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Squeaky
January 6th, 2015, 04:39 PM
ONLY GUARANTEE (HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES) (JUSTIFICATION)
Deut 13:1-3 OLD TESTAMENT
1 "If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
2 "and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, 'Let us go after other gods'-- which you have not known--' and let us serve them,'
3 "you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

II Th 2:9-11 NEW TESTAMENT
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
1 Tim 6:20-21
20 O Timothy! Guard what was committed to your trust, avoiding the profane and idle babble and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge--
21 by professing it some have strayed concerning the faith. Grace be with you. Amen.
2 Cor 1:21-22
21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God,
22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Eph 1:13-16
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
15 Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,
16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers:
John 5:37
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
Matt 5:45
45 "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
John 1:17-18
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Matt 12:18-21
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
21 And in His name Gentiles will trust."
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
John 14:24-26
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 5:4-5
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
(NKJ)
xxx There is ONLY one guaranteed message from God for today, the Holy Spirit and He only quotes verses. And Christ came to make a way that we can have our own Holy Spirit to teach us. And the new testament is the authority of Jesus Christ. We dont even keep the old testament or those who say thus sayest the Lord. We submit to the new testament Holy Spirit that only quotes verses from the new testament. We live and abide in the doctrine of Christ.

II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

xxx And anyone who knows the Holy Spirit on a personal basis, would want to prove the Holy Spirit was leading them by showing the verses that the Holy Spirit motivated them with to speak. We as born again christians knows the importance of proving the Holy Spirit is leading us. There is only one guarantee in the whole bible. Walking after the Holy Spirit that only quotes verses.

Rom 12:2
2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
(NKJ)

1 Cor 2:10
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
(NKJ)

1Thes 5:21
21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
(NKJ)

2 Cor 13:5-6
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.
6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.
(NKJ)


Gal 1:6-12
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
(NKJ)

I Jn 4:4-13
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.
(NKJ)

john w
January 6th, 2015, 04:50 PM
" Scripture is new testament.......I said It was of use to the Jews. It is of no use to us. The old testament is of no use to us"-Squeaky666


EOT. DOA. RIP. CLOSED. SHUT DOWN. CONDEMNED THREAD. DO NOT ENTER.

Squeaky
January 6th, 2015, 06:59 PM
" Scripture is new testament.......I said It was of use to the Jews. It is of no use to us. The old testament is of no use to us"-Squeaky666


EOT. DOA. RIP. CLOSED. SHUT DOWN. CONDEMNED THREAD. DO NOT ENTER.

I said
Well you go and tell Jesus that and let me know how it comes out.
I guess you want to put that 666 next to Jesus' name also.

John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)

You will have to put the 666 beside John's name also.

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

Squeaky
January 6th, 2015, 07:16 PM
" Scripture is new testament.......I said It was of use to the Jews. It is of no use to us. The old testament is of no use to us"-Squeaky666


EOT. DOA. RIP. CLOSED. SHUT DOWN. CONDEMNED THREAD. DO NOT ENTER.

I said
Well here is another one that you can lable.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

john w
January 7th, 2015, 02:33 PM
I said
Well you go and tell Jesus that and let me know how it comes out.
I guess you want to put that 666 next to Jesus' name also.

John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)

You will have to put the 666 beside John's name also.

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

" Scripture is new testament.......I said It was of use to the Jews. It is of no use to us. The old testament is of no use to us"-Squeaky666


Sssssssssssssssssssssss......

john w
January 7th, 2015, 02:36 PM
"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien


Vs.

Romans 9:17 KJV
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Exodus 9:16 KJV
And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

Squealie666:Scripture did not say unto Paroah, "cuz" scripture is not Old Testament, even though it says


"For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh,"


...as "Pharoah" was a "new testament" pharoah...

john w
January 7th, 2015, 02:44 PM
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,....................And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears."

