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Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 02:03 PM
See also:

Fun Facts: Moses vs. Mohammed (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107157)

Fun Facts: Satan vs. Allah (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107437)


UPDATE:

I've made a public .pdf file you can download free for all these great pictures.

You can also buy it as a Photobook on Amazon and Blurb

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...klLbkFuODRYODA (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByYCJSNtUaiBNklLbkFuODRYODA)



This will be a series of comparisons giving a fresh perspective:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dw4aasioFc8/VLQn_CFOgZI/AAAAAAAAAik/GTQzr_zHCyg/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-01.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oPRZwjMaLXs/VLmOeDux35I/AAAAAAAAHag/v7qBVVDMXHw/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-02-short.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vwJ0s-etln0/VLmOeE3qVPI/AAAAAAAAHac/PsZuzNjV4gA/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-03-short.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F0KYyn8AuRw/VLmOevmIutI/AAAAAAAAHak/5GRkTkAnnS8/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-04-short.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nRW83jalguQ/VLmOewkQ-xI/AAAAAAAAHas/uu-ozmxBQA8/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-05-short.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5atyqGTa8y4/VLmOfMjDVqI/AAAAAAAAHaw/rliopj2mEy4/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-06-short.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iczYF9HIO4c/VLmOffmBZyI/AAAAAAAAHa0/yJIBZ9DBscI/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-07-short.jpg

resodko
January 12th, 2015, 02:29 PM
:think:

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 03:08 PM
:think:

Why is the camel an unclean animal? And why does it matter?

http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/mers_virus_graphics_afp_840_894_100.jpg?w=640&h=681

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 03:17 PM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God


There is no photo for Muhammed. Is it truely the photo of Jesus?

chair
January 12th, 2015, 03:32 PM
Naz,

I didn't know slime could get this low.

You're disgusting.

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 03:34 PM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God


Only one of them can be from God,
since the contradict one another.


It is prohibited by me, a child of God,
for anyone to print or distribute the Quran,
because it is an evil paramilitary handbook
written by Satan.

In the Holy Scriptures it is promised that I will be one of the people
judging real infidels like the followers of Mohammed.

'...do you not know that the Lord's people (Christians) will judge the world?'

1st Cor. 6:2


Some of you will be cast into the Lake of Fire.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ByaxxfW280k/VLmZjohdaQI/AAAAAAAAHbg/akY9j_CZpU0/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-08-short.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3GkS0uNgKIQ/VLmZjeRaVLI/AAAAAAAAHbc/riFAG30i6QQ/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-09-short.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2cW328lAwcs/VLmZjSxB5XI/AAAAAAAAHbk/-PEnnOJh1-M/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-10-short.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8nHL10wED8g/VLmZkiTFQbI/AAAAAAAAHb4/aeB2VOMMZeA/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-11-short.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Zk_l9cEDfPw/VLmZkU6ax0I/AAAAAAAAHbw/hM_y54ZA62A/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-12-short.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pcEb9n9YrSk/VLmZkkD_DOI/AAAAAAAAHb0/HbqkaDscSRw/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-13-short.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K7ktKbjCeDU/VLmZlMB_dEI/AAAAAAAAHb8/ET819DBgt9U/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-14-short.jpg

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 03:40 PM
But I can't make comparison.

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 03:44 PM
Only God Who know the unbelievers.

drbrumley
January 12th, 2015, 03:52 PM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God


There is no photo for Muhammed. Is it truely the photo of Jesus?

No you are prohibited by Quran to compare between them because Jesus saves....and is the ONLY and legitimate Son of the LIVING GOD!!!!

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 03:54 PM
Naz,

I didn't know slime could get this low.

You're disgusting.


Everytime you troll my threads,

I'm going to post a half dozen links about Jews in the Porn industry.

Keep trolling at your own risk.
Ask yourself if you want to continue this.


http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issue...l?articleid=38 (http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38)

http://davidduke.com/jewish-professo...inst-gentiles/ (http://davidduke.com/jewish-professor-boasts-of-jewish-pornography-used-as-a-weapon-against-gentiles/)

http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/pornogra...asha-darkmoon/ (http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/pornography-as-a-secret-weapon-by-lasha-darkmoon/)

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=67

http://radioislam.org/crime/sex/jew_porn1.htm

http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/the_pornography_business.html



Why bother with the escalating Muslim threat?










Or, you could just get out of my threads, you troll,
before you regret the damage.

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 03:54 PM
You said that there is contradiction between both.

Why did God send Jesus to Jews??

Again
What about photo of Jesus is it true?

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 03:55 PM
Why did God send Jesus to Jews??




Wrong again.

Jesus was sent to the WHOLE WORLD.

The Jews are only one group of tribes,
but the message of Jesus is for ALL PEOPLES.

The message of Mohammed is from Satan.

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 04:01 PM
You don't know your NT

serpentdove
January 12th, 2015, 04:09 PM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God[.]


No you are prohibited by Quran to compare between them because Jesus saves....and is the ONLY and legitimate Son of the LIVING GOD!!!!

Muslims do not believe God can become a human being. Is. 7:14, Matt. 1:18; Luke 1:26–35, Matt. 1:19–25

serpentdove
January 12th, 2015, 04:10 PM
You don't know your NT

What did you think about el-Sissi's comments? Here, the are impressed with them. I am not.

drbrumley
January 12th, 2015, 04:11 PM
Muslims do not believe God can become a human being.

Yep

Doom
January 12th, 2015, 04:19 PM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God


No.

Jesus is God

Muhammad is nothing more than a pedophile who has never known God.

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 04:32 PM
You don't know your NT

Test me.

I've learned these languages in order to study it,
and have studied it for some 40 years.

But who knows? Maybe you can teach me something I don't know.

Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, Syriac, Chaldean, AEtheopic, Coptic, and Latin.

I'll estimate that I've read the Bible some 50 times in 3 languages.

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 06:13 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HZoJKmg49y4/VLRjB3THWeI/AAAAAAAAAjA/_CsEBFvxpxg/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-02.jpg

Daniel1611
January 12th, 2015, 06:26 PM
Mohammad commanded his followers to die. Jesus died for his followers.

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 06:32 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eUF1sdqLO6Y/VLRnc1PJQhI/AAAAAAAAAjM/Ro_Fo4lAIag/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-03.jpg

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 07:04 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jvFHQWT2rFE/VLRu4xFd2kI/AAAAAAAAAjc/8flF3DuiaK0/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-04.jpg

resodko
January 12th, 2015, 07:11 PM
There is no photo for Muhammed.

sure there are, plenty

why, here's one right here:

http://www.tn-atheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/muslim-kiss.jpg


Is it truely the photo of Jesus?

yes, stored on a 2000 year old smart phone, recently discovered in a cave near eilat

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 07:35 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Lxt3RYAbmrs/VLR2NEiQmpI/AAAAAAAAAjs/4tGSOAyODnk/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-05.jpg

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 07:59 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2OdIUSLRLuE/VLR74OGfh9I/AAAAAAAAAj8/O_08-b3YdRE/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-06.jpg

Nazaroo
January 12th, 2015, 08:21 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JF4EQXZvHQc/VLSA_qPx63I/AAAAAAAAAkM/hgRwy_6qp6E/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-07.jpg

chair
January 12th, 2015, 10:22 PM
Everytime you troll my threads,

I'm going to post a half dozen links about Jews in the Porn industry....

[COLOR=Red]Or, you could just get out of my threads, you troll,
before you regret the damage.

Post away. You apparently have learned something from Islamic terrorists.

So have I: I am not going to capitulate because of your threats, bigot.

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 11:28 PM
What did you think about el-Sissi's comments? Here, the are impressed with them. I am not.

What is this comments?

As general Sessi fights Islamics and this lead to production and growth of exterimists.

