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CherubRam
June 19th, 2015, 03:16 AM
Isaiah Chapter 18
1. Woe to the land of [*1 spinning] wings, [*2 beyond] the rivers of [*3 Cush];
2. That sends [*4 ambassadors] by sea, in [*5 wooden] vessels upon the waters. Go quickly you messengers and speak to a [*6 tall] and [*7 smooth skin] people, to a nation violent from their beginning onward; a strong and [*8 conquering] nation, whose land is [*9 divided] by waters.
3. All you inhabitants of the world living upon the earth; Look and listen when he lifts up a [*10 banner] on the mountain, and when he blows the [*11 trumpet.]
4. Yahwah said to me, I will remain silent, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a heat wave in the sunlight, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.
5. For before the harvest, when the blossom is gone, and the bud is ripening into young [*12 grapes], He shall cut off both the sprigs and cut down the [*12 branches] with pruning hooks and take them away.
6. They shall be left to the gathering birds of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth; the birds shall summer upon them, and the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them.
7. In that time a gift shall be brought to [*13 the Lord] Yahwah Almighty, by a tall and smooth skin people, from a nation violent from their beginning onward; a strong and conquering nation, whose land is divided by waters, to a place named for [*13 the Lord] Yahwah Almighty, [*14 Mount Zion.]

Comments
*1. Spinning, buzzing, whirling, twirling and shadowing wings. The point to be made here is that any of these words are acceptable in the translation.
The point being that the wings are in motion and that it is being used to help personally identify that nation along with other key points.

*2. Beyond. The N.I.V bible translation (along) instead of (beyond) is in error. The subject nation is across the seas. Zephaniah 3:10 repeats part of Isaiah 18.

*3. Cush or Kush is now days called Ethiopia.

*4. Ambassadors or envoys. This is also key to the identification of that nation that sends ambassadors by sea.

*5. Wooden. The word wooden is used in place of the words bulrushes and papyrus. Strong’s bible dictionary attributes bulrushes as (papyrus), a plant used to make a wood pulp to build small boats or make paper. The word wooden is an interpretation and not a translation.

*6. Tall. The King James Bible does not use the word tall in its translation. The word tall is important in the identification of that nation.

*7. Smooth skin. The King James Bible translation is “scattered and peeled”, and the words can be translated that way. However the correct choice is smooth skin. Smooth skin means meek. It’s the opposite of being callus. What is being said is, go to the meek of that nation.

*8. Conquering. The King James in verse two uses the words (meted out) and (trodden down). The word meted means also measure out. It should have used the word tall for the translation. Also the words (trodden down) should have been translated to conquering. Conquering: A world power.

*9. Divided. The King James uses the word (spoiled), who knows why. The word should have been translated (divided). The correct translation of any bible word or verse is very important for correctly understanding what is being said.

*10. And *11. Banner and trumpet. The word is (shofar), a horn. The word trumpet was used as an acceptable translation. Banner, flag or ensign are all acceptable translations. The seven branch menorah was designed by Yahwah as a national symbol. It was shown to Moses so it could be made for the sanctuary of earth.
Psalm 60:4. You have given a banner to them that fear you, that it may be displayed because of the truth. Selah.

*12. Grapes and branches. Both of these words have a symbolic meaning.
Jeremiah 6:9
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Let them glean the remnant of Israel as thoroughly as a vine; pass your hand over the branches again, like one gathering grapes."

*13. Lord. That title is used in place of Gods personal name Yahwah.

*14. Mount Zion. See Hebrews 12:22. and Revelation 14:1. There are also other places in the bible that are related to this subject Mount Zion or Zion.


This is the interpretation.
Woe is for the sorrows that will come upon that nation in the last days.
There are five key points in the identification of that nation.
Number one is spinning wings.
Number two, they sent ambassadors by sea in wooden vessels.
Number three, the people are tall.
Number four, they have a violent beginning for that nation and onward.
Number five, that nations land is divided by its waters.

