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chrysostom
November 19th, 2014, 08:51 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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the apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102616)

Truster
November 19th, 2014, 09:30 AM
What a load of farcical nonsense.

resodko
March 25th, 2015, 10:34 AM
farcical (adj.) 1716, from farce + -ical, perhaps on the model of comical. Related: Farcically.

:think:


farce (n.) late 14c., "force-meat, stuffing;" 1520s, in the dramatic sense "ludicrous satire; low comedy," from Middle French farce "comic interlude in a mystery play" (16c.), literally "stuffing," from Old French farcir "to stuff," (13c.), from Latin farcire "to stuff, cram," which is of uncertain origin, perhaps from PIE *bhrekw- "to cram together," and thus related to frequens "crowded."
... for a farce is that in poetry which grotesque is in a picture. The persons and action of a farce are all unnatural, and the manners false, that is, inconsisting with the characters of mankind. [Dryden, "A Parallel of Poetry and Painting"]
According to OED and other sources, the pseudo-Latin farsia was applied 13c. in France and England to praise phrases inserted into liturgical formulae (for example between kyrie and eleison) at the principal festivals, then in Old French farce was extended to the impromptu buffoonery among actors that was a feature of religious stage plays. Generalized sense of "a ridiculous sham" is from 1690s in English.

:think:

https://d2k9njawademcf.cloudfront.net/indeximages/16860/original/P1010036.jpg?1403254798

Caledvwlch
March 25th, 2015, 10:37 AM
Will there be a planet-shattering asteroid impact in this apocalypse?

resodko
March 25th, 2015, 10:38 AM
that's omega's apocalypse

chrysostom
March 25th, 2015, 10:39 AM
Will there be a planet-shattering asteroid impact in this apocalypse?

don't know
but
I really doubt it

I just look at history
and
not the future

that is what you should do

Caledvwlch
March 25th, 2015, 10:40 AM
that's omega's apocalypse

I like the space-rock death for all apocalypse. But I don't speak the same language as omega.

Caledvwlch
March 25th, 2015, 10:41 AM
don't know
but
I really doubt it

I just look at history
and
not the future

that is what you should do

I am reading a history of England's Plantagenet dynasty... does that count?

resodko
March 25th, 2015, 10:41 AM
don't know
but
I really doubt it

I just look at history
and
not the future

that is what you should do



it's hard to look at the future

all those flying cars keep blocking the view

resodko
March 25th, 2015, 10:42 AM
I am reading a history of England's Plantagenet dynasty... does that count?

named after a broom :chuckle:

honorary royalty of curlers everywhere


different broom, actually :chuckle:

http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/2011/04/23/DMersh/4e7678.jpg

Caledvwlch
March 25th, 2015, 10:42 AM
it's hard to look at the future

all those flying cars keep blocking the view

http://brocouncil.com/images/stories/Articles/2012/05may/hoverboard-coming-soon.jpg

Caledvwlch
March 25th, 2015, 10:43 AM
named after a broom :chuckle:

honorary royalty of curlers everywhere

:chuckle: Which reminds me of another Back to the Future tie-in.

resodko
March 27th, 2015, 11:13 AM
:think:

JosephR
March 27th, 2015, 11:25 AM
Will there be a planet-shattering asteroid impact in this apocalypse?

i think there may be a pole shift in there :)

the day and night will loose a third of its time, the only way I can figure that is a pole shift.

Caledvwlch
March 27th, 2015, 11:29 AM
i think there may be a pole shift in there :)

the day and night will loose a third of its time, the only way I can figure that is a pole shift.

And the earth's rotation suddenly getting 33% faster.

chrysostom
May 31st, 2015, 08:25 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

now under construction

back to

the apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102616)

to my knowledge
no one has ever attempted something like this
you may not understand the apocalypse
if
you cannot connect the dots

iamaberean
May 31st, 2015, 08:39 AM
chrysostom,

You do just what all false prophecy teachers do. You put your own interpretation to the book of Revelation instead of using scripture.

chrysostom
May 31st, 2015, 08:43 AM
chrysostom,

You do just what all false prophecy teachers do. You put your own interpretation to the book of Revelation instead of using scripture.

so what is your interpretation?

chrysostom
May 31st, 2015, 08:50 AM
chrysostom,

You do just what all false prophecy teachers do. You put your own interpretation to the book of Revelation instead of using scripture.

are you suggesting the prophecy of the apocalypse was fulfilled prior to the first publication of the bible?
that would make you a preterist
are you?
if not
only history can tell you where it has been fulfilled
right?

iamaberean
May 31st, 2015, 01:20 PM
so what is your interpretation?

My interpretation is this:
The book of Revelation was written to the 7 churches of Asia.
How do I know that? Because that is to whom it was addressed.

Jesus said several times, in this book, "I come quickly". False prophets make that out to be thousands of years.

Jesus said judgment was coming upon the 12 tribes of Israel.
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Revelation speaks of that judgment.
How do i know that? Because they that were judged were judged according to their works. That would be Jews, those that had been under the law.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

The age of Law is over. We live under Grace. When we believed our sins were forgiven. How do I know that? Because that is what happens when we believe. There is no need to judge someone who has no unforgiven sins
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

The only way that these things can be proven is with scripture. Did the scriptures I quoted say so? You should believe it!

Anto9us
May 31st, 2015, 06:35 PM
I am partially convinced that full preterism is true...

"are you suggesting the prophecy of the apocalypse was fulfilled prior to the first publication of the bible? "

'first publication of the bible' -- non-sequiter


aren't we agreed that Athanasius first LISTED the 27 NT books in an easter letter about 3 hunnered A D ?

and we all know that even today the OT is disputed among Cathies, Orthos and Prots - right?

