 odd years ago. However he can do that only in parallels physical earths. He cannot and will not do that on this earth, at this time.

16. The Lord certainly will not return among those people who he came among 2000 odd years ago. Nothing much has changes. They will deny, persecute, torture, blaspheme and crucify him all over again.

17. However, fact is, the Lord Jesus has been, for the past 2000 odd years, in a full physical human body, in a parallel earth. And people are with the Lord in that heavenly earth, at this time.

18. This is how that is possible: Humans who died as Christians on this earth rise to spirit heaven in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven. They all go this way.

19. However, these Christians are not all the same. And after rising to heaven they do not all go the same way. Some of them, after a short say in spirit heaven, must return to this earth.

20. However some others are reincarnated in perfect physical human bodies and brought forth in that parallel earth where the the Lord Jesus is also in a human physical body. They get to be with the Lord Jesus for all eternity, whether in spirit heaven or on a heavenly parallel earth.

21. After death on this earth, Christians (i.e. the chosen few) routinely end in spirit heaven. Then they go to that paradise, heavenly parallel earth where the Lord Jesus resides in a physically human body. They reincarnate in that parallel earth, in human physical bodies, to live with the physical Lord Jesus.

22. However, this passage is possible only if one becomes entangled with the reality on that paradise, heavenly parallel earth, whiles one lived on this earth. This requires one to have a very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven, whiles one lives on this earth.

23. Then one must perpetually confess the details of this very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven, whiles one lives on this earth, while being open for opportunities to materialize this heaven on earth, whiles one lives on this earth.

24. One must have a very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven. This is so because there are other kinds of heavens in God's creation. Addressing Christians, the Lord Jesus confirmed that 'in my Father's house are many mansions'. I go to make a place for you. The Lord is confirming that He is concerned with only 'one mansion' in God's house. This is the Christian heavenly kingdom.

25. Having and holding the ideas of the law, sin and punishment in hell will not at all cut it. In fact, for spiritually aware people, that is a curse. Being entangle with the law, sin and punishment in hell will not deliver one into a.) God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm or b.) that paradise, heavenly parallel earth which the physically clad, Lord Jesus lives on and rules over.

26. At all events, being entangle with the law, sin and punishment in hell will deliver one into the depths of earth where the law, sin and punishment in hell and Satan, prevails and rules, fiercely.

27. My perception is that, the powers that be, i.e. the Lord Jesus and God and angels etc., will contain the knowledge in this post, among only the chosen few. At any event that is totally out of my control. I am simply given to post these things which come to me directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth.

28. The 'name of the game' for people on this earth is entanglement. What ever is one's vision here, is one's entanglement. This determines one's next (future) destination. This is not a group thing. This is a precisely individualized thing.

29. Coherent thoughts, physical action and physical verbalizing are strong creators, both for one's present circumstance and one's after death destination.

30. If one preaches the law, sin and punishment in hell, it does not matter that no one listens. Simply esteeming and/or verbally endorsing the law, one has determine one's current destination and one's destination, after death.

31. Such a one will invariably go to a destination where the law, sin and punishment in hell rules supreme. That is inside the earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not reach.

32. Imagination is the thing. What is one's idea of that perfect place? What indeed is that perfect world which the Lord seeks to materialize for each person?

33. How is a person's perfect world to be configured? There are no limits. However because of inherent human infirmities, the best among us would not know what to pray for. One would not know how to configure and/or make a perfect world, even for oneself.

34. However the Spirit of the Lord Jesus can help. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus discerns and knows the purest, most profound and deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each human.

35. And the Spirit of the Lord Jesus configures a world, a parallel earth, in God's creation, for one. This parallel earth conforms perfectly to these purest most profound and deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each human, in perfect harmony with all things in the creation.

36. All that anyone has to do, in order to get to that world or parallel earth, is to search one's own heart or spirit to know what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do and simply do just that.

37. Then one will reach one's own heavenly/'Garden of Eden' paradise, which will perpetually contain all one's treasured and longed for people, treasured and longed for things, treasured and longed for circumstances, treasured and longed for events, treasured and longed for moments and treasured and longed for all . . . on this earth and elsewhere when one dies.

This is the long untold 'story' of Christianity . . . thank you Lord Jesus.

You're a certifiable lunatic, and utterly non-Christian.

freelight
November 21st, 2015, 11:10 PM
You're similar to Freelight and others.


Hi PPS,

Only in some points, but we're quite different in some nuance, terms and contextual overlays. See our dialogue here so far (my last post was unresponded to),...I'm still engaging Guru's anti-law stance, and taking more of a theosophist's view of universal laws. Its all 'relative'.

Otherwise,...Guru's concept of the 'Age of Aquarius' has been inquired of. My 'ditties' with Guru just happen to be when I see some point of interest being sported by him, so I add my own 'gnostic' insights to the batch,...if but for anything to engage a dialogue, knowing that I'll be sure to get a plethora of commentary, probably more than I asked for ;)

Granted that Guru's style can be tediously over-bearing for some (perhaps 'overkill'? :p ), at least be you could try to be kind and courteous in your manners, share your perspective and happily move along instead of leaving a bitter sting or accusation that he be the spawn of satan. Remember Jesus said to love others,...showing love to others proves that you are children of God. Are you expressing love towards Guru? - or just poison darts whose intent is to demean, devalue and degrade him? Love edifies. Love encourages. Love rebuilds. Love enriches. While love may correct, it does so in a constructive manner, not "destructive". As Jesus said, be careful of what 'spirit' ye are of. "By this shall all men know you are my disciples, if you show love towards one another". Furthermore and with even more definity, he said "love your enemies". Does Jesus word matter? :idunno:

Christianity as a world-religion only make up around 1/3 of the population of our planet (statistically speaking),...so that leaves a lot of wiggle room for us more eclectic folks and those of different religious cultures and traditions, so those who think they have a 'monopoly' on 'truth' or 'God' (define Deity as you wish) might want to think twice.

I think Madame Blavatsky says it well with her satirical letter to the archbishop of Cantebury here (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4496132&postcount=76) (specific link the last one posted)...as it pretends to be from 'Lucifer' ;)

No one person or religious cult-ure has a monopoly on
'God',...since 'God' is that Great Central Sun from which all rays of light shine, express in their various forms and colours, and reintegrate back into that Original source from which they spring. 'God' is the substance, consciousness and life within all, and without all.....the Omnipresent ONE. 'God' is the One and Only Reality.

PneumaPsucheSoma
November 22nd, 2015, 12:28 AM
Hi PPS,

Only in some points, but we're quite different in some nuance, terms and contextual overlays. See our dialogue here so far (my last post was unresponded to),...I'm still engaging Guru's anti-law stance, and taking more of a theosophist's view of universal laws. Its all 'relative'.

Otherwise,...Guru's concept of the 'Age of Aquarius' has been inquired of. My 'ditties' with Guru just happen to be when I see some point of interest being sported by him, so I add my own 'gnostic' insights to the batch,...if but for anything to engage a dialogue, knowing that I'll be sure to get a plethora of commentary, probably more than I asked for ;)

Granted that Guru's style can be tediously over-bearing for some (perhaps 'overkill'? :p ), at least be you could try to be kind and courteous in your manners, share your perspective and happily move along instead of leaving a bitter sting or accusation that he be the spawn of satan. Remember Jesus said to love others,...showing love to others proves that you are children of God. Are you expressing love towards Guru? - or just poison darts whose intent is to demean, devalue and degrade him? Love edifies. Love encourages. Love rebuilds. Love enriches. While love may correct, it does so in a constructive manner, not "destructive". As Jesus said, be careful of what 'spirit' ye are of. "By this shall all men know you are my disciples, if you show love towards one another". Furthermore and with even more definity, he said "love your enemies". Does Jesus word matter? :idunno:

Christianity as a world-religion only make up around 1/3 of the population of our planet (statistically speaking),...so that leaves a lot of wiggle room for us more eclectic folks and those of different religious cultures and traditions, so those who think they have a 'monopoly' on 'truth' or 'God' (define Deity as you wish) might want to think twice.

I think Madame Blavatsky says it well with her satirical letter to the archbishop of Cantebury here (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4496132&postcount=76) (specific link the last one posted)...as it pretends to be from 'Lucifer' ;)

No one person or religious cult-ure has a monopoly on
'God',...since 'God' is that Great Central Sun from which all rays of light shine, express in their various forms and colours, and reintegrate back into that Original source from which they spring. 'God' is the substance, consciousness and life within all, and without all.....the Omnipresent ONE. 'God' is the One and Only Reality.

If you knew the extensive lexical definitions and applications for agape (love) and what it means to echo (have) that love, which is makrothumeo (longsuffering) and chresteuomai (kind), and not zeloo (envious) or physioo (puffed up); you'd know that I have love and am being forebearing and kind without being envious or puffed up.

I've demonstrated nothing but agape in being kind, even though I've also demonstrated appropriate agathosune.

The Christian God is the only God, and your false gods do not exist. Blavatsky was a wacko old bat.

You do not get to validly employ your attempts at Syncretism to the Christian Faith.

I nailed all your Jell-O to the wall some time ago. You're as deluded as you've always been.

Gurucam should remove his status as Christian. He is not.

Lazy afternoon
November 22nd, 2015, 12:55 AM
Dialm,

A special message for you. We both deserve this message.

1. Some people believe that the Lord Jesus rose to heaven in a physical body.

Fact is there are many (billions of) parallel earths, where the Lord Jesus and others can go with or without physical bodies.

However, the Lord did rise to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, eternal and 'not seen', Son of God, body. And He is seated (in that body) on the right side of the Holy Spirit. However simultaneously He is currently in a human physical body in one or more parallel earths.

2. In spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit only body, the Lord provides an eternal function. In that Spirit only body, from spirit heaven, the Lord Jesus is able, ready and willing to make intercession, with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each person.

3. However he does this intercession only according to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirating which are the fabric of each person's (pre-birth) spirit.

4. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus makes intercession with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each human. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus does this according to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirating which are the fabric of each person's (pre-birth) spirit.

5. The Lord cannot provide this service to the spiritually dead (who are also called 'the dead'). The dead cannot be in communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The dead must become spiritually aware in order to access and use this guidance which is through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

6. To provide this function, the Lord Jesus is the Spirit of Truth. The Spirit of Truth is an impersonal and purely functional existence of the Lord. This Spirit operates through urgings of love. These arise and are sustained, within each person's heart or spirit, for very specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

7. Also these urgings of love arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within the heart or spirit of each human. These urgings of love arises and are sustained totally outside the volition of the individual.

8. Each individual becomes aware for these urgings of love only after they have arisen and are sustained within his own heart or spirit, for those specific people things and circumstances in God's creation. One simply 'awakens' to these urgings of love. These urgings of love simply arise in one's heart, out of their own volition and 'speak' to and strongly direct one.

These urgings of love leads, never follows. These create and sustains one's reality (one's relationships and associations). These are not the kind that arise after one has created one's reality (i.e. after one has created one's relationships and associations).

9. Then in order to be a child of God (i.e. a Christian) one simply obey these urgings of love, unconditionally. One is simply led, unconditionally, into relationships and associations with these specific people, things and circumstances. This delivers one into one's heaven, here on earth and elsewhere.

10. :idea: :idea: However the Lord Jesus has other powers and other simultaneous functions. He can and do function in many ways, perfectly, uninterruptedly and eternally. He can and does leave His Spirit of Truth body in spirit heaven.

11. This Spirit of Truth continues to perfectly and uninterruptedly provide on going and eternal intercession for humans on earth. Simultaneously the Lord take other forms. This enable Him to take many human physical forms (at will) any where and also operate in other ways and also do other things.

12. The Lord can indeed leave his eternally existing form in heaven and be else where. His eternal Spirit of Truth form will simultaneously function perfectly.

13. This is how the Lord was able to come to earth, in a human physical body, 2000 odd years ago. Indeed the Spirit of Truth (the Lord Spirit form) continued to exist and function from spirit heaven, whiles He was on earth in a human physical body.

14. Also the Lord does not have to return to this earth in order to have a human physical body. However he cannot have a physical human body in spirit heaven. He can have a physical human body only on this earth or on a parallel earth.

15. Fact is the Lord Jesus can also currently be in many physical human bodies, similar to the one He had when He physically walked on earth 2000 odd years ago. However he can do that only in parallels physical earths. He cannot and will not do that on this earth, at this time.

16. The Lord certainly will not return among those people who he came among 2000 odd years ago. Nothing much has changes. They will deny, persecute, torture, blaspheme and crucify him all over again.

17. However, fact is, the Lord Jesus has been, for the past 2000 odd years, in a full physical human body, in a parallel earth. And people are with the Lord in that heavenly earth, at this time.

18. This is how that is possible: Humans who died as Christians on this earth rise to spirit heaven in three days (like the Lord Jesus) to be like angels in heaven. They all go this way.

19. However, these Christians are not all the same. And after rising to heaven they do not all go the same way. Some of them, after a short say in spirit heaven, must return to this earth.

20. However some others are reincarnated in perfect physical human bodies and brought forth in that parallel earth where the the Lord Jesus is also in a human physical body. They get to be with the Lord Jesus for all eternity, whether in spirit heaven or on a heavenly parallel earth.

21. After death on this earth, Christians (i.e. the chosen few) routinely end in spirit heaven. Then they go to that paradise, heavenly parallel earth where the Lord Jesus resides in a physically human body. They reincarnate in that parallel earth, in human physical bodies, to live with the physical Lord Jesus.

22. However, this passage is possible only if one becomes entangled with the reality on that paradise, heavenly parallel earth, whiles one lived on this earth. This requires one to have a very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven, whiles one lives on this earth.

23. Then one must perpetually confess the details of this very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven, whiles one lives on this earth, while being open for opportunities to materialize this heaven on earth, whiles one lives on this earth.

24. One must have a very clear and accurate perception of God's Christian style, earthly kingdom of heaven. This is so because there are other kinds of heavens in God's creation. Addressing Christians, the Lord Jesus confirmed that 'in my Father's house are many mansions'. I go to make a place for you. The Lord is confirming that He is concerned with only 'one mansion' in God's house. This is the Christian heavenly kingdom.

25. Having and holding the ideas of the law, sin and punishment in hell will not at all cut it. In fact, for spiritually aware people, that is a curse. Being entangle with the law, sin and punishment in hell will not deliver one into a.) God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm or b.) that paradise, heavenly parallel earth which the physically clad, Lord Jesus lives on and rules over.

26. At all events, being entangle with the law, sin and punishment in hell will deliver one into the depths of earth where the law, sin and punishment in hell and Satan, prevails and rules, fiercely.

27. My perception is that, the powers that be, i.e. the Lord Jesus and God and angels etc., will contain the knowledge in this post, among only the chosen few. At any event that is totally out of my control. I am simply given to post these things which come to me directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth.

28. The 'name of the game' for people on this earth is entanglement. What ever is one's vision here, is one's entanglement. This determines one's next (future) destination. This is not a group thing. This is a precisely individualized thing.

29. Coherent thoughts, physical action and physical verbalizing are strong creators, both for one's present circumstance and one's after death destination.

30. If one preaches the law, sin and punishment in hell, it does not matter that no one listens. Simply esteeming and/or verbally endorsing the law, one has determine one's current destination and one's destination, after death.

31. Such a one will invariably go to a destination where the law, sin and punishment in hell rules supreme. That is inside the earth where the light of the sun, the moon and the stars do not reach.

32. Imagination is the thing. What is one's idea of that perfect place? What indeed is that perfect world which the Lord seeks to materialize for each person?

33. How is a person's perfect world to be configured? There are no limits. However because of inherent human infirmities, the best among us would not know what to pray for. One would not know how to configure and/or make a perfect world, even for oneself.

34. However the Spirit of the Lord Jesus can help. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus discerns and knows the purest, most profound and deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each human.

35. And the Spirit of the Lord Jesus configures a world, a parallel earth, in God's creation, for one. This parallel earth conforms perfectly to these purest most profound and deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of each human, in perfect harmony with all things in the creation.

36. All that anyone has to do, in order to get to that world or parallel earth, is to search one's own heart or spirit to know what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to do and simply do just that.

37. Then one will reach one's own heavenly/'Garden of Eden' paradise, which will perpetually contain all one's treasured and longed for people, treasured and longed for things, treasured and longed for circumstances, treasured and longed for events, treasured and longed for moments and treasured and longed for all . . . on this earth and elsewhere when one dies.

This is the long untold 'story' of Christianity . . . thank you Lord Jesus.

Are you not the guy who teaches one should divorce your wife if she is not your soul mate, contrary to the instructions of Paul?

1Co 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

LA

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 01:45 AM
Dialm, I am not sure that you read this. I added it to post # 179, long after I first wrote it. This is seriously relevant and critically important.


:idea:Romans: 8 KJV N.T
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

:idea:Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Acts: 13 kjv n.t.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Literally and clearly from the KJV N.T.:

Note that: many are called, but few are chosen and whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

What then is this justification?

Here it is: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Dialm, all who are called to be Christians are justified to do all things which they were not justified to do under the law of Moses. And they are also glorified.

A justification is clearly a more powerful entitlement than simply a liberty. A justification is right with vengeance. A justification is not simply a liberty. It is liberty under enforceable entitlement.

This particular justification is a God given and God supported liberty or right to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

In this case, if a person (say a spying unaware false brethren) prevents or even seek to prevent, one who is called to be Christian, from having the liberty to transgress the law of Moses, that unaware person will receive the very serious wrath of God.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Those who in the least way try to put and/or succeed in putting, aspiring Christians under the slightest use of the Ten Commandment are doomed. They are in grave sin.

The sad fact is that many misguided and foolish people believe that they are serving God by trying to put and/or succeed in putting, aspiring Christians under the Ten Commandment. These people are defying God. They are evil people. They are most unfortunate.

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 01:59 AM
Are you not 'the guy who teaches one should divorce your wife if she is not your soul mate, contrary to the instructions of Paul?'

1Co 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

LA

No. I am not the guy who teaches one should divorce your wife if she is not your soul mate, period.

The following says so:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.

1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God (children of God, like Isaac) .

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. (children of the flesh, like Ishmael)

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Now, I expect to hear all kind of antics and 'lemon used car sales man approaches' by people who seek to deny the clear words: 'ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ';"that ye should be married to another"

How can one "be married to another" if one does not divorce one's first wife? Is he to keep his first wife and also marry another"?

The instruction is now that you are no longer under the law, you should marry another person according to urgings of spirit. You must do this so that you will stop bringing forth 'fruits onto dead' and start bring forth 'fruits onto God'.

Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 of the KJV N.T. all relate to marriage and fruits of marriage. In marriages, 'fruits onto dead' are 'children of the flesh' like Ishmael and 'fruits onto God' are 'children of God', like Isaac.

Those who are under the law invariably bring forth only children of the flesh. Those who ignore and transgress the law so as to be led by spirit always bring forth only children of God. Don't you want to stop bring forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth children of God. Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 of the KJV N.T. reveals that secrete or mystery.

:idea: The Lord Jesus left two instructions:
Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1.) Follow me; and 2.) let the dead bury their dead.
Clearly the instructions which you quoted is for 'the dead who bury their dead'. And the different instructions in Romans: 7 verses 1 to 6 (which I quoted) is for one who has just become spiritually aware (no longer the dead) and called to be Christian (called to follow the Lord Jesus).

Paul was a man for all seasons. He delivered to the dead who bury their dead and he also delivered to those who follow the Lord Jesus. These were different kinds of people. Therefore Paul was given to deliver different instruction to each set of people.

The Lord Jesus confirmed that there were two kinds of people. There were "'the dead' who bury their dead" and there were those who followed the Lord Jesus. These were different sets of people. They needed and got different guide lines.

Both the Lord Jesus and Paul were given to deliver to both sets. However Peter was given to deliver only to 'the dead'.
Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Therefore Paul will be found delivering two different sets of instruction. You seem to delight in the set that is for 'the dead who bury their dead'.

Under that choice, all you will do is bring forth only 'children of the flesh'. You will not bring forth any 'children of God'.

The Christian instruction is very clear. If you want to bring forth only 'children of God', then always transgress the law, if necessary, so that you could have procreative sex with only someone who you are drawn to by spirit (i.e. by urgings of love). Formal marriage does not matter.

The law, sin, punishment in hell and formal marriages are only for 'the dead' who bury their dead.

Procreating unions among Christians are forged only by spirit which are urgings of love. And aspiring Christians and Christians are instructed by the Lord Jesus to ignore and/or transgress the law, sin, punishment in hell and past formal marriages, in order to be led by and/or serve in, the newness of spirit. When one can and do obey this instruction, one is glorified by God.

:idea: :idea: Lazy afternoon, the afternoon has passed. Morning has dawned. The light of the Sun is shining through. Truth is at your door step. It is time to act. It is time to be an authentic Christian. It is time to totally drop the law, sin, punishment in hell and your old (law and lust based) marriage and be led by spirit/love, unconditionally.

1. The law, sin, punishment in hell were your guide and rules when you were 'the dead', i.e. when you were only in the flesh and knew only lust. As 'the dead' you would not be aware of spirit and love. Your sex would result only from lust. Then in order to manage your lust, you were held in a formal marriage that was regulated by the law, sin and punishment in hell.

2. If you become spiritually aware (i.e. if you are no longer 'the dead') you would be awaken to spirit and love's urgings. You will not want to have sex without accompanying love for a procreating partner. So you would not need the law, sin and punishment in hell to regulate and manage your lust. Simply awakening to spirit/love will make you a new and different person.

Now you can and will have sex with various partners. However your sexual act will always be out of an expression of spirit/love. And that will always be a very divine thing.

You would not want anything, including the law, sin and punishment in hell, to prevent you from having sex as an expression of love. You will know that having sex as an expression of love between couples is an especially divine thing. Because God is Love. God participates in love motivated sex.

This is why, love motivated procreative sex bring forth only children of God. And, at all events, one is glorified by God for having love motivated sex and bring forth only 'children of God'.

On the other hand, God is totally absent in procreative sex which is done by those who are upholding the law of sin. God does not endorse this kind of sex. Only children of the flesh are brought forth in such sexual procreative acts.

Lazy afternoon, You want to stop bring forth children of the flesh and start bring forth only children of God. This is possibly only if you routinely transgress the law so as to be led by spirit/love unconditionally.

For this reason one who can be and is, led by spirit/love is very special. He is a child of God and under grace of God. He has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. He is a Christian. He enters and live in God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in heaven elsewhere. God is for him and no one can touch him (no one can succeed against him).

1 John: 4 KJV N.T.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Love is literally God. Urgings of Love is the Spirit of God, the Holy Ghost.

If love urges a Christian (a child of God) to form a new union, then he simply do so. If this requires him to walk away from a existing union, then he simply do so. This is the only way to remain saved and delivered, under grace of God, a Christian and a child of God.

If love is absent or has waned in any union, God is absent and one must walk away from such a union. Such is a sinful union for spiritually aware people. Spiritually aware people are those who can be led by spirit and/or love.

Of course the rules are different for those who cannot be led by spirit/love. They are the spiritually dead (the dead), They must be held under the law, sin and punishment in hell. Even their marriages must conform to the law, sin and punishment in hell.

1Cor 7:10 to 14 (which you quoted) are solely for the dead.

Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 (which I quoted) are solely for the spiritually aware.