Vs.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien


Damien:I said lol I'll say it real slow. The book of the prophet Esaias, "this scripture," from which the Lord Jesus Christ read, whom I refer to as "Jesus," like all his enemies did, is in the new testament.


The poor fool does not see, that the Lord Jesus Christ referred to the "the book of the prophet Esaias," which is from the Old Testament, as "scripture,"i.e., this day is this scripture, referring to the OT book of Isaiah, "fulfilled in your ears."


"this scripture"=asserting that the prophecy from the book of Isaiah, from which he was reading, was partially fulfilled.

vs.

"Scripture is new testament.-you


Contrasts. Sit down.

Thunder's Muse
January 7th, 2015, 02:47 PM
I'll have to read this when I'm not so tired

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 02:52 PM
" Scripture is new testament.......I said It was of use to the Jews. It is of no use to us. The old testament is of no use to us"-Squeaky666


Sssssssssssssssssssssss......

I said
Well duh that is what it says. You must have another God. Rather than the one in the Word of God.

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

john w
January 7th, 2015, 02:55 PM
"Scripture is new testament.......I said It was of use to the Jews. It is of no use to us. The old testament is of no use to us"-Squeaky666


Vs. the Lord Jesus Christ, quoting the OT:

Mt. 19 KJV
1 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of JudŠa beyond Jordan; 2 and great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?


Contrasts.

john w
January 7th, 2015, 02:59 PM
I said
Well duh that is what it says. You must have another God. Rather than the one in the Word of God.

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,....................And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears."

Vs.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 03:00 PM
"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien


Vs.

Romans 9:17 KJV
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Exodus 9:16 KJV
And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

Squealie666:Scripture did not say unto Paroah, "cuz" scripture is not Old Testament, even though it says


"For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh,"


...as "Pharoah" was a "new testament" pharoah...

I said
lol The word scripture is only used in the new testament. You don't see it in Exodus now do you. But when it is written in the new testament it becomes scripture.
That bitter envy will destroy you. You really should give it up.

SaulToPaul
January 7th, 2015, 03:01 PM
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,....................And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears."

Vs.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien

Squeaky vs Saint John W, the Great


This is not a fair fight. Like Barn vs Ernest T.

Ange- "He'd kill you."

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 03:02 PM
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,....................And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears."

Vs.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien


I said
Well if you have been blinded I cant help you. Your going to have to take that up with God. Again if it is written in the new testament no matter where it comes from it is scripture.

Thunder's Muse
January 7th, 2015, 03:08 PM
I thought 'scripture' meant the whole Bible?

Tambora
January 7th, 2015, 03:34 PM
Squeaky vs Saint John W, the Great


This is not a fair fight. Like Barn vs Ernest T.

Ange- "He'd kill you."
Nobody does it better.
Makes me feel sad for the rest.

john w
January 7th, 2015, 03:49 PM
Squeaky vs Saint John W, the Great


This is not a fair fight. Like Barn vs Ernest T.

Ange- "He'd kill you."

As JR Ewing once said" I told you(Squeaky) that I would destroy you, and I have, you just don't realize it yet."


Another one bites the dust....Queen John W...Wait....strike that.......

john w
January 7th, 2015, 03:53 PM
Nobody does it better.
Makes me feel sad for the rest.

And I'm so vain....and humble...

Lazy afternoon
January 7th, 2015, 04:36 PM
And I'm so vain....and humble...

You are full of demons, John.

Anyone who is truly saved knows that.

LA

Lazy afternoon
January 7th, 2015, 04:45 PM
xxx There is ONLY one guaranteed message from God for today, the Holy Spirit and He only quotes verses. And Christ came to make a way that we can have our own Holy Spirit to teach us. And the new testament is the authority of Jesus Christ. We dont even keep the old testament or those who say thus sayest the Lord. We submit to the new testament Holy Spirit that only quotes verses from the new testament. We live and abide in the doctrine of Christ.

