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Grosnick Marowbe
July 6th, 2015, 12:08 PM
My favorite happens to be,"The New King James Bible." The Old
King James Bible used to be my favorite. (I still use it occasionally)

I grew up using the Old King James Bible and the New American
Standard Bible from 1962 on. I changed over to the NKJB in 2008.

What's your preference?

chrysostom
July 6th, 2015, 12:11 PM
nab
it has the word test
you won't find this in yours

daniel 12:10 nab (http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PSX.HTM)
Many shall be refined, purified, and tested, but the wicked shall prove wicked; none of them shall have understanding, but the wise shall have it.

steko
July 6th, 2015, 12:16 PM
My favorite happens to be,"The New King James Bible." The Old
King James Bible used to be my favorite. (I still use it occasionally)

I grew up using the Old King James Bible and the New American
Standard Bible from 1962 on. I changed over to the NKJB in 2008.

What's your preference?

The KJV.

CabinetMaker
July 6th, 2015, 01:08 PM
My NIV.

Robert Pate
July 6th, 2015, 01:20 PM
My favorite happens to be,"The New King James Bible." The Old
King James Bible used to be my favorite. (I still use it occasionally)

I grew up using the Old King James Bible and the New American
Standard Bible from 1962 on. I changed over to the NKJB in 2008.

What's your preference?


I didn't know there was a new KJB. I will have to check it out.

My American Standard Bible is collecting dust where it sits on the shelf. I use a KJ study Bible. It has a lot of notes in it, but not all are correct.

I have learned to try everything in the light of the Historical Gospel of Jesus Christ.

brinny
July 6th, 2015, 02:36 PM
The KJV.

Is there any other? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4chsmu1.gif

swanca99
July 6th, 2015, 06:19 PM
The KJV is my favorite for reading, but I teach/preach out of the NKJV.

When I'm studying a passage, I consult several - I have copies of most of the major translations.

Dan Emanuel
July 7th, 2015, 09:31 AM
N.A.B.R.E. and the A.V.


Daniel

musterion
July 7th, 2015, 09:35 AM
KJV
ASV 1901
HCSB
NASB (original)
Berkeley/MLB
Weymouth
Darby
Wuest
Young's Literal
and others

HisServant
July 7th, 2015, 09:49 AM
ESV for now.

Danoh
July 7th, 2015, 10:42 AM
KJV only even though I do not see myself as KJV only. Go figure, lol

And, while I don't mind cross references; I prefer simply spending time walking its neighborhood (time just reading Scripture).

That; later, when I find myself in need of an answer to one thing, or another, I know "where the stores are," so to speak.

CherubRam
July 7th, 2015, 11:31 AM
I make use of all translations, but most of all I use my NIV / KJV Study Bible. If there is going to be a translation issue, it shows up there most of the time. I also have the http://www.scripture4all.org/ program. And here: http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm It is free and very useful. And Codex Sinaiticus http://codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx

CherubRam
July 7th, 2015, 11:41 AM
Study tools and links.

e-Sword study program. http://www.e-sword.net/downloads.html/
Scripture 4 All program. http://www.scripture4all.org/download/download_ISA20.php
Many Books http://manybooks.net/
Biblos dot com http://biblos.com/
Library of Ancient Text. http://sites.google.com/site/ancienttexts/
Bible Gateway www.biblegateway.com/
Codex Sinaiticus. http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx
Scripture for all. http://www.scripture4all.org/
Concordance. http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html
Olive Tree bibles. http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm
Google Translate. http://translate.google.com/#auto|iw|
Strongs Greek Hebrew Concordance: http://concordances.org/
Jewish Studies: http://jewishstudies.rutgers.edu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=121&Itemid=158
Ancient Hebrew: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/26_home.html
Hebrew language: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Hebrew_language
Hebrew Bible www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm
Hebrew to English www.milon.co.il/general/general.php
Reference www.reference.com/
Art Scroll http://www.artscroll.com/stonechumash.html
Jew Facts http://www.jewfaq.org/index.htm
Jewish learning http://www.myjewishlearning.com/index.htm
About Judaism http://www.simpletoremember.com/
Getdocs http://www.getdocs.com/

republicanchick
July 9th, 2015, 04:44 PM
Douay Rheims because it is the most true to the ORIGINAL languages