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 11:47 PM
Test me.

I've learned these languages in order to study it,
and have studied it for some 40 years.

But who knows? Maybe you can teach me something I don't know.

Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, Syriac, Chaldean, AEtheopic, Coptic, and Latin.

I'll estimate that I've read the Bible some 50 times in 3 languages.That is good.

I don`t test you , only i`m asking you to know.
Jesus said:
Matthew 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27................
Matthew10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
2
Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
3
Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
4
Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
5
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Again why God sent Jesus to Jews/apostles how they did understand/comprehend him?

egyptianmuslim
January 12th, 2015, 11:58 PM
sure there are, plenty

why, here's one right here:

http://www.tn-atheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/muslim-kiss.jpg



yes, stored on a 2000 year old smart phone, recently discovered in a cave near eilat

I`d like to see the original photo. what about the photo of Mary?


Is picturing/sculpting a prohibited or permitted thing in Judaism ?

patrick jane
January 13th, 2015, 12:15 AM
I`d like to see the original photo. what about the photo of Mary?


Is picturing/sculpting a prohibited or permitted thing in Judaism ?

wow, people are really repping your curiousity of menstrual sex between christians. did you get an answer ? :Patrol:

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 03:25 AM
That is good.

I don`t test you , only i`m asking you to know.

Jesus said:
Matthew 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26
But he answered and said, It is
not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27................



Matthew10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
2
Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
3
Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
4
Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
5
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Again why God sent Jesus to Jews/apostles how they did understand/comprehend him?


As explained by Paul, Jesus presented Himself first to the Jews during His earthly ministry, (Romans 1:16)



But even at that time Jesus willingly accepted Syrians, Phonecians,
Samaritans, Romans, Cyrenes, Aethiopians, blessed them, healed them and taught them.
(Matt. 15:21-28) (John 4:7) (Matt. 8:5-13) (Mark 14:43-52) (Acts 8:26-39)

Even the apostles had to learn to embrace non-Jews into their community. (Acts 10:9-16)

To fulfill the prophecies, Jesus had to seek and save men of ALL NATIONS.

“For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end” (Isaiah 9:6–7).


As to how Jesus' apostles and disciples understood Him,
He took them aside after speaking parables publicly,
and explained the deeper meanings to them in private.

'He did not speak to them without a parable;
but He was explaining everything privately to His own disciples' (Mark 4:34)

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 03:34 AM
Post away. ...

So have I: I am not going to capitulate because of your threats, bigot.

Neither am I, troll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

Ut7I75Q_-zA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVeMMhXud8Q
VVeMMhXud8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-YnvGJ8uM
xm-YnvGJ8uM

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 03:39 AM
wow, people are really repping your curiousity of menstrual sex between christians. did you get an answer ? :Patrol:


We can't post such explicit material here,
but you can learn more about
the Misogynist practices which are widespread in Islam here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms9NrdiJHRA

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Islam+misogyny&page=4

chair
January 13th, 2015, 04:14 AM
Neither am I, troll.

Except I am not threatening you. You are threatening me.

Bigot

oatmeal
January 13th, 2015, 04:34 AM
God raised Jesus Christ from the dead, after Jesus Christ sacrificed his own life to save others.

Jesus Christ is now seated at the right hand of the throne of God.

He is the way to the Father.

If we assume that both the Quaran and scripture are unprovable as to whether either is literally God's word, I like the story of scripture gives us much, much better.

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 04:35 AM
Except I am not threatening you. You are threatening me.



I'm only offering Holy Scripture.

If you're feeling threatened, consult the LORD God of Israel,
CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.

chair
January 13th, 2015, 04:43 AM
I'm only offering Holy Scripture.

If you're feeling threatened, consult the LORD God of Israel,
CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.

You call this "Holy Scripture"?

Everytime you troll my threads,

I'm going to post a half dozen links about Jews in the Porn industry.

Keep trolling at your own risk.
Ask yourself if you want to continue this.

...
Or, you could just get out of my threads, you troll,
before you regret the damage.

I call it a threat.

Bigot.

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 04:49 AM
I call it a threat.



The only threat I know of for you is this:


Deuteronomy 28:15-68



Curses on Disobedience

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.
17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.
18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.
19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.
20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.
25 “The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them; and you shall become troublesome to all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 Your carcasses shall be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and no one shall frighten them away. 27 The Lord will strike you with the boils of Egypt, with tumors, with the scab, and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. 28 The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of heart. 29 And you shall grope at noonday, as a blind man gropes in darkness; you shall not prosper in your ways; you shall be only oppressed and plundered continually, and no one shall save you.
30 “You shall betroth a wife, but another man shall lie with her; you shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but shall not gather its grapes. 31 Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you shall not eat of it; your donkey shall be violently taken away from before you, and shall not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you shall have no one to rescue them. 32 Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, and your eyes shall look and fail with longing for them all day long; and there shall be no strength in your hand. 33 A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually. 34 So you shall be driven mad because of the sight which your eyes see. 35 The Lord will strike you in the knees and on the legs with severe boils which cannot be healed, and from the sole of your foot to the top of your head.
36 “The Lord will bring you and the king whom you set over you to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods—wood and stone. 37 And you shall become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword among all nations where the Lord will drive you.
38 “You shall carry much seed out to the field but gather little in, for the locust shall consume it. 39 You shall plant vineyards and tend them, but you shall neither drink of the wine nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil; for your olives shall drop off. 41 You shall beget sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours; for they shall go into captivity. 42 Locusts shall consume all your trees and the produce of your land.
43 “The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. 44 He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.
45 “Moreover all these curses shall come upon you and pursue and overtake you, until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. 46 And they shall be upon you for a sign and a wonder, and on your descendants forever.
47 “Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you. 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. 51 And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you.
52 “They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the Lord your God has given you. 53 You shall eat the fruit of your own body, the flesh of your sons and your daughters whom the Lord your God has given you, in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you. 54 The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind, 55 so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[a (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+28:15-68#fen-NKJV-5668a)] to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter, 57 her placenta which comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of everything in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates.
58 “If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE LORD YOUR GOD, 59 then the Lord will bring upon you and your descendants extraordinary plagues—great and prolonged plagues—and serious and prolonged sicknesses. 60 Moreover He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. 61 Also every sickness and every plague, which is not written in this Book of the Law, will the Lord bring upon you until you are destroyed. 62 You shall be left few in number, whereas you were as the stars of heaven in multitude, because you would not obey the voice of the Lord your God. 63 And it shall be, that just as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good and multiply you, so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you and bring you to nothing; and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess.
64 “Then the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known—wood and stone. 65 And among those nations you shall find no rest, nor shall the sole of your foot have a resting place; but there the Lord will give you a trembling heart, failing eyes, and anguish of soul. 66 Your life shall hang in doubt before you; you shall fear day and night, and have no assurance of life. 67 In the morning you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were evening!’ And at evening you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were morning!’ because of the fear which terrifies your heart, and because of the sight which your eyes see.
68 “And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”


So talk to Moses.

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 05:12 AM
wow, people are really repping your curiousity of menstrual sex between christians. did you get an answer ? :Patrol:You know the story of this question and you are one of christian, truely you don`t know the answer.

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 05:16 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3-7wBm_QrAo/VLT_Dm4Cq7I/AAAAAAAAAkk/dnMMe35ifcY/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-08.jpg

chair
January 13th, 2015, 05:18 AM
[QUOTE=Nazaroo;4183029]The only threat I know of for you is this:

Curiously enough, you have been threatening me in your own words.

Bigot

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 05:56 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3E10qOJkH1Y/VLUI0A_W_vI/AAAAAAAAAk8/AEGaqLL3XN4/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-09.jpg



Perhaps this example explains why
Jews like Chair are more sympathetic to Muslims than to Christians...