II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

xxx And anyone who knows the Holy Spirit on a personal basis, would want to prove the Holy Spirit was leading them by showing the verses that the Holy Spirit motivated them with to speak. We as born again christians knows the importance of proving the Holy Spirit is leading us. There is only one guarantee in the whole bible. Walking after the Holy Spirit that only quotes verses.

)

If that is the only way safe for you then I am sure the Lord will comply for your sake.

The Lord can speak anyway He wants but in agreement with what He has said in the past.

Take no notice of the demon possessed John W and his supporters who do not know Christ's voice at all.

They think to know when Christ did not speak to someone else, but He never speaks to them, they admit.

LA

john w
January 7th, 2015, 05:40 PM
You are full of demons, John.

Anyone who is truly saved knows that.

LA

Wow, Bel-ette! You've floored me again, with imitating me. I'm honored. But I'm not interested, in children of the devil, such as you, Bel-ette.


"truly saved"=you vile Roman Catholic clone-next up-"devout Christian"


Peek a boo.....members of the body of Christ see you, daughter of the devil, and "spiritual" sister of Cain.

john w
January 7th, 2015, 05:40 PM
If that is the only way safe for you then I am sure the Lord will comply for your sake.

The Lord can speak anyway He wants but in agreement with what He has said in the past.

Take no notice of the demon possessed John W and his supporters who do not know Christ's voice at all.

They think to know when Christ did not speak to someone else, but He never speaks to them, they admit.

LA

You Christ rejecting perverter.

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 06:45 PM
I thought 'scripture' meant the whole Bible?

I said
The word scriptures only shows up in the new testament. And the word scripture is only found in one verse in the old testament. And that verse is speaking of the future-new testament.

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 06:48 PM
As JR Ewing once said" I told you(Squeaky) that I would destroy you, and I have, you just don't realize it yet."


Another one bites the dust....Queen John W...Wait....strike that.......

I said
ROFLOL Oh poor john you poor child. You cant destroy me or any true believer.

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 06:54 PM
As JR Ewing once said" I told you(Squeaky) that I would destroy you, and I have, you just don't realize it yet."


Another one bites the dust....Queen John W...Wait....strike that.......

I said
You still have so much to learn.
Jesus CONDEMNS Heckling(persecution)

Luke 9:50
50 But Jesus said to him, "Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side."
Luke 9:47-49
47 And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a little child and set him by Him,
48 and said to them, "Whoever receives this little child in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me receives Him who sent Me. For he who is least among you all will be great."
49 Now John answered and said, "Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us."
Luke 9:54-56
54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?"
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of.
56 "For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them." And they went to another village.
1 Pet 2:15-17
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.
James 1:19-22
19 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;
20 for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.
21 Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
Matt 27:27-34
27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole garrison around Him.
28 And they stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him.
29 When they had twisted a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand. And they bowed the knee before Him and mocked Him, saying, "Hail, King of the Jews!"
30 Then they spat on Him, and took the reed and struck Him on the head.
31 And when they had mocked Him, they took the robe off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him away to be crucified.
32 Now as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name. Him they compelled to bear His cross.
33 And when they had come to a place called Golgotha, that is to say, Place of a Skull,
34 they gave Him sour wine mingled with gall to drink. But when He had tasted it, He would not drink.
Matt 27:35-37
35 Then they crucified Him, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet: "They divided My garments among them, and for My clothing they cast lots."
36 Sitting down, they kept watch over Him there.
37 And they put up over His head the accusation written against Him: THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
Matt 23:24-30
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
25 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
26 "Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness.
28 "Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,
30 "and say, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.'
Matt 23:31-36
31 "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' guilt.
33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
34 "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city,
35 "that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
(NKJ)

XXXXX Jesus condemns heckling anyone. If you feel the urge to heckle anyone you are driven by the devil. Insults, name calling, judging carnally. You dont have the authority to condemn anyone. All your doing is proving that your not with Jesus. Or His followers because they are the ones that get persecuted. And your doing the persecution.

