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Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 01:54 PM
The very sad and unfortunate predicament of traditional Christians.

The sad predicament of the people who the Lord Jesus sought to help is that they failed to recognize and truly honor him. Indeed they crucified him.

Fact is the Lord Jesus did not come to establish a new or old 'religion'. He came to offer the path to spiritual awakening. He came to establish a spiritual tradition. The Lord Jesus sough to bring these people (who he came among) up to par with those in already existing, old indigenous spiritual traditions whose time has now come onto earth.

God had promised a Spirit to Abraham and his seed. This is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus. God at no time promised a physical, 'seen' and temporal son of man Lord Jesus.

The Lord Jesus sought to help these unfortunate spiritually dead people of that time. He sought 2000 odd years ago, to give them the tools for a fighting change in an earth that was moving to the fullness of time and its accompanying spiritual age (which is now at hand).

For trying to established this Spiritual tradition which is the basis of authentic Christianity, the Lord was totally derailed, undermined-ed, denied, persecuted and blasphemed by the spiritual dead (led by Peter & Co.) whiles he was physically here and for the ensuing 2000 odd years.

Peter was Satan and he, his descendants and associated churches boldly practiced Satanism and anti-Christianity . . . while falsely passing it off as Christianity. They fooled and deceived the masses (billions) who came seeking authentic Christianity. Indeed many were call and the very great majority were misled by false prophets. They therefore err and were not chosen.

The fullness of time is at hand and the high cost of this deception is also at hand. Very soon there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Now too late will be the cry.

read more in post # 2 which follows

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 02:15 PM
continued from post # 1 above.

Peter's Satanic act:

Satanic Peter totally derailed, undermined-ed, denied, persecuted and blasphemed the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus (which is the basis of Paul's commission). And totally replaced him with the physical, 'seen' and temporal son of man Lord Jesus which is the commission for the spiritually dead (this commission was indeed rendered onto Peter).

Peter's commission was solely for the dead who would inevitably bury their counterpart, the dead. Peter's commission was not and is not the Christian tradition. Peter was given to simply practice his commission and leave Paul to separately and independently practice his commission.

Fact is Paul was given to practice both commission (his and Peter's on different kinds of people). However Peter was not at all given to practice Paul's commission (which was spirit based). This offended Peter who being the 'unawares', sought to and did, derail, undermine, deny, persecute, blaspheme and relegate Paul's commission.

Peter was most definitely, not given to derail, undermine, deny, persecute and blaspheme the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus (which is the basis of Paul's commission). However this is exactly what Peter and his descendants did totally and perpetually for all of the past 2000 odd years.

this continues on post # 3 which follows

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 02:17 PM
this is a continuation of post # 2 above

Very early on, the Satanic ideas of Peter set the basis for all traditional Christianity.

This resulted in the very great majority of people in the billions strong traditional Christianity remained totally misled, deceived and denied about the spiritual tradition of the Lord Jesus. They remained with only the physical side of the Lord's teachings. These were and are no real improvement on the already existing failed Mosaic system. They therefore, remained spiritually dead and totally not prepared for the now ensuing spiritual age on earth.

These spiritually dead people are the very great majority of people (all but a few) of those who were called to Christianity. They were grossly misled by Peter & Co. and their all pervading influence on tradition Christianity every where.

The spiritual tradition of the Lord Jesus was intended to prepare and save those people in this newly dawned spiritual age. This is the essential fabric of the commission that was rendered onto Paul some 2000 odd years ago.

This was intended to add a parallel spiritual tradition to run side by side with the Old Mosaic religious (physically oriented) system. This parallel spiritual tradition was exemplified by Paul and also rendered onto only Paul. The Old Mosaic religious system was simply re-hatched and rendered onto Peter.

this continues on the next post # 4

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 02:19 PM
this is a continuation of post # 3 above

Peter was duly identified to be Satan, by the Lord Jesus. However the masses did not recognize this truth from the Lord Jesus. Peter, as Satan, went on to totally deny, undermine, persecute, blaspheme and relegate Paul's spirit and Spirit based commission, from the earliest of days . . . and then through his descendants for all of the past 2000 odd years.

Therefore the billion who came to rely on the Lord Jesus were totally denied the appropriate and adequate preparation. They continued to be totally unprepared for this newly dawned spiritual age.

For all of the past 2000 odd years the very great majority of those called to 'Christianity' have remained as spiritually dead as the masses in the Mosaic tradition of 2000 odd years ago. The Lord Jesus profited them absolutely nothing.

