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Ben Masada
October 6th, 2015, 01:43 PM
Impersonation of God's Attributes - Genesis 1:26

"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over... the whole earth."

The above passage of Genesis has been for years the trump card in the hands of Trinitarians to drop at the right time in the assumed thought that it will guarantee them to clean up the table, so to speak. Well, let them think again, because I have news. It's no longer that easy.

Elohim is incorporeal, and incorporeality reflects no image. But then again, how to harmonize the use of the pronouns in the plural form? The attributes of God, which are parts of His essence, were personally involved in the formation of man.

Bear in mind that only in the creation of man was the statement issued: To make man at God's image. Since God has no visible image, and man does, it's only obvious that man's image would be according to God's attributes. Therefore, His attributes in a relative portion, were the active agent in the formation of man.

Now, it's imperative to focus on the pronouns used by the sacred writer, since the pronouns are anyways what Trinitarians use to think they have made their day. "Let US make MAN in OUR image and likeness. And let THEM have dominion over everything on earth."

Now, focus on the word MAN. It is in the singular form. Nevertheless, the purpose is for THEM to dominate the earth. If THEM were a reference to man, a clarification would be in order to explain the discrepancy in the Grammar. I mean, that it would be a reference to all men. This lack of clarification was not a lapse of the author, but intentional will to direct our minds to the attributes of God, which took part in the formation of man.

It's interesting and just convenient for Trinitarians to rapidly refer "us" and "our" to God Himself and hide any word of explanation on the plural pronoun "them," which could not be a reference to man. I hope they do not do this on purpose because it would be spiritual cruelty to hide the truth.

I hope we have settled this issue. Since "them" is not a reference to man but to the attributes of God, it's only obvious that "us" and "our" are not references to God Himself but to His attributes. Therefore, the Creator of the Universe is He Who has dominion over the whole of the Universe through man by way of His attributes.

Conclusion:

It's more than obvious that Israel could not uphold the banner of absolute Monotheism in God, and start the Scriptures with statements of plurality in God. The whole issue therefore, was personification of attributes.

RBBI
October 6th, 2015, 01:56 PM
"Them" as in, male and female created He THEM, means they both, Adam and Eve, were created male/spirit, and soul/female.

Which corresponds to the "our" image, since He is both male and female, as one, which produced a Seed Son, who dwelt in the man Yeshua. Every seed bears fruit after it's own kind. Peace

Ben Masada
October 6th, 2015, 02:28 PM
"Them" as in, male and female created He THEM, means they both, Adam and Eve, were created male/spirit, and soul/female.

Which corresponds to the "our" image, since He is both male and female, as one, which produced a Seed Son, who dwelt in the man Yeshua. Every seed bears fruit after it's own kind. Peace

Sorry RBBI but this Theology above has nothing Jewish about it. Therefore, there is nothing to do with Jesus.

Ktoyou
October 6th, 2015, 02:31 PM
It sounds like Islam

RBBI
October 6th, 2015, 09:30 PM
Sorry RBBI but this Theology above has nothing Jewish about it. Therefore, there is nothing to do with Jesus.

Well, that's a shame since it came out of the Torah.....Peace

RBBI
October 6th, 2015, 09:31 PM
It sounds like Islam

Are you really that foolish or just trying to pick?

Ben Masada
October 7th, 2015, 10:53 AM
Well, that's a shame since it came out of the Torah.....Peace

Quote, please!

Ben Masada
October 7th, 2015, 10:55 AM
It sounds like Islam

You ain't kidding Ktoyou!

RBBI
October 7th, 2015, 07:51 PM
PUH-leaassee......Islam? Really, guys? It's a plus you know nothing about Islam, but saddens me you know nothing about the soul and the spirit. Do a study on them.....we ARE spirit, soul and body, after all, made in their image. Peace

Ben Masada
October 9th, 2015, 12:12 PM
PUH-leaassee......Islam? Really, guys? It's a plus you know nothing about Islam, but saddens me you know nothing about the soul and the spirit. Do a study on them.....we ARE spirit, soul and body, after all, made in their image. Peace

Since you seem to want to tell the whole world that you have studied about spirit, soul and body, do us a favor and quote the Tanach where I can read that we are spirit, soul and body. In the meantime, according to Gen. 2:7, when the Lord formed man from the dust of the earth, He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. To become is to be and not have. We are souls. The soul is composed of body and breath of life. Spirit is just a concept used to embellish some one or some thing with spiritual credibility.

RBBI
October 11th, 2015, 01:22 PM
Tell ya what you do......look up the words for spirit and soul, then get back to me. Peace

Livelystone
October 11th, 2015, 02:48 PM
"Them" as in, male and female created He THEM, means they both, Adam and Eve, were created male/spirit, and soul/female.

Which corresponds to the "our" image, since He is both male and female, as one, which produced a Seed Son, who dwelt in the man Yeshua. Every seed bears fruit after it's own kind. Peace

This ^^^^^^^

Livelystone
October 11th, 2015, 02:54 PM
Since you seem to want to tell the whole world that you have studied about spirit, soul and body, do us a favor and quote the Tanach where I can read that we are spirit, soul and body. In the meantime, according to Gen. 2:7, when the Lord formed man from the dust of the earth, He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. To become is to be and not have. We are souls. The soul is composed of body and breath of life. Spirit is just a concept used to embellish some one or some thing with spiritual credibility.

Hmmm ......... you should have already known this

However,

Is God not a Spirit?

Next.........

How about you do a search on all of the times "my soul" appears in the Tanach, and see how many of those times it is referring to the soul (essentially the mind but also emotions and will) of God?

Two or more times with no witness proven false counts as a witness to the truth according to your law........... Amen? I think so

Ben Masada
October 14th, 2015, 11:55 AM
Tell ya what you do......look up the words for spirit and soul, then get back to me. Peace

And I tell ya what to do. Just read Gen. 2:7 and you won't even need to look up the words for spirit and soul, then get back to me.

Ben Masada
October 17th, 2015, 02:02 PM
Hmmm ......... you should have already known this

However,

Is God not a Spirit?

Next.........

How about you do a search on all of the times "my soul" appears in the Tanach, and see how many of those times it is referring to the soul (essentially the mind but also emotions and will) of God?

Two or more times with no witness proven false counts as a witness to the truth according to your law........... Amen? I think so

That's called pious expressions of anthropomorphism with the wish-thinking of a personal and physical approach with HaShem. The Lord as Jesus said, is a Spirit if you read John 4:24; and spirits are not corporeal beings. Hence, they are not moved by emotions.