Contrary to Muslim claims, a nine-year-old girl just isn’t ready for sexual intercourse or for its possible ramifications (i.e., pregnancy, giving birth, breast-feeding, and raising a child). It is unnecessarily dangerous, for a much safer relationship could be crafted if the marriage were to take place several years later, when the girl reaches her late teens. Muslims may respond here by arguing, “But Aisha never became pregnant, so none of this matters.” Yet it does matter. Every year, countless young girls, still playing with dolls, are taken to live with much older husbands. If these husbands were to be challenged, they wouldn’t respond by saying, “But it’s part of Arabic culture”; instead, they would reply, “It can’t be wrong, because Muhammad did it.” In other words, even if we grant the bizarre claim that Aisha was somehow ready for sex and marriage, most nine-year-old girls aren’t ready for sex and marriage. But the practice of marrying children continues to this day in many Muslim countries, largely because Muslims hold up Muhammad as their highest role model.

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/10/was-muhammad-pedophile.html

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 07:04 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tBpA71BdhI0/VLUXoEFFxGI/AAAAAAAAAlM/t-diP19dCvs/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-10.jpg

chair
January 13th, 2015, 07:21 AM
Perhaps this example explains why Jews like Chair are more sympathetic to Muslims than to Christians...


Besdies the fact that this is not true, you have once again shown your bigotry in lumping together all Jews on the basis of what one Jew thinks (or in this case- what you claim he thinks).

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 07:34 AM
Besdies the fact that this is not true, you have once again shown your bigotry in lumping together all Jews on the basis of what one Jew thinks (or in this case- what you claim he thinks).

..so its safe to say you are obsessed with a Christian forum,
and you're stalking me, ...

I certainly don't lump all Jews together with you.

(1) They are not stalking me nor are they obsessed with Christian issues.

(2) The Jews I know are actually real men, like Prime Minister NetanYahu,
who had the courage and balls to walk side by side with the Palestinian leader
and a whole host of other world leaders in solidarity against Islamic terrorism,
while Obama cringed in the Whitehouse and his embassador hid in a hotel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeaPtaknvEs

BeaPtaknvEs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s2SRxlU1uc

0s2SRxlU1uc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge8h8XCeaGs

ge8h8XCeaGs

chair
January 13th, 2015, 08:35 AM
. .

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 08:54 AM
As explained by Paul, Jesus presented Himself first to the Jews during His earthly ministry, (Romans 1:16)



But even at that time Jesus willingly accepted Syrians, Phonecians,
Samaritans, Romans, Cyrenes, Aethiopians, blessed them, healed them and taught them.
(Matt. 15:21-28) (John 4:7) (Matt. 8:5-13) (Mark 14:43-52) (Acts 8:26-39)

Even the apostles had to learn to embrace non-Jews into their community. (Acts 10:9-16)

To fulfill the prophecies, Jesus had to seek and save men of ALL NATIONS.

“For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end” (Isaiah 9:6–7).


As to how Jesus' apostles and disciples understood Him,
He took them aside after speaking parables publicly,
and explained the deeper meanings to them in private.

'He did not speak to them without a parable;
but He was explaining everything privately to His own disciples' (Mark 4:34)

I don`t talk about Paul.

I know Muhammed from the message that was given to him and i see it in agreement with that of Moses.
Again
Isn`t Jesus one of Jews and he did spend all his life inbetween them?
What is the message of Jesus to Jews, is it in agreement with that of Moses?

If you have no direct answer of this simple question, you assert that Jesus has no message.

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 09:06 AM
I know Muhammed from the message that was given to him and i see it in agreement with that of Moses.
Muhammed disagrees with Moses so many times I can't count them.

Muhammed is a false prophet.

(1) Muhammed made no prophecies. He is useless.

(2) Muhammed fulfilled no prophecies, excepting the coming Servant of Satan.

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 10:57 AM
I do'nt talk about prophecy .
Again
Muhammed was a benificial man to arabics who was idolaters.
Was Jesus a benifiacial man to Judaism,how?

serpentdove
January 13th, 2015, 11:32 AM
What is this comments?


Around here so-called conservatives believe that your faith can be reformed :turbo: so that Muslims do not continue to murder people (Mt 7:20). :Plain:

Do you think he is rethinking your :CRASH: religion? Ge 16:12 Perhaps he is having a come to Jesus moment? Jn 14:6 :Shimei:

'Egypt's Al-Sissi deserves the Nobel Prize for speech on Islamic extremism' (http://www.haaretz.com/video/1.636645)

See:

Islam (http://vananne.com/culttoasters/#Islam)

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 11:54 AM
I do'nt talk about prophecy .


Mohammed fulfilled prophecy, about the ANTI-CHRIST.




Muhammed was a benificial man to arabics who was idolaters.


Thats right, he was beneficial to Arabs,
his armies killed everyone else.

He is a useless piece of evil crap.

Any dictator can do the same.







Was Jesus a benificial man to Judaism,how?

Without Jesus, no Jews would have survived the Roman/Jewish Wars.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 11:56 AM
Muslims do not believe God can become a human being.

They are correct because the Bible doesn't state that.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jesus is God

Says who?

Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

It is confirmed here:

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Please check hundreds of fool-proof texts like these:

De 18:18, 2 Sa 7:12-16, 1Ch 17:11-14, Ps 8:5, 45:6-7, Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, 45:5, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, 5:4, Mt 6:9, 10:20, 11:25, 27:46, Lu 1:32-35, Jn 4:23, 5:24, 5:31-47, 6:44-45, 6:65, 12:47-50, 14:1, 14:6, 14:10, 16:3, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:24, 2:30, 2:36, 3:20-26, 5:30, 10:36, 10:38, 10:40, 13:23, 13:33, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 3:25, 8:11, 1Cor 1:3, 6:14, 3:33, 8:6, 11:3, 15:20-21, 15:57, 2Co 1:2-3, 4:14, 5:18-19+21, 11:31, Eph 1:3, 1:17+19-21, 2:18, 3:14, 3:20, 4:6, 4:30, 5:20, Ga 1:1, 1:3, 1:4, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, 3:17, Php 1:2, 4:20, 1Th 1:1-3, 3:13, 4:14, 5:18, 2Th 1:1-2, 2:16, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, 5:7, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3+17+21, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1, 1:6, 3:2, 3:12.

Crowns&Laurels
January 13th, 2015, 12:08 PM
The picture of Mohammad :freak:

Anyway, only in Islamic religion does Jesus and Mohammad have a comparison (Jesus is Deity in Christianity)- they are both seen as prophets, one to the Jews and one to the Arabs.

Of course, Mohammad is going to trump everyone up and beyond even Moses, for some odd reason or another (he's Arabic).

The Muslim religion came several hundred years after Christianity- by the time Mohammad was even writing his alleged enlightenments and prophecies, Christianity was already the state religion of Rome and Greece.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 12:14 PM
...by the time Mohammad was even writing his alleged enlightenments and prophecies, Christianity was already the state religion of Rome and Greece.

By that time Christianity was already more pagan then Christian, more barbaric than Islam of today.

False Prophet
January 13th, 2015, 12:20 PM
The Michael Angelo painting of Jesus is the official portrait of Jesus. Is there an official portrait of Mohammad?

HisServant
January 13th, 2015, 12:22 PM
I do'nt talk about prophecy .
Again
Muhammed was a benificial man to arabics who was idolaters.
Was Jesus a benifiacial man to Judaism,how?

So Muhammad replaced one god with another (or many to one)... other than that, what did he do that was beneficial other than conquest by the sword which just comes down to murder and confiscation of others property for his own wealth. (which seems to be his legacy down through the ages... everyone must submit to his tribe and if don't.. just go ahead and kill them and take their worldly goods).

It really is a poor religion, based on works alone.