The reality on earth has changed to a spiritual age, under a new alignment of planets and other heavenly bodies. This marks the fullness of time. Now the very great majority of those called to 'Christianity are still spiritually dead and totally unprepared and incapable of continuing to live on earth.

this post continues in post # 7

keypurr
October 9th, 2015, 02:33 PM
Thank you, your post is most interesting.
Not many understand the spiritual things in scripture.

Tambora
October 9th, 2015, 02:35 PM
God at no time promised a physical, 'seen' and temporal son of man Lord Jesus.

John 7 KJV
(42) Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?


Acts 2 KJV
(30) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 02:50 PM
Judgment day is at hand. Those who have esteem traditional Christianity have remained unprepared for the new spiritual age. They were and continue to be, the dead who were buried by their dead counterparts (i.e. Peter & Co. and like others). Now they will be collectively teleported out of earth and into a parallel dark (spiritually dead) world/dimension where they can continue to be loyal to Satan Peter and their 'entangled' Satanic reality.

Since 2008 I have been on this forum teaching truth and reiterating the path to spiritual awakening and spiritual guidance according to teaching of the Lord Jesus as committed onto Paul and clearly and literally recorded in the KJV N.T. I expected only a few to see the light.

Are there any few people, who have come onto truth in these last days, out there in this forum?

glorydaz
October 9th, 2015, 02:52 PM
John 7 KJV
(42) Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?


Acts 2 KJV
(30) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Made quick work of those claims, didn't ya? :thumb:

Tambora
October 9th, 2015, 03:01 PM
Made quick of those claims, didn't ya? :thumb:Easy peasy!

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 03:02 PM
John 7 KJV
(42) Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?


Acts 2 KJV
(30) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;That may all be so however:

The physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus was and is, not at all consequential. He could be blasphemed and one would be forgiven. Jesus walked on earth in this format.

Only the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus is absolutely consequential. Jesus was raised to spirit heaven in this 'Spirit only' format.

Jesus' physical presence on earth was temporary and essentially to confirm His existence as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus. In this Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God format, the Lord resides only in spirit heaven.

In this 'Spirit only' format the Lord Jesus is the pure Son of the Holy Ghost. He is entitled to all things due to the Holy Ghost. He is 'seated' on the right side of the Holy Ghost. There he is ready willing and able to make intercession on behalf of each human with the Holy Ghost. This is the Spirit that was promised to Abraham and his seed by God.

Fact is, Paul did not only blaspheme the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus. He also blasphemed the church (i.e. Peter's church) which the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus established.

Paul was not only forgiven, he also achieved spirit to Spirit communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus. At that time Paul was also given Jesus spirit based Christian commission, by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus. Paul was not only forgiven, he was glorified and rewarded.

Blasphemy of the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus and the church (i.e. Peter's church) which the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus established is a right of passage. This testifies to the lost of spiritual unawareness and the rise of one's spiritual awareness. This earns one the right to totally and completely drop Peter and his church and be privy to Jesus' spirit based Christian commission which was committed onto only Paul.

Matthews: 12 KJV N.T.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.Fact is everyone must achieve and go through this right of passage like Paul in order to be Christian. Paul is our example.

One who has not gone through this right of passage cannot be relevant in the current spiritual age on earth. In fact one cannot live on earth at this time. Such a one is destine to be teleported out of earth's surface and into another dimension which is conformed to his 'spiritually dead' entanglement.

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 03:02 PM
Thank you, your post is most interesting.
Not many understand the spiritual things in scripture.

Thank you kindly.

Gurucam
October 9th, 2015, 05:00 PM
Tambora,

What indeed is the following conveying:
Acts 2 KJV
(30) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

The message is that God had sworn an oath that the Lord Jesus would be brought forth to earth in a physical body that was provided through the lineage of David.

However the Lord Jesus would become a Christian (i.e. one in Christ) and rise to be like an angel in heaven and sit on his throne which is in spirit heaven.

The essence of this is anchored in the promise of the Spirit that was made to Abraham and his seed. This Spirit is the Lord Jesus, risen in His Spirit body and seated on his throne in spirit heaven.


1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Therefore Jesus had two presentations
1.) he was the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus and
2.) he is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus

As it turned the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus is not consequential. This was simply a necessary passage that the Lord Jesus had to take in order to establish the real promise.

The real prize and promise was and is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus who is seated on his throne in spirit heaven.