1 Tim 3:7
7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
(NKJ)


Matt 5:11-12
11 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
12 "Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
(NKJ)

Matt 5:44-48
44 "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
45 "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 "For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47 "And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
48 "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
(NKJ)

Matt 10:23-27
23 "When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
24 "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master.
25 "It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!
26 "Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.
27 "Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear in the ear, preach on the housetops.
(NKJ)

john w
January 7th, 2015, 07:00 PM
I said
The word scriptures only shows up in the new testament. And the word scripture is only found in one verse in the old testament. And that verse is speaking of the future-new testament.

What a mess. Matthew-John, prior to the dbr, is Old Testament, Damien.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien

Made up.

Daniel 10:21 KJV

But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

john w
January 7th, 2015, 07:11 PM
I said
ROFLOL Oh poor john you poor child. You cant destroy me or any true believer.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien


Vs.

Romans 9:17 KJV
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Exodus 9:16 KJV
And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.


Squealie666:Scripture did not say unto Paroah, "cuz" scripture is not Old Testament, even though it says


"For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh,"


...as "Pharoah" was a "new testament" pharoah...

john w
January 7th, 2015, 07:17 PM
I said
Well if you have been blinded I cant help you. Your going to have to take that up with God. Again if it is written in the new testament no matter where it comes from it is scripture.

"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,....................And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture (referring to the OT book of Esaisas/Isaiah-my note)fulfilled in your ears."

Vs.

"Scripture is new testament.."-Squealie Damien

Lazy afternoon
January 7th, 2015, 08:08 PM
I said
You still have so much to learn.
Jesus CONDEMNS Heckling(persecution)


XXXXX Jesus condemns heckling anyone. If you feel the urge to heckle anyone you are driven by the devil. Insults, name calling, judging carnally. You dont have the authority to condemn anyone. All your doing is proving that your not with Jesus. Or His followers because they are the ones that get persecuted. And your doing the persecution.

1 Tim 3:7
7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
(NKJ)


Matt 5:11-12
11 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.
12 "Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
(NKJ)

)

The spirit of John W hates true Christians.

He is not born from above, John W is full of demons.

LA

Squeaky
January 7th, 2015, 09:00 PM
The spirit of John W hates true Christians.

He is not born from above, John W is full of demons.

LA

I said
lol Your right he is an idiot when it comes to scripture.

SaulToPaul
January 8th, 2015, 07:07 AM
He is not born from above, John W is full of demons.

LA

You're an ignoramus, with a false Christ who isn't God, and an anti- gospel.

Lazy afternoon
January 9th, 2015, 02:22 AM
You're an ignoramus, with a false Christ who isn't God, and an anti- gospel.

You are a filthy liar in your sins, who claims people lie when they tell you God speaks to them.

You do not know the Lord at all. You are a religious fake if the Lord never speaks to you.

and that makes you unsaved, the same as John W.

LA

SaulToPaul
January 9th, 2015, 08:21 AM
and that makes you unsaved, the same as John W.

LA

I believe 1 Cor 15:1-4 and trusted the LORD.
Have you?

You can be saved right now.

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 08:25 AM
You're an ignoramus, with a false Christ who isn't God, and an anti- gospel.

Yep! He/she is an odd one!

SaulToPaul
January 9th, 2015, 08:30 AM
Yep! He/she is an odd one!

LA fancies itself as super spiritual with an inside track on all things.
No one else but LA has such a close relationship with the LORD.

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 08:39 AM
You are a filthy liar in your sins, who claims people lie when they tell you God speaks to them.

You do not know the Lord at all. You are a religious fake if the Lord never speaks to you.

and that makes you unsaved, the same as John W.

LA

God can speak to us through His "Word" (The Holy Bible) or
in our heart however, if you're hearing an "audible" voice
out of nowhere, perhaps it's time to see a mental health
professional? You're kind of strange anyway! You go around
TOL, making "death predictions" about fellow posters! So,
there's reason to wonder about your mental stability anyway?

