PDA

View Full Version : Why God Does NOT Create Robots and Puppets



Robert Pate
October 1st, 2015, 08:15 PM
If God created robots and puppets he would be responsible for them and the sins that they do. God is NOT responsible for the sins and the mistakes of humanity. We are responsible for our own actions, sins, mistakes and decisions, not God. We are NOT robots or puppets. We are free will individuals that determine our future by what we say and do. "Choose this day whom you will serve".

Calvinism is nothing but a ploy to make God responsible for the sins of humanity. If God predestinates some to salvation and the rest to eternal damnation then God is unjust. What kind of a God would do such a thing as that? Most certainly not the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible is... "Not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter 3:9.

The God of the Bible..."So loves the world that he gives his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16. The God of Calvinism is a cruel, mean, unmerciful, unjust, unrighteous tyrant, that delights in sending people to hell. Who can have faith in this kind of a God?

It is NOT possible to have faith or to believe in the God of Calvinism. You might be better off to believe in no God at all than to blasphemy him and his Son Jesus Christ with all of the false doctrines of Calvinism.

There is nothing in the Bible that supports Calvinism. There is not one scripture about anyone being predestinated to heaven or to hell, nor is there one scripture that says that Jesus only made a limited atonement. There are hundreds of scriptures and words that say salvation is by grace through faith.

Robert Pate
October 3rd, 2015, 07:56 AM
No, we are not robots or puppets.

Man is the crown of God's creation. God gave Adam a free will so that Adam could sin against his creator if he so desired. Adam was a free agent with no strings attached. God could have created Adam without the ability to sin, but he didn't. In order for God's creation to be truly human he had to have the ability to sin against his creator.

There is no glory for God if all that he can create is robots and puppets. Robots and puppets can be programed to do almost anything that the programer wants them to do. But God creates this man that acts and does as he pleases, with no strings attached.

God gave Adam and Eve a warning that there would be consequences if they sinned against him, but they apparently thought that God would let them off. They found out that God keeps his word.

musterion
October 3rd, 2015, 08:10 AM
I suspect that fatalism-driven Christendom was designed to appeal to those who won't take full responsibility for themselves before God and so extend that puppetry to all mankind (the self-elected Reformed types), or those who refuse to accept that much of our race will end up in the Lake of Fire and so convince themselves that in the end, all MUST be saved (the universalist types). Both types are equally fate-driven, just from different ends of the same spectrum.

False Prophet
October 3rd, 2015, 08:14 AM
Satan challenged God about Job. He loves you because you have built up a hedge of protection around him. Take away all he has, and see if he does not curse you to your face!
Job did not turn away from God even though Satan covered him with boils from his head to toe, and his friends tried to persuade him that he had sinned against God.
God is seeking those who worship him.

Robert Pate
October 3rd, 2015, 04:12 PM
Satan challenged God about Job. He loves you because you have built up a hedge of protection around him. Take away all he has, and see if he does not curse you to your face!
Job did not turn away from God even though Satan covered him with boils from his head to toe, and his friends tried to persuade him that he had sinned against God.
God is seeking those who worship him.


The book of Job is a wonderful book.

What it is basically saying is that the... "Just Shall Live by Faith" even when the roof falls down on your head.

glorydaz
October 3rd, 2015, 05:31 PM
The book of Job is a wonderful book.

What it is basically saying is that the... "Just Shall Live by Faith" even when the roof falls down on your head.

:thumb:

patrick jane
October 3rd, 2015, 05:37 PM
I suspect that fatalism-driven Christendom was designed to appeal to those who won't take full responsibility for themselves before God and so extend that puppetry to all mankind (the self-elected Reformed types), or those who refuse to accept that much of our race will end up in the Lake of Fire and so convince themselves that in the end, all MUST be saved (the universalist types). Both types are equally fate-driven, just from different ends of the same spectrum.

well written (put)

Robert Pate
October 5th, 2015, 02:42 PM
I suspect that fatalism-driven Christendom was designed to appeal to those who won't take full responsibility for themselves before God and so extend that puppetry to all mankind (the self-elected Reformed types), or those who refuse to accept that much of our race will end up in the Lake of Fire and so convince themselves that in the end, all MUST be saved (the universalist types). Both types are equally fate-driven, just from different ends of the same spectrum.

Right!

Jesus said, "Strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which leads to eternal life and few there be that find it" Matthew 7:14.

The strait gate is Jesus, that is why few there be that find it. What they find is the broadway (religion) which leads to destruction.