However some people could not look to things that are 'not seen' and eternal (they were 'the dead'). Instead they foolishly and erroneously took the Lord Jesus in his physical format to be the big deal or the big promise. They were 'the dead' and the Lord simply 'let them be'. He instructed, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

To argue that God promise a physical Lord Jesus is intellectual or lettered discernment which totally killeth the essential message.

Fact is what God oath-ed to David was that one of his descendants will become a Christian (the first Christian from among those people) and he will eventually rise to spirit heaven to be like an angel in heaven, seated on his throne, on the right side of God.

This is the Spirit that was promised by God to Abraham and his seed. This is the Lord Jesus, clad only in his Spirit 'not seen' and eternal Son of God format.

This idea of rising to spirit heaven after death was new thing for those people. This required one to be 'in Christ'. In order for this event to happen, David's descendant could contribute only the egg. The sperm had to come for a more divine source (i.e. one from outside the lineage of David or anyone else among those people).

This child was to be and is the first person from among them (at that part of the world) to actually be brought forth to earth, from spirit heaven and to rise to spirit heaven after death. The lineage of David was given the promise to be first to have this event.

Therefore what do you think was the actual promise made to David.

way 2 go
October 9th, 2015, 05:17 PM
Only the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Lord Jesus is absolutely consequential. Jesus was raised to spirit heaven in this 'Spirit only' format.



Luk_24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."

Buzzword
October 9th, 2015, 05:59 PM
Whole lotta words, no sources.

Especially words devoted to the outdated Gnostic philosophy of "flesh = bad, spirit = good," which parallels the current traditional church's fixation on Plato's "forms" as inherently superior to any real set of beliefs or doctrines...even though no one can agree on the details of the "form" called "Christianity," so we just keep fighting about it.

Lon
October 9th, 2015, 06:25 PM
Fact is the Lord Jesus did not come to establish a new or old 'religion'. He came to offer the path to spiritual awakening. He came to establish a spiritual tradition. The Lord Jesus sough to bring these people (who he came among) up to par with those in already existing, old indigenous spiritual traditions whose time has now come onto earth.

:nono:
Isaiah 43:19

Matthew 7:23

Hebrews 8:11

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 05:32 AM
Luk_24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."

Acts: 1 KJV N.T.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Exactly. Thank you. That was not the body in which the Lord went to heaven. That was simply the body in which he rose up to a cloud and beyond the physical sight of those people.

It was made very clear that the Lord was raised in a spiritual body. It was also clearly confirmed that the Lord had two bodies, one natural or physical and the other spiritual or spirit (see quote below).

The Lord also had and still has, willful, miraculous and arbitrary control and command of both bodies (separately and jointly).

Luke: 24 verse:39 KJV N.T. is simply confirming that the Lord Jesus miraculously recreated His physical body to appease 'spiritually dead' "doubting Thomas-es", like Peter & all those others.

The Lord is quite capable of recreating his old physical body at will. After the Lord went to heaven, in only his spirit body, he returned and recreated his old physical body fro the benifit of spiritually dead' "doubting Thomas-es", like Peter & all those others.

This was only theatrics. This was done to demonstrate the concept of going to heaven after death. This was done by the Lord to aid those people because they were 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead) and therefore could not witness the real event which was purely spiritual.

These people were spiritually dead. Therefore they could not look to things that are 'not seen' and eternal (like Lord Jesus clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God' body).

Therefore the Lord miraculously recreated his old physical body and also made up a physically discernible theatrical presentation of the actual event. In this presentation the Lord rose in his physical body, only into a cloud beyond the physical sight of all those spiritually dead people.

Spiritually dead people, like Peter & Co. etc., would certainly erroneously believe that the Lord rose to heaven in a physical body. However they cannot sell that idea to spiritually aware people. However they were able to sell that idea to billions (of their own 'spiritually dead' kind). This is how they (the dead) was able to bury their own kind (the dead).

Fact is the Lord Jesus went to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God' body. This is clearly confirmed in:

The following was said in reply to the question, in what body did the Lord rise?

1 Corinthians 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

fishrovmen
October 11th, 2015, 05:48 AM
Acts 7:55

bybee
October 11th, 2015, 07:15 AM
this is a continuation of post # 3 above

Peter was duly identified to be Satan, by the Lord Jesus. However the masses did not recognize this truth from the Lord Jesus. Peter, as Satan, went on to totally deny, undermine, persecute, blaspheme and relegate Paul's spirit and Spirit based commission, from the earliest of days . . . and then through his descendants for all of the past 2000 odd years.