For now they must exist side by side one for the dead the other for the spiritually aware.

freelight
November 22nd, 2015, 02:02 AM
If you knew the extensive lexical definitions and applications for agape (love) and what it means to echo (have) that love, which is makrothumeo (longsuffering) and chresteuomai (kind), and not zeloo (envious) or physioo (puffed up); you'd know that I have love and am being forebearing and kind without being envious or puffed up.

I've demonstrated nothing but agape in being kind, even though I've also demonstrated appropriate agathosune.

The Christian God is the only God, and your false gods do not exist. Blavatsky was a wacko old bat.

You do not get to validly employ your attempts at Syncretism to the Christian Faith.

I nailed all your Jell-O to the wall some time ago. You're as deluded as you've always been.

Gurucam should remove his status as Christian. He is not.

That's your belief and opinion ;) - Not all have the same definition of 'Christian', so its pretty 'relative'...and you could just as well argue that with other so called 'Christians'. Depends on who you ask. As far as a 'Christian God',....well,...that's one 'version' among others, since more than one conception of 'Deity' exists, as well as forms, personifications and caricatures of 'God'.

If you claim to love, then let that love speak for itself, for love does not demean, degrade or belittle. Love does no harm, neither does it grieve another persons heart or spirit. If you would express the Spirit of Christ, then couldn't you do so without being condescending? Do you practice loving your enemies as Jesus taught?

Lazy afternoon
November 22nd, 2015, 03:08 AM
No I am not the guy who teaches one should divorce your wife if she is not your soul mate, period.

The following says so:

Now, I expect to hear all kind of antics and 'lemon used car sales man approaches' by people who seek to deny the clear words: 'ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ';"that ye should be married to another"

How can one "be married to another" if one does not divorce one's first wife? Is he to keep his first wife and also marry another"?

The instruction is now that you are no longer under the law, you should marry another person according to urgings of spirit. You must do this so that you will stop bringing forth 'fruits onto dead' and start bring forth 'fruits onto God'.

This all relates to marriage and fruits of marriage. In marriages, 'fruits onto dead' are 'children of the flesh' like Ishmael and 'fruits onto God' are 'children of God, like Isaac.

Those who are under the law invariably bring forth only children of the flesh. Those who ignore and transgress the law so as to be led by spirit always bring forth only children of God. Don't you want to stop bring forth children of the flesh and start bringing forth children of God. Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 of the KJV N.T. reveals that secrete or mystery.

:idea: Clearly the instructions which you quoted is for 'the dead who bury their dead'. And the different instructions in Romans: 7 verses 1 to 6 (which I quoted) is for one who has just become spiritually aware (no longer the dead) and called to be Christian.

Paul was a man for all seasons. He delivered to the dead who bury their dead and he also delivered to those who follow the Lord Jesus. These were different kinds of people. Therefore Paul was given to deliver different instruction to each set of people.

The Lord Jesus confirmed that there were two kinds of people. There were "'the dead' who bury their dead" and there were those who followed the Lord Jesus. These were different sets of people. They needed and got different guide lines.

Both the Lord Jesus and Paul were given to deliver to both sets. However Peter was given to deliver only to 'the dead'.
Therefore Paul will be found delivering two different sets of instruction. You seem to delight in the set that is for 'the dead who bury their dead'.

Under that choice, all you will do is bring forth only 'children of the flesh'. You will not bring forth any 'children of God'.

The Christian instruction is very clear. If you want to bring forth only 'children of God', then always transgress the law, if necessary, so that you could have procreative sex with only someone who you are drawn to by spirit (i.e. by urgings of love). Formal marriage does not matter.

The law, sin, punishment in hell and formal marriages are only for 'the dead' who bury their dead.

Procreating unions among Christians are forged only by spirit which are urgings of love. And aspiring Christians and Christians are instructed by the Lord Jesus to ignore and/or transgress the law, sin, punishment in hell and past formal marriages, in order to be led by and/or serve in, the newness of spirit.

What a joke.

You are double dead.

LA

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 06:59 AM
Dialm,

It is impossible for the likes of Lazy afternoon, who does not realize that Jesus encountered two types of people, to be of help to anyone. He does not realize that the Lord treated these two sets of people differently, by delivering different approaches to God's righteousness to each set.

One set of people was in flesh (they were 'the dead'). The Lord simply reaffirmed the law, sin and punishment in hell for them. They could not get the New Covenant. They were not given to get the New Covenant. This is the 'seen' approach.

The other set were spiritually aware. They were given to get the New Covenant. The Lord introduced righteousness of God that is without the law. This is through, His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. This is the 'not seen' approach.

Big big difference.

Lazy afternoon is applying these covenant any which way. He is a serious menace to anyone who takes him seriously.

Of the people who the Lord Jesus encountered and deliver too:

1.) Only one type were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom. These were the spiritually aware. The Lord gave these mysteries to only these people.

2.) The other type were not given to know the mysterious of God's kingdom of heaven. These were 'the dead' (who bury their dead). The Lord in no way gave these mysteries to this set of people.

However both sets of deliveries (from the Lord Jesus) are mixed-up and recorded in the KJV N.T.

These guys are using the KJV N.T. any which way. They are using any revelations for anyone. They are misguiding themselves and everyone who listens to them.

Fact is only one set of these revelations form the Lord Jesus contains the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Lazy afternoon & Co. do not know that they must separate "the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven" from that other things that is in the KJV N.T.. Far less to have the capacity to make that separation.


Is there any wonder that the Lord Jesus prophesied that:

1.) many (billions) are called and the very great majority are misled by false prophets, resulting in only a few being chosen.

2.) Fact is the Lord Jesus confirmed that people err when they do not know scriptures.

3.) He also confirmed that many false prophets will come in His name and misguide many.

4.) He also confirmed that many are called and few chosen.

5.) He also confirmed that strait is the gate and narrow the way that leadeth to life and few be those that fine it.
Clearly Lazy afternoon is doing his part to make sure that all the above are correct.

Matthew 13 King James Version (KJV)

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

If some people are not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, the Lord Jesus would not give these mysteries to them. At best he would bluff them, especially to appease them and to keep the peace. If they are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven then it is very pointless to give these mysteries to them.

(Fact is, one must be spiritually aware in order to be given to know these mysteries. The Lord Jesus confirmed that these masses (who got parables) were not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven because: they did not have the' eyes to see' the 'ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'. Their hearts were waxed gross. This meant that they were spiritually dead or 'the dead')

Everyone who the Lord encountered, except his disciples, were in this sad state. These were the masses who the Lord delivered to in public. And indeed the Lord gave parables to these masses who were not given by God to know the mysteries of God's Kingdom of heaven.

It is important to note that the Lord would not hide the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, in these parables. To do that would be to have the intent to give these mysteries to them and so violate the fact that they were not given by God to know these mysteries.

Therefore these parable were nothing more than distractions. These parables were given to fool and appease these masses of people, for they wanted something from the Lord, although He was not at liberty to given them the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These parables would not in any way contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These people were simply not given by God to know these mysteries. Therefore the Lord Jesus would not in any way violate that and some how hide these mysteries in parable.

Billion of misguided people, like Lazy afternoon, seem totally unaware of the above. They are unaware of the above natural separation between (truth and parables) revelations in the KJV N.T. They are using the KJV N.T. willy-nilly. They unwittingly seek the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in parables. In fact they seem to go only for the parables. Then they interpret and reinterpret these parables. Then they come up with comfortable conclusion which they falsely believe to be mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. And the foist these on everyone.

Fact is, all the while, the mysteries of God's kingdom is clearly and literally confirmed (without parable) in other places in the KJV N.T.. These are in those few deliveries which the Lord made in private session among only His disciples.

Lazy afternoon & Co. cannot and do not discern these revelations which contain the pure unadulterated mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in plain, parable-free, literal and free language in the KJV N.T..

These guys seems to delight in parables because this gives them the opportunity to expand and interpret things to suit their own ideas and comfort zone. They do not turn to the literal mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven as they are clearly and plainly recorded in the KJV N.T. in just a few revelations. They like foolishness, i.e. they like that which is foolishness with God.

However these guys, Lazy afternoon and other like them, are posing as authorities of the Christian tradition. Fact is they have left the KJV N.T. and the Lord Jesus behind and gone about their own comfortable righteousness. They are passing out foolishness as Christianity and they seem to have takers.

This is the sad hands into which Christianity has fallen. Indeed this explains why many are called and few chosen, for the past 2000 odd years.

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 11:29 AM
The Lord said:" For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables"

The Lord gave parable to these people because they hath not and the intention of the Lord was to take away what little they had. This was the Lord's intent when he deliver parables to the masses.
1.) When Lord said 'whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance:' He was referring to wealth in heaven. This is spiritual awareness and spiritual gifts. Once one acquires these person they do not loose them. These gifts are eternal wealth. The Lord is confirming that such a person can and will get more spiritual and eternal wealth. He will become more spiritually actualize and more eternally powerful. These are one kind of people. These are the spiritually aware.

2.) On the other hand, when the Lord said 'but whosoever hath not', he is referring to one who has no wealth in heaven. He is referring to one who has no spiritual awareness or spiritual gifts. The Lord said: 'from him shall be taken away even that he hath'

Here the Lord is referring to a person with only material wealth (which may be substantial). The Lord is saying that that wealth is not eternal. The person will eventually be separated from that kind of wealth. He may be a billionaire, when he die he will carry nothing. These are the other kind of people. These are 'the dead'

The point being that spiritual development (like gifts of the Spirit etc,) are carried by one to one's next life. These kinds of wealth are eternal. Any place a person goes after death, he continues to have these gift and he can use these for his survival and comfort, anywhere.

However material wealth is the opposite. A person (who has no spiritual awareness) can and will derive no benefit from this kind of wealth after he dies.

Lazy afternoon
November 22nd, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dialm,

It is impossible for the likes of Lazy afternoon, who does not realize that Jesus encountered two types of people, to be of help to anyone. He does not realize that the Lord treated these two sets of people differently, by delivering different approaches to God's righteousness to each set.

One set of people was in flesh (they were 'the dead'). The Lord simply reaffirmed the law, sin and punishment in hell for them. They could not get the New Covenant. They were not given to get the New Covenant. This is the 'seen' approach.

The other set were spiritually aware. They were given to get the New Covenant. The Lord introduced righteousness of God that is without the law. This is through, His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. This is the 'not seen' approach.

Big big difference.

Lazy afternoon is applying these covenant any which way. He is a serious menace to anyone who takes him seriously.

Of the people who the Lord Jesus encountered and deliver too:

1.) Only one type were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom. These were the spiritually aware. The Lord gave these mysteries to only these people.

2.) The other type were not given to know the mysterious of God's kingdom of heaven. These were 'the dead' (who bury their dead). The Lord in no way gave these mysteries to this set of people.

However both sets of deliveries (from the Lord Jesus) are mixed-up and recorded in the KJV N.T.

These guys are using the KJV N.T. any which way. They are using any revelations for anyone. They are misguiding themselves and everyone who listens to them.

Fact is only one set of these revelations form the Lord Jesus contains the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Lazy afternoon & Co. do not know that they must separate "the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven" from that other things that is in the KJV N.T.. Far less to have the capacity to make that separation.


Clearly Lazy afternoon is doing his part to make sure that all the above are correct.


If some people are not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, the Lord Jesus would not give these mysteries to them. At best he would bluff them, especially to appease them and to keep the peace. If they are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven then it is very pointless to give these mysteries to them.

(Fact is, one must be spiritually aware in order to be given to know these mysteries. The Lord Jesus confirmed that these masses (who got parables) were not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven because: they did not have the' eyes to see' the 'ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'. Their hearts were waxed gross. This meant that they were spiritually dead or 'the dead')

Everyone who the Lord encountered, except his disciples, were in this sad state. These were the masses who the Lord delivered to in public. And indeed the Lord gave parables to these masses who were not given by God to know the mysteries of God's Kingdom of heaven.

It is important to note that the Lord would not hide the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, in these parables. To do that would be to have the intent to give these mysteries to them and so violate the fact that they were not given by God to know these mysteries.

Therefore these parable were nothing more than distractions. These parables were given to fool and appease these masses of people, for they wanted something from the Lord, although He was not at liberty to given them the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These parables would not in any way contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. These people were simply not given by God to know these mysteries. Therefore the Lord Jesus would not in any way violate that and some how hide these mysteries in parable.

Billion of misguided people, like Lazy afternoon, seem totally unaware of the above. They are unaware of the above natural separation between (truth and parables) revelations in the KJV N.T. They are using the KJV N.T. willy-nilly. They unwittingly seek the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in parables. In fact they seem to go only for the parables. Then they interpret and reinterpret these parables. Then they come up with comfortable conclusion which they falsely believe to be mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. And the foist these on everyone.

Fact is, all the while, the mysteries of God's kingdom is clearly and literally confirmed (without parable) in other places in the KJV N.T.. These are in those few deliveries which the Lord made in private session among only His disciples.

Lazy afternoon & Co. cannot and do not discern these revelations which contain the pure unadulterated mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in plain, parable-free, literal and free language in the KJV N.T..

These guys seems to delight in parables because this gives them the opportunity to expand and interpret things to suit their own ideas and comfort zone. They do not turn to the literal mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven as they are clearly and plainly recorded in the KJV N.T. in just a few revelations. They like foolishness, i.e. they like that which is foolishness with God.

However these guys, Lazy afternoon and other like them, are posing as authorities of the Christian tradition. Fact is they have left the KJV N.T. and the Lord Jesus behind and gone about their own comfortable righteousness. They are passing out foolishness as Christianity and they seem to have takers.

This is the sad hands into which Christianity has fallen. Indeed this explains why many are called and few chosen, for the past 2000 odd years.





Gurucam thinks one must divorce a non-spiritual wife and marry another spiritual one in order to produce children of God.

Gurucam teaches the believer can only produce children of the flesh through unholy women.

Obviously he is deceived by his own flesh with the help of his strange god, when he denies the words of God in the Bible--


1Co 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

Gurucam is a spiritualist, not a Christian.

LA

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 10:00 PM
Matthew: 6 KJV N.T.

19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 10:05 PM
Gurucam thinks one must divorce a non-spiritual wife and marry another spiritual one in order to produce children of God.

LA

Because you are not brave enough to deny the KJV N.T. you chose to claim that I says the things that are confirmed in the KJV N.T.

You are bearing false witness on me. You are posturing like a lemon used car sales man.

No. I am not the guy who teaches that 'one should divorce one's non-spiritual wife and marry another spiritual one in order to produce children of God'.

The following revelation in the KJV N.T. says that exact thing in absolute clarity:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.

1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God (children of God, like Isaac) .

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. (children of the flesh, like Ishmael)

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
As expect you are presenting all kind of antics and 'lemon used car sales man approaches' to seek to deny the clear words: 'ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ';"that ye should be married to another"

How can one "be married to another" if one does not divorce one's first wife? Is he to keep his first wife and also marry another"?

The instruction is now that you are no longer under the law, you should marry another person according to urgings of spirit. You must do this so that you will stop bringing forth 'fruits onto dead' and start bring forth 'fruits onto God'.

Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 of the KJV N.T. all relate to marriage and fruits of marriage. In marriages, 'fruits onto dead' are 'children of the flesh' like Ishmael and 'fruits onto God' are 'children of God', like Isaac.

Are you not aware that Abraham had two sins. One was a child of the flesh. The other a child of God.

The above revelation confirms very clearly "when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death."

The above states very clearly that when you were under the law (the Ten Commandments) you brought forth 'fruits onto death', not 'fruits on to God' . . . that is a bad thing.

'Fruits on to death' are 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael. 'Fruits onto God' are 'children of God' like Isaac. 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael persecute 'children of God' like Isaac.

Children of the flesh are 'the dead'. They are a serious menace on earth. Jesus' and God's attitude to them is let the dead bury their dead. The aim of the Lord Jesus and God is have children of God inherit earth without children of the flesh.

Bring forth children of God has nothing to do with being the 'legally married spouse', who is upholding the Ten Commandments.
Very often, one spouse would invoke this 'sanctity of marriage thing' to prop-up a loveless marriages and keep one's spouse trapped. In such union only children of the flesh are brought forth. Like it or not, only bad things are brought forth in such unfortunate unions.

The one you call 'unholy women', could easily be the one your spouse love. And you (the married wife) can be the one who he does not love or no longer love Then his union (sexual or other) with that woman would be divine (very pleasing to God) while his loveless union with you, his married, wife would be demonic.

If he (your husband) wants to please God he has to drop you and his marriage to you and embrace the supposed 'unholy women'. Of course he has to uphold his legal obligation to you and his children. Wake up to truth. Stop invoking the law to keep your husband in a loveless marriage. That is a grave sin. That is blasphemy of the Spirit, Bringing forth fruits onto God, including, bringing forth children of God, has every thing to do with being led into one's procreative sexual act by serving spirit. This means being led into your procreative sexual act by urgings of love. God is love.

So you want to protect your possible 'law based', loveless marriage. That is O.K.

You can continue to live in denial. You have a right to believe what you like.

However do not undermine the truth in the KJV N.T. and so destroy this beautiful and useful knowledge for others.

And stop accusing me of making up things that are clearly and literally confirmed in the KJV N.T., simply because you do not like them.

Gurucam
November 22nd, 2015, 11:17 PM
Gurucam thinks one must divorce a non-spiritual wife and marry another spiritual one in order to produce children of God.
Gurucam teaches the believer can only produce children of the flesh through unholy women.
LA

Very often, one would invoke this 'sanctity of marriage' thing to prop-up one's loveless marriage and keep one's spouse trapped. In such union only children of the flesh are brought forth. Like it or not, only bad things (fruits onto death) are brought forth in such unfortunate unions.

The one you call 'unholy women', could easily be the one your spouse love. And you (the married wife) can be the one who he does not love or no longer love.

Then his union (sexual or other) with that supposed 'unholy women' would be divine (very pleasing to God). He will bring forth only children of God in that love motivated union.

On the other hand, his loveless union and loveless sex, with you, his married wife, would be demonic and bring forth only children of the flesh.

If he (your husband) wants to please God he has to drop you and his marriage to you and embrace the supposed 'unholy women'. Of course he has to uphold his legal obligation to you and his children.

Wake up to truth. Stop invoking the law to keep your husband in a loveless marriage. That is a grave sin. That is denial and blasphemy of the Spirit. God is Love. Urgings of Love is the Holy Ghost.
1 John: 4 KJV N.T.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Are you not aware that for the Lord Jesus there is no 'unholy women' by your definition.

An 'unholy women' is one who invoke social, moral and religious ideals and laws to keep her spiritually aware souse (who loves another) tied to her.

The rule of the Lord Jesus and God is: move over (take aside) sad married wife and give way to your husband's love for another.

God is Love. God/Love and the Lord Jesus does not support any union that is devoid of love. Simultaneously, God absolutely support unions which are created and supported by love.

One's 'married woman' status or 'unholy woman' status does not matter. Not even the formal institution of marriage matters. Love is divine any where it arises and is sustained.

In God's kingdom of heaven Love is simply given to rules supreme, any where and every where.

Don't you know that loveless sex, at all forum, in or out of marriage, is prostitution. Such copulation is motivated by only lust. Even in marriages loveless sex is simply provided in exchange for a material thing.

On the other hand, in or out of marriage, sex that results out of an expression of Love is totally different. It is divine and very pleasing to God.

Some people would have sex with another person only after marriage. That is prostitution, even though it is widely socially, morally and religiously acceptable. That is the way of the spiritually dead (loveless people).

Among spiritually aware people, sex results only freely and happily and only out of an expression of love.

Wake up to truth Lazy afternoon.

Lazy afternoon
November 23rd, 2015, 02:17 AM
by Gurucam--

As expect you are presenting all kind of antics and 'lemon used car sales man approaches' to seek to deny the clear words: 'ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ';"that ye should be married to another"

How can one "be married to another" if one does not divorce one's first wife? Is he to keep his first wife and also marry another"?

The instruction is now that you are no longer under the law, you should marry another person according to urgings of spirit. You must do this so that you will stop bringing forth 'fruits onto dead' and start bring forth 'fruits onto God'.



The verses are saying that the believer is freed from the bondage of the law by the death of Christ so the believer can be married to one who has been raised from the dead that is Jesus Christ.

Nothing to do with divorcing your wife.

You would know that if you were ever joined to Christ but you are not as your view proves that to be the case.

LA

dialm
November 23rd, 2015, 05:41 AM
GrusomeCam,

Was Jesus of Nazerath crucified?

Gurucam
November 24th, 2015, 02:33 AM
The verses are saying that the believer is freed from the bondage of the law by the death of Christ so the believer can be married to one who has been raised from the dead that is Jesus Christ.

Nothing to do with divorcing your wife.

You would know that if you were ever joined to Christ but you are not as your view proves that to be the case.

LA

You misquoted and/or doctored the KJV N.T. revelation to support your point.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

1. When one is told that one should marry another, even "George", it means that one is instructed to marry another person and George is simply one such option.

The aim is not for all women who are believers to stop having sex and stop having children and marry the Lord Jesus. And leave only none believers to continue under the law and bring forth only fruits onto death. That is a sinful proposition and a distortion of scriptures. Only Satan will promote that and only foolish people can be and will be misled.

As far back as 2000 odd years ago, Abraham demonstrated that humans, through normal sexual procreation, are capable of bringing forth fruits onto God/children of God. The best fruits onto God are children of God.

The above revelation is about showing humans how they can bring forth children of God, like Isaac and not bring forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael, through normal sexual procreation. To do so one has to walk away from one's old 'law based' marriage and spouse and form new procreating unions which are determined by spirit or love's urgings.

To undermine the above is to undermine the aim of the Lord Jesus and God who wants to fill the surface of earth with only children of God. Satan has the opposite agenda.

The aim behind marrying another is to stop bringing forth fruits onto dead (including children of the flesh) and start bring forth fruits on to God (including children of God). The aim is to liberate/free one from the law of sin because at all events those under the law bring forth fruits onto death and not any fruits onto God. And that is a bad/evil thing.

The above confirmed that the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. This directly relates to the law of sin and Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 3 KJV N.T., which has to do with marriage, husband, wife and being married to another man and about how that is permitted and not permitted under the law.

However the revelation goes onto to confirm that we can stop bringing forth fruits onto dead, when we serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. When we do this we bring forth fruits onto God.

You ought to know that with respect to procreative sex, 'fruits onto death' are 'children of the flesh' and 'fruits onto God' are 'children of God'.

2. Indeed you ought to know that Abraham had two sons. One was a child of the flesh and the other a child of God.

According to the KJV N.T. the child of God was born to the 'free' woman. He was born after the spirit.

The child of the flesh was born to the bond woman. He was born after the flesh.

It is also confirmed that the child of the flesh persecuted the child of God.

It was also confirmed that the child of the flesh together with his mother will be cast out. They will not inherit together with the child of God.

3. Therefore it is well established that couple through their sexual procreative act, can bring forth either children of the flesh or children of God.

Tradition Christians like you, assume that Abraham got a child of God because he was married to the free woman. This is not so.

The child of God was born after the promise i.e. according to the promise of the spirit and Spirit.

4. Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 3 are clearly about marriage, husband, wife and being married to another man and about how that is permitted and not permitted under the law.