39 to 49 OT books

if most of it was over in 70 ad -- that makes it easier

Anto9us
May 31st, 2015, 06:39 PM
we do know this --early church fathers were Pre MILLENNIALISTS

no - not preTRIB, no - but "pre Mill" - yes

the 1000 year reign is only described in Revelation in the Bible

but in non-canonical works is described

in one - it is 400 yeers - not 1000

so

like Daniel

pieces of Revelation were written maybe centuries apart

iamaberean
June 3rd, 2015, 04:26 AM
I am partially convinced that full preterism is true...

"are you suggesting the prophecy of the apocalypse was fulfilled prior to the first publication of the bible? "

'first publication of the bible' -- non-sequiter


aren't we agreed that Athanasius first LISTED the 27 NT books in an easter letter about 3 hunnered A D ?

and we all know that even today the OT is disputed among Cathies, Orthos and Prots - right?

39 to 49 OT books

if most of it was over in 70 ad -- that makes it easier

All prophecy was fulfilled at 70 AD. The bible is made up of the books, letters, that had already been written prior to that.

daqq
June 3rd, 2015, 05:45 AM
Originally Posted by chrysostom http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/images/bluesaint/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4121716#post4121716)
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)


Lukas 7:19-24 ~ Yochanan Eliyahu having been praying and writing in the Machaerus Patmos-Prison of Herod during the Day Kuriake, (which Day commences in Lukas 4:17-21) calls unto him a certain duo of his talmidim and sends them unto the Master Yeshua, saying, Art thou the one coming or for another should we watch? And the andres-men having approached Yeshua say unto him: Yochanan the Immerser hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou the one coming or for another should we watch? And in that hour many were cured of diseases, and plagues, and evil spirits; and on many that were blind, sight was bestowed. And Yeshua responding commands them: Go forth and announce to Yochanan what things you have seen and heard:

1) The blind see:
2) The lame walk:
3) The lepers are cleansed:
4) The deaf hear:
5) The dead are awakened:
6) To the poor the good news is proclaimed:
7) And blessed is he whosoever is not offended in me!

So the angelon of Yochanan depart and announce to him all these things . . .
And Seven Thunders uttered their voices . . . :scripto: :)

chrysostom
June 4th, 2015, 12:52 PM
All prophecy was fulfilled at 70 AD.

so can you identify

the four horsemen
the two beasts
babylon the great
the seven heads
the ten horns

this would be interesting

Anto9us
June 4th, 2015, 01:12 PM
"All prophecy was fulfilled at 70 AD. The bible is made up of the books, letters, that had already been written prior to that."

I think this is true, iam

chrysostom
June 4th, 2015, 01:13 PM
"All prophecy was fulfilled at 70 AD. The bible is made up of the books, letters, that had already been written prior to that."

I think this is true, iam

so can you identify

the four horsemen
the two beasts
babylon the great
the seven heads
the ten horns

this would be interesting

chrysostom
June 20th, 2015, 04:45 AM
the time is near
this makes sense
if
it is john the baptist saying it

chrysostom
October 9th, 2015, 04:51 AM
has anyone else done a timeline on the apocalypse?

not to my knowledge

is it the only way to show the pieces fit?

it may be the best way

cool

jamie
October 9th, 2015, 08:01 AM
Because they that were judged were judged according to their works.


Someone said we are saved by grace not our works. Why do you disagree and promote salvation by works?

OCTOBER23
October 11th, 2015, 09:50 AM
OCT 25, METEORS FALLING TO THE EARTH / OCEAN

Interplanner
October 11th, 2015, 12:46 PM
has anyone else done a timeline on the apocalypse?

not to my knowledge

is it the only way to show the pieces fit?

it may be the best way

cool



It is very simple. There is a short period of rebellion in which the church all around the world is harrassed by Satan and co., but it ends with the day of judgement of God. There are no geo-political events in Israel. None that show in the key ordinary chapters on the 2nd coming in the NT: Rom 2, 8, I Cor 15, Heb 9, 2 Pet 3, 2 Tim 4. The 'little rebellion' against the kingdom of God is found in Rev 20; watch out for symbology.

NT eschatology does not mix 1st century Judean events (Mt 24A) with the worldwide judgement of God. It is utter confusion to do so.

Interplanner
October 11th, 2015, 12:47 PM
OCT 25, METEORS FALLING TO THE EARTH / OCEAN



Oct23:
source? Do you mean the peak of Orionids?

http://www.amsmeteors.org/meteor-showers/meteor-shower-calendar/

patrick jane
October 11th, 2015, 12:48 PM
OCT 25, METEORS FALLING TO THE EARTH / OCEAN

that happens daily, look it up

OCTOBER23
October 12th, 2015, 10:00 PM
NO GUYS , ITS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2024 WHEN NIBIRU CAUSES A POLE SHIFT.

You have 9 years to wait...........see you then.

Grosnick Marowbe
October 12th, 2015, 10:14 PM
OCT 25, METEORS FALLING TO THE EARTH / OCEAN

Nope. However, they may land on the top of your head? Not sure though? It's just a guess/hunch.

Grosnick Marowbe
October 12th, 2015, 10:15 PM
The Martians will land on the White House lawn the day before yesterday.

chrysostom
November 3rd, 2015, 04:21 PM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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the pieces do fit

fzappa13
November 3rd, 2015, 04:33 PM
don't know
but
I really doubt it

I just look at history
and
not the future

that is what you should do

Keep looking over your shoulder and you will trip on what is in front of you.

chrysostom
November 3rd, 2015, 04:54 PM
Keep looking over your shoulder and you will trip on what is in front of you.

that is really a stupid thing to say regarding history

dialm
November 3rd, 2015, 05:34 PM
that is really a stupid thing to say regarding history

Will you say when it was that Satan was booted out of Heaven?

chrysostom
November 3rd, 2015, 05:36 PM
Will you say when it was that Satan was booted out of Heaven?

it had to be before adam

dialm
November 3rd, 2015, 05:42 PM
it had to be before adam

That is at a high probability. But what about the book of Job. It seems that the demonic had access at that time.

chrysostom
November 3rd, 2015, 05:47 PM
That is at a high probability. But what about the book of Job. It seems that the demonic had access at that time.

adam is before the book of job

dialm
November 3rd, 2015, 10:08 PM
adam is before the book of job

Right. Adam is before Job. Satan has access to Heaven in the book of Job. So Satan was not booted out of Heaven before Adam.