Therefore the billion who came to rely on the Lord Jesus were totally denied the appropriate and adequate preparation. They continued to be totally unprepared for this newly dawned spiritual age.

For all of the past 2000 odd years the very great majority of those called to 'Christianity' have remained as spiritually dead as the masses in the Mosaic tradition of 2000 odd years ago. The Lord Jesus profited them absolutely nothing.

The reality on earth has changed to a spiritual age, under a new alignment of planets and other heavenly bodies. This marks the fullness of time. Now the very great majority of those called to 'Christianity are still spiritually dead and totally unprepared and incapable of continuing to live on earth.

this post continues in post # 7

Your point could have been made in a far less wordy posting.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 08:07 AM
Acts 7 KJV N.T.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Moses was not like the disciples and those others.

Indeed Moses was spiritually awaken, spiritually aware and did posses the necessary Gift of the Spirit. This was the gift that Moses got in the mountain.

Then he was able to look steadfastly (i.e. with one pointed focused medication) into heaven (i.e. he was able to look inward, into God's kingdom of heaven that is within his own heart.). That is, when he looked to things that are 'not seen' and eternal.

This enabled Moses to see the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God in God's kingdom of heaven, in spirit heaven . . . which is within his own heart.

God's kingdom of heaven is not outside in or above clouds. God's kingdom of heaven is within one's heart or spirit. This is the 'not seen' quantum field that is within 'seen', gross physical matter. God is now enabling quantum physicists to validate the spirit realm that is within 'seen' physicality.

Act: 7 KJV N.T.
48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

Billions of people who are called to Christianity (but not yet chosen) are a lost and 'foolish clique' who believe that God's kingdom of heaven is without (outside) in or beyond the clouds. They continue to look only to things that are 'seen' (physical) and temporal. They do not look to things that are 'not seen' (spirit or quantum) and eternal.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
This is the curse on the disciples:

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 09:20 AM
Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
The above phenomenon is proven, known and described in Quantum Physics as: 'teleportation' to different 'parallel dimensions' through 'black hole portals', according to 'entanglement', in the fullness of time.

Each black hole portal is entangled with:
1.) the dimension which they open too
2.) the people or entity who opens the portal black hole and
3.) all similarly entangled people, things and circumstances who or which the portal black hole will suck in and teleported into a different dimension.

A black holes is an opening to a different dimension. The specific black hole, the people or entity who opens the black hole, the dimension which the specific black hole opens and the people, things and circumstances which they will 'suck in', to this different dimension are all similarly entangled.
Up to very recently the earth was in a dark, none spiritual age. Recently (seem to be end of Sept. 2015) the earth came into a new age which is anchored in spirit. This is the dawn of the Age of Aquarius and the close of the Age of Pisces on earth. The New Age of Aquarius is anchored on spirituality. The Old Age of Pisces was anchored in physicality.

Now all spiritually dead people, their ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires, aspiration, other things and circumstances cannot be held on earth. They are now totally foreign to the dominating reality on earth. They have become aliens.

These spiritually dead people must be and will be teleported out of earth's surface. They will be teleported out, through a black hole portal, to another parallel dimension. This parallel dimension is entangled with their (continuing) spiritual dead-ness.

This is the fullness of time event described in Luke: 17 verses 34 to 36 KJV N.T. (quoted above) and in other KJV N.T. revelations. Does this have to be made clearer?

The Pope and other similarly entangled 'spiritually dead' world leaders of the Old, know this very clearly. They know and recognize this astrological transformation which has now taken hold of earth.

Now, in a last defiant ditch effort they are running around like crazy ants. They are trying, in vain, to restore their relevance and dominance on earth. They are in a sad time warp, a back in times, time warp. They are all going to be teleported out of here and into a different dimension. This dimension is a "Satanic, spiritually unaware" dimension that is totally in line with their continuing "Satanic, spiritually unaware" entanglement. It is biddy bye-bye for them and all their kind.

This time around there is no 'Noah's ark for them. They are going underground. The Sun will now set, permanently on their empires on earth and also in the under world, their new home. Don't rush to join them. Remember 'angels fear to thread where fools rush in'.

. . . continued in next post # 21, bellow.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 10:07 AM
. . . continued from previous post # 20, above.

Don't you guys find it even a little bit interesting that at this time, modern quantum scientist have scientifically identified, described (in their language) and validated spiritual events predicted in the KJV N.T.?

This is truth being confirmed in terms that every one (even spiritually dead people) can know and accept. This was promised to be the reality in the fullness of time. . . . in the fullness of time, nothing will be hidden, all things will surface for all to know and understand (i.e. in modern and scientific terms).