Therefore this revelation is about marriage, husband, wife, leaving one's husband and marrying another man and about how that is permitted and not permitted under the law.

However this revelation is about being freed from those 'marital' obligations which the law of sin imposed. Indeed:

Romans: 7 verse: 5 KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that "when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death".

The above confirms very clearly that persons who are under law bring forth fruits onto death. This is not a good thing.
5.

Romans: 7 KJV.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
The above revelation is very clearly addressed to people who are no longer under the law of sin.

It confirmed that they are delivered (freed) from that the law of sin and also freed from all restrictions with respect to leaving their spouse so as to marry another man as mentioned in Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 3, KJV N.T..

The above revelation also gives the reason why their these people are given these freedom from the law and from all restrictions with respect to leaving their spouse so as to marry another man as mentioned in Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 3, KJV N.T..

They freed from those restrictions because they are instructed to serve in newness of spirit, so that they will stop bring forth fruits on to death and start bring forth only fruits on to God.

Under this instruction, every woman does not have to 'marry' him who is raised from the dead'. That is simply one option.

Under this instruction, there is another option: some women are freed from the law so that they can and must walk away from their old law based unions (under which they brought forth only fruits onto death). They are instructed to do this so as to form new spirit led unions with new men so as to bring forth children of God, the likes of Isaac.

6. Clearly, the instruction which was delivered 2000 odd years ago, was that humans stop bringing forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael and start bring forth children of God, like Issac. This is what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is all about.

Romans: 7 verses: 1 to 6 KJV N.T. reveals the path through which this is possible.

You are simply corrupting that revelation and derailing the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Satan is behind that corruption.

Gurucam
November 25th, 2015, 04:34 AM
Dear Lazy afternoon and other readers,

The instruction to each 'believer' is very clear.

The instruction says, now that you are a 'believer', you must do the follows:

1.) Move away from marital unions under the law of sin and/or other laws. The reason being, in those unions, 'the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death'. Bring forth fruit unto death' is Antichrist and our members (those called to be Christians) must stop doing this 'thing'. They must be guided as follows:

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

2 Corinthians: 5 KJV N.T.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

2.) Then members (those called to be Christians) must be led by spirit and Spirit to form new marital unions. So that they will stop bringing forth fruits onto death and start bring forth only fruits onto God.

3.) The above is the simple and straightforward instruction. The New creature in Christ cannot continue to be the Old creature, period. For the New creature in Christ, all Old things must pass away, to give way to the New.


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There is a very serious consequence for those who deny and undermine the above:

1.) To deny the above is blasphemy of the Spirit . . . the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time, according to KJV N.T. revelations.

2.) Lazy afternoon Billions of aspiring Christians are misled into denying the above. They blaspheme the Spirit.

3.) These billions of aspiring Christians are also misled into burying their dead family members, relatives, friends and others in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus.

4.) Fact is blasphemy of the Spirit is not forgivable at any place or time. This means that the Lord Jesus cannot and will not return to help these unfortunate billions out of the earth.

5.) The above is how Satan operatives were able to recruit people for Satan in the under world.

6.) The Lord Jesus did prophesied that many will be called and few chosen.

7.) Lazy afternoon and similar foolish others make and promote erroneous (Antichrist) ideas which have absolutely fatal consequences. Please do not continue to be caught in their Satanic web.

8.) My posts are truth in the fullness of time. They are given to correct the wide spread corruption that was falsely promoted as Christianity, for the past 2000 odd years. This means that for the past 2000 odd years, billions were called to false Christianity. There was no actual Christianity on earth among these billions.

9.) Now in the fullness of time, my posts provide actual Christianity, i.e. in these last days. Now the last few to Christianity will have it right, not err and be chosen first. This will fulfill Jesus prophesy:

Matthew: 20 KJV N.T.
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Gurucam
November 25th, 2015, 07:52 AM
GrusomeCam,

Was Jesus of Nazerath crucified?

Yes.

However crucifixion has many forms.

Daily, traditional Christians are crucifying the Lord Jesus.

The Lord Jesus is quite literally His words and His teachings. He is quite literally also His Spirit.

To deny and/or blaspheme His words, His teachings and His Spirit is to be guilty of crucifying the Lord Jesus, as real as putting Him to death on the cross.

Traditional Christians consistently and routinely commit the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time, i.e. blasphemy the Holy Ghost. However they get into big argument about lots of other smaller things concerning the Lord Jesus.

Then, based on the above, the physical act of crucifying the Lord, on the cross fades in comparison. It matters not. It is a none issue. Traditional Christians are in far deeper trouble.

For example. Christians were instructed:

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
1.) Do you know any one who calls himself Christian and who has actually and genuinely dropped the law and embraced the Spirit?

2 Corinthians: 5 KJV N.T.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2.) Do you know any one, who call himself Christian, who actually and genuinely did drop all things in his or her Old life that was conformed to the law and start a New life that is conformed to spirit and Spirit?

3.) Do you know any one, who calls himself Christian and who has actually and genuinely also promote that one must drop all things in his or her old life that was conformed to the law and start a New life that is conformed to spirit and Spirit?

One who seeks to be Christian must do all three of the above. Also one who denies the above has also blasphemed the Spirit.

Do you know any one, who calls himself Christian and who has not denied the above? They have all denied the above. They have all denied and blasphemed the Spirit.

How sad and lost they are in 'egoville'.

Traditional Christians are at least a billion strong. They all distort and corrupt the teaching of the Lord to make it fit their various own conceptions of kindness, goodness and fairness. And there are many versions.

They have all gone about their own righteousness. They are not prepared to be and they are not, led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. They all hold their own egos as supreme and they are led by their own egos (their own ideas) and not by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

This is daily denial, persecution and crucifixion of the Lord Jesus.

Again traditional Christians are at least a billion strong. Now if the Lord comes among traditional Christians and literally 'chooses just a few from among them, they will turn into the mob who will attempt to deny, persecute, torture and physically crucify the Lord, all over again. They will certainly take Him to be a false prophet.

They have converted the idea of the authentic Lord Jesus and His authentic teaching to their own idea. Also they have sold those idea, very strongly and firmly to themselves. They expect a Lord Jesus who is conformed to their own making. It is all their own make believe versions. Theirs is not the Lord Jesus, at all.

They have rendered the authentic Lord Jesus and his authentic teachings totally alien to them and theirs. They have gone about their own righteousness. In fact they discern themselves to be very wise in their own right. They not only change the KJV N.T. occasionally, they have rewritten it several times. They now have their own comfortable version.

Now if the Lord Jesus actually comes around and/or among the billion strong traditional Christians and reiterates His original teaching, they will not recognize Him. They will turn on Him and seek to deny, persecute, torture, blaspheme and crucify Him all over again. Why? . . . because they all hold their own made-up ideas of what the Lord Jesus will say and do, and it is all corruption and error.

Indeed many are called but few chosen. The very great majority have gone about their own righteousness. They therefore err and are not chosen. They do not make it.

The Lord will not come among traditional Christians. They have voided all such possibilities. They are not of the Lord Jesus. They do not belong to the Lord Jesus. They belong to Satan. And they know it. Fact is at all events and without cease, they do bury their dead family members, relatives, friends, et all, in the earth, in hell, with Satan to wait indefinitely.

Gurucam
November 25th, 2015, 12:50 PM
Dialm,


John: 14 KJV N.T.
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matthew: 12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The Lord Jesus has three formats, the way, the truth and the life. The first two are eternal. The last one was temporal.:

1.) As 'the way' the Lord Jesus operates in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Format. He is the Spirit of Truth. In this format He makes intercession on behalf of each human (according to things in each of their own spirits) with the Holy Ghost. In this format the Lord is 'the way' through which one comes onto God. God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. One reaches Holy Spirit only through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus by going through one's own spirit. This is the Spirit format of the Lord.

2.) As 'the Truth', the Lord is precisely what His Spirit has in mind for each person to say and do. This is a perfect amalgam of the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations in each person's heart or spirit and the ideas in the Holy Ghost.

He who search his own heart or spirit come to know precisely what the Spirit of the Lord/Spirit of Truth has in mind for for him or her to say and do. In this format the Lord is each person's 'truth'. He is information/ideas made personalized for each person. This is the Soul format of the Lord. The Soul format of the Lord Jesus is His ideas or information format.

3.) As 'the life', the Lord Jesus was the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, who walked on earth. In this format the Lord was a live example of a human in Christ on earth. He demonstrated how a human lives 'the life' in Christ. This is the physical/material format of the Lord.
# 3.) is the least of the Lord's three format. In fact one could blaspheme the Lord in this format and one will be forgiven. This is the format of the Lord which those O.T. people denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and crucified 2000 odd years ago. That act is revenge-able but forgivable.

# 1 and 2.) are higher formats or forms of the Lord Jesus.
No. 1.) is the Lord's Spirit (only) form or format),
No. 2.) is the Lord's ideas or soul (only) format.

For the last 2000 odd years, traditional Christians have been denying, persecuting, torturing, blaspheming and crucifying the Lord Jesus in these (# 1. & 2.) forms. Put another way they have been denying, persecuting, torturing, blaspheming and crucifying the Spirit and Soul, 'not seen', forms of the Lord Jesus. This act is not forgivable at any place or time.

The Lord had one past crucifixion (i.e. as a man) and two on going crucifixions (i.e. a Spirit and a Soul). To which crucifixion, do you refer?

* Fact is the # 3 form of the Lord (the physical form) is also eternal, on a parallel earth. The # 3 form of the Lord is not eternal on this earth. This format was, so far, only temporal on this earth.

Gurucam
November 25th, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dialm,

Do you know any one, who calls himself Christian and who has honestly, actually and fully adopted the following:


Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
None (no traditional Christian) has recognized the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. They have stayed under the law and actively blasphemed the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. They are not Christians. At best they are glorified Jews. They are simply blaspheming Christianity. They are simply pretending to be Christians. Some of them are spies, actively seeking to return authentic Christians into bondage under the law of sin and punishment in hell.

To esteem the law and claim to be Christian is denial and blasphemy of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.

To claim to be Christian and not have dropped the law and embrace the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is denial and blasphemy of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.

This is what traditional Christians do.

Then when others point our their folly they make further denial and blaspheming arguments.

They do not wish to be freed from the law of sin and death through the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. However if another person promotes that approach they attempt to undermine that person's effort.

They are dogs in the manger. They do not want to be freed from the law of sin and death through the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and they do not want anyone else to have that freedom.

They delight in the law, sin and punishment in hell but only if everyone is like them and under the law.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before GodFact is, they and they alone (who esteem the law), are going to be guilty under the law of sin and punishment in hell.

Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Those who sow to the law, sin and punishment in hell, will reap according to the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Those who sow according to the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. They enter God's kingdom of heaven. There is no hell in this latter approach.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Righteousness of God that is without the law is through the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. They are the "believers".

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
As you know when the very great majority of traditional Christians die on earth, they all expect to be and are, buried in the earth, in hell, with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies. They all seem satisfied with their 'sin and hell' end, with Satan, based on their commitment to the Old system.

The Lord Jesus introduced righteousness of God that is without the law. Traditional Christians ignore and thrown this out. The Lord Jesus has benefited them nothing. They have remained Old people. They falsely call themselves 'Christian'. And falsely present themselves to be Christians.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (of the law, sin and punishment in hell):
Once again, from another unrelated revelation in the KJV N.T., this is the instruction for Christians:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter, (so that we will stop bring forth fruits onto death and start bring forth fruits onto God)

Gurucam
November 26th, 2015, 09:01 AM
Dialm,


Romans: 3 KJV N.T.

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Many false prophets who came in Jesus' name have and promote their own idea of what 'believer' are 'justified freely' to do. Please return to the KJV N.T. Here it is declared as clear as light from the sun:

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that 'believe' are justified from all things, from which ye could not be 'justified' by the law of Moses.
Many false prophets who came in Jesus' name are promoting that Christians are under the law. They are false brethren who came among Christians (as spies) to return them to bondage under the law of sin and punishment in hell.
Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (of the law, sin and punishment in hell):

Beware of Lazy afternoon, he is among those false prophets who deny, undermine and blaspheme the mission of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus in favor of the law, sin and punishment in hell. He actively esteems and supports marriages under 'the law, sin and punishment in hell', for all Christians.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans: 4 KJV N.T.
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Sin and punishment in hell came with the law:
Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Sin and punishment in hell left when "righteousness of God that without the law", came through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus":

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
The choice is for each to make.

1.) One can choose the law then one will accrue sin and be punished in hell.

2.) One can choose righteousness of God that is without the law and have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

2000 years ago the Lord Jesus died, as a blood sacrifice, for all past sins. He simultaneously introduced righteousness of God that is without the law. This is through His Spirit.

From that point, 2000 odd years ago and onward-wards, aspiring Christians and Christians were not to continue under the law, sin and punishment in hell. They were to embrace 'righteousness of God that is without the law' which is through His Spirit.

The sad fact is that only the chosen few embrace this New approach.

The very great majority of the billion strong traditional Christians continued under a slightly modified version of the Old system which is anchored on the law, sin and punishment in hell. They stumble at that stumbling stone. They err and were not chosen.

This is exactly what the Old Jews sought to do to the Lord's New message, 2000 odd years ago. 2000 odd years ago, these Old Jews denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus.

Jews, Peter & Co and others who esteem the Old law based system seemed to be the false brethren who came in as spies among Christians and return them (Christians) to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell. They seemed to have succeeded among the very great majority of those called to be Christians.

Those who continue to esteem the law, sin and punish in hell benefited nothing from the Lord Jesus. In fact they remained under the Old system and will accrue sin and be sent for punishment in hell, inside the earth with Satan. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus will ensure this punishment.


John: 16 KJV N.T.
8 And when he (the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus) is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
The Spirit of Truth came among those people immediately after the crucifixion and rising to heaven, of the Lord Jesus.

The above revelation confirms that from among those people, "reprove" of those who do not believe the the Lord Jesus, started 2000 odd years ago and continued to this day. This is being done by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Gurucam
November 26th, 2015, 11:16 AM
Dialm,

To all readers:


Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
The revelations says: "who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit".

This does not mean that one will not do the things of the flesh. It means that one will be led to do all the things of the flesh (sex and all) but only by the urging of spirit.

1.) One can be led to do the things of the flesh solely by urging of the flesh.

2.) One can be led to do the things of the flesh by urging of spirit.

Some people have no choice they cannot rise above 1.). These are 'the dead'.

Other can operate according to 2.). These are the spiritually aware.

'The dead' are so called because they are dead to their spirit. They are also called 'the unawares', because they are not aware of their spirits. They are also described as not having 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'. They are also described as having heart that are 'waxed gross'.

'The dead' are also described as having a veil over their hearts. They are also described as 'children of the flesh' and Satan. Being dead to their own spirits 'the dead' cannot have communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus can be reached only through one's own heart or spirit. Therefore 'the dead' have no choice they can be led only by their flesh.

In order to control and manage the behavior of the spiritually dead, the law, sin and punishment in hell was given as their schoolmaster. The law is their school master until they become spiritually aware. However when the spiritually dead becomes spiritually aware they must drop the law, sin and punishment in hell.

The instruction to the spiritually aware is very clear. They must drop the law and walk after the spirit.

Walking after the spirit means living according to the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. This means that one must be led into one's works (i.e. one's flesh or other actions) by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to say and do as discerned with one's own spirit.

And since these people are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, as discerned in the above manner, they are not under the law. They have God given freedom. liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. They are under grace of God. They are children of God and Christians. They are also saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and elsewhere.

The Spirit of the Lord Jesus a perfect amalgam of 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of one's one spirit and 2.) the will of God. God is love therefore the will of God are urgings of love. This means that the essential fabric of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are urgings of love.

You guys do not want to miss the above which is the essential fabric of the New Testament as recorded clearly in the KJV N.T.

Lazy afternoon
November 26th, 2015, 04:16 PM
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Beware of Lazy afternoon, he is among those false prophets who deny, undermine and blaspheme the mission of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus in favor of the law, sin and punishment in hell. He actively esteems and supports marriages under 'the law, sin and punishment in hell', for all Christians.

Typical of all lying Satanists as yourself.

LA

Gurucam
November 26th, 2015, 04:22 PM
Typical of all lying Satanists as yourself.

LA

If you do not deny, undermine and blaspheme the mission of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus in favor of the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Then you are o.k.

For the Lord did say that one cannot esteem and/or be under, the law, sin and punishment in hell and also be led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Some people like the convenience of the law, sin and punishment in hell (i.e. they invoke and use the law, sin and punishment in hell conveniently) and simultaneously claim that they led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Some people, 'Hide With the Sheep and Hunt With the Hairs'. Certainly that is not you.

The law is no longer your schoolmaster. You are 'overs' (done with) that. You are now 'in Christ'. Not so?

You and your family members are 'believers', therefore you all (i.e. all of you), have God given justification to transgress the law of sin (Moses' law), right?

You do not pull out and quote the law, sin and punishment in hell, to keep your spouse (and others) 'in line' according to your liking? Do you?

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
The revelation says, all that believe. Do you make your spouse an exception to
all that believe? Do you keep your spouse under the law of sin and punishment in hell, so that you can be comfortable?

Do you deny your spouse that which the Lord Jesus died to let all humans, who believe, have?

Fact is: if the Spirit of the Lord lead a Christian to stay with his or her spouse he or she stays.

If on the other hand the Spirit of the Lord lead a Christian to leave his or her current mate and to be with another mate, well he or she does that instead. A Christian simply obeys. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus always know what is best.

A Christian always obeys the Spirit of the Lord, unconditionally. A Christian recognizes that he or she has infirmities and therefore he or she would not not know what to say and do. However a Christian recognizes that Spirit of the Lord knows what he or she must say and do.

Humans may not agree with the instructions of the Spirit of the Lord. Christian are those who simply obey the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, unconditionally.

The Spirit of the Lord always knows what is right. It could be that in one's current union, only children of the flesh are being brought forth. And this is not pleasing to God. Therefore the Spirit of the Lord is separating one from that old union and guiding one into a new union in which he or she will bring forth only children of God.

Humans tend to believe that they own other humans. Humans tend to believe that they own their spouses. May be that is so under the O.T. system. It is different under the N.T.

It is different for those in Christ. Fact is God owns Christians, for they are children of God. God through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus micro manages the individual lives of His children. From who are their mates to how long one will be with a mate.

Fact is, when passionate love has waned from a union, only children of the flesh are brought forth in that union. This is not at all pleasing to God.

God operating through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus will put an instant stop to that union. In Christianity it is time to dissolve that union and form a new one that is anchored on new and passionate urgings of love. Then one will continue to bring forth only children of God and all other fruits onto God.

This is the high standard and high expectations from those who are called to God's purpose, i.e. those who are in Christ.

At any event, God's purpose for the ordinary Christian is never as extreme as God's purpose for the physical 'seen' and temporal son of man Lord Jesus.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose.
Being led by the Spirit of the Lord, unconditionally, is not at all difficult for an authentic Christian.

It is all about following urgings of love which have arisen and are sustained, naturally and spontaneously, in one's own heart or spirit, for new specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation. This can lead only to bliss and blissful fulfillment.

The Spirit of the Lord are unrgings of love which arises and are sustained naturally and spontaneously within one's own heart or spirit, for specific people thing and circumstances in God's creation.

When it is time to move on to a new union, new urgings of love arises and are sustained for new specific people thing and circumstances in God's creation. To remain under grace of God and a child of God, one must simply form new association and relationships with these new specific people thing and circumstances in God's creation. This defines one's mission in the body of Christ.

This is precisely how the Spirit of the Lord guides a Christian. To attempt to derail or derail one from unconditionally obeying the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is to derail one from one's mission in the body of Christ. This is Satanic.

In fact Peter was clearly identified to be Satan, by the Lord Jesus, when he attempted to derail the Lord from His mission in the body of Christ.

This is the seriousness (Satan-ness) of invoking the law, sin and punishment in hell on one's spouse so as to keep him locked in an old union, when he or she is urged by the Spirit of the Lord to move on to a new union.

Among Christians when passionate love has waned in one's union it means that God has abandon that union. (God is Love.) It is also time for a Christian (a child of God) to abandon that union. It is time to walk away from that union and form new ones according to new passionate love. Christians are children of God. They are led by the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God are urgings of Love.

When humans uphold loveless unions, they are acting through their man or Satanic side. God has no part in such unions. Even if those loveless unions are according to the Ten Commandments, they are totally devoid of God.

If I do not confirm these truths, from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, who would?

RBBI
November 26th, 2015, 08:11 PM
I think you have serious mental problems and need to see a professional immediately. I urge you to seek out a qualified mental health professional in whatever location you are in. Some of it may be chemical imbalances and you need to be tested. Best wishes to you. Peace

Gurucam
November 27th, 2015, 08:58 AM
I think you have serious mental problems and need to see a professional immediately. I urge you to seek out a qualified mental health professional in whatever location you are in. Some of it may be chemical imbalances and you need to be tested. Best wishes to you. Peace

:idea: :idea: Have a couple inquires about you.

Is RBBI short for Rabbi of the Jewish tradition?

It is reported that: the law of Jewish Rabbis, for those seeking to live in Israel, is as follow:

One must clearly show one's Jewish heritage through some complicated red tape approach (this is the slow track approach) . . . Or totally denounce the Lord Jesus (this is the fast track approach).

That is O.K. for them, in their 'land'. They esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell and they will be dealt with under the law, sin and punishment in hell. Everyone knows where they stand. They are forthright about their approach to life (they are not like Lazy afternoon, who is doing the same thing covertly).

However the approach of the Jews is not acceptable outside of their 'land'. Any one doing that among Christians are false prophets who came in Jesus' name. They are false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (i.e. under the law, sin and punishment in hell)

RBBI, Is this your mission on this forum? Are you a false brethren who came in as a spy to return Christians to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell?

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (i.e. under the law, sin and punishment in hell) :

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Fact is the Jews and their tradition have nothing to do with the Lord Jesus and Christianity. The Jews of Old, denied, persecuted, tortured, blasphemed and actively expedited the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus. The current Jews are no different.

These Jews are the false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (i.e. under the law, sin and punishment in hell) . . . this is the same thing that the Jews of Old sought to do while the Lord walked as a man on earth.

Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing? . . . just asking.

:idea: :idea: On another but related topic:

Seems that Lazy afternoon is far from lazy.

Lazy afternoon is actively "the false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (i.e. under the law, sin and punishment in hell)" . . . don't you agree? Seems that that Lazy afternoon is also doing that unfortunate thing to his or her spouse and children . . . don't you agree?

There is loving persuasion and there is the law, sin and punishment in hell. Loving persuasion is the N.T., Christan way. The law, sin and punishment in hell is the O.T. Jewish way. These are two totally different approaches. Which do you think Lazy afternoon is invoking on his or her spouse, children and other? Did you read Lazy afternoon's posts?

The Lord confirmed very clearly:

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Seems that the Lord is referring to Lazy afternoon's family. Do you think that the Lord came to put a sword of separation between people in Lazy afternoon's household?

Do you thing that the foe of Lazy afternoon's spouse and children, is in their own household? Do you think that this foe is Lazy afternoon?

Is Lazy afternoon using threats and 'fists', to keep her spouse and children under the law, sin and punishment in hell, instead of leaving them to be led by Spirit of the Lord Jesus under righteousness of God that is without the law, sin and punishment in hell?