Crowns&Laurels
January 13th, 2015, 12:24 PM
The Michael Angelo painting of Jesus is the official portrait of Jesus. Is there an official portrait of Mohammad?

They used all their paint on napalm.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 12:30 PM
So Muhammad replaced one god with another (or many to one)... other than that, what did he do that was beneficial other than conquest by the sword which just comes down to murder and confiscation of others property for his own wealth. (which seems to be his legacy down through the ages... everyone must submit to his tribe and if don't.. just go ahead and kill them and take their worldly goods).

It really is a poor religion, based on works alone.

It is a mirror picture of Christianity, isn't?

Does the call to "Holy War" against Muslims by Pope Urban in 1095 ring the bell?

What about the German and Italian Christians butchering other country Christians in the WW II?

HisServant
January 13th, 2015, 01:41 PM
It is a mirror picture of Christianity, isn't?

Does the call to "Holy War" against Muslims by Pope Urban in 1095 ring the bell?

What about the German and Italian Christians butchering other country Christians in the WW II?

You need to separate the culture from the religion (which was almost impossible back in the dark ages)... and during the Nazi regime.

I would never have condoned any of what you mention, and I think the majority of Christians today feel the same way.

The problem is that the Muslims have not learned the difficult lesson that the Christians learned back then... when government/culture is led by religious nuts, mass slaughter is inevitable.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 02:04 PM
You need to separate the culture from the religion (which was almost impossible back in the dark ages)... and during the Nazi regime.

This is much more difficult to do it today.


I would never have condoned any of what you mention, and I think the majority of Christians today feel the same way.

You are totally wrong.


The problem is that the Muslims have not learned the difficult lesson that the Christians learned back then... when government/culture is led by religious nuts, mass slaughter is inevitable.

What you think the Christian Church chaplains do in armies? Who pays them?

I am not defending Islam in any way but merely pointing out the causes and similarities.

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 02:31 PM
hmmm you need a little historical correction on the Crusades.

They were defensive wars.

The real crime in that regard was the sacking of Constantinople
(Christian vs Christian).

The Danger from Muslim hoards was real.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

HisServant
January 13th, 2015, 02:40 PM
What you think the Christian Church chaplains do in armies? Who pays them?

Have you talked to any Army Chaplain in the US lately?.. they must accommodate all faiths.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 02:43 PM
hmmm you need a little historical correction on the Crusades.

They were defensive wars.

Which of Jesus' examples or teachings they followed, you would say?

What if God wanted to punish Christianity for their sins: paganism and barbarism?

Psa 34:21 Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 02:46 PM
Have you talked to any Army Chaplain in the US lately?.. they must accommodate all faiths.

No. I am in Africa.

But whom those chaplains really serve?

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 02:47 PM
The Michael Angelo painting of Jesus is the official portrait of Jesus. Is there an official portrait of Mohammad?

No , no at all .

jerzy
January 13th, 2015, 02:55 PM
The Michael Angelo painting of Jesus is the official portrait of Jesus.

Says who?

Nazaroo
January 13th, 2015, 03:09 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NDj7wztM1e0/VLWJRxbM0HI/AAAAAAAAAl0/jhyN0lSF3xk/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-11.jpg

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 03:10 PM
Around here so-called conservatives believe that your faith can be reformed :turbo: so that Muslims do not continue to murder people (Mt 7:20). :Plain:

Do you think he is rethinking your :CRASH: religion? Ge 16:12 Perhaps he is having a come to Jesus moment? Jn 14:6 :Shimei:

'Egypt's Al-Sissi deserves the Nobel Prize for speech on Islamic extremism' (http://www.haaretz.com/video/1.636645)

See:

Islam (http://vananne.com/culttoasters/#Islam)

No need to reform Islam we need to reform the mind of the people
we Muslims should respect the beliefs of others.

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 03:16 PM
Was Jesus a beneficial man to Judaism,how?


Without Jesus, no Jews would have survived the Roman/Jewish Wars.

I`m talking about Judaism"as religion"

chair
January 13th, 2015, 03:24 PM
Without Jesus, no Jews would have survived the Roman/Jewish Wars.

How exactly does that work?

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 03:25 PM
So Muhammad replaced one god with another (or many to one)... other than that, what did he do that was beneficial other than conquest by the sword which just comes down to murder and confiscation of others property for his own wealth. (which seems to be his legacy down through the ages... everyone must submit to his tribe and if don't.. just go ahead and kill them and take their worldly goods).

It really is a poor religion, based on works alone.

Jesus was a jew and he practicised Judaism, was he a beneficial man to Judaism"as religion", how?

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 03:33 PM
.

The problem is that the Muslims"Islamists and their produce of terrorism" have not learned the difficult lesson that the Christians learned back then... when government/culture is led by religious nuts, mass slaughter is inevitable.

True "after my addition".

HisServant
January 13th, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jesus was a jew and he practicised Judaism, was he a beneficial man to Judaism"as religion", how?

He came to show the Jews (who were hard headed and had perverted his fathers teachings) the error of their ways and to remove the necessity for Jews to offer blood sacrifices for their atonement...

So yes, he was extremely beneficial for the Jews that understood who he really was... then to be even more beneficial, he extended the promises that his father made to Abraham to every single person on the planet that would listen to his gospel.

He also removed racism and sexism from his followers by proclaiming that it didn't matter if you were Jew or Greek, male or female, he would treat them all equally. (after all, they are all equally his creation).

Crowns&Laurels
January 13th, 2015, 06:29 PM
hmmm you need a little historical correction on the Crusades.

They were defensive wars.

The real crime in that regard was the sacking of Constantinople
(Christian vs Christian).

They were defensive to a large extent, but Christendom took it a bit too far. Them sacking themselves is only one side of that.

egyptianmuslim
January 13th, 2015, 11:37 PM
He came to show the Jews (who were hard headed and had perverted his fathers teachings) the error of their ways and to remove the necessity for Jews to offer blood sacrifices for their atonement...

So yes, he was extremely beneficial for the Jews that understood who he really was... then to be even more beneficial, he extended the promises that his father made to Abraham to every single person on the planet that would listen to his gospel.

He also removed racism and sexism from his followers by proclaiming that it didn't matter if you were Jew or Greek, male or female, he would treat them all equally. (after all, they are all equally his creation).

That is Good and in agreement with Quran
3:47. Mary said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a

son when no man has touched me." He said: "So

(it will be) for Allah creates what He wills.

When He has decreed something, He says to it

only: "Be!" and it is.

48. And He (Allah) will teach him ['Iesa

(Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the

Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets,

wisdom, etc.), (and) the Taurat (Torah) and the

Injeel (Gospel).

49. And will make him ['Iesa (Jesus)] a

Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): "I

have come to you with a sign from your Lord,

that I design for you out of clay, as it were,

the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and

it becomes a bird by Allah's Leave; and I heal

him who was born blind, and the leper, and I

bring the dead to life by Allah's Leave. And I

inform you of what you eat, and what you store

in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for

you, if you believe.

50. And I have come confirming that which was

before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make

lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your

Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.

51. Truly! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so

worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path.


---------
Muhammed"by help of God" destroyed idols in all

Arab region and clean it from idolatery,and he

confirmed daniel prophecy about destruction

Persian Imperial who worship other than God

The Bible - Daniel 2:1-45
1
And in the second year of the reign of

Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams,

wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep

brake from him.

2
Then the king commanded to call the magicians,

and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the

Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So

they came and stood before the king.

3
And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a

dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the

dream.

4
Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack,

O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the

dream, and we will shew the interpretation.

5
The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The

thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known

unto me the dream, with the interpretation

thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your

houses shall be made a dunghill.

6
But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation

thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and

rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the

dream, and the interpretation thereof.

7
They answered again and said, Let the king tell

his servants the dream, and we will shew the

interpretation of it.