It is a word-4-word translation from the Latin and the Latin version is a word-4-word translation from the original languages spoken by Christ (Aramaic/Hebrew)




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Bright Raven
July 9th, 2015, 05:05 PM
KJV and NASB

12jtartar
July 10th, 2015, 05:38 AM
Grosnick Marowbe,
I also love The KJV, but I like the Newer Modern KJV, because it puts back into the Holy Scriptures, God's Personal, Proper Name, Jehovah.
The reason I believe this is better, is because most Bibles continue with the, I believe the wrong process used, of substituting the Titles LORD, or GOD, in all capital letters, where The Hebrew YHWH, which was in the Original Autographs. YHWH was the Hebrew word for the Proper Name of God, and it was in the Original Autographs of Bible books over 7,000 times.
I believe that anyone who purposely removes God's Proper Name from His own book has committed an enormous sin, and will be judged by Jehovah God, The Almighty.
Agape!!!

Nick M
July 10th, 2015, 06:13 AM
The Darby/Bullinger 1989 edition.

Tambora
July 10th, 2015, 09:09 AM
KJV

Psalmist
July 10th, 2015, 09:23 AM
NKJV
RSV (REV 1974)
NASB
KJV for the nursing home
ASV 1901
RSV 1881-1885

Nanja
July 10th, 2015, 09:25 AM
KJV
YLT
LITV
INTERLINEAR
...and others.