This is indeed a very serious affair. Think not that I am jesting. I am asking the hard questions, before too late is the cry.

The time to awaken to one's foolish ways is now. And be grateful for being awakened.

Gratitude is another thing that one must actively experience, in order to be saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven.

If you esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell, for what can you be grateful? . . . Can you and will you be grateful for going for punishment in hell ? For, indeed, all who are under the law, sin. That is a dead end.

My post are centered on and promotes, righteousness of God that is with out the law, sin and punishment in hell. Please embrace my posts and be grateful for them.

. . . . And you will be home free with salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom of heaven, very soon.

Do not chastise me and/or call me unsubstantiated names and descriptions, for simply posting the revelations of the Lord Jesus as they clearly and literally appear in the KJV N.T.

It is very clear that the very great majority of the billion strong traditional Christians have been dragged up (not brought up) on false and corrupted versions of Christianity.

Thank God for these post, which are purifying what corruptly passed for Christianity for millenniums. My post are truth (i.e. authentic Christianity) in the fullness of time. Simply get on board with my posts. Then you can be among the last few who actually get truth (i.e. authentic Christianity), in these last days. Then you will not err and you will be chosen first. You will indeed be 'the last who shall be first'. You will be the last among the chosen few.

My work here provides a last chance for a few people in the billion strong traditional Christianity to be saved and chosen for God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and elsewhere.

Matthew: 20 KJV N.T.
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Gurucam
November 27th, 2015, 01:01 PM
Dear, RBBI and Lazy afternoon:


Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

Note that:

1.) Rising to heaven is not the same as rising out of the earth, like Lazarus.

Rising to heaven is for Christians (those who follow the Lord Jesus). Rising out of the earth (like Lazarus) is for 'the dead'. These are directly linked to:

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Rising to heaven is linked to:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1. Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
Mark: 12 verse: 25 of the KJV N.T. is linked to being 'in Christ' when one dies on earth.

When one becomes an actual Christian (not as make believe one) during one's life time, one differs in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is Lord of all). When a Christian dies on earth he or she rises in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like an angel in heaven.

The above is how one follows the Lord Jesus in the 'regeneration'.

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Matthews: 19 KJV N.T.
27 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Following the Lord Jesus is not linked to the dead burying their dead to wait indefinitely on the Lord Jesus to return, as practiced by the billion in traditional Christianity. Following the Lord Jesus is linked to following him in the regeneration. The regeneration is linked to the regeneration of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus when he sank into the earth. Then He rose to spirit heaven in that Spirit body.

At any event, if one wants to follow the Lord Jesus, He is not in the depths of earth which is hell, with Satan. The Lord Jesus is in spirit heaven seated on the right side of the Holy Spirit. If one want to follow the Lord Jesus one must not only do what the Lord did, i.e. rise in three days to be like an angel in heaven. One must also rise in three days to be with the Lord Jesus, who is in spirit heaven.

Traditional Christians (billions), endorse and practice the ideas of being buried in the earth together with one's dead physical body, to wait indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus, who is then, supposed to shout out to one to rise out of the earth, like Lazarus. This is the path which 'the dead' takes. Christians do not take this path.

Christians, when they die on earth, rise in three days, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven. They literally follow the Lord to spirit heaven, in three days, in the same manner as the Lord Himself, went to spirit heaven.

Through which path did you put your dead family members, relatives, friends and others? Through which path are you planing to go?

It is time to face the music of your practice.

John: 14 KJV N.T.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
One cannot be a believer in the Lord Jesus if one does not totally, sincerely and/or other wise believe that a believer is justified to transgress the Ten Commandments.

Also if one who believes in the Lord Jesus cannot 'see' the following:
1.) cannot 'see' oneself differing in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that He is Lord of All) and
2.) cannot 'see' oneself, upon death on earth, rising to spirit heaven, in three days, like the Lord Jesus.

Then how can one perceive that one, who believes in the Lord Jesus, can do the works that Jesus did and also do greater works than the Lord?

How indeed, my foolish one? Is there any wonder left, as to why, many are called and few chosen, from among the billion strong traditional Christians.

You must be honest. I have not given you a few half-baked ideas that is only partially supported by revelations from the KJV N.T. I have provided very many and varied literal revelations from the KJV N.T. which absolutely support my posts.

freelight
November 28th, 2015, 11:28 PM
That is O.K. for them, in their 'land'. They esteem the law, sin and punishment in hell and they will be dealt with under the law, sin and punishment in hell. Everyone knows where they stand. They are forthright about their approach to life (they are not like Lazy afternoon, who is doing the same thing covertly).

One of the problems there is that Jews don't believe in a concept of 'hell' as traditional Christianity has created, but all souls go to 'Sheol', which is the common grave, the underworld. Whether an afterlife exists or a resurrection of some kind varies among different branches within Judaism. There is no 'lake of eternal hellfire' and brimstone, neither necessarily souls being 'eternally tormented' or punished by a deity.


However the approach of the Jews is not acceptable outside of their 'land'. Any one doing that among Christians are false prophets who came in Jesus' name. They are false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage i.e. under the law, sin and punishment in hell

I see you putting your own 'spin' on Pauline terminology, but do NOTE.....that the 'new covenant' is where the Spirit of God is living, inspiring and doing the works of God in and thru us, in our new heart and spirit, so the 'law' is NOT done away with, it is fulfilled in us, because its inner ethic and dynamic is activated in us by God himself. To say the law (universal/eternal laws) are done away with, would be to give license to any kind of 'sin', since there is no longer a 'standard' whereby actions could be judged as 'lawful', or wrong actions to be judged as 'sin' (which is merely a transgression of law).

Remember the term 'Antinomianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism)'? ;) - the word comes from root compound that means "anti law".

We might note that sin by definition is 'trangression' against law. It has consequences, which is death. Obedience to law allows one to be in harmony/concert with the spirit of life, its positive movement, its progressive nature. Anything that transgresses law is 'sin' (it promotes death/disintegration/retardation). The law or 'universal law' is not done away with, nor can it be...since these laws uphold all creation, maintain and govern actions and conditions, whether these foster life or death,....cosmic law remains.

Now when I speak of 'law' here, I do not necessarily mean the compendium of traditional laws given by Moses to the Jews, but any law that is truly a 'law of God/Nature/Cosmos', a universal law, moral and ethical principle, laws that govern all of nature, human relations and so forth. So my definition of 'law' may be more all-inclusive or far-reaching, as described in Theosophy.

Therefore I don't see lumping up 'law, sin, punishment, hell' as necessarily all tied together, since different meanings may apply to these terms and in different contexts. A 'righteous' person is one who abides faithfully to the laws of God/Nature/Cosmos....and what we call 'sin' is some kind of transgression of a particular law. In the 'New Age' of the Spirit,....Spirit inspires and empowers one to keep universal law, to uphold divine laws and live the will of God. Since God is love, love is the supreme law, so its precepts and principles ever hold, so that in love there is no fear, and no sin, since love is the fulfilling of the law. So you see,...it all comes back to universal law, which cannot be abrogated or dismissed.

freelight
November 28th, 2015, 11:37 PM
My post are centered on and promotes, righteousness of God that is with out the law, sin and punishment in hell. Please embrace my posts and be grateful for them.

. . . . And you will be home free with salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom of heaven, very soon.

Do not chastise me and/or call me unsubstantiated names and descriptions, for simply posting the revelations of the Lord Jesus as they clearly and literally appear in the KJV N.T.

It is very clear that the very great majority of the billion strong traditional Christians have been dragged up (not brought up) on false and corrupted versions of Christianity.

Thank God for these post, which are purifying what corruptly passed for Christianity for millenniums. My post are truth (i.e. authentic Christianity) in the fullness of time. Simply get on board with my posts. Then you can be among the last few who actually get truth (i.e. authentic Christianity), in these last days. Then you will not err and you will be chosen first. You will indeed be 'the last who shall be first'. You will be the last among the chosen few.

My work here provides a last chance for a few people in the billion strong traditional Christianity to be saved and chosen for God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and elsewhere.

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A little bit of religious-egoity showing there? ;)

Well,...I guess Paul had a few moments in this category as well.....

dialm
November 29th, 2015, 02:56 AM
Nonsense gurucam

We have broken the law and the law has the right to us. This is the explanation of physical death. You are going to die just like the rest of us because just like the rest of us you have broken the law. That is final.

But Jesus is unique in that He never broke the law. Now the table is turned. The law is the lawbreaker. Now it must die.

dialm
November 29th, 2015, 03:25 AM
But the law cannot die because it is an inanimate object.

Instead

The container that the law has been placed in must die. We must die in order to rid ourselves of the law.

But the problem is that of timing.

We must die before the container dies. If we wait until the container dies then we will be trapped in the dead container with the law for all eternity.

Gurucam
November 29th, 2015, 08:58 AM
One of the problems there is that Jews don't believe in a concept of 'hell' as traditional Christianity has created, but all souls go to 'Sheol', which is the common grave, the underworld. Whether an afterlife exists or a resurrection of some kind varies among different branches within Judaism. There is no 'lake of eternal hellfire' and brimstone, neither necessarily souls being 'eternally tormented' or punished by a deity.



The Christian teaching, is that: any which way, inside the earth is hell.

When a Christian dies, he rises in three days to be like an angel in heaven.

As far as a Christian (i.e. one of the chosen few) is concerned, when one dies, if one does not rise in three days to be like and angel in heaven, one goes to hell, period. There are only three realms: 1.) heaven (freedom in space and time, and traveling to planets), 2.) the surface of earth and 3.) hell (inside earth).

Fact is it seems that hell has different areas. However, for the chosen few Christians it is all hell.

Whether one is together in a common grave or not, if one is inside the earth, one is in hell.

If you do not believe that inside the earth is hell, then you may just have to be refreshed from a personal experience.

It does not matter what the Jews believe, their beliefs are for them.

What matters is what do you believe or better what do you know from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus? Can you confess anything with your heart?

Interplanner
November 29th, 2015, 09:08 AM
Curious takes there, Guru.

Any which way? Are you referring to various places in the earth being hell or various ways of arriving there?

Where do you get the idea that there is a three day point into death when certain things take place? That's about Christ only. For people now, the next moment after death is the time of judgement and being sent on to where that judgement takes you.

Finally, your definition of Christian just lost all ground because you are saying some of them are sent to hell, too.

Gurucam
November 29th, 2015, 09:16 AM
Curious takes there, Guru.

Any which way? Are you referring to various places in the earth being hell or various ways of arriving there?

Where do you get the idea that there is a three day point into death when certain things take place? That's about Christ only. For people now, the next moment after death is the time of judgement and being sent on to where that judgement takes you.

Finally, your definition of Christian just lost all ground because you are saying some of them are sent to hell, too.

I have explained that extensively with scores of backing-up literal revelations from the KJV N.T.
Click here:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113578

Anyway: Are you a Christian? Do you believe that you differ in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, except that He is the Lord of All?

Fact is Christians differs in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, with respect to all things (except that He is Lord of all). When Christians die on earth, they rise in three day, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven. However there have never been more than a few actual Christians. Many were and are called but only a few were or are chosen. Billions do not make it. Billions who believe that they are Christians are not Christians. They have all been misled by false prophets who came in Jesus' name. They err and were not chosen.

Fact is, only a few got and/or knew the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They did not err and only they were chosen. When they died on earth, they were not buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely. When they died on earth they rose, in three days, like the Lord Jesus, to be like angels in heaven.

Only the dead bury their dead counterparts in the earth, with their dead physical bodies, in hell, with Satan, to wait indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus. Some are already in the earth for over 2000 odd years. Fact is the very great majority of the billion strong traditional Christians are the dead who bury their dead.

My posts and threads are about inviting people to follow the Lord Jesus, according to literal and straight revelations from the KJV N.T..

The Lord left the following two choices:

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
There is only one way to follow the Lord Jesus.

1.) One must do as the Lord did. When one dies on earth, one must rise to heaven in three days, as the Lord did. One must follow what the Lord did.

2.) Also to follow the Lord one must literally follow Him to spirit heaven. The Lord went to spirit heaven one has to follow Him to spirit heaven.

1.) and 2.) are how one follows the Lord Jesus.

One cannot be buried, with one's physical body, in the earth, in hell with Satan, to wait indefinitely. This is how 'the dead bury their dead'. This is not how one follows the Lord.

Oh foolish one: Is the Lord Jesus in the earth? Is God's kingdom of heaven in the earth?

The Lord Jesus is in spirit heaven and so is God's kingdom of heaven.

Why would any one believe that being buried inside the earth (for an indefinite stay) has anything to do with God's kingdom of heaven, Jesus and/or heaven?

Some people spent 60 to 70 years (if so much) on the surface of earth and they are already over 2000 odd years in the earth, in hell, with Satan? What kind of exchange is that?

2000 odd years ago, the Lord confirmed very clearly that the God's kingdom of heaven, is close at hand. That is not inside the earth.

Billions of aspiring Christians were misled and suckered by Satan operatives, so as to be recruited for Satan and hell.

Christians differs in no way from the Lord Jesus, except in only one thing, which is, Jesus is Lord of all:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
4 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

John: 14 KJV N.T.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
If one does not believe that one can do things, at least equal to the Lord Jesus Christ, then it is clear that one does not believe in the Lord Jesus. And one is not Christian. Indeed one is a foolish and lost person.

Gurucam
November 29th, 2015, 07:32 PM
Transferred from another thread.


Are you saying Gal 3:23--4:7 does not exist or is not 'accepted'? Even Hebrews says it is about elementary things that were 'types' or 'shadows' not the reality itself.

All verses in the KJV N.T. are literally correct and valid.

However, in order to get a feel for your forthrightness, I asked (in post # 89 not in this thread) that you responded to the following rather simple and straight forward question:

1.) You said: 'You apparently missed the part where Paul tells you that the Law is your "schoolmaster" to lead you to Messiah,'

I responded: Paul said no such thing.

(This a serious challenge. You seem to be making up your own scriptures and falsely ascribing it to Paul and Christianity. Please let us clear up this simple point as an example of your forthrightness. I am on record admitting my mistake and apologizing for same.

Would you at least offer the same by responding to my question properly.)

This a literal quote, from the KJV N.T., of what is ascribed to Paul and Christianity:

Galatians 3 KJV N.T.
24. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

'bring one onto Christ' is a state, not a messiah. This to be 'in Christ' or to be a Christian. This is to be a child of God. This fact is supported (backed-up) by:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
26. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. This particular revelation is not about finding a messiah. This is about being a child of God or a Christian.

Also being 'justified by faith' is a justification not a messiah.

This justification is confirmed simply and clearly in the following:

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
This is confirmed and supported by:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Again 'after faith comes' is a state. 'After faith comes' is an actualization. It means after one has become a child of God or a Christian.

The revelation is clearly about throwing away the law when one becomes a 'child of God or a Christian. One is redeemed from the curse of the law by being in Christ, i.e. by being a child of God or a Christian.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Before we go further (into all those other, very valid, revelations), I asked: Are we good with the above? Are we in agreement with the few things stated in this post?

1.) Is a Christian one who believes in the Lord Jesus?
2.) Is the revelation (Galatians: 3 verses 23 to 29 KJV N.T.) about throwing away the law when one becomes a Christian?

. . . bearing in mind that, "after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster and that we are now justified by faith and this justification is as follows:

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

I perceive that you are beaten (with simple, clear and literal KJV N.T. revelations) before you start, i.e. if you hold and promote the Satanic Antichrist idea that Christians are under the law.

Do you promote the Satanic Antichrist idea that Christians are under the law? If your answer is yes. Are you going to continue promoting that Satanic Antichrist proper-gander?

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

(i.e. one has liberty based on justification to transgress the law and one will get no sin but instead be glorified by God. This is the clear Christian position, as confirmed simply and literally by KJV N.T revelations.).

If you do not clear up exactly where you stand on the above issue, it is pointless (not at all expedient) to go further. I will not engage you in pointless argument, nor would I encourage you to promote Satanic Antichrist proper-gander, in the name of Christianity.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Oh promoter of the law do you not hear and know the curse of the law:

James: 2 KJV N.T.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
However the law applies only to those who choose to esteem and promote the law and so, put themselves under the law.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Since 2000 odd years ago there is another option:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now (since 2000 odd years ago) the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Clearly only false prophets who came in Jesus name, other Satanic operatives and very foolish people, esteem, promote and remain under the law.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
These false brethren are people who esteem the law and want to return Christians to bondage under the law. The following confirms the liberty which Christians have and the bondage to which these false prophet want to return Christians.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Quoted here are so many KJV N.T. revelations which clearly and literally confirm the dangers of the law and the cure that is the law. Also these revelations also confirm that Christians have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

. . . and there are more revelations in the KJV N.T. which literally support these conclusions.

Gurucam
November 30th, 2015, 10:28 AM
:idea: :idea: Interplanner

After you said: "You apparently missed the part where Paul tells you that the Law is your "schoolmaster" to lead you to Messiah". You asked: "is it okay with you if I say Messiah instead of Christ? or will that send me plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell also?"

There are three possible scenarios with respect to your question. They are all bad.

1.) With respect to "plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" I cannot do any such thing to you. You should know this fact very clearly. It is not a joking matter.

However because you esteem the law, you will accrue sin and earn punishment. And before or after death, punishment for sin is done in hell. So you do the Maths.

"plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" result from accruing sin under the law. Fact is if one is entangled with the law in any way, one is also entangled with sin and punishment in hell.

Hell is inside the earth and this is were all sin and punishment for transgressing the law (sin) occurs, after death. Therefore one who esteem the law, when he dies on earth, is also inevitably entangled with sin and hell inside the earth, with Satan. You can be guided accordingly.

Therefore "plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" results from one own (self imposed) entanglement (with the law) and nothing else. It is a personal choice, because (since 2000 odd years ago) righteousness of God without the law also exists simultaneously, for one's choosing.

Therefore you are not obliged to esteem and/or be under the law, sin and punishment. In fact you are free to totally drop the law.

You should be aware that entanglement is a scientifically validated Quantum physics term. One cannot be separated from one's entanglement. One's entanglement is one's belief system including what one confesses with one's mouth. Entanglement is the basis of:

Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

i.e. he who esteems the law, will be judged according to the law . . . and inevitably (whether before dead or after death) there is sin and punishment in hell in this approach.

On the other hand, He who is led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin and no hell . . . but instead be glorified by God and enter God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in the spirit realm . . . and so be it.
The above is only a small part of your possible predicament.

2.) Fact is even more supportive of anyone "plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" (which relates only to those who esteem the law) are one's own immediate family members, relatives, friends and associates.

When those who esteem the law, sin and punishment die on earth, they are usually buried by their immediate family members, relatives, friends and associates inside the earth, in hell with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies, to wait indefinitely for the return of the Lord Jesus.

You would be aware that some such dead, 'law esteeming' people are inside the earth, in hell with Satan for over 2000 years. 2000 odd years in hell is punishment by it self. However punishment in hell with Satan for 2000 odd years, certainly seems to be an exchange for 60 to 70 years of a sinful life on earth. Is this the exchange rate? What you think? Do you think that it is longer?

The sad fact is those who esteem the law, inevitably sin. Then when they die on earth, they are willingly dispatched by their immediate family members, relatives, friends and associates inside the earth, in hell with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies. Clearly they all accept that those under the law must go to hell for an indefinite period. If you are among this grouping, well so be it. I am in no way connect to your guys.

3.) Additionally there is another very serious dimension to your question which is: . . . "is it okay with you if I say Messiah instead of Christ? or will that send me plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell also?".

Your question can and must be also rendered as follows: "What happens to an unawares, false brethren, who came in as a spy among Christians so as to seek to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell?"

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
The following revelations confirm precisely what is the liberty which we have in Christ Jesus and what is the bondage: to which these false prophets seek to return Christians:

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Clearly then when an unawares, false brethren comes in as a spy among Christians so as to seek to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell, this is not simply a ordinary sin. This is denial and blasphemy of the Spirit:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
1 There is therefore now (since 2000 odd years ago) no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Blasphemy of the Spirit is not forgivable at any place or time:

Matthews: 12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
This means that under this transgression (i.e. # 3.) there is serious terminal problems for those unawares, false brethren who came in as spies among Christians so as to seek to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Among other places, this serious transgression will impact them where they are buried, i.e. inside the earth, with their dead physical body in hell with Satan, waiting indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus.

They have done the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time.

They will inevitably and simply be left inside the earth in hell with Satan. The Lord Jesus will not be returning to 'shout' them out of the earth.

Gurucam
December 1st, 2015, 08:52 AM
Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

1.) The above clearly confirm that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God

The just shall live by faith. What is faith:

Hebrews 11:1King James Version (KJV)
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
The curse of the law:

James: 2 KJV N.T.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans: 4 KJV N.T.
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Galatians: 5 KJV N.T.
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
The salvation:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Why would anyone want to continue to esteem the law when it is a curse and there is another option which is to live by faith?

2.) verse: 22 confirms further that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe

What is 'the faith of Jesus Christ'? This refers to the the Lord Jesus' belief in His (not seen) Spirit.

What is the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe? This refers to a promise that: one might get the faith which the Lord Jesus had when one believe.

Since this relates to faith, then this must be stated as follows: the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe in the 'not seen' Spirit which led the Lord Jesus. This is the Spirit of Truth or the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

The verses also said: "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith". The justification referred to here relates to "we are no longer under the schoolmaster" which is the law. We are no longer under the law. It is also related to being justified by belief in the 'not seen' Spirit of the Lord Jesus. The justification is confirmed in:

Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

daqq
December 1st, 2015, 09:53 AM
και κατεβησαν προς αυτον και προσηυξατο ελισαιε προς κυριον και ειπεν παταξον δη τουτο το εθνος αορασια και επαταξεν αυτους αορασια κατα το ρημα ελισαιε :)


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Originally Posted by Interplanner http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/images/bluesaint/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4533827#post4533827)
Are you saying Gal 3:23--4:7 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Gal%203.23--4.7) does not exist or is not 'accepted'? Even Hebrews says it is about elementary things that were 'types' or 'shadows' not the reality itself.


All verses in the KJV N.T. are literally correct and valid.

However, in order to get a feel for your forthrightness, I asked (in post # 89 not in this thread) that you responded to the following rather simple and straight forward question:

1.) You said: 'You apparently missed the part where Paul tells you that the Law is your "schoolmaster" to lead you to Messiah,'

I responded: Paul said no such thing.

(This a serious challenge. You seem to be making up your own scriptures and falsely ascribing it to Paul and Christianity. Please let us clear up this simple point as an example of your forthrightness. I am on record admitting my mistake and apologizing for same.

Would you at least offer the same by responding to my question properly.)

This a literal quote, from the KJV N.T., of what is ascribed to Paul and Christianity:


'bring one onto Christ' is a state, not a messiah. This to be 'in Christ' or to be a Christian. This is to be a child of God. This fact is supported (backed-up) by:
This particular revelation is not about finding a messiah. This is about being a child of God or a Christian.

Also being 'justified by faith' is a justification not a messiah.

This justification is confirmed simply and clearly in the following:

This is confirmed and supported by:

Again 'after faith comes' is a state. 'After faith comes' is an actualization. It means after one has become a child of God or a Christian.