Why should we pay any attention to you timeline when you come up with Satan is knocked out of Heaven prior to Adam?

You are just using the timeline to make fun of futurist type people. That is very disrespectful. Plus you know that most here are not Catholic yet you constantly try to force feed. Then you whine because I protest your actions.

Why don't you man up. Bring something to the theological table. I'd like something to chew.

patrick jane
November 3rd, 2015, 10:13 PM
adam is before the book of job

that is true. but Job was written before Genesis they say.

chrysostom
November 13th, 2015, 08:56 AM
the first of its kind

chrysostom
December 1st, 2015, 08:29 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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please don't delete this

patrick jane
December 1st, 2015, 08:34 AM
please don't delete this

Do you make this stuff up or get it from somewhere else ? I think the latter, which means you follow a cult.

False Prophet
December 1st, 2015, 09:11 AM
12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates so that the water in the river was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the east to come. Rev 16
Some think that this was Ganges Khan and his Mongol hordes.

chrysostom
December 22nd, 2015, 04:28 AM
you need all the pieces

chrysostom
January 14th, 2016, 07:30 AM
I hope they don't delete this

it was a lot of work

chrysostom
February 4th, 2016, 04:31 AM
the time is near

chrysostom
February 27th, 2016, 02:31 AM
the time is near

-really it is
-but
-when john the baptist first wrote this
-he was talking about the first coming

chrysostom
March 26th, 2016, 04:09 AM
history is the key to unlock the door to understanding
-we have history
-why ignore it?

chrysostom
April 6th, 2016, 03:28 AM
please don't delete
-thank you, thank you very much

SaulToPaul
April 7th, 2016, 06:17 AM
-really it is
-but
-when john the baptist first wrote this
-he was talking about the first coming

:chuckle:

chrysostom
April 29th, 2016, 04:44 AM
so where is your timeline?

SaulToPaul
April 29th, 2016, 05:56 AM
so where is your timeline?

Don't need one.
It's the revelation of Jesus Christ, beginning with the Day of the Lord and beyond.
All future.
It will not fit in the past.

steko
April 29th, 2016, 06:34 AM
-really it is
-but
-when john the baptist first wrote this
-he was talking about the first coming

We have no evidence that John the baptist wrote anything.

SaulToPaul
April 29th, 2016, 06:37 AM
We have no evidence that John the baptist wrote anything.

Yes, it is a typical chrys harebrained scheme.

chrysostom
April 29th, 2016, 08:55 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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have you seen anything like this?

SaulToPaul
April 29th, 2016, 08:57 AM
have you seen anything like this?

A lot of misguided work...for nothing.

Epoisses
April 29th, 2016, 10:20 AM
My chart is better.
http://s6.postimg.org/et2xde7w1/Endtime_chart.png (http://postimage.org/)
screen capture freeware (http://postimage.org/app.php)

KingdomRose
April 29th, 2016, 07:40 PM
Will there be a planet-shattering asteroid impact in this apocalypse?

No, of course not. What bunk most people have accepted, thanks to their religious leaders who don't know what the heck they're talking about.

The Apocalypse is not an end to everything; it is the beginning of a new world---a refreshed planet--- and a new start for citizens of God's Kingdom that will enjoy life on a paradise Earth forever. There is an ominous outcome only for evil people, people who simply will not be good.

To understand what Armageddon is all about, this website will facilitate that knowledge: www.jw.org


Sadly, the above description of the Apocalypse's timeline (post #62) is way off. WAY off.:D

KingdomRose
April 29th, 2016, 07:43 PM
i think there may be a pole shift in there :)

the day and night will loose a third of its time, the only way I can figure that is a pole shift.

You're trying to look at a lot of SYMBOLISM as being literal. The best explanation of Revelation I have ever seen can be found on www.jw.org .

Epoisses
April 29th, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jehovah's Witnesses are idiots who knock on my door and I refuse to answer until they go away.

chrysostom
June 2nd, 2016, 04:04 AM
the time is near

patrick jane
June 2nd, 2016, 04:12 AM
the time is near
if you mean thousands of years from now then yes

chrysostom
June 23rd, 2016, 03:17 AM
the timeline shows how the pieces fit

SaulToPaul
June 23rd, 2016, 05:54 AM
the timeline shows how the pieces fit

:chuckle:

SonOfCaleb
June 23rd, 2016, 06:41 AM
Jehovah's Witnesses are idiots who knock on my door and I refuse to answer until they go away.

When they knock next time ask them to place you on the list of goats called "Do not call". Clearly there's no point in casting pearls before swine or them or you wasting your time.

SonOfCaleb
June 23rd, 2016, 06:49 AM
No, of course not. What bunk most people have accepted, thanks to their religious leaders who don't know what the heck they're talking about.

The Apocalypse is not an end to everything; it is the beginning of a new world---a refreshed planet--- and a new start for citizens of God's Kingdom that will enjoy life on a paradise Earth forever. There is an ominous outcome only for evil people, people who simply will not be good.

To understand what Armageddon is all about, this website will facilitate that knowledge: www.jw.org


Sadly, the above description of the Apocalypse's timeline (post #62) is way off. WAY off.:D

The tragic irony is Apocalypse in Greek actually means to reveal or to uncover. The current understanding of 'Revelation' or the so called Apocalypse has absolutely nothing to do with the now conventional understanding of the word which generally invokes feelings of mass global devastation.
What they're vainly trying to put together are the events from the Great Tribulation up until Armaggedon and on into judgement day or 'the Last Day'. That infographic is just a heap of utter confusion.

chrysostom
August 14th, 2016, 12:10 PM
only the futurists have put together a better timeline -
just like the jews -
nothing has happened yet

Ben Masada
August 14th, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jehovah's Witnesses are idiots who knock on my door and I refuse to answer until they go away.