CherubRam
June 19th, 2015, 03:21 AM
America is that nation!
Spinning wings represents air craft for which America is famous for.

Sending ambassadors by sea in boats is a historical fact after America became a new nation.

American people are among the tallest of the nations.

America had a violent beginning and has continued in violence throughout its history, whereas other nations have had long periods of peace.

No other place in the world is more divided by its waters than America. America uses its waterways to divide nation from states, states from counties, counties from cities, and cities from towns.

All of these things that I have said here are a matter of fact and not my opinion.

In regards to verse four, were God says He will consider in His dwelling place like a cloud of due in the heat of harvest: This means; by His righteousness He will judge the harvest.

In verse five, the words grapes and branches are used symbolically for the people of the world.

When a person studies the bible they are in a search for clues. Also a person needs to know that some words can be translated differently.
Example: Isaiah 18. The king James translates one verse as the people being (scattered and peeled). However the N.I.V translates the same verse as (smooth skin) people.
Those Hebrew words can be translated either way. Now a people of a nation can be scattered, but they cannot be peeled. So the next question would be, what does smooth skin mean? That’s easy, because it’s a phrase we use this day. It’s the opposite of being callus; it means meek.
So therefore the verse is saying go to the meek of a violent nation.

Now while other nations have had opportunities for long periods of peace, America has not since its beginning.

In history it is a known fact that after America became a nation, it sent ambassadors by ships all over the world.

Also, if a person was to study a map of America’s borders they would find that no other place in the world is more divided by its water ways.

In regards to the terms spinning or shadowing of wings, America was the first to develop aircraft.

And America is a nation that is beyond the rivers of Cush, now called Ethiopia.


Notice here how Zephaniah repeats part of Isaiah 18.
Zephaniah 3
9 "Then will I purify the lips of the peoples, that all of them may call on the name of Yahwah and serve him shoulder to shoulder.
10 From beyond the rivers of Cush my worshipers, my scattered people, will bring me offerings.
11 On that day you will not be put to shame for all the wrongs you have done to me, because I will remove from this city those who rejoice in their pride. Never again will you be haughty on my holy hill.
12 But I will leave within you the meek and humble, who trust in the name of Yahwah.

After I had made my first post on Isaiah 18, and after it was on the Internet for some time, Hal Lindsey on TBN spoke on May 02, 2001. Hal stated that he did not believe Isaiah 18 is about America. Although Hal is a good Christian man, he has been wrong in the past.

The bible speaks of about five different end times. The scriptures that I have used pertain to the end of the second millennium. I also point out that the nation mentioned is not named. The prophets were aware of all the nations near them within thousands of miles. This fact disproves other Isaiah 18 commentaries.


Psalm 37:11
But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy peace and prosperity.

Zephaniah 3:12
But I will leave within you the meek and humble. The remnant of Israel will trust in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.


Ezekiel 10:13
I heard the wheels being called “the whirling wheels.”

Turbines

Ezekiel 3:13
It was the sound of the wings of the living creatures brushing against each other and the sound of the wheels beside them, a loud rumbling sound.

Revelation 9:9
They had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the thundering of many horses and chariots rushing into battle.


In the days of the prophets there were no such words as propeller, or turbine. Upon becoming a new nation America sent out ambassadors by ship to other nations. I am not aware of any other nation in history that has done that.

CherubRam
October 20th, 2015, 07:45 PM
Isaiah 18:1
1 Woe to the land of whirring wings beyond the rivers of Cush,...


Isaiah 18:7
At that time gifts will be brought to the Lord Almighty from a people tall and smooth-skinned, from a people feared far and wide, an aggressive nation of strange speech, whose land is divided by rivers— the gifts will be brought to Mount Zion, to a place named for (the Lord / Yahwah) Almighty.

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Cush my worshipers, my scattered people, will bring me offerings.

CherubRam
January 30th, 2018, 03:17 PM
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