The revelation is clearly about throwing away the law when one becomes a 'child of God or a Christian. One is redeemed from the curse of the law by being in Christ, i.e. by being a child of God or a Christian.

Before we go further (into all those other, very valid, revelations), I asked: Are we good with the above? Are we in agreement with the few things stated in this post?

1.) Is a Christian one who believes in the Lord Jesus?
2.) Is the revelation (Galatians: 3 verses 23 to 29 KJV N.T.) about throwing away the law when one becomes a Christian?

. . . bearing in mind that, "after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster and that we are now justified by faith and this justification is as follows:


I perceive that you are beaten (with simple, clear and literal KJV N.T. revelations) before you start, i.e. if you hold and promote the Satanic Antichrist idea that Christians are under the law.

Do you promote the Satanic Antichrist idea that Christians are under the law? If your answer is yes. Are you going to continue promoting that Satanic Antichrist proper-gander?



If you do not clear up exactly where you stand on the above issue, it is pointless (not at all expedient) to go further. I will not engage you in pointless argument, nor would I encourage you to promote Satanic Antichrist proper-gander, in the name of Christianity.

Oh promoter of the law do you not hear and know the curse of the law:


However the law applies only to those who choose to esteem and promote the law and so, put themselves under the law.

Since 2000 odd years ago there is another option:

Clearly only false prophets who came in Jesus name, other Satanic operatives and very foolish people, esteem, promote and remain under the law.

These false brethren are people who esteem the law and want to return Christians to bondage under the law. The following confirms the liberty which Christians have and the bondage to which these false prophet want to return Christians.


Quoted here are so many KJV N.T. revelations which clearly and literally confirm the dangers of the law and the cure that is the law. Also these revelations also confirm that Christians have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

. . . and there are more revelations in the KJV N.T. which literally support these conclusions.




:idea: :idea:Interplanner

After you said: "You apparently missed the part where Paul tells you that the Law is your "schoolmaster" to lead you to Messiah". You asked: "is it okay with you if I say Messiah instead of Christ? or will that send me plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell also?"

There are three possible scenarios with respect to your question. They are all bad.

1.) With respect to "plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" I cannot do any such thing to you. You should know this fact very clearly. It is not a joking matter.

However because you esteem the law, you will accrue sin and earn punishment. And before or after death, punishment for sin is done in hell. So you do the Maths.

"plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" result from accruing sin under the law. Fact is if one is entangled with the law in any way, one is also entangled with sin and punishment in hell.

Hell is inside the earth and this is were all sin and punishment for transgressing the law (sin) occurs, after death. Therefore one who esteem the law, when he dies on earth, is also inevitably entangled with sin and hell inside the earth, with Satan. You can be guided accordingly.

Therefore "plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" results from one own (self imposed) entanglement (with the law) and nothing else. It is a personal choice, because (since 2000 odd years ago) righteousness of God without the law also exists simultaneously, for one's choosing.

Therefore you are not obliged to esteem and/or be under the law, sin and punishment. In fact you are free to totally drop the law.

You should be aware that entanglement is a scientifically validated Quantum physics term. One cannot be separated from one's entanglement. One's entanglement is one's belief system including what one confesses with one's mouth. Entanglement is the basis of:

The above is only a small part of your possible predicament.

2.) Fact is even more supportive of anyone "plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell" (which relates only to those who esteem the law) are one's own immediate family members, relatives, friends and associates.

When those who esteem the law, sin and punishment die on earth, they are usually buried by their immediate family members, relatives, friends and associates inside the earth, in hell with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies, to wait indefinitely for the return of the Lord Jesus.

You would be aware that some such dead, 'law esteeming' people are inside the earth, in hell with Satan for over 2000 years. 2000 odd years in hell is punishment by it self. However punishment in hell with Satan for 2000 odd years, certainly seems to be an exchange for 60 to 70 years of a sinful life on earth. Is this the exchange rate? What you think? Do you think that it is longer?

The sad fact is those who esteem the law, inevitably sin. Then when they die on earth, they are willingly dispatched by their immediate family members, relatives, friends and associates inside the earth, in hell with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies. Clearly they all accept that those under the law must go to hell for an indefinite period. If you are among this grouping, well so be it. I am in no way connect to your guys.

3.) Additionally there is another very serious dimension to your question which is: . . . "is it okay with you if I say Messiah instead of Christ? or will that send me plummeting into the gaping jaws of hell also?".

Your question can and must be also rendered as follows: "What happens to an unawares, false brethren, who came in as a spy among Christians so as to seek to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell?"

The following revelations confirm precisely what is the liberty which we have in Christ Jesus and what is the bondage: to which these false prophets seek to return Christians:

Clearly then when an unawares, false brethren comes in as a spy among Christians so as to seek to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell, this is not simply a ordinary sin. This is denial and blasphemy of the Spirit:

Blasphemy of the Spirit is not forgivable at any place or time:

This means that under this transgression (i.e. # 3.) there is serious terminal problems for those unawares, false brethren who came in as spies among Christians so as to seek to return them to bondage under the law, sin and punishment in hell.

Among other places, this serious transgression will impact them where they are buried, i.e. inside the earth, with their dead physical body in hell with Satan, waiting indefinitely on the return of the Lord Jesus.

They have done the only act that is not forgivable at any place or time.

They will inevitably and simply be left inside the earth in hell with Satan. The Lord Jesus will not be returning to 'shout' them out of the earth.

:shut: :crackup: :Popcorn: :rotfl:

:sheep:

Gurucam
December 1st, 2015, 12:29 PM
και κατεβησαν προς αυτον και προσηυξατο ελισαιε προς κυριον και ειπεν παταξον δη τουτο το εθνος αορασια και επαταξεν αυτους αορασια κατα το ρημα ελισαιε :shut: :crackup: :Popcorn: :rotfl:

:sheep:

The point is one is not and cannot be a Christian unless:

1.) one is led into one's works by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to say and do, as discerned through one's own heart or spirit and simultaneously,

2.) one knows in one's own heart and confesses with one's mouth that, one has God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and no get sin but instead be glorified by God and simultaneously,

3.) one transgresses the law so as to be led, unconditionally, by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to say and do, as discerned through one's own heart or spirit.

One cannot be Christian, if one does not practice # 1.) & # 3.) as a life style. Also one cannot be and is not a Christian if one does not know and make a heart knowing, mouth confession, according to # 2.).

Quoting that "We are no longer under the law" counts for nothing. It is the approach used by the spiritually dead.

Quoting that "We are no longer under the law" is simply a lettered repetition. A parroting. It counts for nothing. It is not a spirit and Spirit knowing. It is devoid of personalized spirit and Spirit knowing.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Only statements made out of a personal passionate, heart (experiential) knowing, counts for anything.

Your dry and cold quote of 'dead' words counts for nothing. That is strictly the letter which killeth. It is so far from the Spirit which giveth life.

Romans: 10 KJV N.T.
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
'Believing in one's heart is intuitive knowing. In order to intuitively know that Jesus was raised from the dead, one has to achieve intuitive communion, through one's own heart or spirit, with the Lord Jesus who is clad in His Spirit body in spirit heaven. This is how one can 'believe in one's heart' that the Lord Jesus, in not in the earth, in hell with Satan, but was raise to spirit heaven by God.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of the Lord Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God (God is a Spirit, i.e. the Holy Spirit).
The Spirit of the Lord Jesus makes intercession on behalf of each human, with God, who is the Holy Spirit. This is a live eternal service provided to children of God, through their individual spirits, by the living Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Fact is if one does not successfully search one's own hearts and know what is the mind of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, one would not know that the Lord is not inside the earth, in hell, with Satan. One will not know that God lifted Him to spirit heaven.

Without this actual experience one will not know that the Lord Jesus is alive and living in His Spirit, 'not seen' Son of God' body in spirit heaven.

Without this experiential spiritual/intuitive knowing, at best one will simply and only parrot things that come to one from some external physical or lettered source. And this killeth all concerned. It does not giveth life to any one . . . neither the poster nor the reader.

This creates and encourages an unfortunate reliance on physical discernment of physically written or lettered things. Through this pathway one simply get information. One gets and repeat only the reports, ideas or conclusions of some other person. This is "hand-me-down" information. To accept this information is to accept the localized conditioning of another.

Fact is 'the answer (true wisdom) is blowing in the wind'. It is only from the wind that one can actually know any thing. All Truth comes only from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus, through an 'not seen' intuitive connection between one's own spirit and this Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
One is well advised to take the revelations in KJV N.T. and move forward to spiritual awareness, live personal communion with the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus and life. And not go backwards to letter discernment and death.

:idea: :idea: Daqq, what you are doing and promoting, including the path that you are using, might be appropriate for Jews and Greek. However it is not correct and/or appropriate for Christians.

Whether or not you recognize it, Jews and Greeks are different from Christians.

The former are 'the dead' and lettered 'discern-ers' :dead:.

Christians are the spiritually aware and spirit/intuitive 'discern-ers' :first:.

These are different creatures. Jews and Greeks can interface with the creation only physically. Christians interface with the creation both physically and spiritually.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
"faith in Christ Jesus" is to intuitively commune with and know the 'not seen' and eternal Spirit of the Lord Jesus who is also the Spirit of Truth. Christians get All their knowledge, first hand, through this spirit/intuitive (none physical) pathway.

By quote the above foreign language letters and relying on same, you are coming among aspiring Christians and Christians and denying and/or derailing the above authentic spirit and Spirit based, 'life giving' Christian path. You are doing this so as to promote your 'lettered' 'killething' way.

You are promoting the backward way, (i.e. 'the letter way') that leads to certain death. You are not promoting the forward path (i.e. the spirit and Spirit way) that leads to life everlasting.

Revelations in the KJV N.T. have warned against the likes of you. You are a false prophet who came in Jesus' name. Also you are denying and blaspheming the Holy Ghost . . . and attempting to lead others to do the same which is not forgivable at any place or time.

Why did you choose :devil: :dead: :grave: and :stuck: . . . when :first: and :cloud9: had vacant places.

daqq
December 1st, 2015, 07:26 PM
Your dry and cold quote of 'dead' words counts for nothing. That is strictly the letter which killeth. It is so far from the Spirit which giveth life.

If indeed those words are dry, cold, and dead, then how is it that they are fulfilled in you as of this morning? They were not posted today but yesterday at the end of the other thread from which you are taking quotes and bringing them here. However, even as of this morning, you went back to the same thread again, and gathered more quotes from myself, clearly written with my screen name at the top of my posts; and then you brought them back here, and have again attributed my words to Interplanner. If you knew Interplanner you would know that he relegates the Torah into "abolishment" just about as much as you do. How can one be so blind even after having been admonished of what he or she was doing?



Originally Posted by daqq http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/images/bluesaint/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4534424#post4534424)
και κατεβησαν προς αυτον και προσηυξατο ελισαιε προς κυριον και ειπεν παταξον δη τουτο το εθνος αορασια και επαταξεν αυτους αορασια κατα το ρημα ελισαιε :)


2 Kings 6:18
18. And they came down to him, and Elisha prayed unto YHWH, and said, Smite this heathen-people with blindness: and He smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.

You have only proven yourself twofold worse off than the double blind Bar-Timaeus son of Timaeus who at least was willing to admit he was a blind beggar and was healed. :crackup:

:sheep:

Gurucam
December 2nd, 2015, 06:24 AM
If indeed those words are dry, cold, and dead, then how is it that they are fulfilled in you as of this morning? They were not posted today but yesterday at the end of the other thread from which you are taking quotes and bringing them here.

You are indeed sad. You are unaware of the point.

Fact is when you post words they are dry, cold, and dead. For they are lettered discerned.

When I post words they are not dry, cold, and dead. For they are intuitively/spiritually discerned.

You are simply parroting words (which you got from lettered discernment of other people's words).

I am uttering what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus told me individually, privately and directly through intuitive discernment.

They can both be the same words.

Salvation and deliverance is not in the capacity to post words which may be same as the one's that others post.

It is in the capacity to know what one post directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

1 Corinthians: 4 KJV N.T.
20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
I do not go back into lettered discernment which is rooted in seeking Hebrew or Greek manuscripts and Hebrew/English dictionaries etc. . You use this way.

I use the spirit path. I transcend time and space and commune intuitively/spiritually and directly with the living Spirit of the Lord Jesus and get all my information directly from the living Lord Jesus, in real time, all the time. This is a power, a specific Gift of the Spirit.

My way is the living and Christian way. Yours is 'the dead' way that killeth.

It is not in the words. It is how one comes to the words.

It is whether one come to one's word by;

1.) the flesh (i.e. through the faculties of one physical body) or

2.) by spirit (i.e. through the intuitive faculties of one's spirit body).

No. 1.) is the dead way that killeth.

No. 2.) is the spiritually aware way that giveth life.

:idea: :idea: Daqq, Although you may not agree with what I said. Do you (at least) understand why I said that your way is the one that killeth?

I am simply stating what is confirmed in the KJV N.T.

When you go back to the other texts that are suppose to support the KJV N.T., you are doing lettered discernment that killeth.

For Christians (and all other spiritually aware people), the written KJV N.T. is the final 'letters' for one. The KJV N.T. is the final physically delivered thing for Christians.

The KJV N.T. is the launching pad to intuitive spiritual actualization and intuitive spiritual discernment. This is the launching pad for knowing all things (none physically) though the ('none physical') intuitive faculties of one's own spirit, directly from the 'not seen' (none physical) Spirit of the Lord Jesus which is also the Spirit of Truth.

It is only from this kind of spirit to Spirit communion and discernment that one can actually and accurately get All Truth. This is the (only) basis of Christianity.

Hear the final plea of Lord Jesus:

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
All Truth became available only from the Spirit of Truth and this Spirit of Truth was made available to aspiring Christians and Christians, only after the Lord was crucified and rose to heaven.

One will never get All Truth in the KJV N.T. and/or through intellectual and physical analysis of the KJV N.T. and/or any other supposedly supporting text or manuscript. There is no Truth there or in any older texts etc.. Only the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth. And this Spirit became available to those people only after the crucifixion and rising to heaven of the Lord Jesus.

In fact the promotion of your approach, as any sort of path to Christianity, is evil, Satanic and Antichrist. This makes you a false prophet who came in Jesus' name, who is misguiding many.

:idea: :idea: A Christian is one who turns away from the letters (all physically written and physically heard scriptures) and into intuitive/spirit discernment of All Truth from the Spirit of Truth.

All Truth, as obtained only from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus, through one's own heart or spirit, is the only basis of salvation and deliverance. One is saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven only when one is led into one's works by All Truth as discerned in the above manner.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts (own hearts or spirits) knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
It is confirmed that many are called to this spirit to Spirit approach but few are chosen, i.e. few make it. The reality is that only these chosen few are Christians.

It seems that billions are called to Christianity and the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) are misled by the like of you. They err and are not chosen. Billions are led to do lettered discernment like you. Some have even earned Doctorate, Master and Bachelors degrees in lettered discernment of scriptures. Some have very huge following in supposed Christian church and other supposed Christian organizations. They all foolishly believe that they are Christians. They are all deluded.

Fact is they are all false Christians. Most of them are also false prophets who came in Jesus' name and are misleading many. Fact is the Lord Jesus has benefited them nothing. They are not at all Christians. They are not New People. They are not New creatures in Christ. They all remained Old people, who are under sin and punishment in hell. They are the (spiritually) dead who delight in the Old dead path. However they are falsely presenting themselves to be Christians.

Fact is of the billions called to Christianity, only a few are chosen. According to this prophesy, the huge followings of these people and their institutions, cannot be the few who have Truth and therefore do not err and are chosen. You do the Maths.

The following are clearly stated in the KJV N.T.
1.) many are called (to Christianity) and few are chosen.
2.) Many false prophets came in Jesus name and misguide many.
3.) People err when they do not know the scriptures and the power of God.

Most people take these prophesy/statement to be a joke. Do you now understand why many (billions) are called to Christianity and few are chosen.

daqq
December 2nd, 2015, 10:09 AM
You are indeed sad. You are unaware of the point.

Fact is when you post words they are dry, cold, and dead. For they are lettered discerned.

When I post words they are not dry, cold, and dead. For they are intuitively/spiritually discerned.

You are simply parroting words (which you got from lettered discernment of other people's words).

You apparently do not know the One from whom I learn. But aside from that, if you truly desire to discuss the scripture with me, you need to stop insulting me because I owe you nothing seeing how you have already essentially accused me of being a worker for Satan on my way to hell in the other thread. Here is what would need to happen:

1) Start a new thread that is not about astrology but the Law.
2) Try not to start off your posts with statements like "You are indeed sad".
3) Stop putting scripture quotes in quote boxes because when someone else quotes your post the scripture references are not carried into their quote of your post. All of your points have already been soundly refuted many times over, long before we ever met, but it is simply too much work and not worth the time to have to copy and paste all of your scripture quotes and put them back into your posts all over again just so they can answered. Below is a perfect example of what I mean, in case you do not understand: please notice in the full quote of your post, which follows below, that your scripture references do not appear in the full quote of your post, which passages were, "1 Corinthians: 4 KJV N.T.", "John: 16 KJV N.T.", "Romans: 8 KJV N.T.", which references also do not appear in the forum board scripture reference pop-up window because they are not properly identified. Is there some reason why you need to obfuscate in such a way? Simply put, with these issues in addition to the large amount of material which you put forth in most of your replies, it simply is not worth the time and effort that it would require; and that is especially true when you start off judging and condemning someone you have never met and then pointing them to your astrology thread. It is not worth the time because the person you have already judged knows full well that you will neither see nor hear what is said, no matter how much work is put into the response, because your judgment against that person has already been handed down.


You are indeed sad. You are unaware of the point.

Fact is when you post words they are dry, cold, and dead. For they are lettered discerned.

When I post words they are not dry, cold, and dead. For they are intuitively/spiritually discerned.

You are simply parroting words (which you got from lettered discernment of other people's words).

I am uttering what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus told me individually, privately and directly through intuitive discernment.

They can both be the same words.

Salvation and deliverance is not in the capacity to post words which may be same as the one's that others post.

It is in the capacity to know what one post directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

I do not go back into lettered discernment which is rooted in seeking Hebrew or Greek manuscripts and Hebrew/English dictionaries etc. . You use this way.

I use the spirit path. I transcend time and space and commune intuitively/spiritually and directly with the living Spirit of the Lord Jesus and get all my information directly from the living Lord Jesus, in real time, all the time. This is a power, a specific Gift of the Spirit.

My way is the living and Christian way. Yours is 'the dead' way that killeth.

It is not in the words. It is how one comes to the words.

It is whether one come to one's word by;

1.) the flesh (i.e. through the faculties of one physical body) or

2.) by spirit (i.e. through the intuitive faculties of one's spirit body).

No. 1.) is the dead way that killeth.

No. 2.) is the spiritually aware way that giveth life.

:idea: :idea: Daqq, Although you may not agree with what I said. Do you (at least) understand why I said that your way is the one that killeth?

I am simply stating what is confirmed in the KJV N.T.

When you go back to the other texts that are suppose to support the KJV N.T., you are doing lettered discernment that killeth.

For Christians (and all other spiritually aware people), the written KJV N.T. is the final 'letters' for one. The KJV N.T. is the final physically delivered thing for Christians.

The KJV N.T. is the launching pad to intuitive spiritual actualization and intuitive spiritual discernment. This is the launching pad for knowing all things (none physically) though the ('none physical') intuitive faculties of one's own spirit, directly from the 'not seen' (none physical) Spirit of the Lord Jesus which is also the Spirit of Truth.

It is only from this kind of spirit to Spirit communion and discernment that one can actually and accurately get All Truth. This is the (only) basis of Christianity.

Hear the final plea of Lord Jesus:

All Truth became available only from the Spirit of Truth and this Spirit of Truth was made available to aspiring Christians and Christians, only after the Lord was crucified and rose to heaven.

One will never get All Truth in the KJV N.T. and/or through intellectual and physical analysis of the KJV N.T. and/or any other supposedly supporting text or manuscript. There is no Truth there or in any older texts etc.. Only the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth. And this Spirit became available to those people only after the crucifixion and rising to heaven of the Lord Jesus.

In fact the promotion of your approach, as any sort of path to Christianity, is evil, Satanic and Antichrist. This makes you a false prophet who came in Jesus' name, who is misguiding many.

:idea: :idea: A Christian is one who turns away from the letters (all physically written and physically heard scriptures) and into intuitive/spirit discernment of All Truth from the Spirit of Truth.

All Truth, as obtained only from the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus, through one's own heart or spirit, is the only basis of salvation and deliverance. One is saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven only when one is led into one's works by All Truth as discerned in the above manner.

It is confirmed that many are called to this spirit to Spirit approach but few are chosen, i.e. few make it. The reality is that only these chosen few are Christians.

It seems that billions are called to Christianity and the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) are misled by the like of you. They err and are not chosen. Billions are led to do lettered discernment like you. Some have even earned Doctorate, Master and Bachelors degrees in lettered discernment of scriptures. Some have very huge following in supposed Christian church and other supposed Christian organizations. They all foolishly believe that they are Christians. They are all deluded.

Fact is they are all false Christians. Most of them are also false prophets who came in Jesus' name and are misleading many. Fact is the Lord Jesus has benefited them nothing. They are not at all Christians. They are not New People. They are not New creatures in Christ. They all remained Old people, who are under sin and punishment in hell. They are the (spiritually) dead who delight in the Old dead path. However they are falsely presenting themselves to be Christians.

Fact is of the billions called to Christianity, only a few are chosen. According to this prophesy, the huge followings of these people and their institutions, cannot be the few who have Truth and therefore do not err and are chosen. You do the Maths.

Not interested at this point in this thread. :)
:rapture:

Gurucam
December 2nd, 2015, 10:22 AM
You apparently do not know the One from whom I learn. But aside from that, if you truly desire to discuss the scripture with me, you need to stop insulting me because I owe you nothing seeing how you have already essentially accused me of being a worker for Satan on my way to hell in the other thread. Here is what would need to happen:

1) Start a new thread that is not about astrology but the Law.
2) Try not to start off your posts with statements like "You are indeed sad".
3) Stop putting scripture quotes in quote boxes because when someone else quotes your post the scripture references are not carried into their quote of your post. All of your points have already been soundly refuted many times over, long before we ever met, but it is simply too much work and not worth the time to have to copy and paste all of your scripture quotes and put them back into your posts all over again just so they can answered. Below is a perfect example of what I mean, in case you do not understand: please notice in the full quote of your post, which follows below, that your scripture references do not appear in the full quote of your post, which passages were, "1 Corinthians: 4 KJV N.T.", "John: 16 KJV N.T.", "Romans: 8 KJV N.T.", which references also do not appear in the forum board scripture reference pop-up window because they are not properly identified. Is there some reason why you need to obfuscate in such a way? Simply put, with these issues in addition to the large amount of material which you put forth in most of your replies, it simply is not worth the time and effort that it would require; and that is especially true when you start off judging and condemning someone you have never met and then pointing them to your astrology thread. It is not worth the time because the person you have already judged knows full well that you will neither see nor hear what is said, no matter how much work is put into the response, because your judgment against that person has already been handed down.