Don't you guys find it even a little bit interesting that this has all converged around this time, the end of September 2015. At the end of Sept. 2015, through new alignment of the planets and other heavenly bodies, the domination reality on earth moved from physicality to spiritual.

Even our modern 'particle acceleration' scientists, under their own violation, have made and powered up their own physical particle accelerating devise. They will inevitably be obliging the natural flow and current requirement, of creation, by opening an appropriate black hole portal to the under world, so as to expedite this fullness of time event.

The totally physical ideas of Peter is now replaced by the spirit ideas which were committed onto only Paul. The age of Peter has ended and the age of Paul has commenced.

Do you really want to be buried in (teleported into) the depths of earth with Peter & Co. or do you want remain on the surface of earth according to Paul's commission? Heaven will soon be created on earth according to commission which was rendered onto only Paul. The hellish age of Peter is ended.

PureX
October 11th, 2015, 10:27 AM
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Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 11:33 AM
Up to end of Sept. 2015, the surface of earth was entangled with the matrix of Pisces. Pisces is an age of physicality. Physicality has to do with spiritual dead-ness.

Since the end of Sept. 2015, the reality on earth is now entangled with matrix of Aquarius. Aquarius is an age of spirituality. Spirituality has to do with spiritual awareness.

This means that spiritually dead people can no longer be brought forth to earth's surface. They are no longer entangled with the surface of earth (not at all).

Only spiritually aware people can be brought forth to earth's surface. They are now more entangled with the surface of earth.

Also this means that spiritually dead people who were here during the age of Pisces or physicality are no longer entangled with the surface of earth. This means that they are no longer relevant to the surface of earth. They cannot even survive here, far less to rule or dominate as they previously did.

The natural operation of the creation is that it is always conspiring, inevitably, to match people, place, time and thing according to mutual entanglement. This is achieved through teleportation, i.e. by teleporting people and things to perfectly matching dimensions.

There are unlimited dimension, to fit every possible requirement. In fact more and more are being created at every moment, to meet new requirements. This is described as the ever expanding creation.

Our concern is with the reality on surface of earth. This is not fixed. It is very much like humans. It is affected by the planets and other heavenly bodies. Like humans, the surface of earth is always evolving and changing. It's reality at any point in time is suited only to a specific grouping of people.

When the planets and other heavenly bodies, through new alignments, precipitates a new reality on earth's surface, all entities, i.e. all people, things and circumstances on earth are impacted.

Some of these people (who are currently living here) will suddenly become totally alien to the new reality on earth, while other become more relevant to the new reality on earth.

These totally alien ones will no longer be entangled with the surface of earth. In our current scenario, these are the spiritually dead people. They must and will be, teleported out of here. According to the KJV N.T. this will occur as follows: "in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left" or "Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left" or "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.".

While others who were not previously entangled with the surface of earth and therefore were not attracted to the surface of earth would now be drawn too the surface of earth. These are more advanced spiritual beings.

These will now be brought forth to earth. They will come here as a totally new 'breed'.

False Prophet
October 11th, 2015, 11:47 AM
Peter's epistles glorify Jesus Christ and not Satan the devil who leads you away from Jesus Christ.
From Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. 2 Pet 1

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 11:52 AM
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No. The depiction seem wrongly reversed. The suction (of the spiritually dead) will be from the surface of earth to the depths of earth. This will enable children of God (i.e. obedient spiritually aware humans) who are currently on earth and those in spirit heaven, to inherit earth, without children of the flesh (i.e. spiritually dead people) in the fullness of time.

If Peter & Co and their like kind, attempt to fight a battle to keep their relevance and/or rule on earth they have no one in heaven to help them. The ancestors of all their own, all their supporters and all their charges are in the underworld/hell.

Let us face it, Peter & Co. have been sending their charges (who include billions in traditional Christianity) to the underworld for the past 2000 odd years. On this planet, they are the dead who have been burying their dead. Peter & Co. and their direct and indirect followers have no ancestors in Spirit heaven, all are in the under world/hell.

Now our modern 'particle accelerating' scientist will simply accelerate the process, in one big bang. They will open their own unstable black hole to the under world and drag all spiritually dead people into the under world, in a twinkling of an eye.

According to the KJV N.T. this event will occur as follows: "in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left" or "Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left" or "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.".

Matthews: 10 KJV N.T.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword (of separation).
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Jesus' aim was to separate the spiritually dead from the spiritually aware and obedient spiritually aware, in preparation of this September 2015 event.