My first Bible was NIV,
Second was KJV - AMP Parallel Bible
Currently study from KJV.

~~~~~

Hawkins
July 10th, 2015, 09:44 AM
There are actually 2 streams, the KJV stream and the NIV stream.

I think that today's scholars are adapting a wrong approach in dealing with the translations. They care too much about the correctness of wordings and grammars, which will only lead to more errors.

The KJV stream is based off a church (in Greece) conservation of the Scripture. The NIV stream is based off 2 ancient artifacts dated as written in the 4th century. These two copies themselves are actually not so well written and with numerous errors as they are more like the copies of copies and may not be the same Scripture used for the NT canonization in the 3rd century.

There are obvious deviations (in terms of contexts) between the two streams, both may not be what is originally used for the canonization. However, theologically they are consistently the same. God makes His Word perfect through the imperfection of humans who may failed to conserve what is considered original.

That's actually why I said that it could be completely meaningless to over-emphasize the correctness of the Greek wording and grammar as both streams may not be something "originally" textually speaking. It is perfect only when you choose to rely on God the Holy Spirit to do the translation, or more importantly to read the meaning out whether the texts are grammatically and correctly put or not.


By far I am talking about the NT in Greek. The OT is less of a problem as the Jews made it well conserved.

musterion
July 10th, 2015, 09:59 AM
It is perfect only when you choose to rely on God the Holy Spirit to do the translation

So you can just read the Greek and not own one English translation, because God the Holy Spirit will translate it for you?

SaulToPaul
July 10th, 2015, 10:01 AM
My favorite happens to be,"The New King James Bible." The Old
King James Bible used to be my favorite. (I still use it occasionally)

I grew up using the Old King James Bible and the New American
Standard Bible from 1962 on. I changed over to the NKJB in 2008.

What's your preference?

I like the New International Neapolitan Version.

NKJV, ESV, and NIV rotating every 3 chapters.

musterion
July 10th, 2015, 10:20 AM
Someone: I use the KJV.

Tet: So do I.

Someone: Yeah, it's a great translation.

Tet: Indeed it is.

Someone: Mine also has the Scofield notes.

Tet: THAT'S THE DEVIL'S BIBLE!

SaulToPaul
July 10th, 2015, 10:27 AM
Me: I believe every word of the King James Bible, even if I don't understand it.


Someone: which version (edition)?

:doh:

CabinetMaker
July 10th, 2015, 10:37 AM
Me: I believe every word of the King James Bible, even if I don't understand it.


Someone: which version (edition)?

:doh:
It is a fair question. There are many version since the 1611 version was first published. The most common version is use today is the standard version from 1769. And there have been changes to the text in each edition.

SaulToPaul
July 10th, 2015, 10:40 AM
It is a fair question. There are many version since the 1611 version was first published. The most common version is use today is the standard version from 1769. And there have been changes to the text in each edition.

Edition is correct, not version.

Spelling and punctuation changes, yes.

musterion
July 10th, 2015, 10:48 AM
There's still the issue with "coney" and "fetch a compass" which no one right off the street would correctly understand without consulting an commentary or dictionary. Have them read it for the first time and they'll assume the Bible speaks of magnetic compasses and chili dogs.

Still, the KJ is at the top of my list.

SaulToPaul
July 10th, 2015, 10:53 AM
There's still the issue with "coney" and "fetch a compass" which no one right off the street would correctly understand without consulting an commentary or dictionary. Have them read it for the first time and they'll assume the Bible speaks of magnetic compasses and chili dogs.

Still, the KJ is at the top of my list.

How about

Gen 24:64(KJV)

:D

musterion
July 10th, 2015, 10:54 AM
I can't comment on that, I only vape.

CabinetMaker
July 10th, 2015, 11:01 AM
Edition is correct, not version.

Spelling and punctuation changes, yes.
So if they change spelling and punctuation, which edition is actually perfect and inerrant?

Hawkins
July 10th, 2015, 11:30 AM
So you can just read the Greek and not own one English translation, because God the Holy Spirit will translate it for you?

No that's not what I meant to say. It's those who do the translations should pay more attention to what God is trying to say instead of focusing on what is grammatically correct.

It is the same to the readers (of all kinds of translations), they should read what God means to say (by the guiding of the Holy Spirit) instead of focusing on what is grammatically correct in the Greek language.

That's what I meant to say.

musterion
July 10th, 2015, 06:52 PM
No that's not what I meant to say. It's those who do the translations should pay more attention to what God is trying to say instead of focusing on what is grammatically correct.

It is the same to the readers (of all kinds of translations), they should read what God means to say (by the guiding of the Holy Spirit) instead of focusing on what is grammatically correct in the Greek language.

But...

Nevermind.

swanca99
July 11th, 2015, 01:06 AM
Douay Rheims because it is the most true to the ORIGINAL languages

It is a word-4-word translation from the Latin and the Latin version is a word-4-word translation from the original languages spoken by Christ (Aramaic/Hebrew)