Not interested at this point in this thread. :)
:rapture:


και κατεβησαν προς αυτον και προσηυξατο ελισαιε προς κυριον και ειπεν παταξον δη τουτο το εθνος αορασια και επαταξεν αυτους αορασια κατα το ρημα ελισαιε :shut: :crackup: :Popcorn: :rotfl:

:sheep:

You, with your quote above, were never interested in Christianity. And this is O.K. 'The thing' is that you seem to be masquerading as a Christian. One cannot treat you with 'kit gloves' for such a possible serious transgression.

Nothing testifies more to 'lettered discernment that killeth' than your posting of the above foreign language rhetoric.

Your unsavory and Antichrist agenda was to drag me into some kind of lettered discernment which killeth. This might be quite acceptable in other traditions. However this is absolutely not Christian.

Being Christian is about the New Testament. This is about the Spirit and not at all about the letter:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Hear the final plea of Lord Jesus:

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
You are about the letter with killeth and I am about the Spirit which brings All Truth and giveth life.

Now you know that very clearly and so does other readers.

The very unfortunate part is that you seemed to be masquerading as a New Testament 'Spirit' and Christian person.

Fact is you are not a New Testament 'Spirit' and Christian person. You are an Old Testament, lettered person. As clear as day, you are a lettered discern-er of scriptures.

Be forthright and accept your practice. The evidence supports this claim.

:idea: :idea: You said: 'You apparently do not know the One from whom I learn.'

It matters not. I also respect your teacher, once he is for you and not for me. I have a teacher.

It is very evident to me (not from your words alone, but also from your action) that your teacher is not the Lord Jesus who anchors Christianity. Only this matters to me.

daqq
December 2nd, 2015, 10:58 AM
You, with your quote above, were never interested in Christianity. And this is O.K.

Nothing testifies more to 'lettered discernment that killeth' than your posting of the above foreign language rhetoric.

Your unsavory and Antichrist agenda was to drag me into some kind of lettered discernment which killeth. This might be quite acceptable in other traditions. However this is absolutely not Christian.

Being Christian is about the New Testament. This is about the Spirit and not at all about the letter:

You are about the letter with killeth and I am about the Spirit which giveth life.

Now you know that very clearly and so does other readers.

The very unfortunate part is that you seemed to be masquerading as a New Testament 'Spirit' and Christian person.

Fact is you are not a New Testament 'Spirit' and Christian person. You are an Old Testament, lettered person. As clear as day, you are a lettered discern-er of scriptures.

Be forthright and accept your practice. The evidence supports this claim.

Haha, you clearly do not believe the Testimony of Yeshua in even the simplest matters:

Matthew 7:1-12 KJV
1. Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4. Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7. Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10. Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11. If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12. Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Gurucam
December 2nd, 2015, 11:43 AM
You, with your quote above, were never interested in Christianity. And this is O.K. 'The thing' is that you seem to be masquerading as a Christian. One cannot treat you with 'kit gloves' for such a possible serious transgression.

Nothing testifies more to 'lettered discernment that killeth' than your posting of the above foreign language rhetoric.

Your unsavory and Antichrist agenda was to drag me into some kind of lettered discernment which killeth. This might be quite acceptable in other traditions. However this is absolutely not Christian.

Being Christian is about the New Testament. This is about the Spirit and not at all about the letter:

Hear the final plea of Lord Jesus:

You are about the letter with killeth and I am about the Spirit which brings All Truth and giveth life.

Now you know that very clearly and so does other readers.

The very unfortunate part is that you seemed to be masquerading as a New Testament 'Spirit' and Christian person.

Fact is you are not a New Testament 'Spirit' and Christian person. You are an Old Testament, lettered person. As clear as day, you are a lettered discern-er of scriptures.

Be forthright and accept your practice. The evidence supports this claim.

:idea: :idea: You said: 'You apparently do not know the One from whom I learn.'

It matters not. I also respect your teacher, once he is for you and not for me. I have a teacher.

It is very evident to me (not from your words alone, but also from your action) that your teacher is not the Lord Jesus who anchors Christianity. Only this matters to me.

Originally Posted by daqq View Post:
3) Stop putting scripture quotes in quote boxes because when someone else quotes your post the scripture references are not carried into their quote of your post.
Thank you for pointing this out. By reproducing my own post above, I only now realize that fact.

I apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Gurucam
December 2nd, 2015, 12:00 PM
Haha, you clearly do not believe the Testimony of Yeshua in even the simplest matters:

Matthew 7:1-12 KJV
1. Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Sorry to shorten your post. I did this so as to deal with them part by part.

I do not judge on my own accord. I totally accept the revelations in the KJV N.T. and I am guided accordingly. This is how the Saints do it. They never pass their own judgement, period. They simply come to literal conclusions based on the literal messages in the KJV N.T.

At any event, 'judging' is not totally debarred. Saints are empowered by God to judge:

"1 Corinthians: 6 KJV N.T.
2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?"

Does this say that the Saints will judge the world? If yes, then the question is who is a Saint?

Well, believe it or not, a Saint is not a lettered discern-er. A Saint is one who gets All Truth directly and intuitively from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and is led by only this Truth.

Believe it or not that is me. I am one of those. I am a Saint. This means that when I tell you something, it is not me telling you anything or judging you. It is the Spirit saying that to you or judging you and simply passing the message through me.

This means that I have not transgressed the revelations which you quoted. I am making no judgment. I am simply obeying the Spirit unconditionally. I am simply being a Saint (a child of God in the service of the Holy Spirit).

I am simply delivering what the Spirit of Truth wants you to know. And since I am simply led by the Spirit of Truth to say these things to you, in this manner, I was simply elected to do so. And I get no sin and instead, I am glorified by God. And I am saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven here on earth and in the spirit realm.

When you hear something from me, a Saint, it is totally different from when you hear something from a lettered discern-er.

From me, a Saint, my posts are spiritually discerned from the Spirit of Truth. This is totally the Truth and my actions are totally under grace of and glorification by, God.

On the other hand, things posted from a letter discern-er are corrupt and a cursed, at any time and/or place. At all event the letter killeth. There is no half or quarter 'killething' with respect to lettered discernment. It is always a total 'killething'.

"Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost."
This revelation gives an insight into how Saints make deliveries from the Holy Spirit.

Saints are children of God or Christians. They are the chosen few. They get all their information, guidance and instructions (their truths) directly privately and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth through each of their own hearts or spirits. And they are led into all their actions by only this information, guidance and instructions. This is how I am guided into the substance of my posts on this forum.

Bottom line is that Saints may seem to pass judgment. However they do not. The judgments which come through them are from the Holy Spirit. To safe guard themselves Saints also provide literal KJV N.T. back up for what they say. This is what I consistently do because:

1 Corinthians 14:37 KJV N.T.
“If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.”

Saints are not letter discern-ers. Letter discern-ers are not given to judge the world.

If letter discern-ers do make judgments, they are serious jeopardized. Therefore the verses which you quoted are warnings to lettered discern-ers, to not make judgments. When letters discern-ers judge and/or pass judgments, they inevitably mess-up real bad.

On the other hand, the Lord Jesus, through Paul confirmed that Saints will judge the world.

Fact is, even the Lord Jesus made distinctions between lettered discern-ers (the dead) and those who were called to be Saints. And the Lord gave them different teachings.

These conclusions and statements are supported, absolutely and literally, by very many literal revelations in the KJV N.T. . . . this is my claim. Additionally, although my intuitive insights from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus are more expansive, I do not share their fullness here.

Here I seek to post only those intuitive insights which are totally supported by pure unadulterated and literal revelations from the KJV N.T.

One is very free and very welcome to ask me further questions. We can move to another point only when we have total agreement on these points. Otherwise what is the point?

For example you might ask, is there one or more revelations from the Lord Jesus, in the KJV N.T. which says that Christians are not under the revelation which you quoted?

Which is to ask: According to the Lord Jesus, are there different sets of revelations in the KJV N.T. for different people?

Also you might ask me, Where did you get that definition for Saints?

And I will have to answer. However, if you are so inclined, please ask me one thing at a time.

In effect therefore what I am saying is that, I am a Christian (i.e. a Saint) and the verses which you quoted does not apply to me. However, you are not a Christian and those verses applies to you. I can provide clear and literal KJV N.T. revelations to fully support this statement.

Simultaneously, I am saying that what I have said (the literal statement above) is absolutely supported, literally, by clear revelations in the KJV N.T. I can provide these.

I am also saying that, as a Saint, if I seem to made judgments against you, it is not me. I am simply led to do so by the Spirit of Truth as discerned within my own heart or spirits. These are individualized messages to precisely you, from the Holy Ghost.

I suggest that you challenge this post constructively before simply passing it over and seeking to move on to some other 'discussion'.

You may not realize it. Paul was man for many seasons. He was indeed given to deliver two set of 'righteousness" for two different sets of people.

1.) Paul was given to deliver one set of righteousness that was only for lettered discern-ers. 2.) Paul was also given to deliver a totally different set of 'righteousness' to others who are not lettered discern-ers but who can and do serve the Spirit.

Fact is the Lord Jesus, when he was physically one earth, operated in the same manner.

Your unfortunate predicament is that you perceive that every thing in the KJV N.T. is for everyone. You perceive that if one follows Paul then everyone must follow every thing that Paul teaches.

This is foolish and erroneous. Unlike Peter, Paul was given to deliver to both 'the dead' and the spiritually aware. And he was given to deliver different things (different righteousness) to each set. This was also true for the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. He also delivered to both 'the dead' and the spiritually aware. And He also delivered different things (different righteousness) to each set.

One must separate the revelations and teaching in the entire KJV N.T. into their two different sets. Then apply each set appropriately to each of the two different sets of people that both the Lord Jesus and Paul encountered and delivered too.

You seem totally messed up. These two different approaches are mixed among each other in the KJV N.T. and must be separated and use appropriately.

Gurucam
December 3rd, 2015, 03:47 AM
Daqq,

Any use of the KJV N.T. must start with:

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.

10 And the disciples came, and said unto him (i.e. the Lord Jesus): Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Here the Lord confirmed that:

1.) He encountered two different sets of people.

2.) He treated them differently and separately.

3.) He delivered different things, including different righteousness to each set.

4.) One set was preferred and the other was not preferred.

5.) The preferred set were given (by God) to know the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven. That is, this set had the actualization to know the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven. They were spiritually aware and therefore could move on to the New Testament that was spirit and Spirit based. They could serve spirit and Spirit.

Only this set got the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven from the Lord Jesus. They were told to drop the law and lettered discernment and serve in the Newness of Spirit.

This set were instructed by the Lord, "follow me and let the dead bury their dead."

(this meant that this set were given to 'follow the Lord'. The other set (the 'not preferred set) were 'the dead who would inevitably bury their dead'.)

6.) The 'not preferred' set of people were the spiritually dead, also called 'the dead'. They were also described by the Lord as not given (by God) to know the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven. This meant that the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven was useless to them. It was pointless giving them these mysteries. But why? For the following reason:

The mysteries of God kingdom of heaven is anchored on spiritual awareness, as follows: The most essential mysteries of God kingdom of heaven is that, in order to be saved and to enter God kingdom of heaven, one must be led into all of one's works by All Truth. All Truth cannot be deliver to one through physically spoken or physically written words.

All Truth come to one only from the Spirit of Truth. And only through an intuitive connection between one's own spirit and the Spirit of Truth. One must be spiritually aware (i.e. aware of one's own spirit) in order to make this connection. This set of people were spiritually dead. They could not make this spirit to Spirit connection. Therefore knowing this mystery was pointless. So they were not given (or chosen) to know these mysteries.

Therefore the Lord Jesus did not in any way give the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven to these people. They could not serve in the Newness of Spirit. The Lord told this set that they must serve in the Oldness of the letters and the law.

Also, because this unfortunate set also physically followed the Lord Jesus, He had to deliver new sounding things to them. So He appeased them with stories/parables which in no way sought to give them them the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven.

This set were 'the dead' (the spiritually dead). They would inevitably bury their dead counterparts. This set of people could not 'follow the Lord Jesus'. Following the Lord Jesus meant following the Lord Jesus to spirit heaven and discerning Him in His Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth. One must be spiritually aware in order to follow the Lord Jesus to spirit heaven and also discern Him in His Spirit which is the Spirit of Truth.

The above option is not open to 'the dead'. They cannot and do not have live intuitive/spirit communion with the Lord Jesus. They have to settle for stories and the letters. Also when they die they cannot and do not rise to heaven, like Christians. When they die they loose all consciousness. They are buried in the earth, in hell, with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies to wait indefinitely, in hope, for the physical return of the Lord Jesus.

It was appropriate that these unfortunate set of people (the dead) remain under the Old law and letter based Mosaic system until they became spiritually aware. They could not embrace the New spirit and Spirit based Christian system. The Lord very slightly modified the Old Mosaic system and reaffirmed that as the guide for 'the dead'.

7.) Therefore the Lord Jesus met two different types of people, i.e. two creatures. And He made two different types and qualities of deliveries to these two different sets of people.

8.) Both sets of deliveries are mixed in the verse of the KJV N.T.

9.) The KJV N.T. is useful only when it is separated into these two sets of deliveries. And one set of deliveries is applied only to 'the dead' who are lettered discern-ers. And the other set is applied only to spiritually aware people who are given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and can serve in the Newness of spirit and Spirit.

10.) This must be your (and everyone else) starting point in the use of the KJV N.T. . . . these are the instructions of the Lord Jesus.

This post continue into the next one, post # 230 with the very related topic: The Christian path to salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in spirit heaven:

Gurucam
December 3rd, 2015, 10:55 AM
continued from post # 229 (above)

Daqq,

:idea: :idea: The Christian path to salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in spirit heaven:

If you accurately discern the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and you adapt them, you will discern the Spirit of the Lord Jesus through or within your own heart or spirit. Then you will be led into all your works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for you to say and do. This will be 'all Truth' for you. This will be your very personalized Truth.

This will be a labor of love, all around. You will love the Lord Jesus and God. You will also love your works, your environment, the people, the things and the circumstances in your life. You will also love the creation, for you will be blissfully happy and on top of all things.

You will be absolutely engulfed in love, truth and bliss. This is defined as 'Christ consciousness'. This is to be 'in Christ' This is to have the mind of Christ. This is also describes as, Enlightenment in Christ. This and only this is the aim of Christianity. In fact only this is Christianity. One who falls short of love, truth and bliss is not a Christian.

You will also have compassion for all other people, things and circumstance. Love will arise and be sustained in your heart as above because you will also be totally fulfilled and filled with friendliness, bliss and happiness and you will be very grateful for Jesus, God, the creation and every thing else. You will be thanking God, then Jesus and the creation every day. All of these things will happen naturally, spontaneously and simultaneously.

You will have all of these things simply by first discerning the Spirit of the Lord Jesus within your own heart or spirit. And then by being led, unconditionally, into all your works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for you to say and do, as discerned within your own heart or spirit. (unconditionally means that you must say and do those things even if you have to transgress the law and/or all other moral, social and religious ideals or laws)

What the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for each person to say and do is individualized like one's DNA. This defines one's mission in the body of Christ. This is a perfect amalgam of two things: 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, need,s desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's own spirit and 2.) the will of God which is the Holy Spirit.

Then when one is led into one's works by this Spirit of the Lord Jesus, one simultaneously expresses and fulfills 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's own spirit and 2.) one also do the will of the living God which is the Holy Spirit.

This is a win - win scenario. This bring one naturally and simultaneously into absolute perfection in life and into absolute contentment, bliss and gratefulness whiles also pleasing God absolutely. This is to be saved from sin and to enter and live in God's kingdom of heaven here on earth. This is the ultimate configuration of salvation and heaven for humans in physical and spirit bodies.

When you are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, in this manner, you will also be wise. You will know all things miraculously. You will be guided only by omniscience. You will also be omnipotent. All these things will arise and be experienced because of all the above other things, in a circular, natural, spontaneous, simultaneous and ceaseless manner. These experience will nourish and perpetuate each other and you and the Lord Jesus and God.

When you are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus you will also have and exercise God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. You will no longer be a 'lettered discern-er'. Simultaneously, you will be saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and in spirit heaven for all eternity.

You will also be under Grace of God and be a child of God and a Christian. You will differ in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ, with only one exception, He is the Lord of All. You will actually be an elect in the service of God. God will be for you and no one or thing can come up against you.

You will be a Saint and be given to Judge the world, for you will have the mind of Christ. You will be in 'Christ consciousness'. You will be in the body of Christ. And your work will be your God endorsed mission in the body of Christ.

Under this spirit and Spirit based system there is absolutely no limit on you, with respect to expressing and fulfilling the ideas, beliefs, needs, desires and aspirations of your own heart or spirit. When you are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus this will happen naturally, spontaneously, perfectly and magically, in totally harmony with the will of God and all people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

All these things will be yours, in one fell sweep, simply by discerning the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven (which are hidden among many other words and passages, in the KJV N.T.) and adopting same.

When one is led into all of one's works by only what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to say and do as discerned in the above manner, one knows Truth. When one is led into all of one's works by Truth one earns all of the above things.

Fact is, Satan and 'the dead' (in Jesus' instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead') are total enemies of this path. They always ruled and will continue to rule, inside the earth. However for the past 2000 odd years they also had a hold on earth's surface. This was possible because spiritual influences on the surface of earth were very weak. This gave Satan and 'the dead' field days on earth, for the past 2000 odd days. Things have changed, recently.

Now, Satan and 'the dead' can no longer have a hold on earth's population.

Spirituality is now strongly dominating the surface of earth because of many already emerged spiritual influences. Among these is the recently dawned, Spiritual Age of Aquarius. This Spiritual Age came to rule on earth because of a recent, new configuration of the planets and other heavenly bodies. This has made it easier for the ideas of the Lord Jesus and the New Testament to be established on earth's surface.

All of the above good and heavenly thing, were offered by the Lord Jesus and the New Testament, 2000 odd years ago. It was and continued to be, offered though the Spirit of the Lord Jesus which is the Spirit of Truth.

Jesus' offering and the New Testament have been distorted and corrupted for the past 2000 odd years. Jesus' offering and the New Testament have not reached traditional Christians for the past 2000 odd years. Only corruptions have reach them in the name of Christianity.

Jesus' offering and the New Testament, as literally confirmed in the KJV N.T. is now being restored though my posts. And made available in purity, clarity and totality. For humans, these beautiful things (mentioned above) are now very much more easily realizable in this Age of Aquarius. Please come on board.

All other ideas (that are presented in the name of Christianity), are conformed to the ideas and beliefs of Satan and 'the dead'. These ideas are all distortions and corruptions of Jesus' offering and the New Testament. These will imprison you and commit you to sin and punishment in hell, both on earth and eventually inside the earth, with Satan. Please run from them, as far as possible. Those ideas are lettered and letters which killeth. Therefore there is only 'spiritual death' and spiritual 'dead-ness' (including suffering and hell) in those place, among those people.

. . . these are the positions of the Lord Jesus as confirmed in the KJV N.T..

Gurucam
December 3rd, 2015, 01:28 PM
Daqq,

Christians, who are alive in physical bodies on earth, discern the Lord Jesus, who is clad only in His Spirit body in spirit heaven. They do this through the intuitive faculties of their individual spirits. At first they search their heart or spirit to discern the Spirit of the Lord.

Eventually all authentic Christian, who are alive in physical bodies on earth, remain in perpetual communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus through their hearts or spirit. That is, they remain perpetually 'on line' with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus through their own hearts or spirits. They never go 'off line'

Eventually when they die and loose their physical bodies, they rise, clad only in their spirit bodies, in three days, like the Lord Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven. Then they are actually with the Lord Jesus in spirit heaven. There they are in (only) spirit bodies and the Lord is (only) in a Spirit body.

In heaven Christians can choose to be reborn in a human physical body in a parallel earth where the Lord Jesus also lives and exists, in a physical human body. The Lord Jesus Christ exists in human form, in many parallel earth, simultaneously. He does this without altering his Spirit body and His Spirit bodied presence in spirit heaven. He is simply multidimensional in any time and space.

In spirit heaven, the Lord Jesus is clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God body. He is known only as the Lord Jesus. The 'Christ' designation and suffix does not apply and is not used in spirit heaven. There the Lord does not have an individualized personality. His Spirit simply and impersonally does the function of the Spirit of Truth.

On parallel earths the Lord Jesus has an individualized personality. On these earths, in addition to His Spirit body, the Lord is also clad in a physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man body. On these earths He is know as the Lord Jesus Christ. Also when Christians are reborn in those parallel earths to be with a physical Lord Jesus, they also take the suffix, 'Christ' (i.e. they are called John Christ, James Christ, Janet Christ etc.).

On these earths where Jesus is Lord of all, there are no family connections or family names among inhabitants and they are all Christians. No one is married or given in marriage. Unions are created only by love's urging and they are sustained only for as long as love's urging last. All children are brought forth out of normal sexual procreation that results from an expression of love's urging.

Also every one in those parallel earths was a child of God in spirit heaven before he or she was brought forth to that parallel earth. No children of the flesh are brought forth in those parallel earth, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives.

Where ever the Lord Jesus Christ is present in one or more parallel earths He is Lord of all. On those earths, God's material and physically based, kingdom of heaven prevails perpetually. There are all modern conveniences conformed to the slight play spirit based wish of every individual. For indeed on those earths only play prevails. Life is absolutely effortless.

Christians can choose to have a human physical life with a physical Lord Jesus in any of those parallel earth, for as long as they like. There they live in a perpetual heaven on earth.

Christians are always in live communion with the Lord Jesus. Indeed once one becomes an authentic Christian (i.e. through spirit to Spirit communion etc.) one remains in eternal, perpetual and live communion with the Lord Jesus.

Christian who are in spirit heaven can also choose to return to this earth.

Gurucam
December 3rd, 2015, 02:42 PM
Daqq,

If you start with post # 229, you will get an idea of how very far away traditional Christianity is from revelations in the KJV N.T.

It is totally impossible to sensibly engage a traditional Christian on Christianity, if one is using literal and clear revelations in the KJV N.T.

Post # 229 relates to Matthews: 13 verse: 9 to 16 KJV N.T. However there are two other basic revelations in the KJV N.T. which put Christians in a class all their own with a righteousness of God, all their own. And leave 'the dead' in another class all by themselves and in a righteousness of God that is totally different.

1.) Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

2.) 2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

These totally dismiss the law and the letter for Christians. These also literally support the revelation in Matthews: 13 verse: 9 to 16 KJV N.T.

And these revelations from the KJV N.T. do not stand alone.

Within the KJV N.T. there are scores of other revelations which say the same things and/or totally and literally support the above revelations including Matthews: 13 verse: 9 to 16 KJV N.T. as they are presented in my post.

So you cannot invoke the 'translation error' thing. Throw out your Hebrew/English and English/other dictionaries when you are on a Christian forum. They simply killeth, on all fronts.

There is total all pervading literal consistency among very many revelations in the KJV N.T. as follows:

In unison these (scores of KJV N.T. revelations) all confirm that: "the Lord on his own and then through Paul, left two distinct and separate approaches to God's righteousness. One each for two different sets of people (creatures) who was on earth 2000 years ago and continue to be on earth up to this day.

There is righteousness of God that is with the law. There is also righteousness of God that is with out the law.

There are the actual mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and then there are parables.

There are those who are given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and there are those who are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

There are people whose heart are not waxed gross and there are people whose hearts are waxed gross.