I acted differently. A couple of them, husband and wife, knocked at my door, I invited them in and the next dialogue happened:

"J'W" - Do you know that the Jewish Divine election has been replaced by the "Jehovah's Witnesses?"

Ben - I don't think so but, where is it written?

"J'W" - Isaiah 43:10.

Ben - Take the zero off and read Isaiah 43:1 and see who are the real Jehovah's Witnesses. The whole chapter is about Israel.

"J'W" - Better yet hear what John 3:16 says about Jesus: "Jehovah so loved the world as to give His only begotten son that whoever believes in him is saved." Notice that he said, "Only begotten son" which means that there is no other.

Ben - How about Exodus 4:23? Jehovah Himself said that, "Israel is My son; let My son go that he may serve Me."

"J'W" - Alas, that's Israel the people who has been replaced by us. But listen, although we have replaced you, Jews are very important to us. Here is our address; would you come to visit us at 1 pm today and gave me their address.

Ben - Sorry but we are not supposed to be found within a non-Jewish house of worship.

"J'W" - What's the matter, are you afraid of something?

Ben - No it is not fear but a matter of Jewish culture.

"J'W" - Where is it written that you are not supposed to enter a non-Jewish house of worship ?

Ben - Naaman was the commander of the king of Aram and he was a leper. He had a Jewess servant who suggested to him to seek cure from Elisha in Israel. He came to Elisha and was told to immerse 7 times in the Jordan River, he did as he was bid and got cured. He converted to Judaism and asked Elisha to plead God to forgive him every time he had to help his master the king to enter the temple of Rimmon to worship. It is from this event that Jews acquired the custom not to enter a non-Jewish house of worship. That's in II Kings 5:1-18.

Conclusion - That was the end of the dialogue as they would neither speak nor remove their eyes from me. They had to say good bye and leave.

chrysostom
September 23rd, 2016, 04:49 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

now under construction

back to

the apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102616)

just to show that the pieces fit

chrysostom
October 3rd, 2016, 04:46 AM
our job is to watch to see
-if-
the pieces fit

chrysostom
October 14th, 2016, 09:54 AM
-if-
you have a view of the apocalypse
-and-
it is not in the future
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you should be able to show how it fits

SaulToPaul
October 14th, 2016, 10:03 AM
-if-
you have a view of the apocalypse
-and-
it is not in the future
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you should be able to show how it fits

Without leaving out ANY prophetic details , to make it fit.

False Prophet
October 15th, 2016, 08:01 PM
Have you read Sir Isaac Newton's theory on the Apocalypse?

Rondonmonson
October 16th, 2016, 08:54 AM
Revelation 1 2 and 3 are about the Churches of Asia Minor.

The Rapture is the beginning of Daniels 70th Week. That starts in Revelation chapter 4. COME UP HERE.....

Rev. 4 and 5 Describe the Fathers Glory and Jesus as the Worthy Lamb, the Church is in Heaven Marrying the Lamb at this point and the First part of Rev. 19 would be going on at this exact same time.

Rev. 6 is the Mid-way point of the Daniels 70th Week or of Jacobs trouble. The Anti-Christ starts turning on Israel and starts conquering foes. Rev. 17 is happening at this point because Islam and all Religions (The Harlot) are being destroyed at this point. Rev. 18 starts as soon as the Last Seal is opened so it is not happening quite yet. Rev. 11 is happening at this point also, the Two-Witnesses are prophesying and bringing forth plagues or about to bring forth plagues, they have already turned Israel back to God and the Messiah Jesus. Israel has already fled unto the wilderness by this point in time also so parts of Rev. 12 are happening here also. Rev. 13 is happening by now also, the Beast has risen out of the Sea.

Rev. 7 is the Anointing of the 144,000 and after that John in Heaven watching the Marriage of the Lamb and the Church which is happening at this point in Heaven, Rev. 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; Then an elder tells John these are they which came out of the Great Tribulation. The great tribulation is the troubles of the world, the trials all of man-kind go through in their lives, we all face this challenge in life, we are tested just like Jesus was tempted. We have made it to Heaven. But we are not in Jacobs Trouble, because that was designed to get Israel to Repent, not the Church who is at this point in Heaven, Marrying the Lamb. Those under the Alter in Seal #6 were told to wait until their fellow servants were killed also, so they are not in Heaven yet, they yet sleep.

Rev. 8, the Seventh Seal Sounds, the plagues of God are brought forth via the Seven Trumps, the Two-Witnesses in Rev. 11 are praying them down upon a wicked earth (Babylon) and the Prayers of the Saints are cast down on earth, mingled with fire. Rev. 18 starts happening at this exact point, Babylon is Fallen is fallen. Babylon is hit by the plagues of God and her commerce is destroyed, her grasses and trees are burned up, many peoples die, an asteroid hits, the waters turn to blood, sea creatures die, many ships are destroyed, the waters are poisoned, the sun, moon and stars are darkened, no doubt because of the smoke, and Angel announces there are Three Woes left !!!