8
The king answered and said, I know of certainty

that ye would gain the time, because ye see the

thing is gone from me.

9
But if ye will not make known unto me the dream,

there is but one decree for you: for ye have

prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before

me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me

the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me

the interpretation thereof.

10
The Chaldeans answered before the king, and

said, There is not a man upon the earth that can

shew the king's matter: therefore there is no

king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at

any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.

11
And it is a rare thing that the king requireth,

and there is none other that can shew it before

the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not

with flesh.

12
For this cause the king was angry and very

furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise

men of Babylon.

13
And the decree went forth that the wise men

should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his

fellows to be slain.

14
Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to

Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which

was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:

15
He answered and said to Arioch the king's

captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the

king? Then Arioch made the thing known to

Daniel.

16
Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king

that he would give him time, and that he would

shew the king the interpretation.

17
Then Daniel went to his house, and made the

thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,

his companions:

18
That they would desire mercies of the God of

heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and

his fellows should not perish with the rest of

the wise men of Babylon.

19
Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a

night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of

heaven.

20
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of

God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are

his:

21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he

removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth

wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that

know understanding:

22
He revealeth the deep and secret things: he

knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light

dwelleth with him.

23
I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my

fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and

hast made known unto me now what we desired of

thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the

king's matter.

24
Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the

king had ordained to destroy the wise men of

Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy

not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before

the king, and I will shew unto the king the

interpretation.

25
Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in

haste, and said thus unto him, I have found a

man of the captives of Judah, that will make

known unto the king the interpretation.

26
The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name

was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known

unto me the dream which I have seen, and the

interpretation thereof?

27
Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and

said, The secret which the king hath demanded

cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the

magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;

28
But there is a God in heaven that revealeth

secrets, and maketh known to the king

Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days.

Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy

bed, are these;

29
As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy

mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass

hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh

known to thee what shall come to pass.

30
But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me

for any wisdom that I have more than any living,

but for their sakes that shall make known the

interpretation to the king, and that thou

mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

31
Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image.

This great image, whose brightness was

excellent, stood before thee; and the form

thereof was terrible.

32
This image's head was of fine gold, his breast

and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs

of brass,

33
His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part

of clay.

34
Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out

without hands, which smote the image upon his

feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them

to pieces.

35
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the

silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together,

and became like the chaff of the summer

threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away,

that no place was found for them: and the stone

that smote the image became a great mountain,

and filled the whole earth.

36
This is the dream; and we will tell the

interpretation thereof before the king.

37
Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God

of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and

strength, and glory.

38
And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the

beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven

hath he given into thine hand, and hath made

thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of

gold.

39
And after thee shall arise another kingdom

inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of

brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:

forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and

subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh

all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

41
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part

of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom

shall be divided; but there shall be in it of

the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou

sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42
And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,

and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly

strong, and partly broken.

43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry

clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed

of men: but they shall not cleave one to

another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44
And in the days of these kings shall the God of

heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be

destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to

other people, but it shall break in pieces and

consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand

for ever.

45
Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut

out of the mountain without hands, and that it

brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay,

the silver, and the gold; the great God hath

made known to the king what shall come to pass

hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the

interpretation thereof sure

-----------

Muhammed as a messenger from God taught the
religion to us and cleared all the things no any

Muslim is confused about his religion , we

Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/ day

------------
Remember that Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/day

Now my question to You:

As you said before, Jesus kept Judaism religion but John 14:6 says "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me "

Does John 14:6 mean that we must bow down to Jesus, does it work with Judaism?

patrick jane
January 13th, 2015, 11:49 PM
That is Good and in agreement with Quran
3:47. Mary said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a

son when no man has touched me." He said: "So

(it will be) for Allah creates what He wills.

When He has decreed something, He says to it

only: "Be!" and it is.

48. And He (Allah) will teach him ['Iesa

(Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the

Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets,

wisdom, etc.), (and) the Taurat (Torah) and the

Injeel (Gospel).

49. And will make him ['Iesa (Jesus)] a

Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): "I

have come to you with a sign from your Lord,

that I design for you out of clay, as it were,

the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and

it becomes a bird by Allah's Leave; and I heal

him who was born blind, and the leper, and I

bring the dead to life by Allah's Leave. And I

inform you of what you eat, and what you store

in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for

you, if you believe.

50. And I have come confirming that which was

before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make

lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you,

and I have come to you with a proof from your

Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.

51. Truly! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so

worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path.
---------
Muhammed"by help of God" destroyed idols in all

Arab region and clean it from idolatery,and

confirmed daniel prophecy about destruction

Persian Imperial who worship other than God

The Bible - Daniel 2:1-45
1
And in the second year of the reign of

Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams,

wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep

brake from him.

2
Then the king commanded to call the magicians,

and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the

Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So

they came and stood before the king.

3
And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a

dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the

dream.

4
Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack,

O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the

dream, and we will shew the interpretation.

5
The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The

thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known

unto me the dream, with the interpretation

thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your

houses shall be made a dunghill.

6
But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation

thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and

rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the

dream, and the interpretation thereof.

7
They answered again and said, Let the king tell

his servants the dream, and we will shew the

interpretation of it.

8
The king answered and said, I know of certainty

that ye would gain the time, because ye see the

thing is gone from me.

9
But if ye will not make known unto me the dream,

there is but one decree for you: for ye have

prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before

me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me

the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me

the interpretation thereof.

10
The Chaldeans answered before the king, and

said, There is not a man upon the earth that can

shew the king's matter: therefore there is no

king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at

any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.

11
And it is a rare thing that the king requireth,

and there is none other that can shew it before

the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not

with flesh.

12
For this cause the king was angry and very

furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise

men of Babylon.

13
And the decree went forth that the wise men

should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his

fellows to be slain.

14
Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to

Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which

was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:

15
He answered and said to Arioch the king's

captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the

king? Then Arioch made the thing known to

Daniel.

16
Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king

that he would give him time, and that he would

shew the king the interpretation.

17
Then Daniel went to his house, and made the

thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,

his companions:

18
That they would desire mercies of the God of

heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and

his fellows should not perish with the rest of

the wise men of Babylon.

19
Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a

night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of

heaven.

20
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of

God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are

his:

21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he

removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth

wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that

know understanding:

22
He revealeth the deep and secret things: he

knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light

dwelleth with him.

23
I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my

fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and

hast made known unto me now what we desired of

thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the

king's matter.

24
Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the

king had ordained to destroy the wise men of

Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy

not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before

the king, and I will shew unto the king the

interpretation.

25
Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in

haste, and said thus unto him, I have found a

man of the captives of Judah, that will make

known unto the king the interpretation.

26
The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name

was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known

unto me the dream which I have seen, and the

interpretation thereof?

27
Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and

said, The secret which the king hath demanded

cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the

magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;

28
But there is a God in heaven that revealeth

secrets, and maketh known to the king

Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days.

Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy

bed, are these;

29
As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy

mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass

hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh

known to thee what shall come to pass.

30
But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me

for any wisdom that I have more than any living,

but for their sakes that shall make known the

interpretation to the king, and that thou

mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

31
Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image.

This great image, whose brightness was

excellent, stood before thee; and the form

thereof was terrible.

32
This image's head was of fine gold, his breast

and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs

of brass,

33
His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part

of clay.

34
Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out

without hands, which smote the image upon his

feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them

to pieces.

35
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the

silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together,

and became like the chaff of the summer

threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away,

that no place was found for them: and the stone

that smote the image became a great mountain,

and filled the whole earth.

36
This is the dream; and we will tell the

interpretation thereof before the king.

37
Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God

of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and

strength, and glory.

38
And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the

beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven

hath he given into thine hand, and hath made

thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of

gold.