Jesus met them all and gave them very different deliveries according to whether they were the dead or the spiritually aware.

The Lord even left two clear instructions with respect to the dead and Christians: 1.) let the dead bury their dead and 2.) follow me.

The Lord also confirmed that children of the flesh will be thrown out and not inherit together with children of God.

There is no liberty and there is liberty.

These things are very clearly and literally stated in the KJV N.T.

One has to posture like a lemon used car sales man to argue against the above fact.

freelight
December 3rd, 2015, 03:00 PM
Daqq,

If you start with post # 229, you will get an idea of how very far away traditional Christianity is from revelations in the KJV N.T.

It is totally impossible to sensibly engage a traditional Christian on Christianity, if one is using literal and clear revelations in the KJV N.T.

What if one chooses to use the NIV, NASB, ASV or any other modern day translation that may better represent the total manuscripts available and perhaps give a better picture of the original autographs or earliest traditions? :) - there is no reason to assume superiority of the KJV, because its not a perfect translation and was translated from a limited number of manuscripts at the time of its translation. Today we have better or more complete translations, at least in accentuating certain passages for a better informed perspective for students.

Gurucam
December 3rd, 2015, 03:31 PM
What if one chooses to use the NIV, NASB, ASV or any other modern day translation that may better represent the total manuscripts available and perhaps give a better picture of the original autographs or earliest traditions? :) - there is no reason to assume superiority of the KJV, because its not a perfect translation and was translated from a limited number of manuscripts at the time of its translation. Today we have better or more complete translations, at least in accentuating certain passages for a better informed perspective for students.

1.) You are simply sporting around my post. By your own admission your do not read them.

You are 'loafing' near the goal post. If you make any point it would be off-side. It would not count.

Your question (which has been long addressed) also confirms this clearly.

2.) Do you have your own version of the KJV N.T., as well? Those (the NIV, NASB, ASV, etc.) are simply lettered, "de-spiritualized" versions of the spiritual KJV N.T. At best, those are what is left after spirit and Spirit have been removed from the KJV N.T. Those represent corruption at its height.

The NIV, NASB, ASV, etc. are no different from Daqq's ideas derived through the use of his Hebrew/English dictionary.

3.) It is clear that those who wrote the KJV N.T. were inspired. They had spiritual insights. :readthis: and :chew:

All verses in the KJV N.T. are related and relevant and contribute to guiding one to light.

The KJV N.T. is a holistic one momentary flash of total knowledge in every verse. They are compilations of intuitions. Every verse is intricately and totally connected at their underlying (quantum) level.

It is not likely that you and Daqq can or would discern this ever existing spiritual depth that is ever present in the KJV N.T.

4.) I would not consider any modern or other alteration to the KJV N.T.

I am not here to prove the KJV N.T. anything. I am not here to prove the KJV N.T. good, bad or indifferent.

I use the KJV N.T. because it concurs with my spirit/intuitive insights from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

The KJV N.T. is validated to be correct by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

However the likes of you and Daqq validate your 'scriptures through lettered discernment, including the use of dictionaries.

My point was always that my way is the Christian way, i.e. the way that giveth life. You all use the path which killeth.

The KJV N.T. was written in inspired times by inspired people. This is spiritually evident. Indeed this I know. I am not concerned with the others.

5.) :idea: :idea: Do you know how you identify if you have spiritual actualization? It is the same as identifying spirit in things like the KJV N.T.

If one's insights are spiritual, they will inevitably be holographic. Also if one's discernment of a piece of scripture can be holographic, then the piece of scripture was spiritually inspired.

The essential nature of spirit and spiritual discernment is holographic. Do you understand what this means?

This means that the whole is contained in every little piece. A 'one line' insight is spiritual if one can intuit the totality of Truth from it. Same with the written scriptures. If one can intuit the total message within each little line or verse, the writing is spiritually inspired and so is the reader.

Only a spiritually gifted person can write things in that manner. I find the KJV N.T. to have this holographic nature.

The NIV, NASB, ASV etc. represent the sadness that is left after the lettered removal of the natural holographic nature of the KJV N.T.. They are pure corruption. Indeed the NIV, NASB, ASV etc. are lethal weapons. They are weapons of mass 'killething'. They represent the essence of 'the dead burying their dead'.

6.) One might say that the KJV N.T. is among the worse example of writing. And indeed from a linear and/or lettered perspective the KJV N.T. might just be so. However the KJV N.T. is not a linear or lettered writing. It is a spiritually inspired work.

Apart from being a historic record of sorts, the KJV N.T. is a written rendition of direct and flowing intuitive/spirit insights from the Lord Jesus and others. These kinds of writing cannot capture intellectual grammatical correctness and finesse. The messages are multidimensional and holographic in essence. They defy linear/lettered expression.

Any attempt to bring them to grammatical finesse would destroy them. Indeed any attempt to bring the KJV N.T. to grammatical finesse is describes as lettered discernment which killeth.

7.) The writings in KJV N.T. are like my writing on this forum. When I try to render in writing, all the dimensions of my intuitive cognition from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, my posts become convoluted. And the essential message can be killed.

Fact is spiritual insights cannot be rendered (delivered) in physically spoken and/or physically written words. This kind of knowing cannot be brought out into the physical realm. They remain mostly as "not uttered" knowings, within the consciousness of the intuitive know-er. This is the language and mode of communication, of spirit.

This kind of knowing is described in the KJV N.T. as follows:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Spiritual/intuitive insights are truths. They are all groanings which cannot be uttered. However, for the sake of the spiritually dead, we try to utter them. It is a labor of love.

8.) It always seem necessary to have one read a lot to get any important insight. Don't you agree?

Easy is never the way to anything, for 'the dead'. They never get the real (the multidimensional) 'story' from any thing. They cannot. They are all linear and lettered discern-ers. They are always seeking dictionaries to get to the linear and lettered meaning.

The dead are one track and one reality people. Straight liners. They are linear people even in their three dimensional world. They are half an eyed people in a kingdom of two eyed people. This make them trainable and easily enslave-able by the Satanic status quo. This is the mark of physicality and the physically oriented or unawares.

They are light years away from spiritual awareness.

Fact is the spirit world is the Quantum field. This is the realm of all probabilities, i.e. the realm of unlimited possibilities and extreme multidimensional-ity. The dead have not awakened to this spirit/quantum realm. They are bitterly opposed to this realm. This is essential nature of the KJV N.T. This spiritual dimension is ever present in the KJV N.T. but totally absent in the NIV, NASB, ASV, etc.

9.) The dead are really killers who killeth. They slaughter spirit and Spirit. They are butchers of the KJV N.T. Also they are burying their dead counterparts with their killeth-ing. They are, indeed, 'the dead who bury their dead', at least in a few multidimensional ways. However they would not know this fact.

Their idea of 'the dead burying their dead' is limited to physically grabbing a shovel, digging a hole in the earth and burying a dead person. They have no conception, beyond physical seeing and this informs them and guide their actions. They remain unaware of (or dead to) the totality of what they have actually buried. They are so totally one dimensional.

10.) Only the likes of these one dimensional, 'linearizing' "de-Spiriting" people/creatures will create, as their scriptures, one dimensional works like the NIV, NASB, ASV or any other modern day translations or other presentations of the KJV N.T.. These are simply corruption of the deep, total, multidimensional, rich and spirit/intuitive KJV N.T..

The NIV, NASB, ASV or any other modern day translations or other presentations of the KJV N.T. are 'the fruits of lettered discernment' which killeth. These are on the wrong side, the left side.

My posts reaffirm the spirit and Spirit dimensions of the KJV N.T. and these posts are totally and literally supported by all revelations in the KJV N.T., as they are in the KJV N.T. My posts giveth life. My posts are on the right side.


All we are saying is, leave peace alone.

. . . :readthis: and :chew: on it, then get the :idea: and :).
Be a :sheep: they are on the right side, they go only :1Way: to :cloud9:
Indeed please be a 'right sider' and not a 'left sider'.

. . . hope that you know how to be a 'right sider' (an insider) and not a 'left sider' (an outsider)
. . . it is all in your head and how you use your brain.

. . . if I might say so my self, this is a pretty good post.

Gurucam
December 4th, 2015, 01:37 PM
. . . 'examine the "horns"' means: please investigate the possibility that there is a wolf in sheep clothing (pretending to be a sheep) among the sheep. (sheep are Christians, wolves are false prophets) . . . all I am saying is: 'please examine the horns'.


. . . Today we have better or more complete translations, at least in accentuating certain passages for a better informed perspective for students.

I addressed the first part of your statement in the previous post, # 234. Now for the above, i.e. the last part of your post:

I am very concerned that you 'some how' seem to believe that you can and/or must 'defend students'

Do you accentuate certain passages for students?

Students of what? . . . I must ask

Clearly from the substance of post # 234, you have been exposed to be a letter discerned who killeth.

You seem to lack the finesse of spiritual awareness.

Therefore which group of students can you or do you help?

Are these naive, helpless innocent, young 'student' who might be seeking Truth and life from the KJV N.T. ?

To send them to the likes of the NKJV N.T. is to totally derail them.

Consider the following two renditions of Romans: 7 verse: 4:

1.) From the KJV: Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.


2.) From the NKJV: Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another — to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.


Clearly these are not the same. These are fundamentally different.

The KJV N.T. rendition is certainly more liberating than the NKJV N.T.

A dash ( - ) is not the same as 'even'.

1.) 'Even' introduces an option. One choice among others.

2.) A dash totally eliminate options and rails one into doing only one thing.

These revelations relate to bringing forth 'fruits onto God'. A most important revelation, indeed.

If one embraces the KJV N.T. one has more than one option through which one can bring forth 'fruits onto God.

If one embraces the NKJV N.T. there is only one choice, i.e. one may be married only to him who is raised form the dead, if one want to bring forth 'fruits onto God'.

Apart from the very erroneous and unsavory idea conveyed by the NKJV N.T. there is this other fact:

The idea of having other options (other than marrying one who is raised form the dead), with respect to bringing forth 'fruits onto God' is confirmed in many other places in the KJV N.T.

Are you seeking to expose 'student' to the NKJV N.T. which is clearly a corruption of the KJV N.T.?

You seem to be a very careless man who is simply 'loafing' in 'off-side' positions . . . aiming to make your 'off-side' point.

Clearly you are here only for sport and 'loafing'.

I would rather believe that you are careless instead of corrupt. However carelessness is corruption all it own.

In which or what way is Romans: 7 verse: 4 of the NKJV N.T. 'a better or more complete translation' of Romans: 7 verse: 4 of the KJV N.T. . . when there is a revelation in the KJV N.T. which tells of Abraham bringing forth the ultimate fruit onto God, a child of God, through normal sexual procreation.

How is the NKJV N.T. a 'better or more complete translation' than the KJV N.T. when: This second way of bringing forth fruits onto God, as confirmed in the KJV N.T., has been removed from the NKJV N.T.? How is that helping anyone?

Using the NKJV N.T. will most certainly only pull down a genuine seeker of Truth and life.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Galatians 3 KJV N.T.
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

By serving in the Newness of spirit one stop bringing forth fruits onto death and start bringing forth only fruits onto God. Applying this to fruits of marriage it is confirmed that when couples are led into their procreative sexual act by spirit and Spirit, they bring forth only children of God.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Gurucam
December 5th, 2015, 05:10 AM
Do you guys want to, now, move on to what exactly is a spiritual life, on earth and else where?

. . . as confirmed by revelations in the KJV N.T.

It is not what is promoted, taught and lived in traditional Christianity.

Gurucam
December 7th, 2015, 01:27 AM
Living in spirit and Spirit is the way to be relevant on earth in the current, Spiritual Age of Aquarius. There is no other way to stay here.

1. 'spirit' is one's own spirit. Each person has a spirit or spiritual body which is unique to one as one's DNA. A person's spirit is his or her authentic and inherent individuality. A person's spirit is his or her authentic and inherent identity.

2. 'Spirit' refers to two different simultaneously existing Spirits. One is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus (which is the Spirit of Truth) and the other is the Spirit of God (which is the Holy Spirit).

3. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus enables one to live on earth as a human and serve one's own spirit in perfect harmony with the Spirit of God. This is authentic living. This is how one's identity is authentic. Earth was given to be operated only in this way.

To be relevant on earth in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius one must live authentically. One must live according to one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

In order to do this one's spirit (based) identity must be distinguished from other identities. These other identities must no longer lead one into any thing in one's life on earth.

For the past 2000 odd years humans on earth routinely assumed none spirit identities so as to play out roles on earth. To continue along this path is to be irrelevant on earth in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

4. The following is the error of our past and now irrelevant ways. This is what not to do. Actually this is what not to continue to do:

For the past 2000 odd years, life on earth is such that humans on earth were required to play different role from moment to moment. In any given day a human might be required to be a parent, a financial manager, a cook, a licensed automobile driver, a teacher, a councilor, a guardian, etc.

For each role a person plays, he puts on and displays a set of traits and behaviors. These constitutes specific identities. However in the world as it is today, these identities hardly represent the authentic identity of any one.

5. The specific set of traits and behaviors that a person puts on for each of these roles is to a great extent learn, after birth, from one's environment. These are learn from formal, parental and other education, observation, from the results of one's actions etc.

To a great extent a person comes onto these things which frame his various identities on earth, from his environment. These are not of the person. Generally these do not come from inside the person.

These are the ideas of others which he accept and adopts as his own. He willingly come to own them. Later he goes on to teach these ideas and behavior to others (like his own children and other charges) as guidance and wisdom.

6. For the past 2000 years these acquired ideas and behaviors ruled most everyone's lives and give them their identities. These comes from generally existing ideals and laws of morality, society, education, lifestyles and religiosity. These represent the wisdom of the world. However these need not be wise at all.

For example, in 1492, the wisdom of the world in Spain was that the earth was flat. After that it was assumed and believed that people who respected nature and the earth were backward. They were enslaved and/or killed so as to give way to 'wiser' people. This was held to be the wisdom of the world back then.

7. Today the role of being a automobile driver, which we practice and teach others to practice, is destructive to the environment. However this constitutes the current wisdom of the world.

When one assumes identities based on the above, these cannot be authentic identities. Also it cannot be one's authentic identity to be self destructive. However these are the kinds of identities which most humans hold. This means that most humans are not authentic. Their identities are not authentic.

The above identity is described as one's ego and the lifestyle is ego driven life. This is how one served in the Old (now ended) Age of Pisces. And the reality on the surface of earth tolerated this way of life. This has now changed.

8. Now in order to be on earth, one must be relevant in the Spiritual Age of Aquarius. This requires authenticity. One can no longer relegate one's spirit identity and 'put on' and live earthly identities as one did in the past.

One's identity must be based totally on one's own spirit and one must live that identity in perfect harmony with the will of God. This is made easily possible as follows:

Now each person must discern the Spirit of the Lord Jesus within his own heart or spirit. Then be led into all of one's works (roles and all) only by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to say and do as discern through one's own heart or spirit. One must say and do these things even if one has to transgress all prevailing ideals and laws of of morality, society, education, lifestyles, religiosity, etc.

9. What the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for one to say and do is a perfect amalgam of two things: 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's own spirit and 2.) the will of God which is the Holy Spirit.

In other words in the current spiritual Age of Aquarius on earth, the reality on earth will be conformed to: the things in the spirits of humans, in perfect harmony with the Holy Spirit. One must be able to access and live this reality as one's way of life.

Man's locally derived ideas and human ego are out of here. These would no longer be facilitated here. This is a new earth. This is now an earth where the spirit based Christian ideas of the Lord Jesus will rule unequivocally and absolutely. One must rise to this life style or be forced out of here.

10. In this new reality on earth humans will not inform and/or lead themselves. Humans will recognize their infirmities. They will relegate their egos. They will realize that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth knows what they want and need, far more accurately than they themselves. They will chose to be led, unconditionally, by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth.

Indeed humans will continue to serve the roles of parents, financial managers, cooks, automobile drivers, teachers, councilor, guardians, etc. However humans will not serve in these roles according to the wisdom of man (i.e. the wisdom of the world).

Now all humans will no longer serve on earth according to the deluded wisdom of physicality. They will serve in the physical world, on earth, according to the truth based wisdom of the spirituality.

11. All humans will serve according to each of their own spirits in harmony with the will of God (the Holy Spirit). This will make them actualized artists of their roles. They will serve their roles with omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence. This defines the life style in the current spiritual Age of Aquarius, on earth

The life style is made possible effortlessly, naturally and spontaneously by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth. That is, when one is led, unconditionally, into one's works, by precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth has in mind for one to do and say, as discerned within one's own heart or spirit.

12. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus has qualities and characteristics which make Him totally identifiable to one, within one's own heart or spirit. One will need to know these qualities and characteristics.

These qualities and characteristics are essentially spiritual. However they can be described in physical words but only in a limited way. Also only sincere inquiries will bring one to the authentic information. One must be truly and naturally interested.

To a sincere seeker the Lord said: Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Ego plays, lack of humility and insincerity, including posturing like a lemon used car salesman works seriously against one. About these people, the Lord said: Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed.

It is not a 'free for all'. It is for the chosen few. If you ask about the qualities and characteristics of the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, I can help.

13. Guys this is the KJV N.T., literally presented, parable free and in total clarity. This is the fullness of time gift. These post of mine can enable the last few who come to Christianity to get truth in clarity and not err. Then they will be among the last few who are chosen first.

This continues in the next post # 238:

Gurucam
December 7th, 2015, 12:45 PM
this is a continuation of the above post # 237.

1. Luke: 8 KJV N.T.
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

Post # 237 above is truth in the fullness of time.

2. 2 Peter's: 3 KJV N.T.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2000 odd years have passed for humans but for the Lord and other spirit beings, the crucifixion of the Lord was just two day ago. 2000 odd years ago the Lord said, God's kingdom of heaven is close at hand and vengeance will be His. Only two days have passed for the Lord Jesus.

3. 2 Peter's: 3 KJV N.T.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

The looking for a new heaven and a new earth has ended. God's kingdom is now at hand on earth. Only a chosen few are prepared. It came as a thief in the night for the masses.

4. 2 Peter's: 3 KJV N.T.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

The dead are seriously jeopardized. They have not followed Paul's spirit and Spirit based teachings of the Lord Jesus. Instead they have followed Peter's letter and law based commission. They have not prepared themselves (for the spiritual Age of Aquarius). They will be cast out of earth.

5. Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter.

There are two scriptures in the KJV N.. One for 'the dead' and the other for the spiritually aware. 'The dead' got a scripture that is letters and law based. The spiritually aware got a scripture that is spirit and Spirit based.

The former scripture was committed onto Peter. However Paul was also given to deliver this commission. This is the gospel of circumcision. This is righteousness of God that is with the law.

The latter scripture was committed onto only Paul. Peter was not at all given to deliver this commission. This the gospel of un-circumcision. This is righteousness of God that is without the law.

6. 2 Peter's: 3 KJV N.T.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, [U]as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction

It is clear that traditional Christians (billions) do the other scriptures (Peter's scriptures which is lettered and law based) and not Paul's scriptures (which is spirit and Spirit based) and this led to their own destruction

For the past 2000 odd years it was common for traditional Christians to forcefully promote that both gospels were the same and then go onto deny, undermine, persecute and blaspheme Paul's (spirit and Spirit based) commission and esteem Peter's (letter and law based) commission. This was blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.

7. Pay back time is at hand.

Clarity is at hand. Please come on board with truth and save yourself.

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 04:40 AM
Scriptures are meant to led one into spiritual/intuitive searches. That is an individual 'inward'/heart search.

Scriptures are not meant to deliver clear explanations. They cannot and do not deliver Truth.

Truth (which saves and delivers) is very individualized. This must be gotten by each person privately and intuitively through an individual (none physical) connection between his own spirit and the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

JosephR
December 8th, 2015, 05:34 AM
Scriptures are meant to led one into spiritual/intuitive searches. That is an individual 'inward'/heart search.

Scriptures are not meant to deliver clear explanations. They cannot and do not deliver Truth.

Truth (which saves and delivers) is very individualized. This must be gotten by each person privately and intuitively through an individual (none physical) connection between his own spirit and the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus.
lies.. be free man...

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 08:29 AM
lies.. be free man...

Clearly you were lied too but not by me. You were probably lied too by your elders, teachers and priests. They were probably all (witting or unwitting) false prophets who came on your path.

The Lord Jesus said:

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Only the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth. The last thing that the Lord told the disciples, 1.) "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now" and 2.) "the Spirit of Truth will come after I depart. Then the Spirit of Truth will bring All Truth". Therefore All Truth was to come only after the Lord was crucified and rose to heaven. Getting All Truth is a spirit to Spirit things. Not a physical reading or physical hearing thing. This is further supported by:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T
27 And he that searcheth the hearts (spirits) knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Scriptures are not meant to deliver clear explanations. They cannot and do not deliver Truth.

Scriptures are meant to lead one into spiritual/intuitive searches. That is an individual 'inward'/heart search. Scriptures are meant to induce one to 'seek ye first the kingdom of God within.

More precisely scriptures are meant to induce one to 'seek ye first the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth, in God's kingdom of heaven, within one's own heart or spirit'.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Truth (which saves and delivers) is very individualized. This is one's individualized mission in the body of Christ. This must be gotten by each person privately and intuitively through an individual (none physical) connection between his own spirit and the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This is how Paul connected with the Lord Jesus, on the road to Damascus, after the Lord Jesus was crucified and rose to spirit heaven. Paul confirmed how he got his own Truth (i.e. his own spirit and Spirit based mission in the body of Christ) in the following:

Galatians: 1 KJV N.T.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

. . . see next post # 242, for the continuation:

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 12:12 PM
. . . continued form post # 241

Scriptures (the KJV N.T.) are essentially parables given to those who were not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

These unfortunate people (who got parables) are describes as 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead). The Lord Jesus said: I speak to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed. The scriptures are mostly parables.

The remaining deliveries (i.e. apart from parables) in the KJV N.T., do not deliver Truth. They simply confirm the path through which one can obtain Truth . . . which is through the ('not seen' or none physical) Spirit of Truth. These were given by the Lord Jesus, to the disciples, in very private sessions among only them.

Parables were given by the Lord Jesus to everyone else, (other than his twelve disciples) because they were not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Therefore (in spite of erroneous popular belief) parables do not in any way contain the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. At any event the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven simply reveals and/or confirms the path to "All Truth" and what is All Truth which saves and deliver one.

Actually the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven can be said in one line as follows: All Truth (which can save and deliver one) comes only from the Spirit of Truth through an intuitive connection between one one's own spirit and the Spirit of Truth which is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. (this is the big secret) If you miss this and/or did not adapt and utilize this, the Lord Jesus has benefited you nothing. If you miss this and/or did not adapt and utilize this, you cannot be and you are not a Christian. You are simply masquerading as a Christians.

. . . continued in post # 243, next:

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 12:24 PM
. . . continued form post # 242 above.

Another serious truth which is not known to traditional Christians is that: From among all those people (2000 odd years ago) only Paul achieved this (higher) spirit to Spirit communion with the Lord Jesus. Only Paul first sought the kingdom of God within and was successful. Then he became a minister of the New Testament. Peter remained a minister of a modified version of the O.T.