Rev. 9 ushers in two of the final three Woes. Rev. 18 is still happening at this very time. Woe #1 is Apollyon being released from the bottomless pit along with a horde of Demons that torture men, Rev. 18 says the Earth has become a habitation of Devils !! Now comes Woe #2, four Angels are released, they have an Army of 200 Million Horsemen, they have the same Breastplates as the High Priests of Israel, they kill men on earth who it says STILL WILL NOT REPENT !! That tells us what ? This is a Plague of God, this is not an Human Army of 200 Million Horsemen. The Euphrates River is dried up in Rev. 16, during the Sixth Vial, not here at the Sixth Trumpet in Rev. 9 !! The Kings of the East have nothing to do with THIS ARMY of Horsemen. Rev. 14 is happening at this exact time, the 144,000 are preaching repent, repent and another angel is saying Babylon has fallen, fallen. Another Angel says if any man worships the Beast or his Image, or takes the Mark of the Beast will receive the WRATH OF GOD !! Revelation chapter 18 is the Judgment of Babylon ( the Last Beast System or conglomerate Government that comes against Israel, to subdue and Destroy her ). It is still going on as Rev. 9 is going on.

Rev. 10 is John eating a book because God doesn't want him to Reveal everything he heard about this event, this seems to be a one event vision, however, it seems the Angel swore that when the Seventh Angel sounded, time should be no more (as we know it).

Rev. 11, as I stated, much of that is happening as Rev. 6 is happening, but also as Rev. 8 and Rev. 9 are happening also. The Two Woes are Past, now comes the Third Woe just after the Two-Witnesses are killed, come back to life and have ascended unto Heaven. And the 3rd Woe sounded, and this ushers in the Seven Vials of Gods wrath. The Kingdoms of this Earth have become the Kingdoms of the Lord and the Nations (Babylon) were angry because His Wrath (Gods Wrath) had come. Rev. 15 and Rev. 16 are the results of the Seven Vials of Gods Wrath to come.

Rev. 12 is the Story of Israel (Women) Baby Jesus, The Dragon etc. etc. It shows who birthed Jesus, how Satan tried to kill him, how he ascended to Heaven and sat at the Right Hand of God. Then Israel fled into the Wilderness for 1260 Days, to be protected by God so this part happens as Rev. 6 is happening no doubt. Then Satan comes after the Christians this is no doubt the Martyrs under the Alter in the 5th Seal who were Beheaded for Jesus' name.

Rev. 13 is the story of the rise of the Anti-Christ and his False Prophet, this happens at the very beginning of Daniels 70th Week no doubt. He turns on Israel and all False and True Religions at the Mid-way point, he will then kill all who refuse to worship him as GOD both rich and poor, great and small. His number is 666.

Rev. 14 Jesus then [anoints/Seals them on their foreheads] the 144,000 personally, on Mount Zion. He then sends them forth to preach the Gospel unto all mankind. They go forth and preach the Gospel to men as Babylon is Falling, yet they seem to repent not most of the times, but yet, no one can say they have not heard the Gospel, this will be the Judgment against them, they heard but rejected the good news of Jesus Christs Salvation via the Blood !! They wanted no part. Rev. 9 is happening at the same time...

Rev. 15. is about the Seven Last Plagues that the final Seven Vials are going to bring forth.

Rev. 16 is the Seven Vials of Gods Wrath being poured out upon Babylon the Great !! This is what Rev. 18 is all about, Rev. 18 is just a more detailed version of Babylon Falling while Rev. 16 is describing the Plagues which are the Third and final Woe !! In the very first Vial grievous sores fall upon men with the Mark of the Beast upon them, then in the 2nd Vial, the Seas became as dead men's blood and all the sea creatures died. In the 3rd Vial all the drinking waters turn to blood. The 4th Vial is poured out and the sun scorches men and they blasphemed God, yet repented not !! In the 5th Vial, we see that the Seat of the Beast (Babylon) became as Dark, and men gnawed at their tongues for pain but yet Repented not. The 6th Vial is now poured out, and the Euphrates River is dried up preparing the way for the Kings of the East ( NOT !!! Preparing the way for a 200 million Horsemen Army ) to do battle in Armageddon no doubt, because there are Three Evil Spirits sent out from the Anti-Christ, Dragon and the False Prophet to entice the Kings unto battle, they no doubt want to destroy Israel/Jerusalem once and for all. Then the Seventh and Final Vial is pored out and there is a voice from Heaven saying It is done.... then there is a Great Earthquake such as has never been seen before, and Jerusalem is divided into Three Parts as Jesus sets foot upon Mount Zion. Then of course the CITIES of the NATIONS (Babylon) fell: and Great Babylon came into REMEMBRANCE UNTO GOD !! To give unto her the cup of the wine of His fierce Wrath !! Of Course this is what is Happening to Babylon in Rev. chapter 18. IT IS DONE, there is no more Kingdoms of men, Jesus Christ has taken over, as soon as he defeats the Anti-Christ and his Kings/Satan in Rev. 19. There is in essence no Rev. 17 or Rev. chapter 18, they are just an enhanced telling of the Fall of Babylons Two Sides, the Religious Harlot and the Governmental Beast System. Rev. 17:16 The Kings HATE the Harlot and burn her and destroy her (False Religion Judged) Rev. 18:2 Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen, she has become the habitation of devils !! (False Government Side Judged). Commerce destroyed, plagues brought forth etc. etc.

Rev. Chapter 19, this chapter starts in Rev. 4 and is ongoing in Rev, 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16. Then our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ comes back with us Saints, the Church, who he has Married in Rev. 19, and He defeats Satan (bound in the pit for 1000 years) the Anti-Christ and False Prophet whom he judges and throws into Hell (Rev. 20:10) and all the Kings and Armies of Satan and the Anti-Christ with the Sword of his Mouth (Holy Spirit) and Without Hands (Holy Spirit). Amen, Glory to God.

musterion
October 16th, 2016, 09:02 AM
Revelation 1 2 and 3 are about the Churches of Asia Minor.

The Rapture is the beginning of Daniels 70th Week. That starts in Revelation chapter 4. COME UP HERE.....

Rev. 4 and 5 Describe the Fathers Glory and Jesus as the Worthy Lamb, the Church is in Heaven Marrying the Lamb at this point and the First part of Rev. 19 would be going on at this exact same time.