39
And after thee shall arise another kingdom

inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of

brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:

forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and

subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh

all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

41
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part

of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom

shall be divided; but there shall be in it of

the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou

sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42
And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,

and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly

strong, and partly broken.

43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry

clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed

of men: but they shall not cleave one to

another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44
And in the days of these kings shall the God of

heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be

destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to

other people, but it shall break in pieces and

consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand

for ever.

45
Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut

out of the mountain without hands, and that it

brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay,

the silver, and the gold; the great God hath

made known to the king what shall come to pass

hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the

interpretation thereof sure

-----------

Muhammed as a messenger from God taught the

religion to Us and clear all the things no any

Muslim isn`t confused about his faith , we

Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/ day

------------
Remember that Muslims bow down to God more than 33 times/day

Now my question to You:

As you said before, Jesus kept Judaism religion but John 14:6 says "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me "

Does John 14:6 mean that we must bow down to Jesus, does it work with Judaism?

EM - i beg you to read The New Testamant - start with Acts thru Jude. study it. understand it. then read the gospels again. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. then you will understand Revelation better. set aside your book for a few weeks and dive into the Christian NT. whatever language is easier for you to read. please, and you may answer your own questions. and have better questions later. your Quran will still be with you, just put it down for a bit. Jesus Christ Is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. the only way to return to God is through Jesus Christ. EVERY knee Shall Bow To Jesus Christ ! ! ! the sooner you know, the better. - :Patrol:

Angel4Truth
January 13th, 2015, 11:57 PM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God

The Quran that says Allah has no son, and Jesus is the Son of God. Compare them and its easily shown which is true and which is false. No wonder your book doesnt ask you to test all things like ours does.


There is no photo for Muhammed. Is it truely the photo of Jesus?

Of course there is no photo of Muhammad or Jesus, there was no such thing as photography when they walked the earth.

Some people liken this to being an image of Christ though:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02521/turin-shroud_2521848b.jpg

JosephR
January 14th, 2015, 05:01 AM
True "after my addition".

Father Abraham has 3 sons.....
the first Born....

The North and The South..

the 3 hate each other yet all three are taught love...

mercy before the Law,spoke Isaiah.Spoken by Jesus and by Muhammad.

the Father is not going to be happy...

egyptianmuslim
January 14th, 2015, 10:17 PM
EM - i beg you to read The New Testamant - start with Acts thru Jude. study it. understand it. then read the gospels again. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. then you will understand Revelation better. set aside your book for a few weeks and dive into the Christian NT. whatever language is easier for you to read. please, and you may answer your own questions. and have better questions later. your Quran will still be with you, just put it down for a bit. Jesus Christ Is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. the only way to return to God is through Jesus Christ. EVERY knee Shall Bow To Jesus Christ ! ! ! the sooner you know, the better. - :Patrol:

I think i read much of Bible and it is good in most cases and in parallel with Quran but the problem is in extremists who interprets their Book according their mood.

egyptianmuslim
January 14th, 2015, 11:10 PM
The Quran that says Allah has no son, and Jesus is the Son of God. Compare them and its easily shown which is true and which is false.

We should not follow the prophet by himself but because of his message "is it from God or not", it is not important for him to be beauteful or not.
We don`t worship Muhammed but we know him from Quran. Quran is different than what was written and cited (HADITH "Muhammed talks") like his own life is not completely true and also is related to the life during this time

Did God send prophets to worship them or Him?

Romans 3:12
And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised

Can you explain the faith of our father Abraham?




No wonder your book doesnt ask you to test all things like ours does.
Not true
Quran usually tells all people to think

4|82|Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

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47|24|Will they then not meditate on the Qur'an, or are there locks on the hearts?

egyptianmuslim
January 14th, 2015, 11:14 PM
Father Abraham has 3 sons.....
the first Born....

The North and The South..

the 3 hate each other yet all three are taught love...

mercy before the Law,spoke Isaiah.Spoken by Jesus and by Muhammad.

the Father is not going to be happy...

Because of people who pour the oil on the fire.

Nazaroo
January 15th, 2015, 06:48 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Xh5PHH9_5XE/VLhfax0ibPI/AAAAAAAAAno/u9wvJvTtR7I/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-12.jpg

Angel4Truth
January 16th, 2015, 02:26 PM
We should not follow the prophet by himself but because of his message "is it from God or not", it is not important for him to be beauteful or not.
We don`t worship Muhammed but we know him from Quran. Quran is different than what was written and cited (HADITH "Muhammed talks") like his own life is not completely true and also is related to the life during this time

Did God send prophets to worship them or Him?

Romans 3:12
And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised

Can you explain the faith of our father Abraham?

Yes, faith in God, not Allah. Jesus is God, not a prophet.





Not true
Quran usually tells all people to think

4|82|Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

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47|24|Will they then not meditate on the Qur'an, or are there locks on the hearts?

Your verse has nothing to do with what i said, but most can agree we have all found much incongruity in the Qur'an and with the message of Mohammed.

Nazaroo
January 16th, 2015, 03:55 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2O7DIYxhx04/VLmIoEfrE7I/AAAAAAAAAn8/Ptx0Jt-PVZE/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-13.jpg

Nazaroo
January 16th, 2015, 05:10 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W9HYtILm9vk/VLmaOdbFRkI/AAAAAAAAAoM/13pDsoRtyps/s1600/Jesus-vs-Mohammed-14.jpg

John Mortimer
January 16th, 2015, 05:20 PM
Fine, let's get to the point....WHY should every Muslim man, woman and child be not erased from this planet?

Nazaroo
January 16th, 2015, 05:36 PM
Fine, let's get to the point....WHY should every Muslim man, woman and child be not erased from this planet?

One thing stands between the living and destruction: God's merciful love:


'“But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness which he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked," says the Lord God, "and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?"

- Ezekiel 18:21-23

Nazaroo
January 17th, 2015, 05:53 AM
"...and that REPENTANCE and forgiveness of sins
be preached to all nations."

Luke 24:47

John Mortimer
January 17th, 2015, 06:49 AM
One thing stands between the living and destruction: God's merciful love:


'“But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness which he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked," says the Lord God, "and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?"

- Ezekiel 18:21-23


I respect your view of this - as you have faith in the power of God to bring about change. The secular governments of the west, however, have no such faith and I don't understand why they are responding in such a lame way to Islam.

Nazaroo
January 17th, 2015, 10:16 AM
I respect your view of this - as you have faith in the power of God to bring about change. The secular governments of the west, however, have no such faith and I don't understand why they are responding in such a lame way to Islam.

Thanks for your response!

Yes, I firmly believe that with the LORD,
all things are possible.

egyptianmuslim
January 17th, 2015, 11:28 AM
Yes, faith in God, not Allah. Jesus is God, not a prophet.






Your verse has nothing to do with what i said, but most can agree we have all found Jesusmuch incongruity in the Qur'an and with the message of Mohammed.

Give examples of incongruity in the Quran and with the message of Mohammed.

Allah is Arabic ,not Islamic, name of God. ie Arabic Bible refers to God by Allah.


Jesus is God or son of Mary??

Nazaroo
January 17th, 2015, 03:21 PM
Give examples of incongruity in the Quran and with the message of Mohammed.


How about Mohammed limited his followers to FOUR wives,
while taking another 20 wives for himself.

egyptianmuslim
January 17th, 2015, 04:22 PM
How about Mohammed limited his followers to FOUR wives,
while taking another 20 wives for himself.
God who did limits not Muhammed, please read SURA AL AHZAB 33:50-52 in Quran:

50. O Prophet (Muhammad )! Verily, We have made(before) lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses - whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your 'Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your 'Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, - in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

51. You (O Muhammad ) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive whom you will. And whomsoever you desire of those whom you have set aside (her turn temporarily), it is no sin on you (to receive her again), that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieved, and may all be pleased with what you give them. Allah knows what is in your hearts. And Allah is Ever All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

52. It is not(now) lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.


Islamic law"SHARE`AH" was established through 23 years not in one day

Nazaroo
January 18th, 2015, 10:35 AM
God who did limits not Muhammed, please read SURA AL AHZAB 33:50-52 in Quran:

50. O Prophet (Muhammad )! Verily, We have made(before) lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses - whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your 'Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your 'Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you,

and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, - in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.