In addition:

"Diligently compared with the Hebrew, Greek, and other editions in divers languages."

It is my favorite Catholic translation, and since it is the translation that I heard from the pulpit as a child, may be the reason why I found the KJV so appealing when I got saved.

I also have copies of the NAB (The Catholic Study Bible, Second Edition), the Jerusalem Bible and the New Jerusalem Bible. I like the way that the NAB includes the Deuterocanonical portions of Esther in their chronological place.

12jtartar
January 7th, 2016, 12:03 PM
SaulToPaul,
I have found, over the years of study, that it is best to have many different translations of the Bible. This is because Bible translators use different words and change the places in the scriptures where words are,
and it make it difficult to get the full sense of God's message.
Almost ever modern Bible is accurate, and there are a few mistakes in all Bibles, but the mistakes are not in the same place in all Bibles. So they are easily found by a comparison of translations.
There are several different apps that are free, that can be downloaded from the Internet, that gives you many different Bibles to compare. One is Bible Hub.com, another 65&67 Bibles. I believe the best program on the Internet is OliveTree.com. Once this is downloaded you can use it offline, very handy!!!

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 12:09 PM
The King James near 100% of the time, having found that, over the years, you get to know all the old words in modern English from other translations, translate in my head as I read, and, believing the King James a wonderful, trustworthy Bible over the generations, used by many great theologians, I feel comfortable I'm getting the unmolested word of God. But I'm not knocking other good, conservative translations, especially like the NASB. I think some modern translations yield better meaning, understanding, in modern terms, involving some explicit verses, also. But the word of God can be powerful, even in a Sunday school book, many people initially saved by paraphrases they can more clearly understand.

theophilus
January 7th, 2016, 12:16 PM
I carry the NASB but most memory work is from the KJV. Sometimes the language in the KJV is more expressive and to the point.

heir
January 7th, 2016, 12:23 PM
I like the New International Neapolitan Version. I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 12:25 PM
I carry the NASB but most memory work is from the KJV. Sometimes the language in the KJV is more expressive and to the point.

I've also found this true, excellent way you put it, the KJV being more expressive and to the point. It's a marvelous Bible, smoothly poetic so many places, yet so concise, to the point, so much done, with so few words, an amazing linguistic work. I've always believed scripture proves the mind of God behind it, as nobody else could write a whole book that way, just in ingenious beauty of style and compaction of words, at the same time. You'd think that, being poetic, would mean adulteration, verbose to create such an effect, but even a good Bible like the NASB doesn't sound quite right sometimes, though it says the same thing, but can be choppy, not as sublimely smooth and beautiful. Anyway, you may have guessed I love the KJV!

Would like to add something, having heard from scholars over the years on this. I so wish I'd learned Hebrew, but am also pretty bad at foreign languages, not much of modern language education sticking. (Even once bought a Hebrew language cassettes course that didn't work for me.) But it's said the Old Testament in Hebrew has an entire world of deeper meaning in Hebrew, including humor that doesn't carry over in other languages, obscure references with deeper meaning that don't carry over, sometimes getting down to the likes of jots and tittles, incredible genius in the Lord's use of Hebrew.

heir
January 7th, 2016, 12:27 PM
SaulToPaul,
I have found, over the years of study, that it is best to have many different translations of the Bible. I'm not sure how that is helpful, but a hindrance as they don't all say the same thing.

heir
January 7th, 2016, 12:28 PM
So you "use" this or that "version", but which one do you believe every word of? That is the question. I believe every word of the KJB.

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 12:42 PM
So you "use" this or that "version", but which one do you believe every word of? That is the question. I believe every word of the KJB.

Me, too. Not to mention any other versions, in the interest of not goring anybody's ox here, anyway, but a comparative study of translations can yield some shocking and unacceptable alterations, some versions way too many of these. The next closest trust I can find is the NASB, from evaluating these things. Some of the translations that differ quite a bit too much I find only good for certain verses that expand the understanding a little, or when trying to present truth by some verses or passages to a modern audience not Bible versed, but will not just read and study from them.

theophilus
January 7th, 2016, 12:54 PM
Would like to add something, having heard from scholars over the years on this. I so wish I'd learned Hebrew, but am also pretty bad at foreign languages, not much of modern language education sticking. (Even once bought a Hebrew language cassettes course that didn't work for me.) But it's said the Old Testament in Hebrew has an entire world of deeper meaning in Hebrew, including humor that doesn't carry over in other languages, obscure references with deeper meaning that don't carry over, sometimes getting down to the likes of jots and tittles, incredible genius in the Lord's use of Hebrew.