The prophesy seems to confirm that at least half of the earth's human population will be teleported out of here.

Fact is this teleporting 'out of here' event seen to be the destiny of all who were in any way influenced and/or guided by Peter & Co. and all other people who esteem the O.T. in any form or fashion.

Who will be saved and delivered from this catastrophe? A rough guide is as follows:

The true and authentic New Testament people are in Paul's commission. They are the chosen few from among the billions called to Christianity. These few together with all people, in all old indigenous traditions, who have remained strong to their old indigenous traditions will be saved and delivered from this catastrophe. These old indigenous traditions are all essentially spirit based. Those from these old indigenous traditions, who have remained committed, will be saved and deliver from this catastrophe.

This would define the actual division of earth's population with respect to the saved and delivered and the not saved and not delivered.

The Lord Jesus came among those people to establish a spiritual tradition. His aim was to bring them on par with those old indigenous traditions are all essentially spirit based.

Peter and Co. totally rejected, undermined, denied, persecuted and blasphemed Jesus' spirit commission which was rendered onto onto only Paul. Thereafter billion came to Christianity and followed Peter & Co. and their ideas. Christianity remained without a spiritual dimension.

Judgment day has arrived. God's kingdom of heaven is at hand. Entry into God's kingdom of heaven requires spiritual awareness. Billions who are called Christians are not qualified. They were misled a la Peter & Co. They are now deprived.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 12:01 PM
Peter's epistles glorify Jesus Christ and not Satan the devil who leads you away from Jesus Christ.
From Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ. 2 Pet 1
Are you aware that Peter who was clearly identified by the Lord Jesus as Satan, was given the following commission:

1 Corinthians: 5 KJV N.T.
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Peter had no other or further commission. Peter, on his own, claimed more than he was given.

Peter was never straight or straightforward. In fact, not only did the Lord identify Peter to be Satan, the Lord pointed out Peter's ongoing and expected to continue un-trustworthyness, repeatedly, for every body's (including your) edification.

Yet billions trusted their guidance to Peter and so billions sold their souls to Satan. That is, many (billions) were called to Christianity but only a few were and ever will be chosen.

The very great majority of those called to Christianity, were misled by false prophets (i.e. by Peter & Co and their Satanic doctrines). Therefore they all err and were not chosen. They did not and will not make it.

Soon, too late will be the cry . . . in fact, no, not soon . . . this cry has already started.

Look about you. Peter & Co. are plainly exposed and desperately on the run. They are desperately shuffling the pack (that they are). They are desperately trying to reinvent themselves . . . to no avail. They are over. The reign of Paul's commission is at hand.

This was not created by humans. This was precipitated by planetary alignments. Many spiritually aware humans on earth knew about the approaching spiritual transformation on the surface of earth. They were in continuous self preparation. The followers of Peter & Co. were simply 'dead' to it and deprived.

Peter & Co. are simply trying foolishly, to steal Paul's reign on earth. Fact is they are the old and they must die. There is simply no other way. The Old must die to give way to the new.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 02:22 PM
Your point could have been made in a far less wordy posting.

Things worth getting and knowing must require effort. Nothing casually obtained does much for one.

My writings are for devoted and open seekers. This is how it is given to me and this is how I post them.

One line posts are sad, misleading and possibly egoistic.

Fact is spiritual law confirms that in order to take a message through your subconscious and into your actual attention and then to your open, expanded and free consciousness requires it to be repeated at least three times.

Your own awareness will not take a message seriously (it will not actually reach you) unless it is repeated at least three time.

In fact the only way to get a message transmitted (as a truth) is to have the receiving person transfer more and more of his own available brain neurons to storage of the message in his brain. This is achieved only by repeating and repeating and repeating the message. This is often done innovative-ly.

You have to be committed to get the message, even in my posts. This is the only way that it works.

Your unconscious mind is your automatic mind. It is your default mind. It is your first mind to receive things. When you receive information with this mind you simply accept it if it validates your already existing beliefs. Using this mind you will reject it if it does not conform to your already existing beliefs. And that is that, if you are not reached at your actual attention mind.

One liners are received and dealt with in your sub conscious (or unconscious) mind. This is one's lazy man mind. This is 'the dead' (the spiritually dead) man mind.

Fact is one liners can be interpreted many ways and this suits a lazy man. When one interface with only one's subconscious mind one is bound to interpret a one liner according to one's existing belief. In fact it is easy to do so.