If your "god" Allah actually said this, then its a fair guess that
Allah looks and dresses like this:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/exposure/content/photo/photo/8087_4371_inside-outlaw-bikers-inside-the-outlaws-11_04700300_pec6h7ytenr4mwgxehecgrp6ilncurxrbvj6lw uht2ya6mzmafma_610x389.jpg






51. You (O Muhammad ) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive whom you will. And whomsoever you desire of those whom you have set aside (her turn temporarily), it is no sin on you (to receive her again), that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieved, and may all be pleased with what you give them. Allah knows what is in your hearts. And Allah is Ever All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

Do you imagine for one second that any woman (half the population of earth)
would agree with this in her right mind, if the alternative was true equality
and freedom, as is available in Christian communities and Western democracies?

Are you seriously proposing that anyone in their right mind
could consider this sexist trash to be the Inspired 'word of Allah'?

Because if you do, you must have an IQ lower than 80.

In the West, we call what this describes as a gangster-run WhoreHouse:

http://media.global.tilllate.com/eventpictures//2008/12/06/20081206-TheHouseClubandTerrace-Whorehouse/erijo0f34xtkj947tyuxfde4l_kbi8ub.jpeg





52. It is not (now) lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things.


http://www.thenewagenda.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/RealMen.jpg




Islamic law"SHARE`AH" was established through 23 years not in one day


If the Quran took 23 years to write, it could not have been
written by God, who could dictate it in a couple of hours.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/99kTc0BPRiE/0.jpg


Really girl, I promise! This Quran was written by God!

egyptianmuslim
January 18th, 2015, 03:15 PM
You sent this question:


How about Mohammed limited his followers to FOUR wives,
while taking another 20 wives for himself.
I sent the answer from Quran
But your answer"above" is related only to your life and personality and not related to your original question .
Can any muslim say a bad thing about Jesus or Mary?

Pnevma
January 18th, 2015, 03:45 PM
I liked the chapeter (yes whole chapter) on Mary in the Quran. She seemed to be far more revered than she is in the bible.

egyptianmuslim
January 18th, 2015, 04:14 PM
All Muslim like this part of Quran

Nazaroo
January 18th, 2015, 06:21 PM
All Muslim like this part of Quran

See what we needed was a responsible Muslim saying:

" Muslims hate this part of Quran.
We love women and treat them as equals."

But thats obviouslly not happening today..

egyptianmuslim
January 18th, 2015, 10:38 PM
I liked the chapeter (yes whole chapter) on Mary in the Quran. She seemed to be far more revered than she is in the bible.



All Muslims like this part of Quran



See what we needed was a responsible Muslim saying:

" Muslims hate this part of Quran.
We love women and treat them as equals."

But thats obviouslly not happening today..

Again
Because you are nervous you dont understand my post to Pnevma.

Quran 16|125|Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way. Lo! thy Lord is best aware of him who strayeth from His way, and He is Best Aware of those who go aright.

Nazaroo
January 19th, 2015, 05:43 AM
Again
Because you are nervous you dont understand my post to Pnevma.

Quran 16|125|Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way. Lo! thy Lord is best aware of him who strayeth from His way, and He is Best Aware of those who go aright.

Its too bad that you don't realise that instead of convincing people to be Muslims,
you are convincing them that Muslims are fools.

Are you working for the CIA?

egyptianmuslim
January 19th, 2015, 03:00 PM
That's interesting their God says "Allah is the best of deceivers" that's a negative mark if I ever seen one. Why would I trust this Allahs book then? I won't and can't.

Who did create Satan?
Can God erase Satan and his work? why God does not Do?

Aimiel
January 19th, 2015, 03:09 PM
God created Satan, for His Purposes.

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Crowns&Laurels
January 19th, 2015, 03:11 PM
If the Quran took 23 years to write, it could not have been
written by God, who could dictate it in a couple of hours.


The Bible took about 1500 years

Angel4Truth
January 19th, 2015, 03:19 PM
The Bible took about 1500 years

The books of the bible aren't claimed to be all penned by one man. Theres the difference.

egyptianmuslim
January 19th, 2015, 03:27 PM
God created Satan, for His Purposes.

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Can God erase Satan and stop deceiving?

Nazaroo
January 19th, 2015, 03:58 PM
The Bible took about 1500 years

Here's the thing:

Jews and Christians believe that the Bible is a historical compilation
and collection of earlier texts spanning many centuries.
this circumstance creates translational and historical problems,
as languages change and history evolves.

Muslims believe the Quran was dictated by an angel to Muhammed,
just as Mormons believe their books were dictated by an angel to Joseph Smith.

In the Joseph Smith case,
he claimed to supernaturally translate an Egyptian papyrus into
the "book of Abraham":
it appears from subsequent cracking of Hieroglyphics,
that Joseph Smith did not actually translate his Egyptian scroll
but misrepresented it as it was printed in first editions of his books.
He probably believed at the time that no one would ever crack Hieroglyphics.

http://www.biblequery.org/OtherBeliefs/Mormonism/BookOfAbraham.htm


In the Quran case, many historical anachronisms appear,
reflecting a semi-illiterate Arab's view of history,
but these cannot be explained as due to the accumulation over time
of errors and translational problems of Holy writings, as in the Bible.

Instead it directly reflects on the illiteracy of the messenger,
and the fakery of the message "from Allah".
Would the real Allah (God) be ignorant of historical facts?



History:
The Qur'an Attacks ... Christianity? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/tqachrist.html)
Selling Joseph for a few Dirhams? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/dirham.htm) (before coins were even invented)
Moses and the Samaritan? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/h002.html)
The farthest Mosque? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/h003.html)
Alexander the Great, a Muslim? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/h004.html)
None else was named "John" before John the Baptist? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/J/john.html)
Two Pharaohs who crucified? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/h005.html)
Burnt bricks in Egypt? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/h007.html)
How many gods did the Egyptians worship? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/pharaoh_god.html)
Israel, the Quran and the Promised Land (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/israel_land_egypt.html)
Were they utterly destroyed? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/h006.html)
What kind of book is the Injil? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/injil_what_kind.html)
Jesus was not crucified? (http://www.answering-islam.org/Why-not/10history.html)
The anachronistic title al-`Aziz given to Potiphar (http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/aziz.htm)

Aimiel
January 19th, 2015, 07:16 PM
Can God erase Satan and stop deceiving?Indeed, He can and will. Read Revelation, the last Book of the New Testament. Satan will be arrested for 1,000 years and there will be NO TEMPTATION on earth for that period. Jesus will be on His Throne in Jerusalem in the restored Temple. Then Satan will be let loose to test those who were born during Jesus' Reign over the earth. Then all who have ever lived will be judged and then God will reveal His biggest surprise: a New Heaven and a New Earth, un-spoiled by sin.

Crowns&Laurels
January 19th, 2015, 07:19 PM
The books of the bible aren't claimed to be all penned by one man. Theres the difference.

And so the Bible took 1500 years and many men to write.

The point is that saying it took Mohammad decades to write the Quran just isn't a good argument. Just like how God's revelations to man took time, so to could a Muslim argue that it was the same with Mohammad.

egyptianmuslim
January 19th, 2015, 10:10 PM
Indeed, He can and will. Read Revelation, the last Book of the New Testament. Satan will be arrested for 1,000 years and there will be NO TEMPTATION on earth for that period. Jesus will be on His Throne in Jerusalem in the restored Temple. Then Satan will be let loose to test those who were born during Jesus' Reign over the earth. Then all who have ever lived will be judged and then God will reveal His biggest surprise: a New Heaven and a New Earth, un-spoiled by sin.