These is no confirmation (in the KJV N.T.) that any disciple achieve this spirit to Spirit communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth. Therefore only Paul got All Truth. This enabled the Lord Jesus to commit the gospel of uncircumcision onto Paul. This is the righteousness of God that is without the law and through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and grace. This meant that Paul got his commission through the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. Where as Peter got his commission through the Physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. There commissions are totally different.

Also one who seeks to be Christian must get his Truth as Paul got his (not as Peter). They must get it individually through a spirit to Spirit communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Truth. This makes Christians a very rear creature. Indeed Christians are the chosen few.

With respect to the body in which the Lord Jesus rose to heaven:
1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

The Lord Jesus makes intercession, with the Holy Spirit, from spirit heaven, for human by operating through His Spirit. Humans can reach Him only through each of their own spirits. It is all spirit to Spirit, in real time, all the time. Let no one fool you.

. . . continued in the next post # 244

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 01:06 PM
. . . continued from the last post # 243

The last thing that the Lord Jesus physically told his disciples was: I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. However it is expedient that I go away, for only when I go away by crucifixion and rising to heaven, will I sent the Spirit of Truth who will bring All Truth.

Therefore All Truth became available to the disciples (and all those people) only after the Lord was crucified and rose to heaven. More precisely, only after the Lord was crucified and rose to heaven was the Spirit of Truth made available to bring All Truth.

This means that everything that was delivered by the physical Jesus (as recorded in the KJV N.T.), does not contain Truth. These were all parables which were never intended to deliver Truth. The other few deliveries which the Lord Jesus made were to his disciples. He made these in very private session among only them. In these the Lord simply confirmed the path to Truth which is only though a 'not seen', intuitive connection between each person's own spirit and the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

To be a Christian one must also, "neither received it of man, neither be taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ". In the KJV N.T., Paul is our only example of a Christian. Christianity is about the New Testament and life, which come only through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus in the manner that Paul discerned the Lord. The letter is the scriptures and that killeth.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

. . . the time to confirm the blatant truth in totally, purity and clarity is at hand.

My post are truth, in the fullness of time. Those who come to my post, in these last day and adapt it, will not err and be chosen first. (i.e. according to: 'the last shall be first and the first last")

It is indeed unfortunate for those who have died under the past/traditional false teachings. They never got the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They have only themselves to blame. The Lord Jesus did confirm that 'people err when they do not know scriptures'. He also confirmed that 'many false prophets will misled many'. And He did also confirm that "many will be called and few chosen".

Therefore the ones who are surprised by the KJV N.T. facts brought out in these posts have clearly not read their KJV N.T., properly. It seemed that they relied on others to tell them the truth (as recorded in the KJV N.T.) and they were collectively misled.

The sad fact is that these are the very great majority (billions) who are called to be Christians. They are the misled and not-chosen masses. Clearly they delight in parables. Clearly also, they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. Their hearts are waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed.

. . . they can blame only themselves, they simply wanted it their way and so they got it their way. They teachers discerned the KJV N.T., corruptly, according to the liking of these masses of people. Tithes and offering seemed more important than truth.

freelight
December 8th, 2015, 01:45 PM
1.) You are simply sporting around my post. By your own admission your do not read them.

You are 'loafing' near the goal post. If you make any point it would be off-side. It would not count.

Your question (which has been long addressed) also confirms this clearly.

2.) Do you have your own version of the KJV N.T., as well? Those (the NIV, NASB, ASV, etc.) are simply lettered, "de-spiritualized" versions of the spiritual KJV N.T. At best, those are what is left after spirit and Spirit have been removed from the KJV N.T. Those represent corruption at its height.

The NIV, NASB, ASV, etc. are no different from Daqq's ideas derived through the use of his Hebrew/English dictionary.

3.) It is clear that those who wrote the KJV N.T. were inspired. They had spiritual insights. :readthis: and :chew:

All verses in the KJV N.T. are related and relevant and contribute to guiding one to light.

The KJV N.T. is a holistic one momentary flash of total knowledge in every verse. They are compilations of intuitions. Every verse is intricately and totally connected at their underlying (quantum) level.

It is not likely that you and Daqq can or would discern this ever existing spiritual depth that is ever present in the KJV N.T.

4.) I would not consider any modern or other alteration to the KJV N.T.

I am not here to prove the KJV N.T. anything. I am not here to prove the KJV N.T. good, bad or indifferent.

I use the KJV N.T. because it concurs with my spirit/intuitive insights from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

The KJV N.T. is validated to be correct by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

However the likes of you and Daqq validate your 'scriptures through lettered discernment, including the use of dictionaries.

My point was always that my way is the Christian way, i.e. the way that giveth life. You all use the path which killeth.

The KJV N.T. was written in inspired times by inspired people. This is spiritually evident. Indeed this I know. I am not concerned with the others.

5.) :idea: :idea: Do you know how you identify if you have spiritual actualization? It is the same as identifying spirit in things like the KJV N.T.

If one's insights are spiritual, they will inevitably be holographic. Also if one's discernment of a piece of scripture can be holographic, then the piece of scripture was spiritually inspired.

The essential nature of spirit and spiritual discernment is holographic. Do you understand what this means?

This means that the whole is contained in every little piece. A 'one line' insight is spiritual if one can intuit the totality of Truth from it. Same with the written scriptures. If one can intuit the total message within each little line or verse, the writing is spiritually inspired and so is the reader.

Only a spiritually gifted person can write things in that manner. I find the KJV N.T. to have this holographic nature.

The NIV, NASB, ASV etc. represent the sadness that is left after the lettered removal of the natural holographic nature of the KJV N.T.. They are pure corruption. Indeed the NIV, NASB, ASV etc. are lethal weapons. They are weapons of mass 'killething'. They represent the essence of 'the dead burying their dead'.

6.) One might say that the KJV N.T. is among the worse example of writing. And indeed from a linear and/or lettered perspective the KJV N.T. might just be so. However the KJV N.T. is not a linear or lettered writing. It is a spiritually inspired work.

Apart from being a historic record of sorts, the KJV N.T. is a written rendition of direct and flowing intuitive/spirit insights from the Lord Jesus and others. These kinds of writing cannot capture intellectual grammatical correctness and finesse. The messages are multidimensional and holographic in essence. They defy linear/lettered expression.

Any attempt to bring them to grammatical finesse would destroy them. Indeed any attempt to bring the KJV N.T. to grammatical finesse is describes as lettered discernment which killeth.

7.) The writings in KJV N.T. are like my writing on this forum. When I try to render in writing, all the dimensions of my intuitive cognition from the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, my posts become convoluted. And the essential message can be killed.

Fact is spiritual insights cannot be rendered (delivered) in physically spoken and/or physically written words. This kind of knowing cannot be brought out into the physical realm. They remain mostly as "not uttered" knowings, within the consciousness of the intuitive know-er. This is the language and mode of communication, of spirit.

This kind of knowing is described in the KJV N.T. as follows:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Spiritual/intuitive insights are truths. They are all groanings which cannot be uttered. However, for the sake of the spiritually dead, we try to utter them. It is a labor of love.

8.) It always seem necessary to have one read a lot to get any important insight. Don't you agree?

Easy is never the way to anything, for 'the dead'. They never get the real (the multidimensional) 'story' from any thing. They cannot. They are all linear and lettered discern-ers. They are always seeking dictionaries to get to the linear and lettered meaning.

The dead are one track and one reality people. Straight liners. They are linear people even in their three dimensional world. They are half an eyed people in a kingdom of two eyed people. This make them trainable and easily enslave-able by the Satanic status quo. This is the mark of physicality and the physically oriented or unawares.

They are light years away from spiritual awareness.

Fact is the spirit world is the Quantum field. This is the realm of all probabilities, i.e. the realm of unlimited possibilities and extreme multidimensional-ity. The dead have not awakened to this spirit/quantum realm. They are bitterly opposed to this realm. This is essential nature of the KJV N.T. This spiritual dimension is ever present in the KJV N.T. but totally absent in the NIV, NASB, ASV, etc.

9.) The dead are really killers who killeth. They slaughter spirit and Spirit. They are butchers of the KJV N.T. Also they are burying their dead counterparts with their killeth-ing. They are, indeed, 'the dead who bury their dead', at least in a few multidimensional ways. However they would not know this fact.

Their idea of 'the dead burying their dead' is limited to physically grabbing a shovel, digging a hole in the earth and burying a dead person. They have no conception, beyond physical seeing and this informs them and guide their actions. They remain unaware of (or dead to) the totality of what they have actually buried. They are so totally one dimensional.

10.) Only the likes of these one dimensional, 'linearizing' "de-Spiriting" people/creatures will create, as their scriptures, one dimensional works like the NIV, NASB, ASV or any other modern day translations or other presentations of the KJV N.T.. These are simply corruption of the deep, total, multidimensional, rich and spirit/intuitive KJV N.T..

The NIV, NASB, ASV or any other modern day translations or other presentations of the KJV N.T. are 'the fruits of lettered discernment' which killeth. These are on the wrong side, the left side.

My posts reaffirm the spirit and Spirit dimensions of the KJV N.T. and these posts are totally and literally supported by all revelations in the KJV N.T., as they are in the KJV N.T. My posts giveth life. My posts are on the right side.


All we are saying is, leave peace alone.

. . . :readthis: and :chew: on it, then get the :idea: and :).
Be a :sheep: they are on the right side, they go only :1Way: to :cloud9:
Indeed please be a 'right sider' and not a 'left sider'.

. . . hope that you know how to be a 'right sider' (an insider) and not a 'left sider' (an outsider)
. . . it is all in your head and how you use your brain.

. . . if I might say so my self, this is a pretty good post.

Those of us cognizant of spiritual teaching and intuitive insight understand that spiritual things are spiritually discerned...that is a given. However, a KJV-only perspective is short-sighted and verging on idolatry of the 'letter', assuming one 'lettering'(translation/version) as the only inspired one, among other letters. Since the Spirit of God is not limited to language but uses language in its various forms, all forms may serve the Spirit, albeit some better than others.

Bob Jones does a wonderful job showing how the NKJV accentuates and improves the KJV in many passages, but still holds the KJV in respect. See here (http://www.biblefood.com/newkingjamesdefended.html)

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 02:33 PM
JosephR, I have simply quoted the KJV N.T. literally. This cannot be lies. To deny these posts is to deny the Spirit side of the Lord Jesus. The Spirit side of the Lord Jesus conformed to the two thing, one of which is the Holy Ghost. Therefore when one denies these posts one is blaspheming the Holy Spirit . . . this is not forgivable at any place or time.

Also when you deny these posts you are assuming the posture of a false prophet who came in Jesus name. You will inevitably mislead unsuspecting aspiring Christians.

Clearly you take Christianity to carelessly and lightly. You did not realize that the very great majority of those seeking to be Christians will be misled by false prophets as the Lord Jesus warned. You assumed that simply because people (priests etc.) in those churches are repeating Jesus this and Jesus that, they know what they are teaching.

Also you do not seem to believe that "many are called and few chosen". Also you do not seem to believe that "strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it".

You probably naively and wishfully believe your own thing. You probably believe that the billion strong traditional Christians all have it right and are all chosen. A billion people, all sharing the same idea of Christianity cannot be the few who have not been misled by false prophets and who have also found the strait gate and the narrow way and have been chosen. According to the Lord Jesus this is not possible. There is no safety in numbers. On the other hand there is serious risk in numbers. The bigger the following in churches the more at risk are the people.

Indeed any one seeking to be Christan should seek out the few, for only the few are chosen. Simultaneously one should be very interested in finding out the all pervading error or errors that passes for Christianity, in traditional Christianity. Clearly serious corruption of Christianity must prevail in traditional Christianity. Only this can and will cause the very great majority (billions) of their followers to be misled, err and not be chosen.

You should at least be interested in what any set of just a few people has to say about Christianity. Especially if what they say is different from what passes for Christianity every where and is also supported by KJV N.T. revelations.

Running with a whole lot of people or the majority of people, who share the same ideas about Christianity is absolute foolishness (with God). That is to choose certain doom.

Come on get forthright and real, it is for your own good. The first thing that has to go is one's ego. Only then will All Truth be opened onto one. Humble yourself.

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 02:39 PM
Those of us cognizant of spiritual teaching and intuitive insight understand that spiritual things are spiritually discerned...that is a given.

Bob Jones does a wonderful job showing how the NKJV accentuates and improves the KJV in many passages, but still holds the KJV in respect.

I cannot go along with "those of us" Also your statement is not a given. You seem to be begging.

I told you very clearly that I perceive that you are not cognizant of spiritual teaching and intuitive insight understand.

I do not know of 'those others". Those others are free to say what they have to say. This is the nature of forums.

Also your use of "those of us" is suspicious. It tells of your possible inability or fear of standing on your own. This is the ways of only the unawares (the spiritually dead).

When you stand on your judgement day you will not be able to use phrases like: 'Those of us cognizant of spiritual teaching and intuitive insight understand that spiritual things are spiritually discerned". That will only testify to your lettering/legal/lawyer disposition.

Also you would not be able to bring witnesses. Also you would not need to say any such thing. It will be all clear from your actions . . . in the same manner as it is clear here from what you post.

I am satisfy that I have proven that you are not cognizant of spiritual teaching and intuitive insight understand. You are a 'letter man'

Also I am not prepared to go through any human (including your guru or priest) to get to Truth.

The Lord Jesus confirms very clearly that only the Spirit of Truth brings All Truth. His instruction is go to the Spirit of Truth to get All Truth.

He did not say go to Bob Jones to get All Truth. People who go to Bob Jones are clearly not seeking All Truth. They are seeking Bob Jones's lettered discernment. Fact is all lettered discernment killeth.

You are denying the words of the Lord Jesus to give a supposed better version of His words? How utterly foolish.

Your very action confirms your unawareness.

One simply does not rewrite the KJV N.T. Especially to 'improve the KJV in many passages'.

The KJV N.T. need no further explanation, translations or improvement, for one to seek ye first the kingdom of God within. Nor does it need any improvement to seek All Truth from the Spirit of Truth. And only these are the spirit path which giveth life. Everything else, including 'improving the KJV in many passages' is the lettered path with killeth.

You are either foolish or deceptive to the very students that you claim that you want to help.

This makes it totally not expedient for me to move on to any further point with you.

Sorry.


:the_wave:

Gurucam
December 8th, 2015, 06:09 PM
This outlines the obvious Antichrist and pro-Old-Vedic behavior of Freelight.

1.) The spiritual approach which the Lord Jesus introduced is very similar to the Vedic tradition.

. . . and indeed Freelight has a declared Vedic interest.

However Christianity as given by the Lord Jesus, totally by-passes a common aspect of the Vedic tradition. And so improves on the Vedic approach.

Freelight is trying his utmost to introduce this bypassed Vedic element to Christianity.

2.) Under the Vedic tradition, any person who sought spiritual development was required to be apprenticed, under servitude, to a living master. Generally aspirants were required to serve the master for prolong periods before they got even the smallest information. Also only chosen people were allowed to access spiritual development under these masters.

3.) 2000 odd years ago, the Lord Jesus sought to totally open up these limitations. Under the Christian system as developed and run by the Lord Jesus, absolutely no physical master is necessary and no servitude is required.

Everyone who seeks spiritual development and a spirit based life style has free access to the 'not seen' (none physical) impersonal Spirit of Truth which is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

4.) Under the system of the Lord Jesus, one need no other platform, apart from the Spirit of Truth, from which to launch one's spiritual quest. The Spirit of Truth was made available 2000 odd years ago.

With respect to seeking a spiritual life style on earth, the Lord Jesus, in as few words as necessary, instructed, 2000 odd years ago, that wherever one stands, with whatever scriptures one has, it does not matter. It does not matter whether the scriptures are accurate or not. It does not matter whether the scriptures are clear or not.

The Lord confirmed that, with respect to seeking a spiritual life style on earth, no man or mentor or master or translator or improvement in any scriptures is required. In fact the Lord Jesus confirmed that the these are forbidden.

The Lord Jesus confirmed that in order to achieve a spiritual life on earth, one must simply achieve communion with the totally impersonal aspect of Himself, i.e. the Spirit of Truth, intuitively, through one own heart or spirit and that is it. Everything else will be added on.

A student who is not prepared to travel this path cannot be and is not Christian. This is the most sincere and plain truth that any one can give to any student who is seeking to be Christian.

5.) Freelight's introduction of improvement to many passages in the KJV N.T, a la Bob Jones, is Old Vedic. It is also Antichrist. It is Old Vedic and Antichrist only because Freelight is trying to put a man (i.e. a living guide or master) between a Christian aspirant and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. Christianity is anchored solely on live individual and direct communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

Nothing, including no human (with or without an improve KJV N.T) is permitted between an aspiring Christian or an actual Christian and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

An aspiring Christian does not need backward passages or improved passage from the KJV N.T. He requires no passage. He must move directly to seeking ye first the kingdom of God within his own heart then all thing will be added.

6.) No doubt Bob Jones' work can be useful. (I have not seen it.) However, certainly not for a Christian whose total and only source for knowledge and guidance is the Spirit of Truth, through a 'not seen' (none physical) connection through his own spirit.

Seem that Bob Jones' work can be useful for those who cannot and are not seeking a spiritual life style, as a Christian. Bob Jones' work can be useful for those under the commission that was rendered onto Peter. Peter's commission is lettered and law based and not spirit based. Such people cannot be and are not Christians. I am not addressing such people.

I am addressing people who are seeking to embrace the commission that was rendered onto Paul. This is the Lord Jesus spirit and Spirit based commission. Only this is the Lord Jesus' Christian commission.

7.) My perception is that Freelight is no light at all. I perceive that he is a foolish man who seem to believe that he is wise.

I come to this conclusion because Freelight unwittingly believe that he is some how qualified to make the following ruling: "Bob Jones does a wonderful job showing how the NKJV accentuates and improves the KJV in many passages, but still holds the KJV in respect."

Fact is it would take the Lord Jesus to confirm if Bob Jones has improved His words. It amazes me that Freelight can so easily perceive that he can make such a ruling.

Ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case. Q.E.D.

freelight
December 8th, 2015, 07:45 PM
This outlines the obvious Antichrist and pro-Old-Vedic behavior of Freelight.

Nice try, but not quite :)


1.) The spiritual approach which the Lord Jesus introduced is very similar to the Vedic tradition.

. . . and indeed Freelight has a declared Vedic interest.

However Christianity as given by the Lord Jesus, totally by-passes a common aspect of the Vedic tradition. And so improves on the Vedic approach.

Freelight is trying his utmost to introduce this bypassed Vedic element to Christianity.

2.) Under the Vedic tradition, any person who sought spiritual development was required to be apprenticed, under servitude, to a living master. Generally aspirants were required to serve the master for prolong periods before they got even the smallest information. Also only chosen people were allowed to access spiritual development under these masters.

3.) 2000 odd years ago, the Lord Jesus sought to totally open up this limitation. Under the Christian system as developed and run by the Lord Jesus, absolutely no physical master is necessary and no servitude is required.

Everyone who seeks spiritual development and a spirit based life style has free access to the 'not seen' (none physical) impersonal Spirit of Truth which is the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

4.) One need no other platform, apart from the KJV N.T., from which to launch one's spiritual quest.

With respect to seeking a spiritual life style on earth, the Lord Jesus, in as few words as necessary, instructed, 2000 odd years ago, that wherever one stands, with whatever scriptures one has, it does not matter. It does not matter whether the scriptures are accurate or not. It does not matter whether the scriptures are clear or not.

The Lord confirmed that, with respect to seeking a spiritual life style on earth, no man or mentor or master or translator or improvement in any scriptures is required. In fact the Lord Jesus confirmed that the these are forbidden.

The Lord Jesus confirmed that in order to achieve a spiritual life on earth, one must simply achieve communion with the totally impersonal aspect of Himself, i.e. the Spirit of Truth, intuitively, through one own heart or spirit and that is it. Everything else will be added on.

A student who is not prepared to travel this path cannot be and is not Christian. This is the most sincere and plain truth that any one can give to any student who is seeking to be Christian.

My study or interest in eastern religious tradition and metaphysics is universal and all-inclusive, and would naturally be for a true theosophist or gnostic. Also it goes without saying that my theology is based on a spiritualist foundation of the soul's communion and interaction with Spirit.

While Vedic tradition typically includes the guru/disciple relationship, as such an intimate relationship has its special advantage (and still so)....it is not necessary as you simply...Since Spirit is ever available.


5.) Freelight's introduction of improvement to many passages in the KJV N.T, a la Bob Jones, is Old Vedic. It is also Antichrist.

This statement is rather comical. My link to Bob's excellent paper on the improvements of the NKJV translation upon many passages in the old KJV stands...and has nothing to do with anything 'Vedic', much less 'antichrist'. As a fellow spiritualist I'm not following your need to add subtle ad hominems, since we agree on the essentials of spiritual communion and only differ in some aspects of terminology and presentation....which you misrepresent as 'antichrist'. I find such polemics unnecessary.


An aspiring Christian does not need backward passages or improved passage from the KJV N.T. He requires no passage. He must move directly to seeking ye first the kingdom of God within his own heart then all thing will be added.

Then dispense with your KJV bible. See the double standard?

Wisdom demands we use the best manuscripts available and their various translations when studying scripture...hence my recommendation to include and compare all manuscript-traditions under the scope of textual criticism.


6.) No doubt Bob Jones' work can be useful. However, certainly not for a Christian whose total and only source for knowledge and guidance is the Spirit of Truth, through a 'not seen' (none physical) connection through his own spirit.

Seem that Bob Jones' work can be useful for those who cannot and are not seeking a spiritual life style. Like those under the commission that was rendered onto Peter. Such people cannot be and are not Christians. I am not addressing such people.

Your false caricature of Bob is unfounded. Your system is built upon so many presuppositions and your own 'terms' and preconceptions. I think you need to reevaluate some of your predilections.

Gurucam
December 9th, 2015, 02:28 AM
DO you need an accurate knowledge of scriptures? Is this your interest. Then seek ye first the kingdom of God within your own heart or spirit and all things will be added. This is the Spirit path which giveth life.


Jones does a wonderful job showing how the NKJV accentuates and improves the KJV in many passages, but still holds the KJV in respect.

1.) Do not be misled by Freelight. He is offering the letter path which killeth.

If you are seeking to be Christian, seek nothing from others. Go directly to the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of the Lord Jesus through your own heart or spirit. This is the totality of Jesus' message, for aspiring Christians, in the KJV N.T.

(Everything else, i.e. all other deliveries, in the KJV N.T. are 'parables' for 'the dead'. Parables are definitely not at all for aspiring Christians and Christians.)

2.) The instruction to aspiring Christians and Christians are very clear:

Luke 17:21King James Version (KJV)
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

1 Corinthians 2:9
“But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.”

Things that one can physically read and things that one can physically hear are not the things which God has prepared for aspiring Christian and Christians. Those are for others. Those are for 'the dead'. Christians get their stuff privately, directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Truth . . . Not through physically spoken and/or physically written words.

3.) The message is absolutely clear:

Corinthians: 4 KJV N.T.
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

2 Corinthians 3:6 KJV N.T.
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

4.) Do not live an in-firmed life through the study of physically written things. Instead come onto a healthy, wealthy and wise life by adopting adopting and being led by, the Spirit of Truth, as follows:

Rom 8:26 KJV N.T.
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Rom 8:27
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

5.) Click here:

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