Same story for the New Testament and Koine Greek.

We certainly lose some things (nuances, phrase turns, etc...) in our translations.

Caino
January 7th, 2016, 01:04 PM
Elijah is my favorite translation in the Bible.

theophilus
January 7th, 2016, 01:10 PM
Elijah is my favorite translation in the Bible.

A chariot of fire...

...good translation!

:)

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 01:14 PM
Same story for the New Testament and Koine Greek.

We certainly lose some things (nuances, phrase turns, etc...) in our translations.

Yes, words that don't even move over, like the proverbial multiplicity of Greek words for love. A little off topic, having learned something of the Greek, though, I realized I'd never be good at it, and something cautionary occurred to me, that I could never do better a translation than an entire panel of real Greek scholars. You see the Greek abused, by people who wish to alter the meaning to fit their doctrines or exegesis. Just an aside that came to mind I thought I'd mention, that people need to be wary of anybody finding different meanings in the Greek. Often times they're using one of the word definitions that doesn't really fit the context that true scholars saw in a reliable Bible translation. I've many times had to debunk some new claims made of the Greek by some preachers.

theophilus
January 7th, 2016, 01:39 PM
by some preachers.

There's always "them."

:)

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 02:41 PM
There's always "them."

:)

Ain't that a fact. It can be amusing. You sometimes run into somebody online who says something like, "WELL, I LIKE TO READ THE BIBLE IN GREEK." Often, you can just hear it in all caps, as it's usually somebody who also has a special way of putting on their pants, private, never before heard of interpretations English Bibles of the peonage lack, what is it, "a legend in their own mind?" At the same time, the English of their posts may as well be in a plastic bag labelled "shredded." Logic the likes of, "I'm better than forty Greek scholars," has always escaped me.

theophilus
January 7th, 2016, 02:44 PM
"I'm better than forty Greek scholars," has always escaped me.

Ya know...I keep trying to tell the JW's that about Charles Taze Russell. They just don't listen.

:)

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 02:52 PM
Ya know...I keep trying to tell the JW's that about Charles Taze Russell. They just don't listen.

:)

It's a bout with futility, as they actually have the hubris to simply reword the Bible, where it doesn't match their false doctrines. Sometimes people go so low it's near impossible to reach them. That is, if anybody can just reword scripture to suit them, they're simply not playing with a full deck, God's truth and God not really front and center, rather the organization. Generally speaking, cults are all about their false prophets, not Bible truth, the cult leader's writings, in the final analysis, taking precedence over the word of God. They choose to believe the lies. It makes them God's special little creatures.

theophilus
January 7th, 2016, 02:57 PM
It's a bout with futility, as they actually have the hubris to simply reword the Bible, where it doesn't match their false doctrines. Sometimes people go so low it's near impossible to reach them. That is, if anybody can just reword scripture to suit them, they're simply not playing with a full deck, God's truth and God not really front and center, rather the organization. Generally speaking, cults are all about their false prophets, not Bible truth, the cult leader's writings, in the final analysis, taking precedence over the word of God. They choose to believe the lies. It makes them God's special little creatures.

Jesus died for them, too, and as long as that is true I'll pray for them and go through THEIR "scriptures" with them.

They get stuck in their "assigned" bible studies and don't often visit those wonderful words decrying "works," a new Jerusalem, etc... I just got ahold of a book written by a former JW about how to witness to them. Good stuff. Been sharpening my Sword...

:)

I know my Bible as well as they know theirs. That's always a plus.

HisServant
January 7th, 2016, 02:59 PM
Having a favorite kind of works against the kind of person he wants us to be.

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jesus died for them, too, and as long as that is true I'll pray for them and go through THEIR "scriptures" with them.

They get stuck in their "assigned" bible studies and don't often visit those wonderful words decrying "works," a new Jerusalem, etc... I just got ahold of a book written by a former JW about how to witness to them. Good stuff. Been sharpening my Sword...

:)

I know my Bible as well as they know theirs. That's always a plus.

You're right. Sometimes I probably get jaded, never having had any success, at least at the time, though having shutdown their claims involving bastardized translation of John 1 with much other scripture on deity, or that the 144,000 are Jews, and a mere handful of those in heaven: it's right there. But, yes, we can pray, and you never know what may have stuck, down the road. I have great sympathy for the young who are brainwashed, they often, otherwise, great young people, though much less sympathy for the hardened old timers, the control freaks, doing the brainwashing.

SaulToPaul
January 7th, 2016, 03:09 PM
My favorite is the New Revised Standard International Living Version.

heir
January 7th, 2016, 03:11 PM
My favorite is the New Revised Standard International Living Version.:chuckle:

What kind of a standard is a revised standard?

SaulToPaul
January 7th, 2016, 03:11 PM
:chuckle:

What kind of a standard is a revised standard?

:chuckle:

oxymoron

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 03:17 PM
My favorite is the New Revised Standard International Living Version.

Will have to look into that, only familiar with the New Revised Standard International Living New World Translated Version Amplified, with Concordance and TV Guide, words of Ellen Miller Taze Smith Armstrong White in red.

SaulToPaul
January 7th, 2016, 03:18 PM
Will have to look into that, only familiar with the New Revised Standard International Living New World Translated Version Amplified, with Concordance and TV Guide, words of Ellen Miller Taze Smith Armstrong White in red.

I will have to give yours a try, and "use" it sometime.

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 03:18 PM
:chuckle:

What kind of a standard is a revised standard?

It's like that movie Spinal Tap, their old band named The New Originals.

WonderfulLordJesus
January 7th, 2016, 03:24 PM
I will have to give yours a try, and "use" it sometime.

I highly recommend it, have found it to be the most consistently inconsistent and reveals the missing letters of the Tetragrammaton, as well as a pretty good granola recipe you'll never get from the Sunday devils.

keypurr
January 8th, 2016, 12:32 AM
My favorite happens to be,"The New King James Bible." The Old
King James Bible used to be my favorite. (I still use it occasionally)

I grew up using the Old King James Bible and the New American
Standard Bible from 1962 on. I changed over to the NKJB in 2008.

What's your preference?

AENT (Aramaic English NT)
KJV
NIV
NRSV
NKJV
and about twenty five others.

Elia
January 8th, 2016, 12:56 AM
The KJV.

Is there any other? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4chsmu1.gif

Bs"d

There are many others. The KJV is the oldest, and the most corrupted.

"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction. The Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say: “Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things. Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know My hand and My might; and they shall know that My name is Y-H-W-H.”
Jer 16:19-21

Elia
January 8th, 2016, 12:57 AM
The KJV is my favorite for reading, but I teach/preach out of the NKJV.

When I'm studying a passage, I consult several - I have copies of most of the major translations.

Bs"d

Why not look in the real thing in stead of a translation?

Elia
January 8th, 2016, 12:58 AM
Grosnick Marowbe,
I also love The KJV, but I like the Newer Modern KJV, because it puts back into the Holy Scriptures, God's Personal, Proper Name, Jehovah.
The reason I believe this is better, is because most Bibles continue with the, I believe the wrong process used, of substituting the Titles LORD, or GOD, in all capital letters, where The Hebrew YHWH, which was in the Original Autographs. YHWH was the Hebrew word for the Proper Name of God, and it was in the Original Autographs of Bible books over 7,000 times.
I believe that anyone who purposely removes God's Proper Name from His own book has committed an enormous sin, and will be judged by Jehovah God, The Almighty.
Bs"d

Amen.

Elia
January 8th, 2016, 01:04 AM
My favorite is the New Revised Standard International Living Version.

Bs"d

The RVS is about the best translation around.

Of course not perfect, but the best.

User Name
January 8th, 2016, 10:25 AM
I believe that anyone who purposely removes God's Proper Name from His own book has committed an enormous sin, and will be judged by Jehovah God, The Almighty.

"Jehovah" is not God's proper name.

SaulToPaul
January 8th, 2016, 10:31 AM
The American Common Standard Good News Living Jubilee Revised Orthodox Message Literal Version is good as well.

12jtartar
January 8th, 2016, 11:07 AM
User Name,
Jehovah is the Personal & proper name of the One and only God, The Almighty God. This Name is the name of The Almighty God in English, and is the Name recognized and used for hundreds of years. There are many old buildings, and also many old coins that have this name on their front.
This personal name was, in the Original Autographs, over 7,000 times.
At Isaiah 42:8, God Himself said, I am Jehovah, that is my Name. In Exodus 6:3, in the KJV Bible it tells that God's name is Jehovah, also in Psalms 83:18, and Isaiah 12:2, 26:4.
Most Bibles use the system of substituting the word LORD or GOD, in all capital letters, where the Original Autographs had YHWH, the English word for Jehovah.
Under the Mosaic Law Covenant it was a death sentence to blaspheme the Name of Jehovah, Leviticus 24:11, 13-16.
If you want to have a future you must call on the Name of Jehovah, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13.

User Name
January 8th, 2016, 11:24 AM
User Name,
Jehovah is the Personal & proper name of the One and only God, The Almighty God.

There was no "J" sound in the Hebrew alphabet: http://www.eliyah.com/jhovah.htm

chrysostom
January 8th, 2016, 11:47 AM
I have to ask my self why I should care about what translation I use. It can alter the meaning of what it's actually saying. Having said that I use NKJV but I'am not opposed to other translations as long as they don't change the meaning.

That's all

the best part of having so many translations
is
you get an idea as to what liberties the translators take
and
in most cases this is not so important
but
it can be significant
so
your beliefs should not depend an any one translation

keypurr
January 16th, 2016, 12:50 PM
the best part of having so many translations