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 08:46 AM
LA, I've asked you before, if it was an "audible" voice you hear, and
you won't answer! If you're not really hearing an "audible voice" yet,
making it sound like you are, then you're being deceitful! Which is it,
are you hearing an "audible voice" or, are you just being deceitful?

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 08:51 AM
You are full of demons, John.

Anyone who is truly saved knows that.

LA

Is this one of YOUR insightful predictions? Will you be predicting
JWs demise next? JW just has his own, unique "writing style!" You
may not approve of it but, that doesn't mean he's possessed? You,
and at least one other poster around TOL, has gone around
saying, certain posters are possessed!

SaulToPaul
January 9th, 2015, 08:59 AM
Is this one of YOUR insightful predictions? Will you be predicting
JWs demise next? JW just has his own, unique "writing style!" You
may not approve of it but, that doesn't mean he's possessed? You,
and at least one other poster around TOL, has gone around
saying, certain posters are possessed!

LA would love to push saint john w, the great, off of a cliff into the sea like the herd of swine.

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 09:00 AM
The spirit of John W hates true Christians.

He is not born from above, John W is full of demons.

LA

And, you are "full of baloney!"

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 09:22 AM
You really have to look into the Bible to see how the, "demon possessed" act!
What are the "physical symptoms?" Here's one account from the Bible; (Mark 9:22) "And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us."

As you can see, the 'demon' within sought to 'destroy' the person physical!

Another example was, (Mark 5:1-20) Mark 5:1-20King James Version (KJV)

5 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.

6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.

12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.

13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.

15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.

17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.

18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.

19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.

20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel."

The 'demon possessed' victims appear to be, violent, self destructive, and
have super human strength, for the most part!

Grosnick Marowbe
January 9th, 2015, 09:23 AM
LA, have you seen JW display any of these "symptoms?"

SaulToPaul
January 9th, 2015, 09:32 AM
The 'demon possessed' victims appear to be, violent, self destructive, and
have super human strength, for the most part!

I saw saint john w whoop 5 men at one time a few years ago at the Esquire Club.

SaulToPaul
January 9th, 2015, 10:43 AM
Is this one of YOUR insightful predictions? Will you be predicting
JWs demise next? JW just has his own, unique "writing style!" You
may not approve of it but, that doesn't mean he's possessed? You,
and at least one other poster around TOL, has gone around
saying, certain posters are possessed!

LA posts doctrines of devils daily.

Tambora
January 9th, 2015, 11:08 AM
I saw saint john w whoop 5 men at one time a few years ago at the Esquire Club.It's clobbering time!

Squeaky
January 15th, 2015, 11:23 AM
You really have to look into the Bible to see how the, "demon possessed" act!
What are the "physical symptoms?" Here's one account from the Bible; (Mark 9:22) "And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us."

As you can see, the 'demon' within sought to 'destroy' the person physical!

Another example was, (Mark 5:1-20) Mark 5:1-20King James Version (KJV)

5 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.

6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.

12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.

13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.

15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.

17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.

18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.

19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.

20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel."

The 'demon possessed' victims appear to be, violent, self destructive, and
have super human strength, for the most part!

I said
You should compare yourself to Judas.

Mark 14:10
10 Then Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve, went to the chief priests to betray Him to them.
(NKJ)


John 6:70-71
70 Jesus answered them, "Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?"
71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.
(NKJ)

Squeaky
September 10th, 2016, 04:20 AM
This board is starting to look like a morgue. Is everyone afraid to speak their minds?

God's Truth
September 10th, 2016, 04:58 AM
The topic of the thread is: The Only Guaranteed Teacher in The Whole Bible.

That is true to the point being the Holy Spirit is our teacher.

However, you have not been more careful, for you go beyond what is written.

You were not more careful and you let yourself be ensnared by Satan.