In this way there could be very many people agreeing with a one liner in theory but all having different idea from the one liner. However the individual ideas do not surface. Therefore by operating at this level, it is an easy, effortless, congenial and pleasing. It is also a dead way to interface. One does not learn any thing new from this interfacing.

This is what goes on most traditional Christian churches. This why only a chosen few ever become spiritually aware in those churches. Only 'sheep herding' goes on in those churches. Then parroting of one liners. No (spiritual or other) self actualization occurs in those churches.

Communication is the act of actually getting your full and clear message to a receiver. It is not about having your message casually dealt with on a subconscious level.

Fact is the spiritually dead operates mainly and/or only through his subconscious mind. He remains in oblivion. He is the one line operator.

I am seeking to reach people who operate or are seeking to operate, beyond their subconscious mind. I am seeking to challenge people's automatic receiving and automatic response. I am seeking to challenge one's default beliefs.

Such people seek details and wordy posting. They do not accept and assume that they get the message in a few words. They will seek more and more details. They will appreciate details and wordy posts. Such people want to understand the poster very clearly because they operate from a deeper level and know the absolute inadequacies of written language. They therefore delight in details and more details.

To accept and assume that one gets or can get, the message in or with, few words is really and truly egocentric.

bybee
October 11th, 2015, 02:27 PM
Things worth getting and knowing must require effort. Nothing casually obtain does much for one.

My writings are for devoted and open seekers. This is how it is given to me and this is how I post them.

One line posts are sad, misleading and possibly egoistic.

I'd ask you to consider that you take up a good deal of space.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 04:19 PM
The Lord Jesus came among those people to establish a spiritual tradition. His aim was to bring them on par with those old indigenous traditions are all essentially spirit based.

Peter and Co. totally rejected, undermined, denied, persecuted and blasphemed Jesus' spirit commission which was rendered onto onto only Paul. Thereafter billion came to Christianity and followed Peter & Co. and their ideas. Christianity remained without a spiritual dimension.

Judgment day has arrived. God's kingdom of heaven is at hand. Entry into God's kingdom of heaven requires spiritual awareness. Billions who are called Christians are not qualified. They were misled a la Peter & Co. They are now deprived and denied.

Gurucam
October 11th, 2015, 04:45 PM
I'd ask you to consider that you take up a good deal of space.

O.K.

May I ask that you take up one of my post and show me how to shorten it. I am not asking you to teach me. I am simply asking you to actually demonstrate what you expect.

Why not take me under your wings and guide me by doing an actual example.

The entire teachings of the Lord Jesus suffered because of summarizing and cutting and pasting and leaving out etc.

In fact because the text were so very summarized, it led to millions of Christian churches, where billions are called and the very great majority are misled, ending in few being chosen.

I perceive it to be a grave sin to not deliver truth in the absolutely clearest manner. It is better to not say anything than to say some thing that can be possibly misleading.

I probably did 6000 post here. Clearly some were too very long. I notice that some may have been deleted. I am now recorded as having only 1500 posts. That is O.K. You can cut back some more, if that will help.

I fully understand and accept that you must manage your space. At any event I do not perceive that any thing has been lost. My on going post do cover the things in the Old posts.

By attempting to control and contain my post I will compromise the very intuitive path through which it flows. To deliver my intuitive cognition, untouched is grace and purity it self. Posts are not just words they are vibration. They are transforming vibrations.

I also believe that it is over due for me to make a subscription to this very fine forum. I will do that shortly. I have an intuition that this forum will more than survive, bountifully and eternally.

Seven years is a long time to tolerate me.

This forum can only become increasingly worthy, graceful and absolutely indestructible.

I love and honor you guys. You guys are worth far more than you realize.

Your tolerance and open mindedness are unparalleled. You guy are hearts people. Clearly spiritually aware and relevant.

You must clearly realize that you all were an important part of my past seven years. You provided one of the means for my meditation, i.e. for my transcendence and direct personalized communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. And I provided you, first hand, what I perceived to be the purest of truth.

We are now delivered into the fullness of time. This is a very big deal. There is still time for transformation. In fact, now there is lots more Grace simply just 'blowing in the wind', every where.

You will notice increasing 'loving-ness' and 'caring-ness' and 'pleasantness' from a more profound and deeper level, among more and more people. This will happen every where including at service centers every where.

This will exponentially accelerate and increase individual human transformation to spiritual awareness and spiritual actualization. Humans will be made angels in physical bodies on earth.