is

you get an idea as to what liberties the translators take

and

in most cases this is not so important

but

it can be significant

so

your beliefs should not depend an any one translation


We agree friend, I never though we would. Its a nice feeling. God bless.

rako
January 17th, 2016, 09:27 PM
I prefer the KJV because the authors went much out of their way to make it close to the Latin vulgate. They even used Latin-style expressions that had been rare or nonexistent in English, and which have since become part of English speech as a result. I like it because it's closest to the original then IMO.

It is not that I don't think a better one could not be made or that it's perfect - I don't believe in either proposition.

Cruciform
January 19th, 2016, 05:06 PM
WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE?
Revised Standard Version/Catholic Edition (RSV/CE)

I also like the ESV New Testament

OCTOBER23
January 19th, 2016, 06:02 PM
GROSSNICK asked,

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE?
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Answer: TRANSLATION INTO CANADIAN eh !

Grosnick Marowbe
January 19th, 2016, 07:31 PM
GROSSNICK asked,

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE?
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Answer: TRANSLATION INTO CANADIAN eh !

This is why we have a border.

HerodionRomulus
January 20th, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jerusalem Bible (1966) for readability

New Revised Standard Version with Aprocrypha for study.

12jtartar
January 29th, 2016, 07:54 AM
User Name,
Every language pronounces words differently. Spanish pronounces Jehovah with a y sound the v
sound, but the word Jehovah is spelled the same, except for the h on the end.
The name of God was put on name fronts of homes in the past, and on many old coins. They all used the spelling with a J, even though many languages pronounce the name differently.
No one living today knows for sure the exact pronunciation of God's name, but the Jame Jehovah, in English, has been the excepted way for hundreds of years. Even the earliest translations of the KJV 1611, used Jehovah for the name of God.
Since the NAME Jehovah is the most accepted, and God has not yet told us the exact way to pronounce His NAME, and since we want the only true God to know that we are praying to Him along, true Christians use Jehovah to distinguish Him from all the falsely called gods, when the Bible tells us there is just one true God, 1Corinthians 8:4-6, Ephesians 4:3-6, John 17:3, Jeremiah 10:11, 14,15, Psalms 115:1-8.
There are many translations in English that use the name Jehovah as the pronunciation of YHWH, God's proper name, personal name. The other names recorded in the Bible are proper adjectives. Look in the early KJV at Exodus 6:3, Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, 26:4. The name for God is in all the Literal Bibles hundreds of times, Darby Bible, American Standard Bible, Young's Literal Translation, and many others.
Do you really think that you are more qualified to tell these Bible writers that they do not know what they are doing???
I doubt you before all those men, some of whom died to put God's word in other languages so all people could know God's message to all men!!!

12jtartar
January 29th, 2016, 08:15 AM
Nonon,
There are many accurate Bibles, and almost all of them say the same thing, but because the Bible was written mostly in Hebrew and Greek, and these languages use a different syntax than English, it is sometimes hard to get the understanding of the scripture. If you have several Bibles to read and compare the scriptures, it is far easier to make sure what God's message is. I have around 50 Bibles to compare, and sometimes I am very happy that I compared the scriptures to other Bibles. Sometimes the scripture says the same as another Bible does, but by the way another puts the wording, in makes it much easier to understand.
On the Internet, you can download different programs that put several translations side by side for easy comparison.
I love Olive Tree, because it has many Bibles, dictionaries, concordances, commentary, and you can use this system without being on the Internet.
Bible Hub is also good, but you have to be on the Internet to use it, but it has interlinier Bibles, so you can see the exact word that was in the Original Autographs.
Other programs are 65 Bibles, with commentary, and 67 Bibles. These you can use without the Internet.

12jtartar
February 14th, 2016, 05:59 AM
chrysostom,
I agree with you, there are many Bibles that have the truth, are translated accurately. I use about 50 different translations, just to try to see what exactly, the writer was saying. By looking at different translations, with the words usually given a little different translation, and putting them together, you can very often understand the message, better than by just reading one translation.
I have found the Good News Bible to be the most enjoyable Bible, because it uses the same vocabulary that we use, and you usually can't help but understand.
There is one Bible that I have started to study with, is the Amplified Bible. This Bible puts explanations of much of the text that might be a little hard to understand, in the text as you read, but in brackets, so that you know that the words were not in the original writings, but are there as a help with understanding exactly what is being conveyed. Some Bibles put these in the text! I do not like that, because I believe that when men put their words into God's word, they adulterate, corrupt The Word of God. The Bible tells us that God's word is alive and powerful, Hebrews 4:12. Men's words have NO power, as far as I believe!!!