Squeaky
September 15th, 2016, 12:22 PM
The topic of the thread is: The Only Guaranteed Teacher in The Whole Bible.

That is true to the point being the Holy Spirit is our teacher.

However, you have not been more careful, for you go beyond what is written.

You were not more careful and you let yourself be ensnared by Satan.

I said
We used to have to prove our accusations with the Word. That doesn't seem to hold true anymore.
Ofcourse you know if your wrong your bearing false witness.

God's Truth
September 15th, 2016, 12:27 PM
I said
We used to have to prove our accusations with the Word. That doesn't seem to hold true anymore.
Ofcourse you know if your wrong your bearing false witness.

Some people are blind and do not know.

Squeaky
September 15th, 2016, 03:13 PM
Some people are blind and do not know.

I said
That is so true. But the only way to prove we have the support of the Holy Spirit is by sharing the verses He gives us.

dodge
September 16th, 2016, 06:49 AM
I said
The word scriptures only shows up in the new testament. And the word scripture is only found in one verse in the old testament. And that verse is speaking of the future-new testament.

Jesus recognized the OT as scripture.


Luk 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Squeaky
September 16th, 2016, 08:15 AM
Here is one of the revelations of Jesus Christ.

ABOUT THE OLD TESTAMENT
FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
2 Cor 3:14-15
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 4:4-5
4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
1 Cor 10:1-12
1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
3 all ate the same spiritual food,
4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.
7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play."
8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;
9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents;
10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come.
12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Rom 13:8
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
John 4:23-24
23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
John 3:35-36
35 "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.
36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3-8
3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,
4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Gal 2:19-21
19 "For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.
20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 3:24-25
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
Gal 5:1-5
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 4:21
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law?
Rom 7:4-6
4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another-- to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.
6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
Rom 13:10
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
1 Pet 2:19-21
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
John 1:17
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
(NKJ)

xxx Jesus wants everyone who is going to be a christian to understand that the new covenant(testament) is just that new. That you cant go back and keep any part of the old testament that Jesus hasnt brought over to the new testament. Jesus new what to bring over man doesnt. But the old testament has to be obsolete to you in order for you to get the fullness of the new testament. 11John 1-9 is very specific if you dont abide(live) in the new testament you dont have the real God. There IS a veil over the old testament that remains to THIS day.
If Jesus were in the old testament this verse could only be meant for God and the angels. But Jesus wasnt in the old testament.

John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

xxx Jesus nailed the old testament to the cross. If you have nailed the old testament to your cross, you are in Christianity.

Col 2:13-14
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
(NKJ)

Acts 15:10
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
(NKJ)

Acts 15:24-29
24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
(NKJ)


Rom 2:1-29

1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.
2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things.
3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?
4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds":
7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;
8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-- indignation and wrath,
9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek;
10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
11 For there is no partiality with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
(NKJ)


Heb 8:7
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
(NKJ)

Heb 10:1

1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
(NKJ)


Col 2:11-14
11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
(NKJ)


Heb 10:9
9 then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." He takes away the first that He may establish the second.
(NKJ)


Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
Luke 16:13
13 "No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon."


Gal 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them."
(NKJ)


Rom 7:1-4
1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives?
2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.
4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another-- to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
(NKJ)

Rom 11:28
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.
(NKJ)

Gal 5:11
11 And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased.
(NKJ)



xxx Jesus nailed the old testament to the cross. If you have nailed the old testament to your cross, you are in Christianity.

Squeaky
October 15th, 2016, 12:22 PM
How many in here can have a conversation with the Holy Spirit?

Danoh
October 15th, 2016, 01:01 PM
How many in here can have a conversation with the Holy Spirit?

If you mean open up the Bible and there He is...speaking through His Word...then sign me up.

2 Peter 1:14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me. 1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance. 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

On the other hand, if you mean some sort of a sense of a so called still small voice, emotions, imaginings and all such other notions that ignorance, superstition, rationalizing, and empirical "evidence" of fools rely on...then nope, I'll pass.