Indeed, of course.
God is behind every things occuring in the universe good or evil.

egyptianmuslim
January 19th, 2015, 11:32 PM
If the Quran took 23 years to write, it could not have been written by God, who could dictate it in a couple of hours.
Look to the part of Bible that about life and journey of Moses, how much of time is needed for Moses to know all the commandments/talks of God to him??

Aimiel
January 20th, 2015, 10:26 AM
Indeed, of course.
God is behind every things occuring in the universe good or evil.No. He created evil. He doesn't promote it or ever commit any. He is Holy. He cannot sin. It is against His Nature and Character. He is only Good. There is no evil in Him. He is Perfect. He is rooting for the home team: Heaven. When we become Christian by being born again we join that team. We become citizens of Heaven. We become His sons and daughters. Without a relationship with God through Christ's Blood we have no life in us. We are dead due to our sins. Those who don't believe in Christ are not written in His Book of Life.

egyptianmuslim
January 20th, 2015, 10:14 PM
No. He created evil. He doesn't promote it or ever commit any. He is Holy. He cannot sin. It is against His Nature and Character. He is only Good. There is no evil in Him. He is Perfect. He is rooting for the home team: Heaven. When we become Christian by being born again we join that team. We become citizens of Heaven. We become His sons and daughters. Without a relationship with God through Christ's Blood we have no life in us. We are dead due to our sins. Those who don't believe in Christ are not written in His Book of Life.

Is the work/activity of evil or Satan outside the will of God??

Nazaroo
January 23rd, 2015, 11:13 AM
Is the work/activity of evil or Satan outside the will of God??


The distinction between God's patience with sin
and His approval of sin must be clearly made.

(1) God may allow sin, in the process of an unfolding plan,
removing the power of sinners to change the future, especially Judgement.

(2) God may forgive sins, and intervene to correct sins,
in the process of granting mercy upon sinners, and assisting people
to STOP sinning.

(3) God may warn that certain behaviours will lead to sin,
or prophesy that habitual sins will lead to more sin and/or evil and calamity,
WITHOUT approving of sin.


The problem with Islam and the Quran is that

the difference between
allowing sin to take place, prophesying sin and its consequences,
forgiving sins and correcting mistakes,

is being confused with
God's will and desire that we NOT sin,
God's DISAPPROVAL with sin and those who commit sins,
God's merciful patience, which is NOT infinite,
God's ability to predict sins and their consequences.

If Islam and the Quran someday were to correctly reflect the true nature of
the REAL God, merciful and loving Creator of the Universe,
who does NOT approve of sin,
it would become a real religion, and not a paramilitary cult
made up by a warmongering jerk.

Nazaroo
January 23rd, 2015, 11:41 AM
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Nazaroo
May 20th, 2015, 10:14 AM
It is prohibited by Quran to compare between them because both of them are from God




It is prohibited by the Quran to use your God-given brain, mind and power of logic
to compare Islam and Christianity!

It is prohibited to think.

Move along: nothing to see here.

Trust your overlords.

Don't look at their lizard tails or strange skin.

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Nazaroo
June 6th, 2015, 12:56 PM
And so the Bible took 1500 years and many men to write.

The point is that saying it took Mohammad decades to write the Quran just isn't a good argument. Just like how God's revelations to man took time, so to could a Muslim argue that it was the same with Mohammad.

No, it remains a good argument.

The Quran is still a fake book, a military handbook disguised as a religious book.

The correct comparison would be Moses vs Mohammed.

The real Bible is indeed a collection of writings spanning thousands of years,
and compiled by careful selection of books which passed the test of
authenticity and time.

For instance, Books by prophets successfully prophesied and predicted
stunning events, such as improbable victories and supernatural rescues.

The Law Books appear in a context with Moses performing miracles
and rescuing a people out of slavery which authenticated his claims of
acting for and speaking on behalf of God.

The writings, like David's prayerbooks, or the histories of Esther and Ezra
are public documents describing historical events, as are Kings and Chronicles.

But in all the collected books of the Bible spanning many centuries,
there is a common theme, and that is the serious question of SIN,
and God's problem with the sins of Man and of Israel and individual kings.

Where is that in the Quran?

Some similarities:

(1) Mohammed appears as a representative of God to the Arabs.

(2) Mohammed gives some rules for living and a way of life.

(3) Mohammed piggie-backs on previous dealings between God and Man.

(4) Mohammed authenticates Judaism and Christianity but claims to supercede them.


But here is where the similarity essentially ends.

(1) Moses performs public miracles and convinces both the Israelites AND their enemies that God is real and sovereign.

Mohammed is simply a non-miraculous warlord who uses threats, fear,
and violence to convert people to Islam.

(2) Moses gives a set of moral Laws forming a national criminal code.
Its core is public, objective, unchangeable and requires commitment
through a Covenant with God.

Mohammed offers no new criminal code.
Instead he takes Jewish Law for granted but distorts its practice
so badly that it is mostly negated and or reversed in its practical impact.
Adultery becomes legal through Jihad, by killing husbands (Murder).
Idolatry is tolerated at Mecca, but not tolerated anywhere else.
Theft is sanctioned through Jihad, but over-punished in Muslim society.
Safeguards against False Witness are sabotaged through systemic sexism.
Whereas the Law of Moses is designed to control excesses in servitude,
and end slavery, and the law is equally applied to everyone,
Mohammed creates an elite and privileged class, namely Muslim males.
All others have servant status or no status, are under a death penalty,
or are exploited to serve Muslims.

(3) Moses Identifies with previous interactions by the Biblical God,
and maintains a continuity and consistency of behaviour.

Mohammed however, changes the nature and behaviour of God,
so that it is impossible to identify God with the Islamic "Allah".
The Islamic "Allah" is no longer concerned with sin as a universal problem,
but only commitment to joining the 'right side'.
All sinful behaviour is now regulated and channelled into 'Jihad'.
Its okay to murder, rape, steal non-believers, foreigners, non-conformists.
There is no obligation to be honest with unbelievers,
and heretics and infidels are not reasoned with, but simply murdered.
Turncoats, traitors, betrayers, liars, frauds, are rewarded as long as
they are switching sides to Islam.
The morality and ethics of the Islamic God, "Allah" have become tribal,
sectarian, sexist, near-sighted, and materialistic,
simply reflecting the concerns of greedy Arab leaders.
Heaven is no longer a place of real peace, holiness, and integrity,
but a playground for sexual perverts.

(4) Moses uptdates, supersedes or expands previous Covenants,
but doesn't change the moral and legal obligations.

Mohammed no longer has any sense of Biblical 'Covenant'.
Islam is not a covenant with a particular people or with a group
committed to a moral standard or contract.
Islam is just a murderous criminal gang or outlaw army,
which seeks members and wealth, expansion of territory and earthly power.
There is no sense of service to humankind, or obligation to maintain peace
with outsiders.
There is no sense of obligation to enlighten unbelievers other
than threaten to kill them for non-conversion
and take their wives and property.

(5) Islam is not a true advance of religion in the way that Christianity is.

Whereas Christianity attempts to take the best of Judaic Religion,
and expand it become a universal application for all,
Islam is actually an ignorant and retroversion back to tribal standards
of morality and materialistic ethics of the most primitive and backward kind.

Nazaroo
December 28th, 2015, 11:44 PM
I've made a public .pdf file you can download free for all these great pictures.

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Apple7
December 28th, 2015, 11:52 PM
The Koranic 'Muhammad' is an epithet referring to the Biblical Jesus.