12jtartar
May 11th, 2016, 03:18 AM
Elia,
Just a few days ago, Olive Tree, has produced a new Bible, The Amplified Bible 2015 edition. Especially for someone who has not researched the Holy Scriptures for several years this Bible is very good, because it puts, in brackets, many helpful explanations of texts that new ones can use, and gain much information, without stopping to look up everything they might not be familiar with. Instead of stopping to look up things, many just go on reading and miss much valuable information. As far as doctrines is concerned, it is not completely accurate, but very few Bibles are, so if you are seriously studying God's word, you must compare several different translations.


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kiwimacahau
May 11th, 2016, 05:13 AM
NASB ; NRSV ; NKJV ; REB.

chrysostom
May 11th, 2016, 05:39 AM
the best part of having so many translations
is
you get an idea as to what liberties the translators take
and
in most cases this is not so important
but
it can be significant
so
your beliefs should not depend an any one translation


chrysostom,
I agree with you,

with the above post?

chrysostom
May 11th, 2016, 05:47 AM
my favorite version is the nab
-it has the word test
-it has this passage which explains what we are doing here
-dan 12:10 nab (http://www.usccb.org/bible/daniel/12)-
Many shall be refined, purified, and tested, but the wicked shall prove wicked; the wicked shall have no understanding, but those with insight shall.

HisServant
May 11th, 2016, 05:54 AM
I prefer the KJV because the authors went much out of their way to make it close to the Latin vulgate. They even used Latin-style expressions that had been rare or nonexistent in English, and which have since become part of English speech as a result. I like it because it's closest to the original then IMO.

It is not that I don't think a better one could not be made or that it's perfect - I don't believe in either proposition.

I suggest you go read up on the restrictions King James put on the translators.... your reason is an illusion.

chrysostom
May 11th, 2016, 05:57 AM
I suggest you go read up on the restrictions King James put on the translators.... your reason is an illusion.

how did king james get his authority?

HisServant
May 11th, 2016, 06:07 AM
how did king james get his authority?

The same way your Pope gets it... by convincing people that he has the divine right of kings and then has an army to back him up and a civil government to support him.

The reason he had his AV done was that he did not like the fact that the Geneva Bible did not support the 'divine right of Kings'.

Man's tendency to follow kings and people with a cult of personality is most definitely a character flaw... much like how Eve followed Satan.

People seem to forget that God's plan for Israel did not contain a King.. and that God only appointed a king after they grumbled because they were not like their neighbor... then God cursed them to live under the yoke of a King.

God wants to lead his people himself.. he doesn't want King's, Popes or any other hierarchy. People seem to forget that the tribe of Levi, who where the priest in Israel, did not teach, all they did was manage the temple and conduct the sacrifices... they were only a tool.

chrysostom
May 11th, 2016, 06:12 AM
The same way your Pope gets it... by convincing people that he has the divine right of kings and then has an army to back him up and a civil government to support him.

The reason he had his AV done was that he did not like the fact that the Geneva Bible did not support the 'divine right of Kings'.

Man's tendency to follow kings and people with a cult of personality is most definitely a character flaw... much like how Eve followed Satan.

People seem to forget that God's plan for Israel did not contain a King.. and that God only appointed a king after they grumbled because they were not like their neighbor... then God cursed them to live under the yoke of a King.

God wants to lead his people himself.. he doesn't want King's, Popes or any other hierarchy. People seem to forget that the tribe of Levi, who where the priest in Israel, did not teach, all they did was manage the temple and conduct the sacrifices... they were only a tool.

how did calvin get his authority?

HisServant
May 11th, 2016, 06:13 AM
how did calvin get his authority?

People followed him and voluntarily gave it to him... just like people that follow your Pope, or those that followed Luther.

No difference. Authority requires voluntary submission or coercion by force.

TulipBee
May 11th, 2016, 06:52 AM
how did calvin get his authority?
With his brother and sister and two friends, John Calvin fled Catholic France and headed to the free city of Strasbourg. It was the summer of 1536; Calvin had recently converted to the "evangelical" faith and had just published*The Institutes of the Christian Religion, which articulated his Protestant views. He was a wanted man. -http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/theologians/john-calvin.html

Even though plenty of Catholics laided hands on him, you want him to be the "outsider" that your false denomination teaches. The gospel really did spread further in the original universal Catholic Church. According to history, your denomination are one of the few other offsprings that split. So far RCC still failed to claim the title "The Church". You're still babbling the holy spirit doesn't work with the Protestants. You failed the tests. That means you're going to have to go bye bye