Rev. 6 is the Mid-way point of the Daniels 70th Week or of Jacobs trouble. The Anti-Christ starts turning on Israel and starts conquering foes. Rev. 17 is happening at this point because Islam and all Religions (The Harlot) are being destroyed at this point. Rev. 18 starts as soon as the Last Seal is opened so it is not happening quite yet. Rev. 11 is happening at this point also, the Two-Witnesses are prophesying and bringing forth plagues or about to bring forth plagues, they have already turned Israel back to God and the Messiah Jesus. Israel has already fled unto the wilderness by this point in time also so parts of Rev. 12 are happening here also. Rev. 13 is happening by now also, the Beast has risen out of the Sea.

Rev. 7 is the Anointing of the 144,000 and after that John in Heaven watching the Marriage of the Lamb and the Church which is happening at this point in Heaven, Rev. 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; Then an elder tells John these are they which came out of the Great Tribulation. The great tribulation is the troubles of the world, the trials all of man-kind go through in their lives, we all face this challenge in life, we are tested just like Jesus was tempted. We have made it to Heaven. But we are not in Jacobs Trouble, because that was designed to get Israel to Repent, not the Church who is at this point in Heaven, Marrying the Lamb. Those under the Alter in Seal #6 were told to wait until their fellow servants were killed also, so they are not in Heaven yet, they yet sleep.

Rev. 8, the Seventh Seal Sounds, the plagues of God are brought forth via the Seven Trumps, the Two-Witnesses in Rev. 11 are praying them down upon a wicked earth (Babylon) and the Prayers of the Saints are cast down on earth, mingled with fire. Rev. 18 starts happening at this exact point, Babylon is Fallen is fallen. Babylon is hit by he plagues of God and her commerce is destroyed, her grasses and trees are burned up, many peoples die, an asteroid hits, the waters turn to blood, sea creatures die, many shops are destroyed, the waters are poisoned, the sun, moon and stars are darkened, no doubt because of the smoke, and Angel announces there are Three Woes left !!!

Rev. 9 ushers in two of the final three Woes. Rev. 18 is still happening at this very time. Woe #1 is Apollyon being released from the bottomless pit along with a horde of Demons that torture men, Rev. 18 says the Earth has become a habitation of Devils !! Now comes Woe #2, four Angels are released, they have an Army of 200 Million Horsemen, they have the same Breastplates as the High Priests of Israel, they kill men on earth who it says STILL WILL NOT REPENT !! That tells us what ? This is a Plague of God, this is not an Human Army of 200 Million Horsemen. The Euphrates River is dried up in Rev. 16, during the Sixth Vial, not here at the Sixth Trumpet in Rev. 9 !! The Kings of the East have nothing to do with THIS ARMY of Horsemen. Rev. 14 is happening at this exact time, the 144,000 are preaching repent, repent and another angel is saying Babylon has fallen, fallen. Another Angel says if any man worships the Beast or his Image, or takes the Mark of the Beast will receive the WRATH OF GOD !! Revelation chapter 18 is the Judgment of Babylon ( the Last Beast System or conglomerate Government that comes against Israel, to subdue and Destroy her ). It is still going on as Rev. 9 is going on.

Rev. 10 is John eating a book because God doesn't want him to Reveal everything he heard about this event, this seems to be a one event vision, however, it seems the Angel swore that when the Seventh Angel sounded, time should be no more (as we know it).

Rev. 11, as I stated, much of that is happening as Rev. 6 is happening, but also as Rev. 8 and Rev. 9 are happening also. The Two Woes are Past, now comes the Third Woe just after the Two-Witnesses are killed, come back to life and have ascended unto Heaven. And the 3rd Woe sounded, and this ushers in the Seven Vials of Gods wrath. The Kingdoms of this Earth have become the Kingdoms of the Lord and the Nations (Babylon) were angry because His Wrath (Gods Wrath) had come. Rev. 15 and Rev. 16 are the results of the Seven Vials of Gods Wrath to come.

Rev. 12 is the Story of Israel (Women) Baby Jesus, The Dragon etc. etc. It shows who birthed Jesus, how Satan tied to kill him, how he ascended to Heaven and sat at the Right Hand of God. Then Israel fled into the Wilderness for 1260 Days, to be protected by God so this part happens as Rev. 6 is happening no doubt. Then Satan comes after the Christians this is no doubt the Martyrs under the Alter in the 5th Seal who were Beheaded for Jesus' name.

Rev. 13 is the story of the rise of the Anti-Christ and his False Prophet, this happens at the very beginning of Daniels 70th Week no doubt. He turns on Israel and all False and True Religions at the Mid-way point, he will then kill all who refuse to worship him as GOD both rich and poor, great and small. His number is 666.

Rev. 14 Jesus then [anoints/Seals them on their foreheads] the 144,000 personally, on Mount Zion. He then sends them forth to preach the Gospel unto all mankind. They go forth and preach the Gospel to men as Babylon is Falling, yet they seem to repent not most of the times, but yet, no one can say they have not heard the Gospel, this will be the Judgment against them, they heard but rejected the good news of Jesus Christs Salvation via the Blood !! They wanted no part. Rev. 9 is happening at the same time...

Rev. 15. is about the Seven Last Plagues that the final Seven Vials are going to bring forth.