Been there, done that, traced out it's recurrent patterns back to all the above fool sources in light of the rightly divided Word...and am no longer bound by them...have at it...Squeaky doctrine.

Knock yourself...out...literally.

1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual [gifts], brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

Squeaky
October 15th, 2016, 02:01 PM
Very good. I'm impressed. Do you realize the Holy Spirit only quotes verses?

ok doser
October 15th, 2016, 02:35 PM
Very good. I'm impressed. Do you realize the Holy Spirit only quotes verses?

:doh:

you're

a

retard

Danoh
October 15th, 2016, 03:06 PM
:doh:

you're

a

retard

Lol...I used to know a guy like him.

He'd verbally assert the exact same foolishness and then verbally misqoute a passage...:chuckle:

Then, because I would pause and just look over at his sheer ignorance of the obvious; he'd get this stupid look on his face as he'd quietly say "You have nothing to say now; do you?"

The moron would actually conclude he was on to something :crackup:

Used to crack me up to no end.

:rotfl:

Rosenritter
October 15th, 2016, 03:13 PM
Here is one of the revelations of Jesus Christ.

ABOUT THE OLD TESTAMENT
FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.


He said the old covenant was obsolete, not the scripture that contained the record of the old covenant. Look at that passage carefully and note that the word covenant has not the same meaning as the word scripture.

Hebrews 8:13 KJV
(13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

The scripture contains many things, including the Covenant with Israel which is written in the part of scripture that we call the books of Moses. None of the scripture became obsolete or passed into a class of "not scripture." It should be self evident that the books of the Old Testament remain scripture.

Isaiah 28:16 KJV
(16) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

1 Peter 2:6 KJV
(6) Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

2 Peter 1:19-21 KJV
(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
(21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

....

I could add on that Timothy would have had access to the Old Testament, and not the New, and Paul himself called the Old Testament scripture.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 KJV
(15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
(16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

If you consider Paul's writings scripture (as per 2 Peter 3:16 KJV) you may always want to consider that he considered the Old Testament scripture, and valuable to the Christian as well.

Squeaky
October 15th, 2016, 06:17 PM
:doh:

you're

a

retard


I'm starting to think one of us is.

Squeaky
October 15th, 2016, 06:21 PM
lol One verse. There are many in that revelation. Here is one that will cover all of the rest.


John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)

Interplanner
October 15th, 2016, 09:27 PM
He said the old covenant was obsolete, not the scripture that contained the record of the old covenant. Look at that passage carefully and note that the word covenant has not the same meaning as the word scripture.

Hebrews 8:13 KJV
(13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

The scripture contains many things, including the Covenant with Israel which is written in the part of scripture that we call the books of Moses. None of the scripture became obsolete or passed into a class of "not scripture." It should be self evident that the books of the Old Testament remain scripture.

Isaiah 28:16 KJV
(16) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

1 Peter 2:6 KJV
(6) Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

2 Peter 1:19-21 KJV
(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
(21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

....

I could add on that Timothy would have had access to the Old Testament, and not the New, and Paul himself called the Old Testament scripture.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 KJV
(15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
(16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

If you consider Paul's writings scripture (as per 2 Peter 3:16 KJV) you may always want to consider that he considered the Old Testament scripture, and valuable to the Christian as well.


But if you mean to take the 'restoration' to the 'land' and say that's different from all the old covenant items, it breaks down. The land doesn't matter that way in the NT. There is no tie-in to the land because the Christian message is entirely transcultural and portable. I don't know how Judaism could be restored without being in the land; ie, it would not work in Atlanta. But the NT doesn't care about that.

Squeaky
October 16th, 2016, 04:57 AM
There is no land with the new testament. The kingdom of God, the throne, the alter is all inside of us.

Squeaky
March 31st, 2017, 04:29 AM
There is only one guaranteed teacher in the whole bible. The Holy Spirit.