It is beautiful time to be on earth and to be counted. Magic will fill your lives. Your lives will become naturally and spontaneously, increasingly and sneak-ly stress-less and fulfilling. It will be mind blowing i.e. if you pause to dwell on your blissful existence which you will simply enjoy with out realizing it.

Give it ten years, no more, for this exponentially growing reality to reach its full bloom plateau which will last a least 2000 further years.

By the way, now, self healing, reversal of agings and longevity will also all be pushed up naturally and spontaneously and exponentially.

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 01:27 PM
Are you privy to the Spiritual tradition of the Lord Jesus (i.e. Paul's commission) and therefore 'chosen'? Or are you stuck in the 'dead' church of the Lord Jesus (Peter's commission) and therefore, 'not chosen'?

Matthews: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Are you among the dead who bury their dead or are you among those who follow the Lord. These are and always were the two choices.

Were you denied this information? Have all your immediate families, relatives and friend been burred by dead/Satanic leaders? Are you in a church run and/or influenced by Peter & Co.? Will you be buried by your dead/Satanic leaders?:

1.) The Spiritual/heavenly tradition of the Lord Jesus was committed onto only Paul. This is only for spiritually aware people. In this church people differ in no way from the Lord Jesus. When they die they rise in three days to be like angels in heaven. The dead relatives of these people were all sent to spirit heaven when they died. This is how Paul's people live.

2.) The earthly/dead/religious church of the Lord Jesus was committed on to Peter. This is only for the dead, i.e. the spiritually dead).

The dead are sent to Peter so that their spirits might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus (re. 1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5).

All people, in the church of Peter & Co and all churches influenced by them, are in the same position. When they die they are all buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies. None have ever risen to heaven. Here the dead (Peter & Co.) bury their dead (their followers). Some are buried for as long as 2000 odd years. All are still inside the earth in hell. This is how Peter's people live.

To be saved, delivered and be relevant on earth now, in the fullness of time, you must totally dismiss, run away from and drop Peter's & his ideas and church. They are all Satanic (the Lord warned you about this fact). Then you must come whole heartedly into the way of Paul. This is how Paul's people live:

see the next post # 32, for Paul's tradition as confirmed literally by revelations in the KJV N.T.

Gurucam
October 12th, 2015, 03:07 PM
from post # 31 above.

Paul's tradition is purely spirit and Spirit based. Paul's tradition is righteousness of God that is without the law (re. Romans: 3 verse: 21 KJV N.T.). It is about actions without regard for the Ten Commandments. It is about God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. (Were you told that this is possible?)

This is the essence of Paul tradition, it involves meditation:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts (i.e. meditate) knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Are you led by the the things which urges your heart which you cannot utter (i.e. which are forbidden under the law). Are you led to do these things in accordance with the will of God?

Under this system you have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the Ten Commandments and get no sin but instead be glorified by God. Do you transgress the law so as to do the things in your heart which you cannot utter? Being led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is how to do this and not get sin but instead be glorified by God.

You have to search your heart, i.e. meditate, so a to find out precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do. And then be led unconditionally, into all your works by only this, even if you have to transgress the law.

This is how to be led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus/Spirit of Intercession and so become a 'child of God' i.e. a Christian. This is the only way to follow the Lord Jesus (in the regeneration) and so be saved and delivered and become a child of God and a Christian.

Where is the magic, you might ask? The magic or miracle is that precisely what the Spirit of the Lord Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within your own heart, through meditation, is a perfect amalgam of the two best things. This is a perfect amalgam of 1.) the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration that are the fabric of your own heart or spirit and 2.) the will of God.

Therefore when you are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, in the above manner, you simultaneously express and fulfill the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration of you own private heart or spirit, in perfect magical and miraculous harmony with the will of God. It cannot be more perfect. This is life in heaven.

Now you have to and must, live in the above manner on earth, in order remain and survive on the surface of earth, in this New Spiritual Age of Aquarius.

The surface of earth has left the physicality age of Pisces and entered the Spiritual Age of Aquarius, since the end of Sept. 2015. Inside the depths of earth, where Peter & Co. have buried billions, is another matter. There remains very dark and lost.

The tradition of Paul is the New Age reality. This now dominates and rules on earth. Peter & Co. and their followers are totally out. Paul's tradition is confirmed literally by the above revelations in the KJV N.T. Are you on board or are you lost in the wilderness? Will you remain here or will you be teleported out of here? This is the question.

Sherman
October 13th, 2015, 09:42 AM
You started another thread on this subject, so I am closing this one. Please do not make multiple threads on the same topic.