Rev. 16 is the Seven Vials of Gods Wrath being poured out upon Babylon the Great !! This is what Rev. 18 is all about, Rev. 18 is just a more detailed version of Babylon Falling while Rev. 16 is describing the Plagues which are the Third and final Woe !! In the very first Vial grievous sores fall upon men with the Mark of the Beast upon them, then in the 2nd Vial, the Seas became as dead men's blood and all the sea creatures died. In the 3rd Vial all the drinking waters turn to blood. The 4th Vial is poured out and the sun scorches men and they blasphemed God, yet repented not !! In the 5th Vial, we see that the Seat of the Beast (Babylon) became as Dark, and men gnawed at their tongues for pain but yet Repented not. The 6th Vial is now poured out, and the Euphrates River is dried up preparing the way for the Kings of the East ( NOT !!! Preparing the way for a 200 million Horsemen Army ) to do battle in Armageddon no doubt, because there are Three Evil Spirits sent out from the Anti-Christ, Dragon and the False Prophet to entice the Kings unto battle, they no doubt want to destroy Israel/Jerusalem once and for all. Then the Seventh and Final Vial is pored out and there is a voice from Heaven saying It is done.... then there is a Great Earthquake such as has never been seen before, and Jerusalem is divided into Three Parts as Jesus put foot upon Mount Zion. Then of course the CITIES of the NATIONS (Babylon) fell: and Great Babylon came into REMEMBRANCE UNTO GOD !! To give unto her the cup of the wine of His fierce Wrath !! Of Course this is what is Happening to Babylon in Rev. chapter 18. IT IS DONE, there is no more Kingdoms of men, Jesus Christ hast taken over, as soon as he defeats the Anti-Christ and his Kings/Satan in Rev. 19. There is in essence no Rev. 17 or Rev. chapter 18, they are just an enhanced telling of the Fall of Babylons Two Sides, the Religious Harlot and the Governmental Beast System. Rev. 17:16 The Kings HATE the Harlot and burn her and destroy her (False Religion Judged) Rev. 18:2 Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen, she has become the habitation of devils !! (False Government Side Judged). Commerce destroyed, plagues brought forth etc. etc.

Rev. Chapter 19, this chapter starts in Rev. 4 and is ongoing in Rev, 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16. Then our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ comes back with us Saints, the Church, who he has Married in Rev. 19, and He defeats Satan (bound in the pit for 1000 years) the Anti-Christ and False Prophet whom he judges and throws into Hell (Rev. 20:10) and all the Kings and Armies of Satan and the Anti-Christ with the Sword of his Mouth (Holy Spirit) and Without Hands (Holy Spirit). Amen, Glory to God.

No church at Smyrna is known to have existed.

False Prophet
October 16th, 2016, 02:32 PM
Yes there was a church at Smyrna, or it would never have been mentioned. By the end of the 1st century the city already hosted a small Christian community, while its first head was one named Aristion. Martyr and disciple, one of the original seventy-two sent out into the world. Aristion preached on Cyprus and is listed as a martyr in Salamis.

chrysostom
October 27th, 2016, 09:45 AM
Have you read Sir Isaac Newton's theory on the Apocalypse?

yes
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have you looked at the newton project (http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/prism.php?id=1)?

chrysostom
November 4th, 2016, 03:26 AM
still working on the newton project

chrysostom
November 18th, 2016, 06:28 AM
the newton project has started
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newton was an historicist

chrysostom
December 3rd, 2016, 03:56 AM
the timeline of the apocalypse (http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?105824-timeline-of-the-apocalypse&p=4121716#post4121716) shows how the pieces fit

chrysostom
December 12th, 2016, 06:13 AM
thanks for watching

chrysostom
December 21st, 2016, 06:19 AM
the pieces fit -
the future is now

SaulToPaul
December 21st, 2016, 07:15 AM
the pieces fit -
the future is now

:chuckle:

chrysostom
January 3rd, 2017, 05:18 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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the pieces fit

Rondonmonson
January 3rd, 2017, 03:07 PM
the pieces fit

I gave you the real timeline..............

chrysostom
January 18th, 2017, 05:52 AM
I gave you the real timeline..............


thank you

chrysostom
February 8th, 2017, 06:25 AM
any interpretation of the apocalypse should show how the pieces fit

SaulToPaul
February 8th, 2017, 12:26 PM
any interpretation of the apocalypse should show how the pieces fit

Yours doesn't fit...

ok doser
February 8th, 2017, 12:34 PM
http://www.efcaenglish.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Are-We-There-Yet.jpg

chrysostom
March 16th, 2017, 06:31 AM
Yours doesn't fit...

your interpretation

SaulToPaul
March 16th, 2017, 06:39 AM
your interpretation

Yours doesn't fit.

chrysostom
April 15th, 2017, 06:35 AM
I gave you the real timeline..............


really?

Interplanner
April 15th, 2017, 07:37 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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The Rev is about the trauma that happened to Israel in the 1st century. Christ reigns for a long time in spite of the destruction of the harlot. At the end of that, the NHNE are created.

chrysostom
April 15th, 2017, 02:57 PM
The Rev is about the trauma that happened to Israel in the 1st century.

based on what?

chrysostom
May 20th, 2017, 04:52 AM
the timeline may be the only way to show that the pieces fit
-
only history can confirm the fulfillment of prophecy
-but-
you interpretation must be literal
-
it is the only thing you can trust

Interplanner
May 20th, 2017, 06:52 AM
the timeline may be the only way to show that the pieces fit
-
only history can confirm the fulfillment of prophecy
-but-
you interpretation must be literal
-
it is the only thing you can trust





There is no timeline. There is 2 Peter 3.

The Rev was written to comfort those in 1st century Judea who had lost everything in the 'rebellion that desolates' of Dan 8, which took place in Judea at that time. The bride is now married in the reign of Christ, but the NHNE have not yet been made. There is a short rebellion that harasses believers at the end of this earth's time.

Mt 24A (up to v29) and its parallels is also about 1st century Judea, with all its direct, urgent, Judean warnings. After v29 the setting is worldwide, the judgement of the whole world, which was originally expected to be right after A but was delayed...as we know.

SaulToPaul
May 22nd, 2017, 01:00 PM
There is no timeline.

:chuckle:

chrysostom
June 14th, 2017, 02:47 AM
you might take a closer look at your interpretation
-if-
you are not finding any fulfillment of prophecy in history

SaulToPaul
June 15th, 2017, 08:17 AM
you might take a closer look at your interpretation
-if-
you are not finding any fulfillment of prophecy in history

:chuckle:

If your interpretation finds fulfillment in the past, you might want to take a closer look at the details of the prophecy, and take God's word more seriously...

chrysostom
July 26th, 2017, 04:20 AM
:chuckle:

If your interpretation finds fulfillment in the past, you might want to take a closer look at the details of the prophecy, and take God's word more seriously...

my interpretation is literal and all the pieces fit
there are many pieces
what more do you need?

oatmeal
July 26th, 2017, 04:35 AM
timeline of the apocalypse

30 john the baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist) writes the first apocalypse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3967530#post3967530)
67 new jerusalem (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3984999#post3984999), rev 21:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+21%3A2&version=KJV), linus replaces peter in rome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes)
68 first of seven heads (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77340), end of the first dynasty julio-claudian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_dynasty), rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
96 second of the seven heads, end of flavian dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavian_dynasty)

192 third of the seven heads, end of the adoptive and antonine emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva%E2%80%93Antonine_dynasty)
235 fourth of the seven heads, end of House of Severus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty)
312 rider of the white horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great), rev 6:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A2&version=KJV)
313 paganism the first beast mortally wounded, edict of milan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan), rev 13:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+13%3A3&version=KJV)
330 the thousand year reign begins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A2&version=KJV)
364 fifth of the seven heads tetrarchy and the House of Constantine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty)
400 five have fallen, one is, and one is yet to come, rev 17:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A10&version=KJV)
455 sixth of the seven heads House of Valentinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty)
476 seventh of the seven heads Family of Leo I the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leo)
622 rider of the red horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), mohammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
632 the first horn of ten (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102648), rev 17:12 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+17%3A12&version=KJV)
637 jerusalem falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29) to the first horn, Rashidun Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashidun_Caliphate)
661 the second horn, Umayyad Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate)
666 the first siege of constantinople, rev 15:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+15%3A2&version=KJV)
717 the second siege of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%28717%E2%80%9318%29)
750 the third horn, Abbasid Caliphate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate)
868 the fourth horn, Tulunid and Fatimid Dynasties in Egypt (http://islamicart.com/library/history/tulunids.html)
973 Ifriqiya and Sicily (http://islamicart.com/library/history/ifriqiya.html), end of horn number 5

1194 Seljuk Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_Empire) ends, horn number 6
1269 Almoravid and Almohad Dynasties in Maghreb (http://islamicart.com/library/history/maghreb.html) ends, horn number 7
1299 ottoman dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty) starts
1390 first siege of constantinople by ottoman dynasty
1411 second siege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281411%29)
1422 third (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_%281422%29)
1453 fourth and constantinople is fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople), rev 18:2 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A2&version=KJV)
1453 end of the thousand years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire), rev 20:7 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+20%3A7&version=KJV)
1736 Safavid dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynasty) ends, horn number 8
1848 rider of the black horse (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962734#post3962734), marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx), father of communism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communism), rev 6:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+6%3A4&version=KJV)
1857 Mughal Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire) ends, horn number 9
1922 Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) ends, horn number 10
1930 and shall be found no more at all, rev 18:21 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+18%3A21&version=KJV), the end of constantinople (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople), babylon the great (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3962960#post3962960)

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What is your evidence that your time line is correct?

After all, there is no scriptural evidence that Simon Peter, ie, Cephas, was in Rome ever.

chrysostom
July 26th, 2017, 05:31 AM
What is your evidence that your time line is correct?


what historians have written -
they all have peter in rome -
at least the respectable ones do

SaulToPaul
July 26th, 2017, 06:23 AM
my interpretation is literal and all the pieces fit
there are many pieces
what more do you need?

:chuckle:

They do not fit, unless you ignore 90% of the details.

chrysostom
August 22nd, 2017, 03:26 AM
:chuckle:

They do not fit, unless you ignore 90% of the details.

the details that I present have been recorded by historians -
whether or not they fit the prophesy depends completely on your interpretation of it -
what happens in the future will always fit yours

Truster
August 22nd, 2017, 04:10 AM
what historians have written -
they all have peter in rome -
at least the respectable ones do

The scriptures (respectable ones) have Paul in Rome, but not Peter.

Yes, I know tradition says he was put to death in Rome, but tradition is not reliable evidence. If Peter was intended to form a line of succession I'm certain that the Holy Spirit would have given us just a glimmer of this.

Yes, we have the prophecy of the keys and this was fulfilled at Pentecost and at the home of Cornelius. Peter used the keys (evangelism) to open the door for the Jews first and then the Gentiles.

Amen.

Truster
August 22nd, 2017, 04:12 AM
PS

Once the way was opened the keys were no longer needed and so successive door opening is a fallacy.

chrysostom
August 22nd, 2017, 04:46 AM
The scriptures (respectable ones) have Paul in Rome, but not Peter.


do you think peter went to babylon?

Truster
August 22nd, 2017, 04:51 AM
do you think peter went to babylon?

I have never given it my valuable consideration or contemplation. If that's what you mean by "think".

Truster
August 22nd, 2017, 04:52 AM
do you think peter went to babylon?

I have never given it my valuable consideration or contemplation. If that's what you mean by "think".

There seems to be a problem when pressing enter and it has, on this occasion, led to a reposting. My apologies.

SaulToPaul
August 22nd, 2017, 06:06 AM
the details that I present have been recorded by historians -
whether or not they fit the prophesy depends completely on your interpretation of it -
what happens in the future will always fit yours

:chuckle:

You leave out 90% of the details of the prophecy, in order to promote your harebrained scheme.
Why?

chrysostom
August 22nd, 2017, 06:13 AM
:chuckle:

You leave out 90% of the details of the prophecy, in order to promote your harebrained scheme.
Why?

give me a significant detail that is not in the old testament